A moment of silence for the majority whose careers ended or remain crippled by their abusive ex-bosses

>>102436223 (OP)
british sex slug...

>>102436223 (OP)
Mogu is doing fine

>>102436223 (OP)
Of them, Mogu's pretty well received and seems to be doing okay. the alien is sadly a bit too crazy for me. I remember dropping her after she went on a political rant in a random jackbox stream. No idea who the shellfish is.
Only really Sayu's been crippled specifically from the corpo. She lost all of her connections almost instantly (a terrible fate for an extrovert who prided herself on knowing and befriending people), turned into a crazy self-destructing menhera from the loss/harassment, became even more stupid when it came to trusting people due to desperately wanting validation now, became unable to properly collab anymore due to a mental block that forces her to pause before every reaction she makes, and missed out on an important year or two of growth where all of her "friends" shot past her. Many of them still have her name banned in chat, and several of them sucked up to Doki the instant she was terminated because it was suddenly ok to be against Niji.

Where is Nimi, Dooby and Saba???

>>102436417
Currently pulling better numbers than they did in the last year with their old corpos.

>>102436395
I guess. I checked her numbers before throwing this together, and they are decent, but probably not as good as she could've been in a more supportive environment. But point taken. I just feel so goddamn bad for her.

>>102436223 (OP)
>get canned
>fire up a stream with company assets anyway
Squrmimi shined too bright. It sounded like she lived in squalor so I feel bad for her.

>>102436453
>Nimi lost to holoID
>Saba struggled to get 20k with no overlap and her 2 sidekicks
>Doob RUMAO

>>102436880
i wish i was as retarded as you, life would be so much simpler

>>102436223 (OP)
what the fuck is that on the right why does she look like that

>>102437140
its impossible to be as stupid as that guy he took lessons from the pro's

>>102437167
It's a ghost thing

>>102437167
That's Mogu, aka Victoria Brightshield. She graduated late last year and went on a rant about how management doesn't care about her and how soul-crushing the work environment is.

>>102436223 (OP)
>>102436395
>>102436402
>>102437549
Mogu is doing fine in Glitch Stars

>>102437167
her arms are like this because she's a freaky ghost

>>102437591
Mogu and Sunny are both 3views who only break into being 4views with raids that they don't retain. Sunny is both a react slopper AND a flesh streamer now while Mogu is just forgotten.

They both flopped

>>102438354
hi /corpo/schizo

>>102436223 (OP)
You know the thing I never get about numbermonkeys?
You can literally be a low 3 view and still make enough money to stream full time. So why do you schizo retards act like barely breaking 1000 is somehow bad?
Any streamer with 1000 ccv has literally won in life

>>102438447
if numbermonkeys weren't this retarded they wouldn't be numbermonkeys

>>102438402
They got scammed by some poacher. They're still corpo, just in one that flopped

>>102438447
Sometimes they're just using it to shit on someone they don't like
Sayu is the prime example
Basically packaged victim blaming

>>102438655
>Sincrocuck exposes himself

>>102438655
So just say what you don't like about the person like a grown adult you dumbass
Quit hiding behind number garbage

>>102438678
Not everyone who chooses not to participate in your retarded campaign is a sayufag

>>102438678
Jesus the way Sayu's antis jump to "sincrocuck sincrocuck" is impressive
She's managed to get herself some insane haters

>>102438698
Nooo you don't understand only good people become 4views!!! Everyone else is inherently bad :)

>>102438744
>>102438788
Not liking Sayu is common sense. Personally thanking her schizos for harassing other vtubers can't be excused because of a perpetual victimhood mentality, Piprup

>>102438354
Wait Sunny showed face? What is she out of 10

>>102438744
not everyone, but you sure as hell are

>>102438849
I think she made one stream with a maid dress (charity milestone or something like that) but she didn't show her face

>>102438895
yeah, but to the /corpo/schizo even gloveless handcams are whoredom
don't try to understand him, he's beyond mindbroken

>>102438839
>>102438890
You guys seem fun at parties

>>102439009
>guys
It's likely one schizo at this point who seems to browse every thread specifically for a sayu mention to start shouting "SINCROKEK SINCROKEK." The dude's like lightning whenever she even comes up in passing

>>102439059
>SINCROKEK
haha newfag

>>102439059
Careful, that anons gonna call you a sincrocuck soon

>>102439009
>You don't like chuubas who outright encourage their fans to harass other chuubas? You're no fun
Common psycho sincrocuck response. Hi, Piprup

>>102439080
Sorry, I don't use the word enough to know nor care about the replacements. You seem very well versed in it, though. Do you have something to share with the class?

>>102439159
you sound like a bonafide redditard, so you're obviously pipcuck
your whore oshi will never fuck you lil bro

>>102439228
Anon, are you okay? Show me on the doll where Sayu touched you.

