From consistent 50k+ streams to sub 20k.
What's the morale of the story? Don't bait and switch? Don't spit into the faces of your fans to please twitter lunatics?

The moral of the story is to not go down the route of becoming a numbermonkey. Thank you for being a reverse role model, OP.

The more consistent she is with her streams, the more people realize how actually boring she is which leads to the decline

>>102401389 (OP)
I know very happy and fulfilled vtubers with 18 viewers. I'm sure with 19000 Saba isn't too worried.

>a vtuber's CCV gradually tapers off to a steady number following initial debut hype.
Groundbreaking research.

>>102401486
>following the trends and effects the actions of public figures have on themselves is... LE BAD

>>102401522
Yes, I'm sure she's very happy to lose over 50% of her active audience in a few days.

>>102401389 (OP)
>another Saba bait thread
Reimu's graduation confirmed.

When did Gura ever have 50k consistent CCV? Maybe in 2020

numbermonkeys are subhuman
more news at eleven

>>102401575
I know she's very happy to lose over 50% of her drama tourists in a few days, and if she ends up being a solid 4view she will remain happy, fulfilled, and living a comfortable life.

>>102401389 (OP)
Why is yagoo winning?
Where did all the viewers go?

>>102401619
But all her fans were claiming the exact opposite when she was getting bigger numbers, make up your fucking mind. Does she want to blend into the background or to be at the top?

>>102401486
FPBP

>>102401389 (OP)
The morale of the story is numbermonkeys don't understand the very numbers they ook about. Not that it was ever a secret.

>>102401515
This is the definitive truth nuke.

3rd ip entering the thread

>>102401389 (OP)
>please twitter lunatics
in what way did she do this? lol

>>102401803

>>102401389 (OP)
>barely started
>consistent
The moral of the story is that interest/hype based slopes and trends exist and nobody can escape it.

>>102401522
>it will be okay even if she has 18 viewers
The cope is already starting. What happened to her reaching 5m subs soon when people realize she debuted?

The five of you are really trying your damndest to make a nontroversy into a thing, huh?

>>102401803
Censored her animations and retconned herself to be 150cm.
>b-but 35cm was a joke!!
Yeah, but she was never meant to be a 150cm. The only reasonable assumption is that she was going to be 135ch. Gura is 141cm and there is no way she was going to be taller than her.
>b-but the height includes her ears!!
Cope.

>>102401389 (OP)
Why are you upset?

>>102401960
Welcome to /vt/

>>102401389 (OP)
Without the Blue Triangle seal of quality. no vtuber is actually good. Kurosanji, VShitshow, Phase Cucknnect, and every indie and failing vtuber corpo prove time and again that Hololive is top dog as only the best of the best are there. Everyone else is just trend chasers and poorly made copycats

>>102401981
Going to keep ignoring her tummy is still in the intro and she's still streaming with her tummy on screen?

>>102401389 (OP)
>>102401981
If it was just twitter lunatics she probably wouldn't have cared, just like she didn't when they went after her back in 2020/2021. It's probably more the issue that the owner of Kiwi Farms has declared some kind of faggy jihad against her specifically, as well as Shondo and Kiki.

>>102401389 (OP)
She filtered out the subhuman browns in her audience

>>102401389 (OP)
Hmmm... Four 50k streams a year or two to three 20k streams a week... Which is going to be more profitable?

I guess a lot of people refuse to be a cuck.

>>102402188
The catch is they won't stay 20k if she does them two or three times a week

>>102402211
If someone has that Demon Core Pomu plz post.

Why are holocucks so rabid lately?

>>102401989
He's worried the remaining holos will quit. which is weird. Every single person left in en needs hololive to succeed.

>>102401515
I thought being free from corpo chains would've led to her being more unhinged and energetic, but no she still feels like late Hololive Gura.

>>102401568
>debut hypes tend to last over a month
>saba loses half her viewers in a week
Yes, I'm sure it's just debut hype fading.

