In the case on NijiEN the pain is all self-inflicted, though

Elira

The Gigi of Niji

Its amazing how one talent can destroy an entire branch

>>102438691 (OP)
Yes, and for that, she is a hero. We have her to thank that talents are looking at their fat corporate bosses and saying "I don't need you!"

>>102438879
She's more than a hero, she's a union man!

>>102438866
>"talent"

>>102438691 (OP)
>cancel important event due to """covid"""
>hire toxic bitches and sexpests
>pander to Chinese fujos at the expense of every other audience
>spam merch for Elira while treating the most popular girls like shit
>fire talents for dumb reasons and self-report in the termination statement
>let other talents get away with breaching contract left and right
>nuke own reputation with retarded black stream and insane message to investors
>illegally show lawyer's letters to talents
>fuck up artist contracts and payments
yeah, all Selen

>>102439744
anon it's clearly a shitposter copying another thread with gigi on it.
I expect another one to show up soon with Elira on it or something. Maybe Riona if they're feeling spicy

>>102438748
fippybippy

>>102438691 (OP)
It's amazing how they could've just given her a graduation stream and she would've stayed quiet.
Yeah she might've made some subtle passive aggressive remarks, but it wouldn't have been that bad.

>>102441074
Hell, she would've stayed quiet if they gave her a silent goodbye like Ike/Kunai.

>>102441179
>>102441074
I know this opinion might get hated on, but with the benefit of hindsight, I am almost glad that Anycolor "hardened its heart" so to speak. By refusing the offramp Selen offered and forcing matters to ahead, Nijisanji fully exposed itself to the world as the vile black company it always was. No longer was it just simmering discontent in the background or chatter contained /here/. It reaped its just desserts.

Also, watching Dokibird do a sponsored neopets stream and sing "the last cup of coffee" in a 3rd concert was a total fort sumter moment that Anycolor, in all its wickedness, ironically made possible.

>>102441492
Yeah, absolutely. Doki and Mint wouldn't be who thtey are now without going through all of it.

I wish Sayu could've had a happier ending too, honestly. They really hurt her badly and unlike the other girls, she's still dealing with the consequences.

>>102438691 (OP)
Meh Luxiem was already in hard recline. Selen just grabbed the opportunity to jump ship and get a buff

>>102441547
Yeah, it's a shame about Sayu. I'll admit that lately I've found her some of her decisions to be a little off-putting, but that doesn't justify what she went through, and to the extent that she helped lay the foundation for NijiEN's reputation to ultimately implode, I think she changed the scene for the better.

>>102438691 (OP)
THEY ARE

>>102441778
If Selen's termination was Niji EN's Chernobyl, then Zaion's termination was their Ignalina

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignalina_Nuclear_Power_Plant#Incidents

>>102442295
Actually, Zayion was a prophet from the future who tried to warn people about an incoming apocalypse.
Elira also betrayed Selen in the lore.

>>102441778
the difference between Sayu and Doki is that Doki didn't let her bitterness about what happened completely consume her whereas Sayu is still living in the shadow of it even now. Anycolor could totally collapse, every single NijiEN banished into the 2view wastes or off the internet forever and Sayu would still be destroying herself feeling like she is the pariah who was rejected by Niji
in a way Sayu's case is far more tragic than Doki especially due to the fact that she was only there for a few months whereas Doki spent years in that place and her ending was far darker and nearly fatal - and yet Sayu has come out of it worse because her personality type makes it where she just can't let go of the damage done

>>102438691 (OP)
Selen didn't destroy the branch. Nijisanji destroyed themselves. Selen was just the lightning rod.

>>102441492
>>102441778
>>102442295
>>102443605
This was mentioned in the other bait thread but victim #1 usually gets the short end of the stick. This case doesn't seem like an exception

>>102438691 (OP)
Thats not elira tho

>>102438866
>>102438994
He pulled Playstation with Xbox, that's kind of a talent

>>102443605
Difference is one had the might of the community stand up for her and is now celebrated, while the other was abandoned and thrown to the wolves, desperately trying to claw back her slandered reputation.
Kinda leads to a different mindset about the whole thing where Doki could actually afford to move on.

