this is a good time for a reminder to focus on yourself king

I need to lose weight, but food tastes too good and exercise makes me fucking miserable

but i must emotionally attach myself to this pixelated woman or i will perish

Thanks friend, you are truly a friend

I can't take this shit anymore, OP. What they fuck kind of existence does one lead if his own fantasies also betray him?

>>102501147
Have you considered embracing a vectorized woman instead?

>>102501097
a salad and chinken breast with simple salt and pepper will start to taste good once your sugar intake baseline is lower. could take maybe a week.
>exercise feels bad
you must push through it for a couple week. proper form, do not cheat and never miss schedule you will see the progress and you will grind that shit like a korean mmo

>>102501147
I'm not telling you to stop attach to them but treat them for what they are, whores.

what are some good hobbies bros

>>102499852 (OP)
>Improve yourself
Fuck off and die doob.

It feels like all of vtubing has been in freefall for the last month or so. Slowly but consistently, revelation after revelation; culminating in this night of tears and calamity.

>>102499852 (OP)
this.
Take care of yourself, don't consume content that preys on your misery

>>102501147
The best way to approach Vtubers is to treat them like cumrags, Anon.
The Do's:
>Listen to their streams
>Enjoy their streams
>Masturbate to their porn every now and then
The Don'ts:
>Give them money
>Develop an emotional attachment
>Become one of their discord mods

>>102502989
- BBQ
- Firearms
- Rucking
- Judo
- Gunpla
- Painting minies

to name just a few

/fit/ is the only way to prevent losing yourself kings
Get /fit/, make money, fuck bitches

>>102503289
I don't want to fuck bitches, I just want to listen to her again.

>>102502401
your fantasies didn't betray you anon. It was never yours. they created these illusions to prey on you. you should never care for the ones who broke your trust. you are the only one that matter in this NPC world

>>102499852 (OP)
as a poorfag, last year i finally bought a good PC and last month i bought Elden ring, everyone already moved on from the game but im happy to finally play it.
Don't waste your money on womens that aren't your girlfriends, sisters or mothers

>>102501097
Not the best way of regulating eating behavior, but the more you exercise, the more tasty food you get to eat while losing weight.

Cutting down on sugar and increasing your protein and fat intake will also help a lot with feeling less hungry.

>>102501147
get visible abs and bench 3 plates, and the e-whores will have no power over you.

Some will actually hop on your dick at Offkai

>>102499852 (OP)
I fear that when I decide to truly commit, I'll suddenly fall terminally ill or become comatose/braided due to getting sideswiped by a drunk/asian woman driver

>>102503450
>girlfriends, sisters or mothers
I need to find all three in one

>>102503450
>i bought Elden ring, everyone already moved on from the game
eh you missed nothing, from a multiplayer perspective, elden ring is the worst in the series

how do i stay focused on something for more than two days in a row
t. coasted on life on the "talented kid" route and now im 30

>>102503052
the truth is vtuber, especially gfe-lite and cgdct is short life. It's a enjoy while it lasts type of deal. It's bound to happen. sure one will announce a black bf but the new one, straving enough for simp bucks will pop out more.

>>102504258
You don't have to, just enjoy yourself, as long as you are, your winning

>>102503450
I'm glad you enjoyed it, anon. finished the base game an hour ago, myself. I had fun but It's kinda shit ngl.

>>102501147
Stop the self-deprecation bullshit and get a real hobby.

>>102499852 (OP)
>focus on yourself king
nigger I dropped out of highschool 18 years ago and have been a NEET ever since and am finally feeling the consequences of that action realizing my life ended by my own decision and choices 5-10 years ago and is 100% over now that I'm legitimately an old man

whose life is literally 50% over purely from the perspective of raw numbers and given entirely optimal situations, ignoring the fact I'll have to cash my own check super prematurely, maybe in the next 2-5 years

I'm not a king, I'm a jester for an empty court

>>102504977
>I'm legitimately an old man
how old r u

>>102504977
Never too late, even if you feel behind. Give up now, and you've guaranteed yourself to be in the same place 10 years from now. Yes, if you start up a new pursuit now, you'll probably be shit at it for the near future. But you can be decent at it in 10 years, which is much better than not learning it at all. Either way, time will still continue to pass. You still have another half of your life to live. Don't give up on it yet.

>>102499852 (OP)
Just canceled all of my memberships. putting those 7 dollars into buying more alcohol.

>>102499852 (OP)
wow if only some green vtuber would tell you this exact same thing on stream years ago.