>>102439122
>>102439228
You're the one going apeshit on some boogeyman but sure I'm the psycho

>>102439316
Weren't you the one going on about victim blaming like some complete retard?

>>102439000
It's common for middle eastern / SEA people to shame showing skin on women. That's what a burka is for

>>102439316

>>102439351
No but you guys are behaving with the same insanity demonstrated by Nijisisters, who are constantly victim blaming, so maybe that anon is right?

>>102439228
Remember that sayu said she would become a literal whore if vtubing fell through for her. So don't count pip out just yet

>>102439388
Nice inspect element bro, you hackerman or some shit?

>>102439391
>Victim blaming
>Niji out of nowhere
It truly must be tiring to be so cucked that you have to defend that ugly bitch

>>102439427
kek true

>>102439000
>Shaking your ass and tits in a maid dress isn't being a whore
Good to know

>>102439483
If the shoe fits

>>102439512
>Shaking
you got any clips?

>>102439483
Uh oh, did I strike a nerve perchance?

>>102439512
Does that mean every hologirl with jiggle physics is also a whore?

>>102439512
>seething at charity
I hope your country loses power.

>>102439576
Do Hologirls turn on their cameras, put on a sexy dress and start shaking their ass for the camera?

>>102439512
Just tell me if her gyatt is level 5, that's all I care about

>>102439314
since you asked nicely... >>82493844

>>102439601
Does doing charity require shaking your ass?

>>102439643
Anon, that didn't answer the question... You're deflecting again...

Jesus are Sayu's schizos always this rabid? I'm glad Mogu doesn't have to deal with this bullshit

>>102436223 (OP)
Girl on the far left is not only a total slut who openly lusts for cocks, but during her separation talks with her old company, she suddenly went went public within hours of the company's newest gen to shit on it and talk about how they were "baby nijisanji" and how Dokibird inspired her to speak out. Whatever greviances she had, she not only wielded them against the corpo but against the other girls as well.

Other three are fine, although middle-right one also is a schizo and not a purely innocent victim.

>>102439652
Again, anon, it sounds like it was an incentive to donate or some kind of goal.
What do you have against women showing skin? Are you okay? Is that not halal?

>>102439678
just keep reading >>101146786

>>102439717
Yes
It's because Sayu used to like to play "poke the hornet's nest" while Mogu is just quiet and keeps to herself

>>102439776
To be fair Sayu had (and arguably will always have) an axe to grind with Niji whereas Mogu was able to leave without a bullet list

>>102439771
This doesn't explain anything, anon. Why are you melting down over this girl? Did she hurt you somehow? This feels personal.

>>102439804
Doesn't make her less stupid for it. Doki has reason to hate niji much more than Sayu and yet just wants to avoid them

>>102439810
I can't stand vtubers who hate their fans. Read the links and if you still can't see it then there's no helping you.

>>102439610
They do it with their models instead, which I guess makes it okay for you.

>>102439839
I'm not saying her actions were ultimately right though but yeah

>>102439842
>I can't stand vtubers who hate their fans
That's still a pretty visceral reaction, anon. Were you a fan or something? What happened?
>>102439839
In Doki's case she actually had the clout to push back. iirc Sayu was basically just nonperson'd by everyone.

>>102439842
Fun fact: you can ignore the vtubers you hate, instead of whatever the hell you're doing lol

>>102439924 (me)
I forgot a sentence
She was nonperson'd by everyone in a career where your reputation and connections are everything. If things stayed the way they were, everyone would've continued avoiding her because of the rrats like her being a pedophile or whatever.
Granted, she's still not exactly in a good position after coming out, but I can't think of anything else she could've done.

So can I get some names of who these people are, and who they were?

>>102439924
>What happened?
Read >>102439643 again. The worst part was that she scheduled the shady link and was offline when it went out. I was still in her discord back then, and her mods/staff were TERRIFIED because they knew exactly what would happen next, because even they knew the link looked dodgy.

>>102439988
It's an unfortunate thing where the first whistleblower gets the worst treatment compared to subsequent victims
Many such cases historically:
>Anita Hill vs Clarence Thomas
>Woody Allen
>Harvey Weinstein
>Jeffrey Epstein

>>102439952
I could ignore her if you stopped spamming her and always going out of your way to never include her name in the OP just to evade filters people have set up.

>>102440098 (me)
The first case tends to help the following cases benefit from the media exposure and an audience primed for the possibility of the abuser being actually bad

>>102440063
Are you sure? I just joined the discord to check and searched every variation/response to the link and I can't find much of anything calling it shady. The only thing I see is people worried about joining the chinese thing, but apparently trusting her anyways.

