Thread 102343793 - /vt/ [Archived: 296 hours ago]

Anonymous
7/17/2025, 11:09:17 AM No.102343793
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You holofags better watch out. Niji's about to mog you in the TCG department too.
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Anonymous
7/17/2025, 11:10:27 AM No.102343809
Where's the Phase Connect bakugans
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 11:50:17 AM No.102344184
>>102343793 (OP)
>lower the prices
That means your livers are so low-demanding that they are cheaping out your shit, retarded sister
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 11:51:29 AM No.102344192
>>102343793 (OP)
is duelmasters
not nijisanji TCG
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 12:02:28 PM No.102344298
>>102343793 (OP)
Oh this is bad ! Just checked their hwitter account . Apparently this is the second price reduction
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 12:06:54 PM No.102344343
>>102343793 (OP)
> mog you in the TCG department too.
> too

implying there is even one category
lol
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 12:07:21 PM No.102344347
>>102343793 (OP)
Surely Duellogs will not sit still for this.
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Anonymous
7/17/2025, 12:42:15 PM No.102344730
>>102343793 (OP)
Only Nijisanji could reduce the value of a product by slapping their IP on it.
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Anonymous
7/17/2025, 1:10:29 PM No.102345091
>>102344730
The poor Duel Masters staff members that approved this collab are gonna get fired.
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Anonymous
7/17/2025, 1:13:54 PM No.102345134
this calls for another buyback
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Anonymous
7/17/2025, 1:19:40 PM No.102345207
>>102345134
>another buyback
Funny thing is that they can't commit buyback right now without actually sacrificing big portion of their profit because their stock price is so high. They can only do so when their stocks was dirt cheap in the 2000s range for now
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Anonymous
7/17/2025, 1:23:22 PM No.102345261
>>102345207
eh I'm not getting excited, they'll worm their way out of this one like they usually do
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 1:35:57 PM No.102345449
>>102343793 (OP)
>Lower the price
>Added stock
It means that demand is too low they are making discounts to make it work.
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Anonymous
7/17/2025, 1:38:22 PM No.102345477
>>102345091
I thought Duel Masters died 20 years ago?
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Anonymous
7/17/2025, 2:00:33 PM No.102345728
>>102345477
Not in Japan at least. Its a kusoge though.
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 2:11:13 PM No.102345877
doesn't holotcg demand still exceed supply, how is that possible
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 2:15:55 PM No.102345956
>>102343793 (OP)
>lowered the price
Kek nobody is buying this shit
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 2:32:41 PM No.102346202
>>102343793 (OP)
what the fuck is duel masters? are they bootleg yugioh cards?
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Anonymous
7/17/2025, 2:35:27 PM No.102346234
>>102346202
You have to be 18 to post here
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 3:20:39 PM No.102346884
DONT CARE ABOUT YOUR NIJISHIT, THIS GAMES STILL EXISTS?!?
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 4:43:16 PM No.102347874
>>102345091
They're not going to get fired, they're going to be sent to the banishment room.
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 4:51:06 PM No.102347965
>>102345477
Duel Masters is still going very strong as a TCG in Japan. It's consistently #3 or #4 in the monthly charts battling with One Piece.
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Anonymous
7/17/2025, 4:53:06 PM No.102347991
>>102347965
is that why nijifags on twitter were boasting about beating holotcg on sales? kek
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 4:54:35 PM No.102348017
>>102343793 (OP)
>please buy it they're basically free!
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 5:18:04 PM No.102348335
>>102345449
Yes. As a retailer (not a tcg retailer mind you), what happened was probably that the wholesaler approached them with a volume deal that was too good to pass up. In my line of work you can get 90% off of wholesale on slow moving product if you wait for the wholesaler to get desperate enough that they need to move stock. Wholesalers are constrained by physical space. Regardless of demand, space is finite and if they don't move old stock out they cannot get new stock in.
So wholesaler comes to the end retailer and basically presents them with this
>buy high volume of slow moving crap at a crazy discount
>retailer's costs are now spread across more product allowing them to discount the price
>if lowering price spikes demand they have a lot of product to sell and less that needs to be sold in order to hit break-even
>retailer feels like they got a good deal, wholesaler moves product
Retailers are ultimately consumers as well and it's easy to fall into this kind of trap and forget that some things are just going to be unpopular at any price. It's why you can walk into Ollie's and find pallets of boxes of Star Wars figurines from 2018 that they literally cannot discount enough to actually sell because ultimately people simply do not want it at any price.
Obviously it's not that extreme in this case, but full shelves and lowered prices are not indicative of a product that is in high demand.
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Anonymous
7/17/2025, 5:23:19 PM No.102348405
>>102348335
You're retarded. Adding more to a stock then discounting the price is just a basic strategy to bring more people into the store to buy something regardless if it's in high demand or not. If it wasn't in high demand, the store just wouldn't have bought more. Have you never went to a supermarket before?
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Anonymous
7/17/2025, 5:25:13 PM No.102348426
>>102343793 (OP)
How come the EN version of holo tcg released and i saw zero threads about it. Anyway where can i but it, becuase its not for sale on the official and i really dont wanna go to my local tcg shop, too nerdy for me
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 5:48:15 PM No.102348793
>>102343793 (OP)
>DM
>Dead game outside of Japan
>Second price reduction, indicating that company has warehouses full of this shit and nobody is interested in purchasing it.