>>102401389 (OP)
She never had consistent 50k+ streams you retard. Her audience in holo was about ~15k on average for a normal stream in the last year. Hard to see because she was usually buffed by return streams after hiatuses or other such things.

And no shit people will go down after the redebut, there is no going up or keeping redebut numbers.

>>102402259
Look at the state of holoEN streams

>>102401981
her body to head proportion is of a 3 years old, even 130cm is too generous

>>102402143
that only makes her look more retarded to be fair

>>102401663
>her fans
>anonymous board

>>102401389 (OP)
I don't know if she's shadowbanned, but there was at some point a quick stop in sub growth.
That being said she doesn't seem to care too much about it, so maybe she's fine with the way things are going.

>>102402846
ofc she's fine with it, lets play the math game for a sec
180k viewers on redebut- even if just 1% member'd at the lowest tier, that's $9000 a month before cuts.

>>102401575
>following the trends and effects the actions of public figures have on themselves is... LE BAD
Do... do you think it's good? What the fuck is your point anon kek. Following trends is how you get a boiled down boring lowest common denominator slopfest

>>102401981
>150cm
I'm like 99% sure without checking that makes her 1cm shorter then she was as gura.

>>102403032
I'm 100% sure you are a braindead retard.

>>102401575
>t.

>>102402413
Thank you for proving the point retard.

>>102401981
lol grow up

>>102402413
>debut hypes tend to last over a month
Source to this claim? Aside from it being your unwashed asshole, I mean. I'm sure you conducted peer-reviewed statistical research.

>>102402251
HOPE HER HAND DOESN'T SLIP

>>102402846
All the vods with the uncensored intro (except the karaoke for some reason) are demonitized. He subgrowth also stalled hard before she cut the intro (before she outright changed it).
It's obvious she flew too close to the sun and angered the YouTube AI.
Guess they were right about her being a brand risk.

>>102401389 (OP)
doesnt your brown ass ever get sick of this?

>>102402143
Well, this is what you have to deal with when you are popular without corpo backing, gotta learn how to deal with it without backing down or you will be bullied off the internet

>>102401486
/thread
>>102401389 (OP)
>Don't spit into the faces of your fans to please twitter lunatics?
You need to take your meds

>>102401575
If you know Saba, yes, she might actually be happy. She always prefers a small, tight-knitted community over a massive one

>>102403962
If that were true she should have kept the old intro and stayed shadowbanned

>>102403962
Is that why she always ends up hating her fans?

>>102401389 (OP)
every time she streams shes spitting in the face of twitter lunatics(you) while her fans get kino. but you dont care your job is done now go collect your 1,145.56 PHP steam gift card nigger

>>102401389 (OP)
even if she slipped to 10k, thats an excellent indie spot. she won't have to worry about money and can do what she wants. i don't watch her and wish fags would stop spamming about her nonstop, but no matter her subs or streaming rate, that is one thing that will never change

>>102403975
There is zero indication of her having been shadowbanned and nothing she's done would have lifted a shadowban. Both the animation censorships and her height are a reaction to twitter "outrage."

>>102401575
>to lose over 50% of her active audience in a few days.
This never happened
Gura was a 20k streamer

>>102401981
>>102383270
Tummy!!!

>>102404098
>sabafaggots number fag all the way until the numbers arent big
kek, (You) fucking retards.

>>102404438
You will never see her full model on stream anymore, not with revealed tummy anyways, let alone see her do this again.

>>102403309
>Source to this claim?
The grifter in your image

>>102401389 (OP)
All corpos bot their streams.

>>102401619
>the more her CCV drops the lewder she becomes
Sausages Saba Sama!

>>102404634
>he doesnt think Saba is botted
ruhmao

>>102404657
All Vtubers are botted.