>>102440163
By the way the Chinese corpo did shut down but she and the other girls ended up fine, but people like to pretend that they got scammed in the end

>>102440163
it was probably deleted, I'm not going back there to check

>they don't know how much these girls make now there is no corpo cut

>>102440047
AlianMixture - Amano Serafi, terminated after her corpo tried to extort her 450,000 USD to graduate, with itemized sections like "etc." for 20k.

Sayu - Zaion Lanza. Ex-niji who was the first to get terminated with a long list of sins, many of which ended up being bunk, but the stuff she did do was likely worth a termination (mentioning romhacks and emulators being the biggest one). Came out with a google dockey of her side of the story basically saying the same shit as what happened during Selen, but nobody cared and she was harassed/isolated for months. On top of that, sisters leaked hard doxx on twitter under each of her posts and the termination notice itself with her name, address, photo, and even her passport for about a week.
Eventually was able to come back but became a bit of a menhera mess from the whole ordeal and the entire scene avoids her now because of the niji stigma.

Dunno about the shellfish

MoguGhost - Victoria (Vivi) Brightshield. Ex-niji. Nice girl who had some very terrible words to say about the company on her way out. Was very explicit about her problems with the company and cried on stream for hours about it. Sisters dislike her because when they claimed she was upset with niji antis, she told them no and her problem was with Niji itself.

Sayu's case is very different in scale and results from the other 3, so I can only assume she was the main target for this bait thread.

>>102440550
>so I can only assume she was the main target for this bait thread.
many such cases

>>102440550
OP here. Believe it or not, Sayu wasn't a target. My main agenda was to remind people who watch big ex-corpo indies partly out of moral preference that as happy as we should be for their success, they should also remember the smaller ex-corpo chuubas who also might have gone through horrific work conditions in their PLs and might still be struggling. In fact, I was initially going to have them overshadowed by giant pictures of Doki or Mint, but then I realized that would undermine my point rather than reinforce it.

>>102440916 (Me)
A secondary goal is to remind people that the indie/corpo divide isn't just a matter of creative freedom and audience tastes, but also has an economic element of labor practices. Far too often, if a terminated chuuba isn't morally perfect, we allow those individual imperfections to overshadow underlying issues of labor practice and exploitation. I'm not saying that individual conduct doesn't matter, but that we should always remember that our oshis are also workers, and sometimes workers get abused and suffer as a result.

>>102439894
>3D model is the same as fleshposting

Why are you faggots so desperate?

>>102439732
>Why do you not like it when vtubers fully whore themselves out and flesh post?
One can only wonder. Just ditch the model and become like any other Twitch whore

>>102442438
>someone doing a cooking stream in a tasteful maid dress is a whore
>someone using a 3D model to shake her ass like a stripper is not a whore
I have no problem with either of these things, it's you fags who seem desperate to paint any and all indies as whores while ignoring what goes on in corpos. There is no difference.

>>102442529
They did, though. Isn't that why you're complaining? So why are you still talking about them and trying to start shit when they're not vtubers and thus could just be ignored?

>>102442619
>Someone shaking their virtual ass is the same as someone shaking their real ass in a maid dress
Find me one corpo that lets their members flesh stream and shake their ass for the camera

>>102442632
>They did, though
I didn't know Sunny fully committed to becoming a flesh streamer despite her still constantly still using her model

>>102440098
Good point, I've actually seen those things happen and it does suck for victim #1 because the pattern hasn't been established yet but everyone else benefits
Now by no means am I a fan of Sayu in this case (I don't watch any Niji's, former or current) but it does seem like her work is now very often understated
>Inb4 sincrocuck screeches

>>102443157
She exposed nothing worthwhile and got herself fired immediately like a retard

>>102439894
>>102439894
this is why i prefer squ, she's knows how to please her viewers, and has legs and thighs
>legs and thighs, that cat is a steel.

>>102444124
Who? Unfamiliar with her.

>>102444505
Isn't she the one obsessed with BBC?

>>102438354
They're small fries, sure, but the point is they're doing better now as indies than they were in their corp.

>>102444585
Nanimo Navi from EIEN. Went full menhera vtweeter after the corp broke up

>>102444586
who knows, she's white so maybe.

>>102444755
They're low 3views on fucking twitch who have almost entirely vanished from mind share. In Nijisanji, they were 4views/ high 3views that were always relevant. Mogu is forgotten. Sunny is both whoring herself out and her most successful content is a react channel where the channel isn't even hers and has already had its success fade away. They got listened to some retarded poacher and got scammed, happens to the dumbest of us

>>102444857
Neither of them were 4views, both of them barely made any money - Sunny said her first merch run made more than her entire time in Niji and Vivi once had a breakdown over spilling some stew because she couldn't afford food. Both are doing far better.