>>102505719
If people didn’t get the hint when that other green vtuber’s marriage was exposed, they were never going to understand.

>>102504977
sometimes, someone just needs somebody to tell them that everything is gonna be okay.

Every time I focus on myself, everyone tells me I shouldn't be shutting myself in my room.

>>102501147
Honestly it's probably for the best to not get too attached to not just vtubers but any kind of celeb in general.

>>102505869
I ask you to focus on yourself, not to pay attention to mere distractions

>>102506063
But myself is the distraction.

>>102501097
Start with small things. If you seriously need to lose weight then you don't need major changes immediately. Cutting out a little sugar and doing a little more walking can help. And from there the momentum of success can help. Good luck out there, anon.

>>102505648
holy fucking based and same

Drink water and milk regularly.
I suggest ginger tea to assist with metabolism and help with starting your weight loss journey. One cup a day.
Start working on your flexibility and stretch every day, full body. Won't take but ten minutes, at most.
Knee-ups, star jumps (that's jumping jacks to others) can light cardio are the best for weight loss.
Use moisturiser and sunscreen, keep yourself looking good.

>>102502989
Cooking
Fencing
Knife throwing
Camping
Pick literally any sport and participate.
Art
Figure collecting.
Hiking
Driving
Ghost Hunting (I live in Bongland, lots of haunted places and groups that do both Urban Exploration and ghost hunting shit).

screw this. let's drink

>>102502989
ideally something social

>>102504258
You were never talented. You were just slightly above average where the bar was incredible low.
Get over yourself and accept who you are.

>>102502989
Get into something physical (sport/fitness/)
Get into something social (board games/tabletop/TCGs)
Get into something personal (reading/films/painting/art)
Don't put your eggs into one basket

BASED thread

Thanks everyone, I really needed this.

>>102502989
there are none, they're mostly a meme. just b urself and confident bro

You can focus on yourselves all you like Naplings but you still lost out on your chance. She was on the market and you blew it HAHAHA

>>102509891
It was never about wanting to score you fuckwad. FUCK YOU

>>102504258
get tested for ADHD
I got diagnosed at an older age than you

>>102499852 (OP)
NOOO I MUST DONATE FIVE DOLLARS
FUCK YOU AME

>>102504258
>>102510201
This one makes a big difference if you think it applies to you. Even if you can't get formally tested, you can look up ADHD coping strategies and see if they work better for you.

>>102510121
It was about loving her, something another man gets to do

Not gonna get into whole backstory but the past week has just been a conga line of kicks to the dick. Nimi herself getting married doesn't bother me, not a napling. It's just reminded me how fucking alone I am. A lot of people I
34, not a khv but I've been basically single my entire life because getting a gf/partner just seems like it's inviting disaster and I've been a front row witness to people I care about getting ruined by breakups and fights and mistrust and just awful shit that's had people in tears. How could any of this seem like a good idea? I just cannot trust people to get that close.
What do you MEAN my heart has to break a few times before it knows how to truly bear? What do you MEAN I have to suffer before I can love? I try not to demoralise myself but literally everything I hear about people's lives, the world around me and the future ahead just sounds like misery. I don't have any "it is what it is" left in me. I fucking hate it bro I wanna do better but the world offers no incentive. I just worked the entire weekend and it was incredibly busy, we as a team busted our asses then we do a 12 hour shift monday and the boss puts us all up for a performance review and thinks we're doing a shit job, but I keep getting ghosted from my other applications and no one wants to hire a single guy in his 30s.
I'm so sick of all my years of hard work and perserverance and looking on the bright side amounting to sweet fuck all. I hate this trauma I've inherited from my childhood, I hate my mistrust of people getting too close, I just fucking hate it bro I can't just "lock in" I can't keep burying my head in the sand and pretend everything'll be alright if I just try harder all it does is tire me out more. I'm so fucking tired. I'm so fucking tired.

>>102499852 (OP)
The news about Nimi actually gave me a kick in the ass. Vtubing becomes a trap if you let it, it gives the illusion of permeanence and stability; they do not change, so neither do you need to. But seeing them still being human at the end of the day with the same desires as you, well, that snaps you out of the trance. Time waits for no man. I'm not a total fucking neet either. I'm educated and know what I want to do. I'm just an introvert academic who prefers to read and write on my own. This has however led to gaining weight recently and essentially minimizing social interaction beyond the minimally necessary. Fuck it. I'm hopping back on the grind, I want to do too many things, see too many places. I want to have kids and live to see my grandkids. There's no future in my current course, it's more like a drawn-out suicide, a waste of a life.