>>102443605
Yeah, it's called "post-traumatic stress disorder"
She was fired, slandered, blacklisted, hard-doxxed, and received death threats. And of all the people in the vtuber community who interacted with her before she joined Niji, even if only to wish her well when she first graduated in 2022, nobody except Yuniiho would give her so much as the time of day after she was fired, and she was a pariah right until Selen's termination vindicated her. And even then, there are still people (mostly but not exclusively nijisisters) who view her as Satan's hemorrhoidal discharge and want her to fail, as well as the occasional idiot who shows up in her stream chat and goes out of their way to reopen her old wounds.

That trauma, plus her own brainworms from before she even started being a vtuber, are the reasons why she is the way she is.

>>102438691 (OP)
Anyone got a clip of the niji girls making fun of selen after she left?

>>102444191
I think Bao the fucking whale was among the ones who once acknowledged Sayu in 2022. Yeah, that ain't happening anymore.

>>102444191
>It's not that she's a genuinely terrible bitch. Nijisanji made her that way

You're a fucking retard

>>102438866
Still not fired
must be a very charming guy

>>102444728
What made her firing any better than Selen's termination?

>>102444728
>Pre niji: well connected, level headed, liked by everyone
>Post niji: erratic, desperate, pariah
hmmmm

>>102444905
She admitted to everything in her document while making excuses about it, broke multiple rules within a few weeks, strived to make herself as hateable as possible to the average person by saying shit like "I can see why she got raped" then shit talked a coworker on her PL before talking to him in private beforehand

>>102438748
What was Nijisanji thinking? To go all out petty. thinking that she was another Zaion? Give Selen credit for being the better man.
At least Cover knew not to get in Gura's way and let her release that "Ash Again" song.

>>102438691 (OP)
I think Pomu shot the final bullet

>>102444905
It didn't involve a black stream timed specifically to spite her and didn't invent as much bullshit to justify it or employ significant skinwalking.

>>102438691 (OP)

>>102444974
>Well connected
That means nothing
>Level headed
You're truly retarded. She has went on menhera rants about everything including her exes before
>Loved by everyone
Holy shit. What happened to Sincrocucks saying that there was no more Sincrocucks in the board anymore? They can't stop shitting up threads with pitybait now

>>102444905
Because she wasn't big enough to contest it. That's the only real reason.

It's quite sad and ironic considering she actually was the biggest chuuba they landed for xsoleil, and Xsoleil/Iluna were the numberfag gens.
>>102445012
You know we were around back then, right? Hell, both Vox and Enna have said far, far worse. Kotoka flat out told a rape joke to Riku. The reason she was fired was because she went over her high school manager to try to get something done, and everything else was fluff to fuck her career over.

>>102445098
speaking of erratic and desperate, I wonder if you're actually a sayu shill trying to promote her by making her antis seem absolutely batshit insane.

>>102438691 (OP)
Nijisanji is going through a rebirth, a lot of these posts are strategically designed to make sure they stay under water until Hololive prepares their next branch

>>102445049
She didn't want to be involved in this mess and only acknowledged it for a bit while sobbing in regrets after Selen fiasco. How is this a straw that broke a camel's back?

>>102445293
If Pomu had stayed, the branch wouldn't have suffered so much, not saying she intentionally did it

>>102445062
Actually two of Zaion's genmates, Kotoka and Hex, did release pre-recorded on-stream statements denouncing her as a person, but you do have a point. Even Armcha1r acknowledge the legitimacy of several of the bulletponts on Zaion's termination notice.

However, that does not justify having genmates denounce Zaion as a person, nor does it excuse Nijisanji's own behavior such as stealth suspensions.

>>102445639
It's kind of insane to think how much better off EVERYONE involved would be if Niji had just released a Yugo or Aster style one paragraph "We're terminating her contract, the end." statement instead of what they did.

>>102445192
When did Kotoka ever say that it was understandable that someone got raped? When was it never just a famous Japanese meme?

>>102445757
>My rape joke is okay but yours isn't because

>>102445757
Didn't Vox and Hex have entire streams that were simulated ASMR rape?

>>102445370
Now that's just a cope. We're all knew that she doesn't want to take charge of what essentially Elira's circle, out of fear that they're going to oust her the moment she did something that wasn't "Elira approved".
She realized that the power dynamics between her and Elira was already established since they debuted, and even when there are more people, she doesn't even try to change the status quo. She's just that kind of person.
Heck, even it took Matara to fully convince her to return, since her retirement plan originally is just to enjoy chika idols and hang out with holos (mainly Kiara) quietly behind-the-screen.