>>102444857
You have to wait a little longer before starting the historical revisionism, man. The ex- Paladins and Nakarats are still here. They were frequently dipping into 2-view as Nijis and were so irrelevant management literally forgot they existed. Kunai was AWOL for months before finally graduating.

>>102444853
Eien had some fucking amazing designs. I still think about that fish girl. Kilia I think?
>>102444857
Sunny and Mogu were dead on arrival because they only existed to get Claude into the corpo. They were very low 3views and get FAR better viewership now.
I still can't believe just how badly Claude fucked them over. They should've just put him in a boy wave or something.
It's almost poetic how he's the only one left after getting completely blindsided by them leaving.

>>102444966
As the OP, I feel like including Mogu might have been a mistake in retrospect, since in the end, mindshare matters less than actual wellbeing.

>>102445067
He's a cunt but I wouldn't really blame him for the issues with TTT.

>>102445067
>I still think about that fish girl. Kilia I think
I liked it better before I realized the design was another Shylilly clone. But Kilia is cool. She's a bat now.

>>102445067
>Eien had some fucking amazing designs.
Tell me about it. And yeah, Kilia was great, we desperately need more monstergirls with black sclera.

>>102445130
What's the new name? She's a fun kind of menhera

>>102445238
ekkomori

>>102445130
wait is that a fucking Moviebob poster in the back?

>>102445105
I think this is the thing. A lot of people, particularly on /vt/, see the large indies (and some of the corpos) and think that unless you're a high 4view (or even 5view) and have constant exposure you've failed. When in reality you can be a mid 3view indie and still potentially make enough to live on - not to mention, as you say, wellbeing. Mogu seems genuinely happy these days from what I've seen, same as Sunny.

>>102445321
>Mogu seems genuinely happy these days from what I've seen, same as Sunny
The corp they landed in seems nice but I never see their fans talking about it or vice versa. They should be big draws but they feel more like islands.

>>102444966
>Neither of them were 4views
A lie
>both of them barely made any money
Kunai didn't stream for most of her career. The amount of hoops you have to jump through to say that someone crying on stream is because they have no money is insane. Cope more
>The ex- Paladins and Nakarats are still here. They were frequently dipping into 2-view as Nijis
Are these people in the room right now? They were never two views, they are close to dipping to into them on Twitch though
>They were very low 3views and get FAR better viewership now
No, genuinely. Why are so many dramafags completely lying about their numbers? Vivi completely mogs Mogu with or without raids. Plus stop pretending like Mogu and Sunny weren't friends with Claude when they outright said they were and to stop harassing him

>>102436223 (OP)
>go indie go die

>>102445364
Holy shit I thought it was just some catalogfag shitting on smaller chuubas but it's an actual sister. I thought your kind didn't show your faces outside your general anymore.
>a lie
Nope, picking out a few streams does not make her a 4view - here's 6 months of streams.
>The amount of hoops you have to jump through to say that someone crying on stream is because they have no money is insane
She made her views quite clear about how unhappy she was in your company, despite you faggots trying to spin it as her talking about """Niji antis""" until she slapped you down.
As for the rest you're responding to another anon's post, I don't know why you're addressing me and not them. Bit again, they're happier and better off outside of Niji - you can keep coping all you like. Move on with your life and stop trying to constantly drag down those who escaped you sad little SEA.

>>102445955 (me)
Forgot the pic.

>>102445350
Because glitch stars doesn't exactly do much. It's just a pet project that the rich guy made because one of his friends told him to start an agency to edit clips for her

>>102444755
>3 view
>breaking into 4 view
>small fry

>>102444079
Seething sister spotted lol

>>102444857
Pretty sure Sunny was the Niji 2view speed run record holder, I have no fucking clue what you're spewing

>>102445350
>I never see their fans talking about it or vice versa
/gsg/ is still going strong, but they left /vt/. Many of their talents are pretty popular in other generals as well like /pxl/ (former Pixels), /mint/ (Femwisps) and /corpo/ (I think? God knows what /corpo/ is up to, but they have a lot of Glitchstars OPs)

>>102446211
Whenever I've dropped into /corpo/ it seems to be filled with schizos.

>>102446257
/corpo/ is the worst thread on the board.

>>102445977
man, vivi's design was peak. niji is such a waste of art

>>102436223 (OP)
I just browsed /pits/ so I have to ask: which one has the best pits?

>>102446139
Nah that was DeNauth. Twisty and Klara were constantly racing to the bottom, with Ryoma on their tails.

>>102447290
https://files.catbox.moe/zu7fqp.jpg

>>102447426
Thanks anon, would fuck

>>102441133
Sir, this is 4chan.

>>102436223 (OP)
The fact that you used the models of three active indies and only one of them is the old corpo model, and yet you present all four of them as "fallen", and nobody is pointing this out, is driving me nuts.