BASED THREAD

I'm ok now, it's out of my system just had to put thoughts to words for a bit. Got some rest days gonna do my swimming and sauna, play some vidya. Visit some family.

You should've listen. She warned you!

>>102503175
this is the way
and if you just want 1-to-1 conversations, just configure your chat AI to be GFE
grok is the least censored from the other options

>>102499852 (OP)
I figured this out half a decade ago. Thank god I did rather than becoming a loser weeb.

>>102512274
local llms or bust. don't share your wife with musk

>>102512405
this doesn't work if you're a poorfag with a potato PC that will struggle with local llm though

>>102502989
Gardening is a good one, im nursing a small pumpkin patch.

>>102512274
No, I fucking hate AI.
I want someone real

>>102512853
Then why are you ere, brother?
Go, find the woman of your dreams and be her dream man!

>>102499852 (OP)
Yup, this is just the way it is with women, it'll always end in tragedy. Once my oshi dies or cucks me, I think I'll just move on, I've had enough of women both on and offline, at least in the past men were allowed to die with honour like the guys fighting the Bolsheviks in 1920.

>>102512918
I can't I have crippling trust issues.

>>102512853
you've been using your gpu for frivolous bullshit entertainment for years and never thought about where the power for that one comes from.

>>102512853
> real
> vtuber

you gotta make up your mind

>>102513022
That's okay, learning to trust isn't easy.
Don't test it and be honest, trust is hard but you can go slow.

>>102501097
Only eating beef and eggs did it for me. Getting stronger is fun for me now, but the only exercise you really need is walking.
>t. former fatty 290 -> 180

wholesome thread

>>102513129
>/vt/ has better /fit/ threads than /fit/
fucking how

>>102513189
idk but im glad because a lot of /vt/ards including me needs self-improvement threads so that's nice

>>102513104
I've had trust broken before. Everything just seems so fucking hard these days. Like I have to invite more suffering or else I will....suffer? Who rigged this shit. I appreciate the peptalk and I know what lies before me I'm just looking at and its like fucking hell why was I put on this planet again

>>102513234
I hear that, trusting feels like hell.
I remember a time where the only thing I could trust about people is that they'd always let me down.
But that's why honesty is so important, honest people will see that and be drawn to it. Water finds its own level, always and you can find people worth putting some faith and trust in. It just won't be easy and take some time.

Most people still desire and try to be good and worthy.

Are neets finally realizing their little e-girl streamer was actually just a modern day stripper, renting her self out for to milk money from sad and depressed men by acting all cute and “nerdy” even tho they can’t play video games for shit.

I know the world is tough for young men right now and I know you just want to give it all up but try your best king. If you do then YOU might be the one to marry a Vtuber but it’s definitely not by watching them 24/7 and donating all your inheritance away.

>>102502989
playing an instrument is one of the most rewarding and fun imo. and if you're somewhat social you can play with others, although i never got to that part. i play the bass.

>>102513234
I dunno I don't think I can really help but I've found that things began to make sense when I realised that I'm just playing a part in this nightmare shithole realm and that I should stick to my principles even to the death.
>>102513381
Yeah what this guy said. Be true to yourself, find your inner strength and keep people who aren't similar to you at arm's length. This is actually why I don't want to exercise like everyone recommends, I don't enjoy it, I don't think it did anything good for me (except fuck up my wrist) and it isn't who I am. I'll be fit when I return to the village and cultivate a powerful peasant's physique through physical work but for now I'll remain a fucking nerd. My point is, you have a path set down for you and if you can boldly walk it with chin held high, world be damned, you'll be way happier.

>>102511660
>an introvert academic who prefers to read and write on my own
>minimizing social interaction beyond the minimally necessary
Realest shit I ever read

True. Fuck giving random women shit tons of money to fill the hole in your life. Do better for yourself.

>>102513442
>they can’t play video games for shit
In hindsight I do take some joy from the fact that Nimi meme-builded her way through Elden Ring and then dropped the game once seeing you can't use that build on Malenia

>>102513820
I mean you technically can use the build on Malenia, but you just have to not suck and mix in some other spells lol.

>>102502989
i took up this "create society from scratch" project where I learned how to make pottery from clay, create fire using two stones, create a bow drill, and even smelted a really shitty iron tool from some ironsand. it was healing to be out in nature and feel useful for once in my life, creating things with my own bare hands.