>>102348405
You're either a seething Nijisister or a retard... It's literally not how it works.
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Anonymous
7/17/2025, 5:52:27 PM No.102348873
>>102348793
>Putting more of an item in stock means no one wants to buy. Discounting something means no one wants to buy
So you're financially illiterate and don't know anything about business?
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 5:58:38 PM No.102348982
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>>102346202
>>102345477
Wizards of the Coast (WotC), makers of Magic the Gathering (the first TCG) wanted to expand more into Japan, but MtG wasn't selling well enough there. They made a MtG manga called Duel Masters, which they later retooled and used to spawn an entirely unique TCG just for the Japanese market: Duel Masters TCG. It got HUGE in Japan, even momentary beating out Yu-Gi-Oh, Pokemon, and every other card game there. It's receded back a few ranks since then, but it's still very much a popular and successful TCG in Japan. MtG itself has also been gaining more traction in Japan nowadays thanks to aggressive promotional marketing, so WotC currently has TWO card games in the upper chart rankings for Japan.

Since it was doing so well in Japan, WotC tried to make an english version of the game for North American markets. It quickly failed, ironically partially because people saw it as a knock off of Yu-Gi-Oh: some Japanese card game with an anime attached to it. Yu-Gi-Oh's "Duel Monsters" game started in its manga as a parody of MtG.

1993 - MtG releases
1997 - Yu-Gi-Oh manga begins. It initially isn't about a TCG at all, just various games and challenges. It soon starts to focus on "Magic & Wizards", later changed to "Duel Monsters", an in-universe card game loosely based on MtG.
1999 - Yu-Gi-Oh's TCG releases in Japan.
1999 - The Duel Masters manga begins
2002 - The Duel Masters TCG releases in Japan.
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Anonymous
7/17/2025, 6:04:31 PM No.102349083
>>102344347
he's probably waiting for rosemi's graduation
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 6:04:41 PM No.102349084
>>102348982
whoops, slight correction: change 1997 to 1996
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 6:05:46 PM No.102349106
>>102343793 (OP)
Wait this is not ygo what the fuck is duel masters
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Anonymous
7/17/2025, 6:06:14 PM No.102349115
>>102348982
>Wizards of the Coast
YUCK!
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 6:07:25 PM No.102349135
>>102343793 (OP)
This promo is honestly dumb because Niji didn't even bother to push the collab further with DuelMaster. They could announce shit like Niji livers canon in DuelMaster universe and make an anime episode out of it or something. But nah, let's just paste Niji art on the DuelMaster card templates and call it a day

This results in only Niji sisters buying the Niji cards and DuelMaster fans buying the DuelMaster cards. These two fanbases had no correlation and so there is no reason for one to buy the other
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Anonymous
7/17/2025, 6:11:41 PM No.102349199
>>102349106
bruh, read >>102348982
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 6:31:20 PM No.102349570
>>102348405
>If it wasn't in high demand, the store just wouldn't have bought more
Or, imagine this scenario: The shelf can only showcase 100 boxes at a time, so they bought 200 just so that they can refill it quickly in case they sold out. That is common shop practice. But here, it did not sell-out, so they added the extras on top and then lowered the price to attract the customers and sell out the remaining stock

One thing for certain in marketing, is that if you lower the price of an already released product, then that means it has passed its prime, and that translates to lower demand. If it's still in high demand, then no sane seller would cheap out their shit
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 6:41:23 PM No.102349753
>>102343793 (OP)
New stock buyback in 3... 2... 1...
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 6:42:32 PM No.102349764
>>102349135
Never gonna happen. They're konami bootlickers and have done multiple YGO master duel tourneys already. That's why this collab is kinda weird.
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 7:30:41 PM No.102350696
>>102348982
Duel Monsters didn't have any land cards, even very early on in the manga. I really don't think it was based on MtG. Inspired? Sure, but not based on.
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Anonymous
7/17/2025, 7:33:36 PM No.102350748
>>102348982
Thanks Claude.
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 7:35:33 PM No.102350775
>>102350696
The game was originally called "Magic & Wizards" lol I don't know how much more obvious they could make it.
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 7:53:41 PM No.102351085
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>>102348982
Thank you anon-sama. Never bothered to check out what it was about, only vaguely remember that the anime was a thing in the 2000s and then quickly forgotten about. Even more fascinating to hear that it was an attempt by the west to sell MtG to the nips kek.
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 7:55:43 PM No.102351129
>>102348982
This makes a lot of sense. I thought it was a failed yugioh knockoff too at the time.
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 7:56:52 PM No.102351160
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>>102348982
Duel Masters even has the Black Lotus, and unlike the western counterpart, this one is fairly common.
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Anonymous
7/17/2025, 8:02:13 PM No.102351315
>>102343793 (OP)
i hope i pull sex offender
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 8:03:32 PM No.102351348
>>102351160
I think this is the first time I've seen furigana used above an English word like that.
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 8:10:36 PM No.102351531
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>>102350696
anon. come on now.
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 9:42:15 PM No.102353558
>>102348405
>Have you never went to a supermarket before?
Have you? Supermarkets discount shit that they can't sell all the time. That's the worst example you could've chosen because it proves my point exactly.
>strategy to bring more people into the store to buy something regardless if it's in high demand or not
you are so close to getting it. It is a strategy to get more people into the store to buy something, but there is no reason to discount something that is selling up to expectation. If they're discounting it in order to sell more of it then the only reason for that is that, at the previous price, it was not selling at the necessary volume. Retailers don't throw darts at the Discount Dart Board and slash prices willy nilly. There is a reason why every discounted item is discounted, but the motivation behind it is always the same; increase sales volume!