>>102445955
>here's 6 months of streams
That prove she was never a 2view and was high 3view to 4view. Thanks for proving my point, retard. Vivi had a higher CCV than Mogu even on YouTube
>She made her views quite clear about how unhappy she was in your company
Deflection from there being no proof of her not making any money in Niji
>they're happier and better off outside of Niji
Mogu is forgotten and is still a menhera. Sunny has to resort to fleshposting and is still a menhera. They were poached by a grifter and fell for the bait.

>>102445615
>Listen to retards telling you to leave your corpo and you'll be successful
>Flop
Many such cases

>>102451356
What "menhera" things have Sunny and mogu done?

>>102439725
Sounds just like Doki but with less popularity. KWAB

>>102451356
all of that and she's STILL happier outside of Niji?
Damn, I guess Niji is worth less than everything you just said.

>>102439725
Aren't you missing something kind of important?
You know, the 450k USD extortion payment they threatened her with for leaving, then had a shitfit on twitter about how they were gonna sue her for leaking it?

>>102451628
Other than the crying and complaining?
>>102451640
Can't say you regret leaving or the saviorfags will get upset

>>102451742
>Other than the crying and complaining?
When did they do that? Give timestamps.

>>102451801


https://www.twitch.tv/sunnysplosion/v/2494943864?sr=a&t=3173s

About an hour in, she starts complaining about expenses and GlitchStars not helping pay for anything at offkai

The slug model was goated reeeeeeeeee

>>102436284
>>102436753
>>102439725
>>102440550
Squrnimi has been openly political and is a bit of a vtweeter of her new account.
at the very least be warned and dont get your hopes up with her.

>>102451899
wait, THAT's all you have now? A girl complaining that she couldn't afford to buy everything at Offkai?

>>102446000

>>102452026
glitch stars antis aren't very smart

>>102452845

>>102438447
We don't call them monkeys for nothing

>>102452885
That's just a meme, anon. Leah still works in IT, vtubing is just a side activity for her. "A toxic corp with no other options" fits Stim like a glove, she used to work in environmental engineering before becoming a GS manager (and eventually a chuuba under GS).

>>102452989
Yeah, I know.
Still funny.
Regardless, the corp itself isn't exactly front and center on the chuuba's streams.

>>102436223 (OP)
Who the fuck are anyone except Sayu?!

>>102452026
>Couldn't afford to buy anything
GlitchStars didn't cover for anything set up at the meet and greet

>>102453187
Why would GlitchStars pay anything for the Meet & Greet? The Meet & Greets were handed by Offkai, and the vtuber doesn't have to physically go to Offkai to be a part of the Meet & Greet either.

>>102453223
>handed
lol wrong. Also Meet and Greets get covered by corpos like Hololive. Only the scam corpo doesn't cover the cost for them

>>102453223
GS had their own M&G at their booth, only Nova was part of the Offkai M&G

>>102453882
What do corpos have to "cover" for Meet & Greets? What "cost" is associated? Vtubers can conduct their M&G remotely, so it's not like anyone has to pay for flight/room/food/etc.

>>102439717
Mogu is a good person, sayu is not.

>>102453951
And what about the whole booth and the technology used to run it? Sunny clearly said it was really expensive. Which also means she's not as rich as she seems either

>>102453951
he's grasping at straws, this is the actual timestamp
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2494943864?t=01h19m04s

>>102454101
What technology? An iPad tablet and a monitor? Those are provided by Offkai. How else do you think literal 1views get to do M&G at Offkai?

>>102453991
this

>>102454156
>Those are provided by Offkai
Holy fucking delusion

>>102454178
do you think every talent has to buy a monitor just for a meet and greet at a place they might not even go to? LMAO

>>102452845
Was the person who took their life a vtuber? If yes, who?

>>102454210
Those are usually covered by a company. Sunny said nothing was covered by her company. Offkai isn't paying for people's booths, retard. Especially when they're not even official guests

>>102454257
I don't know

>>102454262
She said she opted to buy the badge herself because there was no need for her to take a corpo badge, because the only thing she did at offkai as a GS member was a *remote* meet-and-greet at the GS booth, for which the corpo already had the hardware.
Everything else she did there was as a private citizen.

>>102454116
So basically:
>Sunny was not invited as a guest by Offkai, and was not participating in any panels, only M&G that vtubers can do remotely (they don't need to physically be there to participate)
>But Sunny wanted to go to Offkai to party, so she paid for it herself
>This is normal for all vtuber corpos
>Nothing mentioned about booth costs or M&G costs or equipment costs

>>102454306
>for which the corpo already had the hardware.
Wrong. She said they didn't pay for anything convention wise. Which includes the booth

>>102454364
yes

>>102454364
>She didn't mention the specific costs so they don't exist
Retard

>>102454376
anon, your English reps...