>>102499852 (OP)
I stopped watching vtubers a while ago. I pay for a gym subscription and I go twice a week (soon to be 3 times a week, trying to find a free day)
I'm also eating better and trying to sleep better as well. I also started watching CGDCT and yuri anime once again.
It's not the best, but it's a dramatic improvement from last year when I watched vtubers every day, even though I didn't enjoy them anymore. Today was a good reminder for what actually matters.

>>102513966
>I stopped watching vtubers a while ago.
maybe I'm different from you guys but I watch maybe one vtuber whenever they do come on. Do you guys watch like 50 of them and have one on constantly or something?

>>102513730
This. Don't put your affections on these things that just want you for your wallet. Save absolute exceptions, you will never be important to anyone in there. Likewise, you will never be important to anyone online. Focus on yourself, less so a vtuber who only wants your attention and love to perform alchemy and turn it into money.

>>102513234
The issue with closing yourself off to avoid that feeling of your trust being broken means you isolate yourself from everyone around you and build a wall that might let you connect slightly but it means you'll never really feel connected. Also, as dumb as this sounds, just go watch eva through its entirety, including end and the redos.
If you haven't, Eva original is a story about giving up on reality and making your own substitute, end of eva is about accepting reality and the pains it brings but finding happiness, and the rebuilds end up being about passing on your legacy and positive attributes to your children (minus the weird final scene).

>>102499852 (OP)

>>102514053
The problem with vtubing (and sometimes watching streamers in general) is that it's a very isolating experience. No one wants to hear about how your larping anime girl totally laughed about a stupid thing happening whereas even doing something like watching anime gives you a discussion point to jump off of with friends. I've noticed over the last 4 years as I watch more and more, I've had less and less to connect with all my friends and have only recently started trying to break myself of the habbit of coming home and turning on a stream. It's not bad as an occasional thing, but having it be your everything when you're alone turns you into an incredibly boring person to talk to. Add in that the same people watching all the streams have a higher chance of throwing a bunch of money at a talent, and it's really depressing looking from the outside in at how much energy, time, and attention gets wasted on something that's just supposed to be casual fun on the side when you're bored.

>actively watching vtubers
>fat and unfit af
>all my oshis started dropping like flies
>stopped giving a shit about vtubers altogether
>started improving myself unironically
>from 10k steps to actually running 5km a day
>bought some dumbbells and slowly but surely feel my body build muscle and shit
>started getting compliments lately, "anon you're looking good" and shit
Fuck this hobby, once I'm done unfucking my finances for being a stupid fucking retard I'll get myself a gym membership and find me self a real maiden

>>102514023
I used to watch nearly all of them during COVID and the Kizuna days. But the vtuber world was very different back then compared to now. It's changed and I've changed. It's just not for me anymore. And that's okay.

Good thread

>>102514298
>The problem with vtubing (and sometimes watching streamers in general) is that it's a very isolating experience. No one wants to hear about how your larping anime girl
Digging myself out of this hole right now. Learning a second language, game dev, and Zen(ish) shit. Not a ton of social value there aside from the language, but it's something.

I'm just watching vtubers to live the distant fantasy of seeing a woman with interests similar to mine. What's the point of doing all the self improvement if the only woman I see are only interested in netflixslop, sports and festivals?

>>102513730
The last time I gave a vtuber money, all she did was give a half assed "let's gooo" and immediately moved onto the next dono and ignored 80% of the message.
At that point, I realized I'm wasting my money and my life.

>>102514907
It's crazy because even going to something like the world tour, talking to mutual fans made me realize even some of the hyper obsessed really don't even talk that much about them in person either. Other than online chatter in designated places, they were just kinda chatting about life and other hibbies for the most part. It's fine to have it as one piece of the puzzle, but watching multiple girls will do nothing but eat into your personal time and make you uninteresting to talk to.

>>102514992
Don't date anyone below the age of 25.
You don't have to have all the same interests as her, but at least show an interest in her interests and don't be afraid to share yours with her.
Life is busier than ever, online dating is a legitimate option albeit it one with many, many pitfalls.
If you're somebody that's a little more introverted you can still go meet people by joining a dance class.
Anxiety is a bitch but you can gain confidence by dressing how you like and smelling good.

Good luck out there bros. I don't know if you'll ever achieve whatever dream you got but at least you got one and you try. Remember, they're just supposed to be entertainment. I'm gonna be trying out there too

>>102501097
Drink a ton of water after every meal. Know that those food cravings will disappear after eating just a bit and waiting, and that the pride of sticking to your diet lasts far longer than the pleasure of eating a shitty food.