>>102404681
Not my 1-view grooming targ- waifu

>>102401389 (OP)
Her numbers always drop into the 15-20k territory when she consistently streams, such as during a lovebomb phase. Her massive numbers mostly happened because she was away so long her streams became events. Chumbud numberfags probably dont want to hear it, but OP is also a faggot if he thinks the multi millionaire is going to cry over ONLY getting 20k ccv as an indie.

>>102401486
The best takeaway from this thread desu, numbermonkeys are not happy people, it shows by what they spend their days obsessing over

>>102404634
I don't know why people still believe this after holoEN sold out all world tour concerts and all for one. And Mori sold out her sololive.
Meanwhile Nimi couldn't sell out her much smaller concert.

>>102401389 (OP)
Chumbuds always hated collabs. Gura pulled terrible numbers whenever she did a collab. Why would it be any different with Saba?

>>102401389 (OP)
note how this sister used "consistent" to imply any number of streams in only a week could possibly be considered a pattern.
but no, this is the expected drop in viewers that always happens.
myth busted.

>>102404609
NIJISEETHE

>>102402259
idol cults demand solidarity and they perceive anyone who disrupts that solidarity as a betrayer.
she was the biggest name in their cult, and so her leaving is the most disruptive.

>>102405109
>implying foids would be upset at saba for this >>102401981

>>102405226
didn't imply anything of the kind. this is two people mad on an anonymous image board and the rest are still jealous of gura's success. nobody is attributing this to her censorship in earnest because it's a nonissue.

>>102405265
>mental illness: the post

>>102402143
Qrd? I thought kiwi farms was dead

>>102402846
She cares though, she tunned down the loli.

>>102405373
What? Are you talking about the take down Kiwi Farms campaign? That took it down on the clearnet for about a month and then it was back up normally. In terms of a qrd about the Saba, Nimi, and Kiki thing, the owner has a hateboner for vtubers in general but in particular his attention has been drawn to loli vtubers and those three in particular. You can thank faggots like Gator for him taking notice of them.

>>102401486
FPBP
OP should have been aborted

>>102401575
>Faggot ass fucking seaidiot doesn't know Saba literally left Holo for this very reason
Yes, she is infact actually happy about it!

>>102401486
fpbp

>>102401486
True

>>102401575
>Yes, I'm sure she's very happy to lose over 50% of her active audience in a few days.
Wasn't that the point?

>>102401486
yet all chumkeks were number monkeys ... until it didnt fit their narrative of "saba best" ... so...

>>102401389 (OP)
The moral is chuubas aren't actually popular and bloated numberfagd and retard clipniggers are the cancer killing this medium

>last week when her subs increased at an insane pace
>Cumbuds: YEEESSSS FUCK ALL OF YOU SHE'LL HAVE 5 MILLION IN A WEEK
>today when her sub growth slowed down drastically
>Cumbuds: F-F-Fuck you numberfags

>>102409928
or they're not the same people because this is an anonymous image board and you look retarded right now
occam, reveal your wisdom!

>>102405839
God I hate Gator.
It was such a mistake that he wasn't immediately chased out from the platform.

>>102401981
It was never up for debate. We all know how tall Saba was at 17 years old, that info is no secret.
This is not the hill you people want to die on.

>>102401981
Why would she be 135cm? Mackerels are 35cm.
If anything, I'm glad she did it just to filter out schizos like you who take this like some great affront.

>>102401981
Why does anyone give a fuck about the number of cm she says she is. Bro, Saba doesn't have a reall body. All that mattes is her model.
Also I prefer the tummy intro but she still streams unbuttoned so actually what is the big deal.

>>102410817
I think it's probably just the principle, people expected her to be more unfiltered and raw post-corpo so it can be a disappointment to see her censoring herself even more

>>102409928
>raging against an imaginary foe
>in a bait thread
>on an image board about vtubers
Grim

If numberfags truly cared about numbers they would neck themselves the moment their oshi's hit a bit below their usual CCV numbers, the fact that this and several others threads exist tell they are just regular thread shitters and no one should care about their opinion!