>>102454442
Anon, she literally said she had a sponsor that helped cover the cost for the booth. She said it was really expensive. Learn to listen?

>>102454427
She doesn't have to mention the specific costs, she just had to mention that she had to pay for the booth at all. But she didn't mention that at all.

>>102454478
>she just had to mention that she had to pay for the booth at all.
She did. She said she had to get a sponsor to help pay for it. Fucking listen

>>102454500
She said "sponsored booth", as in a booth space they got because Glitchstars (the company) is a sponsor to Offkai:
https://www.offkaiexpo.com/sponsors/

>>102454463
see
>>102454543

>>102454543
>as in a booth space
They didn't get anything from GlitchStars, she said they helped pay for nothing. Paying for the booth would have been paying for something related to the convention which she said she had to do herself. She talked about how expensive she was so she clearly paid for it

>>102454593
She literally did not say any of that at all. Go on, give an EXACT timestamp and type out EXACTLY word-for-word what she said. You won't.

>>102454607
Buddy, the stream is there. She very clearly said there was a (very tiny) booth that was sponsored and that GS paid for literally nothing but dinner once. She also said everyone who bought front row tickets to the phase concert got scammed but that's besides the point

>>102454711
who is your oshi, esl-kun?

>>102454726
I know who yours is now, phasecuck

>>102454731
my oshi is in glitch stars tho not Sunny

>>102454744
Hide behind your meatbags all you want, phasecuck

>>102454711
>still not giving an exact timestamp and typing out word-for-word what she said
Shouldn't be that hard

>>102454757
Watch the stream or give up

>>102454813
Sounds like you're afraid to provide proof.

>>102454832
Already gave the time. Watch it yourself

>>102451937
A look at her PL and yeah, her left-lib-lgbt typical modern woman crap was a no-go for me.

>>102454840
No, you did not. Give the EXACT timestamp and type out EXACTLY what she said word-for-word. Do it. You won't.

>>102454900
>Spoon-feed me more
You know when I said it was about an hour in? An hour is sixty minutes. Have fun

>>102454909
Still refusing to provide proof, huh? Figures. Because if it was real, you would want to make it very clear and easy to share for shitposting purposes. Not "it's somewhere in there bro, just trust me".

>>102454956
>Provides proof
>"You didn't type out exactly what she said for five minutes so that's not proof"
Ok, faggot. Sunny is so broke that she needs another job that she hates to support herself btw

>>102454977
>deflecting
So you don't have any proof. Alright, I accept your concession :)

>>102455061
Except the stream and time I gave, sure

>>102454755
I have never watched phase and I never will, esl-kun

>>102455066
A stream you refuse to link exact timestamps for and refuse to type out what she said word-for-word, yes.

>>102436395
>>102437591
It's more like she's doing roughly the same as before she joined Niji which is a good thing. She gained a small amount of new fans but streams are still small and comfy unless it's that combined twitch collab chat thing and she did mention a couple of times she only joined ShitStars for merch opportunities because she wants her fans to have nice merch of her. I do feel bad for her though, she would talk about her days before joining with so much excitement with so many opportunities yet the entire time she was there sounded like hell.

>>102455107
>A stream you refuse to link exact timestamps
An hour in is pretty exact, ESL chama. I'm not typing out an essay for your convenience. Watch it yourself

>>102455125
You don't have to type out an essay. If she said "The booth was expensive", just give the timestamp of her saying that. It's not that hard. I mean, unless she didn't say that, that is.

>he's afraid
>he lost the argument already because he misheard a phrase >>102454543
>keeps doubling down anyway

>>102455110
>Apply for a job at a corpo
>Think it'll not operate as a job
>It does operate like a job and actually requires work
>Seethe about it and quit
Can't feel bad for Kunai or Vivi

>>102444755
>they're doing better now as indies
Based on what metric? They're lackluster streamers that even the "graduation buff" couldn't help them.

>>102445067
>I still can't believe just how badly Claude fucked them over
You really think it's his fault that they both couldn't handle corpo life?

>>102455167
nijiseethe

>>102455203
The only one seething is Kunai about how much she hates her actual job and wishes she could be a full time vtuber like the majority of Nijisanji

>>102454543
They only got a panel, and I would know because I attended it in person. It was Jeporady with prerecorded clips from the girls on the questions and merch as prizes. Not too bad though, but certainly quite something for a smaller corpo like Glitch Stars to hold.

>>102455307
I don't know how to break the news to you, sister, but most nijis also have day jobs.