>>102446014
Tbe impression I got from what little she has said on the subject is that everyone respected Pomu enough to keep the mean girl clique shit out of places she could see it and just act like professionals around her, and she was the one who organized all the big branch projects. She couldn't have fixed the rot in the NijiEN corporate culture, but she could have kept holding the public face of it together at least a little longer if she wanted to. Maybe long enough to ride out the other drama, maybe not.
(and to be clear, not saying she should have, she absolutely did the right thing for her own wellbeing)

>>102444690
She's whore clan, no surprise there

>>102445098
Maybe it's just people who are reasonably logical that chose to side against seething sisters because it's the morally right thing to do
Just maybe

>>102445012
>>102445757
there is literally nothing wrong with making rape jokes you fucking weak moralfagging pussified bitch, fuck you and your entire gay and retarded faggoty premise and manner of talking about this whole thing.
None of you insipid hand-wringing fucks would last a single day on the internet even just a decade ago, it's so annoying we have to dance around with you weak stupid fucks and play by your faggoty little bitch rules at all nowadays and the way everyone talks about everything is so gay and retarded.

How about rape jokes are fucking hilarious especially when it involves kids too and also I don't give a single fuck that Zaion broke any rules for your gay little jap company or even if she broke fucking laws because I have zero respect for companies or their faggoty little moralfagging acolytes. Do a flip moralnigger.

>>102445757
>Hey I'm gonna shove this in you in my sex dungeon don't mind me teehee

>>102445012
You're right, this is far worse than harboring a known sexual predator
Kinda like what the White House is doing actually

>>102445012
She would have gotten way with all that if she was male

>>102446410
Away*

>>102446410
It's funny because you're right

>>102445757
Reminder that management didn't give a shit about her rape joke until Nijisisters made a fuss about it and they saw the opportunity to weaponize that

>>102446291
Wait didn't Nijisisters go around and tell people to stop sharing that screenshot because it would put their dear Hex in danger?

>>102446540
>>102446829
Time and time again Niji have shown that female livers are second class citizens and mere accessories to males. When it comes to characteristics of shitty agencies, Niji undoubtedly has the whole nine yards - favoritism, nepotism, double standards, exploitation, harassment, along with the worst and most toxic subhumans you can barely call a fanbase
Frankly if you're a woman and you decide to join Niji after seeing what happened to Selen and Zaion, you're an absolute retard who deserves everything that happens to you

>>102448369
>Niji have shown that female livers are second class citizens
Unless you're Elira

>>102438748
Yeah its this. Selen leaving and shit posters here wasn't enough to do the damage. It was them sabotaging themselves and their fan base trying to gas light everyone else in response.

>>102445012
Meanwhile Aster is sex pesting all the girls in the back ground and Luca had his sights on Victoria.

The only thing I regret about Selenapocalypse (aside from people getting hurt to make it happen) is the sheer number of dramafaggots who want everything to be Selen 2.0 and endlessly shit up the catalogue. You can have some chuuba talk about how she couldn't afford a luxury item and then 20 threads are made talking about the downfall of a corpo or something equally retarded.
Conveniently, Phase is never treated like that on this board. Wonder why.

>>102445370
Yeah Eliras damage control receptionist how dare she leave the clique to itself. These people imploded because they aren't adults who resolve problems properly. Nuke their own fucking content and taking sides to say its ok. Its not btw

>>102441492
>Also, watching Dokibird do a sponsored neopets stream and sing "the last cup of coffee" in a 3rd concert was a total fort sumter moment

Uh, anon... did you mean "Raising the flag back OVER Ft. Sumter moment"? Because that's the ONLY way this analogy makes sense.

>>102446291
>>102446829
It's funnier when you discover that some of the sisters are now harassing him just because he had a crash out the other day

>>102438691 (OP)
Damn you selen, why did you make Aster a rapist, Vox a seething asshole, Luca a lying creep actively scamming his fans, Uki a deranged racist, Hex and Ike schizos etc, you did all this

>>102449257
What happened? Please tell me he decided to grow a conscience.

Why did janny delete the threads that were about holos but not this one?

>>102448740
half of all deflections on this board are to Phase. what?

>>102453111
because this one is actually true

>>102438691 (OP)
>ruins online vtuber discussion because she wants pity points.

>>102438748

>>102438980

>>102438691 (OP)
>implying NijiEN wasnt already a dead shithole before her
The term "1finana" was coined before the selen incident

>>102438748
fpbp