>>102401389 (OP)
This happens to every single vtuber redebut, even your beloved jps, you fucking retard.
Maybe you thought they would immediately and permanently duplicate their viewership just for leaving hololive, numbwit. She got like 9 million views on vods in a bit over 3 weeks, she will do fine.

>>102411359
They don't have an oshi, you stupid fuck, they never did

>>102409928
>Through the badlands, through the jungle
>comes a brownman riled in sneethe
>Tilting at the windmills passing
>who can this short bald brownman be?

>>102401389 (OP)
Nice indie box

>>102401389 (OP)
A recent yab jannies don't want you to know about

>>102412647
That's actually a pretty big box considering a chunk of that group is on a different website and how they were all overlapping

>>102404609
kek

>>102402506
Cope

>>102412647
It's bigger than Vshojo, Phase, and Niji EN

>>102401389 (OP)
Disinterested hype subhumans walk away after the initial burst in views caused by her being on the front page and slop streamers like Asmon mentioning her. Now only the true fans remain.
It has zero impact on her earnings.

>>102421994
Why do people bring up Asmon all the time like he's the king of twitch streaming or something? I don't even think he's in the top 50 for most watched dudes on there.

>>102422348
Biggest live numbers on Twitch, and he is a slop creator who showcases everything, unlike other big streamers like Kai Cenat, who just create brainrot.

>>102401389 (OP)
Nimiseethe

>>102404107
that makes absolutely no sense that she is "censoring" herself which is at most 4 minutes of waiting for the changed images in the intro, when she's bare the other 2 hours. also bare tummy is still one of the rotating images.

the height on her ID of being 35cm (13") was part of the joke of the fish license being legit.

>>102404819
>Meanwhile Nimi couldn't sell out her much smaller concert.

Concert was sold out. if you tried to go to the step of actually submitting paymentof the remaining seats, you were met with payment error. I have no idea why those seats in the back were blocked off, but I also didn't see them either. They may have been broken seats/seats that didn't exist..

I love how antis are just gonna pretend like 5view is a bad thing now

>>102401389 (OP)
>morale
ESL

>Spends entire latest stream with dress open
>"Nooo she's definitely self censoring"
I love how there's absolutely nothing real for you guys to shit on her for so you have to make up scenarios in your head

>>102426501
Why would that be considered shitting?
And she is still with Holo.

>>102401850
Thats actually kinda hot wait, i need this

>>102401389 (OP)
never cuck your fanbase for fucking twitter trannies

>>102401389 (OP)
She's doing good but given she was Gura I was expecting her numbers to go wild.
She's 100% shadowbanned.

>>102401389 (OP)
20k-25k viewers are her normal CCV she had for over 3 years but nice try Saarr

>>102429128
not even what happened but go off mr. pagpag

>>102402259
The only thing that gives meaning to their lives is dying

Holodrones seething they lost so many big streamers.
Even if she goes down to 5k, it's 5k that don't go corpo trash.

>>102405839
>Has a specific hateboner for lolitubers
Oh, so Moon has at least a TB of CP and/or talking to children on roblox/reddit/discord like a projecting nigger faggot. That explains everything.

>>102430430
Funny enough, there exists rumors of Jersh trying to groom a 14 year old on some forum years ago. There is also a rumor that he used goon to shota shit. He's probably a self-hating pedo and to be fair, I'd hate myself too if everytime I looked into the mirror I had to deal with the fact that I looked like a younger, white trash sargon.

>>102429168
Cope

>>102402259
they are afraid

>>102401486
fippybippy

>>102431021
>rumor that he used goon to shota shit
That bit isn't a rumour, there are chat logs from years ago of him saying he wanked off to shota porn so much he couldn't get hard anymore. Dunno about the grooming thing but it wouldn't surprise me.

>>102401486
fpbp