>>102455329
>Only person in Niji that has a day job is Aia and she says she doesn't need it but she continues working there because she likes it
Embarrassing

>>102455348
you can't live off of 2% LMAOOOOO

>>102455360
>He says as Kunai's genmate threw himself a party because he used his Nijisanji money to pay off his student debt
>And so did Aia

Meanwhile Sunny is stuck working at a company she hates because she needs money. Damn, what a flop. If only that poacher didn't speak those honeyed words at her

imagine if "people" on this board were actually capable of comprehending text instead of inventing rrats

>>102455398
>himself
I wasn't talking about the male talents.

>>102455476
Well it's a good thing that Aia also did the same thing then

>>102455494
>one (1) girl
ogey

>>102455542
Petra and Finana have also said Nijisanji is putting them through university

>>102455681
not for free, considering even the debuts are paid back by the talents

>>102455727
>even the debuts are paid back by the talents
Wrong, they get a budget and pay themselves for going over. But good on you for ignoring the evidence that Nijisanji members get paid a lot by parroting some rrat with no evidence

>>102455778
>they get a budget
Sure explains why some organs do shitty mspaint/PowerPoint debuts then

>>102455799
lmao rekt

>>102455799
They also get to keep the money if it goes under, retard

>>102455843
>Niji lets their slave organs pocket their unused budget
Lole

>>102456097
You've got a weird sexual fantasy there, frogposting faggot. Fact is that the majority of members in NijiEN don't have another job. Sunny outright said she hated her actual job but keeps doing it because she needs the money. If Sunny actually fucking tried, she could have pulled a Pomu and quit her office job since she was making more than enough at Niji.

But that poaching bug got in her ear, what a shame

>>102437192
>pro's
From the pro's what, esl dumbass?

>>102455843
>Source: my ass

>>102456250
Why does Sunny have a day job that she openly hates if she makes so much money being in GlitchStars? Go on

>>102456281
What does that have to do with Niji letting new organs pocket leftover debut money according to you? Go on

>>102456147
spiders aren't bugs, retard

>>102456335
Don't care, fuck spiders

>>102439512
You sound like a guy from a news article where you kill your sister for exposing her hand in public. The only way a woman will ever touch your dick is through an arranged marriage, because one will never willingly touch you.

>>102456576
I'm just pointing out that the twitch whore is a twitch whore, Brody

>>102455360
sad attempt at trolling. be ashamed of yourself.

>>102455799
bc why not? it's cheap and fun to do.

>>102455398
Kunai wasn't going to pay SHIT off with sub 100 viewers.

>>102457200
i mean, it's not like she even tried. she disappeared after like six months of streaming and graduated without a word.

>>102456403
>fuck spiders
So it was you.

>>102451637
This. Every small ex-corpo thinks they can be the next Doki if they just use the right words and tie it back to Nijisanji somehow

>>102457200
>Sub 100
We've been through this, retard. They were high 3views to 4views

AlienMixture when she was Serafi openly said during a GTA stream that she saw someone do a cum tribute to her and literally yelled out "YOU HAVE A NICE DICK"

>>102458756
grim

>>102445364
>The amount of hoops you have to jump through to say that someone crying on stream is because they have no money is insane.

It's even crazier to know that it actually happened in this company. Michi said she couldn't afford to eat every day living in fucking Indonesia.

Mogu was broke from paying car taxes and was practically begging for food from Sunny, who, as you yourself admit, couldn't make any significant money in the company.
https://x.com/MoguGhost/status/1843365776109253025

>>102458756
which one

>>102458756
okay, i will check her out

>>102459074
>Mogu was broke from paying car taxes and was practically begging for food from Sunny,
And other hysterical delusions dramafags come up with while the actual members in Niji are talking about paying off student debts and buying houses

>>102459630
>And other hysterical delusions dramafags come up with while the actual members in Niji are talking about paying off student debts and buying houses
The last time I heard about a debt being paid, it was Twisty's debt to the company.

And. did anyone else buy house besides Mista?

>>102438447
Because it's always been Holofags who are number monkeys as a way to gloat that what they like is better than everything else. Instead of watching who they gloat about.

>>102459746
shu for his family

>>102459074
Admittedly, that was only due to Niji scamming her on taxes. Oh wait.

>>102459746
>Twisty
lmao, Twisty? The one who was caught lying about Nijisanji forcing people to delete PLs and alts while she had three different accounts when she was in Niji? The girl who invites groomers to a secret discord , says how much she appreciates them for giving her money then calls them creeps in secret?

>did anyone else buy house besides Mista?
Maria did, Doppio did, Luca is, Aia did, Vox did and Reimu did

>>102459834
>shu for his family
So, another member of Luxiem?

At the time when I watched Enna, she said that previous generations did not even come close to earning such amounts. And she did not complain about the lack of money only when she wanted to show that she could live without the support of her father.

>>102459933
>Niji scamming her own taxes
Did you mean Mika being retarded and not realizing that there are multiple kinds of taxes and that Nijisanji only did payroll taxes? Even she said it was because she didn't understand what she was doing

>>102459954
>lmao, Twisty? The one who was caught lying about Nijisanji forcing people to delete PLs and alts while she had three different accounts when she was in Niji? The girl who invites groomers to a secret discord , says how much she appreciates them for giving her money then calls them creeps in secret?

Just because she didn't delete it doesn't mean they didn't ask for it. She just ignored it.

>>102459954
>Maria did, Doppio did
Can you somehow confirm this?
I don't believe they could rent decent housing on their expected income.

>>102460049
>Says Nijisanji forces people to delete their personal accounts so they can't make money off them
>She has 3 different alternative accounts, probably even more. Other members all openly have alternate accounts too
>"Uhhh, they all chose to break the rules"
Retard
>Can you somehow confirm this?
Yeah. Watch streams. Maria was moving around Australia before fully moving to Japan. Doppio outright said he was moving into a house in Japan

>>102460137
>>"Uhhh, they all chose to break the rules"
Yes, that's how it works.
If one breaks the rules, then the others consider them optional.

There's no one to check it in Niji anyway.

>>102460137
>Yeah. Watch streams. Maria was moving around Australia before fully moving to Japan. Doppio outright said he was moving into a house in Japan
So did they buy a house there or just move into temporary housing?

>>102460194
You know that members have to show the recruiting team their channels in the application, right? Twisty still had her PL that she used to apply up, the contract says nothing about that either.

So according to Twisty, management forces people to delete their alt accounts and they somehow never find out about them despite one of the reasons they fired Zaion was because she was shit talking Kyo on her PL account and multiple people following and retweeting their own PLs with their Niji accounts. Makes sense

>>102460243
>So did they buy a house there or just move into temporary housing?
They moved. Maria outright said she was going to make a furniture building stream and Doppio said he'd be moving into his house soon

>>102455778
No, they do not get a debut budget. In fact, Lazulight (all 3 of them together) said they weren't even allowed to commission anything for their debuts. This is why Pomu made her own debut video, Finana only had a 30 second clip of her model wiggling, and Elira didn't have anything at all.

>>102460298
Zeta did the same, but it was risky and girls from holo Id also say they don't earn much.

>>102460823
I see some connection

Holo En = Lukiem at its peak. You can live luxuriously if you don't pay 80% tax.

Holo Id = The rest of Niji (except those who still bring in money, like Skarl and Aya). Modest salary by the standards of the civilized world.

Niji Id - barely enough for food or they are forced to have another job.

>>102460823
Maria never said she didn't earn much

>>102461181
Is there a chance that she earns more than Enna, who talks about it all the time?

>>102461181
Wasn't Maria fucking rich to begin with? She spams covers like they cost nothing

>>102436223 (OP)
there;s a difference of being ex-corpo due to the external factors and being ex-corpo couse you are a cunt

>>102461201
>Ennaschizo exposes himself
Disgusting

>>102453076
Left: Alien mixture - past life, Serafi, terminated by V&U and sent a massive invoice for "expenses"
Middle left: sayu.
Middle right: Squrmimi. Microcorp vtuber who got terminated, used corpo assets to do one last stream ranting about the company.
Right: Mogu. Previously Victoria Brightshield with Nijisanji. Graduated, went on a tearful rant about how the company is soul crushing and dared management to fire her (they didn't.)

>>102461250
You didn't answer the question.
What are the chances that she earns more than Enna?

>>102461353
NTA but zero. Nobody fucking watches Maria or her covers.

>>102461353
You know Enna also bought her own apartment in a country with a higher cost of living, right?

>>102448934
Hoy upvoted my Reddit!

>>102461423
I also know that she had a second job and released music with Diego.

>>102461376
It sucks to be Maria.

I mean, she took her name off the cover title when they forced her to take Zaion off and I don't think I heard anything bad about her during the Niji drama. Maybe she deserved it more than anyone.

>>102461615
Yeah, as far as I know, she and Ren seem to be typically pretty nice with no real yabs, but allegedly she slept with Ren while he was engaged (+Luca), which caused WolfyChu to cry and dump him, though who knows if Maria knew about it or not.
So there's only one potential offense, but since it involves cheating, it's kind of fucked.
It's hard to pretend it didn't happen, too, as Luca made a very telling voice tweet one morning waking Maria up with her being all ashamed and embarrassed and calling her things like "Good morning, sunshine."

>>102461784
Doesn't Wolfychu already have a long term boyfriend?

>>102461929 (me)
Never mind, not touching this rrat nest.

>>102462134
Yeah, it was pretty well known to be Ren's PL, which is why I'm so torn on him.

>>102436223 (OP)
Rip

Has any EN been unpersoned as hard as Sayu was?

>>102468123
oceane otoishi

>>102468123
>>102469522
both well deserved