>>102514298
>The problem with vtubing (and sometimes watching streamers in general) is that it's a very isolating
Yeah I think this can seriously extend to even past vtubing. I've been watching streamers and vtubers for years but unless it's a big event it's incredibly weird to me to actively engage and constantly watch the streamer? I've always been used to browsing the web anonymously like right now. So to actively engage chat with a fast or slow chat isn't something I like. Streams have always been background noise for the most part. I think diverting lots of time, money, and resources to maybe even get the streamers attention even a little is incredibly weird. I'm not shitting on those who do but it's nice to think about why we even like this hobby? It's very insular hobby and have stopped watching pretty much all vtubers actively for years now or visiting/vt/ unless something like Vshoujo imploding. Anyway wish you guys the best here

>>102515490
>Remember, they're just supposed to be entertainment.
It's too bad not a lot of them are entertaining either.

>>102501097
I hate exercising too but I found Enduro biking fun as fuck so, try a physically demanding hobby maybe?

>>102499852 (OP)
Honestly yeah. I think it finally dawned on me that the hobby I fell in love with doesn't exist anymore. There's nothing left except for me and that's how it always is. We only have ourselves. I'll start taking care of myself and building myself up.

So what's the plan for today? I just woke up early, going for a walk and maybe a jog while listening to an audiobook. I tried to get back into learning Japanese, but fell off again, so I'm gonna start my Anki deck again today. I want to start lifting again today, but I don't have access to a gym currently. So I'm just going to do some body weight exercises today.
Hope you guys have a good day. If not, just know it will get better.

>>102517256
Out of curiosity, what do you think the hobby you fell in love with was and what changed? If you're talking the corpo circle of vtubers, they've always been after your money, day in and day out.

>>102517290
Salad and fish lunch.
50 push-ups
50 sit-ups
5 minute planks
32 dead bugs
50 squats
30 step-lunges.
35 hip bridges
6 minutes hamstring stretch.

Then continue learning Python.
Gonna go for a job in cyber security.

>>102517323
>corpo circle
>he doesnt know

>>102517872
lol AI is going to take your job mate

Seriously based thread. Good luck on your self improvement journey anons!

>>102514299
real and true. i don't blame vtubers, but sometimes it does feel like they're holding you back. especially the ones who'll guilt trip you for not showing up to streams and stuff like that. i feel like i've lost the past 5 years of my life and gained nothing from it, not even any positive memories necessarily since anything positive actually happened to them and i was just there living vicariously through them. i think it's time for a new era

>>102518284
Sure, but even two years at £60K give me a good whack to throw myself into university and do something more professional or give me access to more.
Even the entry level helps me escape the poverty trap I'm currently in, going for £27,000 to £34,000 puts me in range for getting out of Manchester.

>>102519743
Oh fuck you're in br*tain. I'm so sorry.

>>102499852 (OP)
Damn right king get that money

>>102520032
One day anon, my country will be worth living in again.
It'll be beautiful, as it always should've been.
Until then I'll continue on my way, watch use closely anon. Learn from our mistakes so you don't have to make them yourself.

I dont even want sex anymore
I just wanna be held and be told the shit I go through is appreciated and it'll be okay in the end.
I wanna feel warm. I wanna remember what butterflies feel like. I want someone to look at bIue sky and green treeline and smile with .e I wanna get the hype people seem to ride when they talk about love. I wanna draw strength from someone that isnt me or my financial obligations.
There has to be something out there that makes this all worth it

>>102520225
Welcome to being a romantic. It's usually shit because nothing is perfect and love ends up being a hard, messy endevour that requires a lot of effort, time, and sacrifice to actually make work properly.

>>102519743
I like your optimism, I'm in the north-west as well and earn £45k currently. It's enough to pay my mortgage etc as a single person, while still leaving me a chunk of disposable income, which is enough for me. Never going to fall for the allure of L*ndon for a shot at higher wages.
Good luck with everything anon!

>>102520197
>One day anon, my country will be worth living in again.
Not with Labour, it won't.
Tax rises coming this Autumn by the way.

>>102521022
Won't with any current party, Labour, Tory, Lib-Dems or any other.
They're all cut from the same cloth of neo-lib bullshit an continue to drain us all. Doesn't help that Sir Child Starver is such a massive pussy.

>>102499852 (OP)
Started college now at 25 and found The Odin Project during this vacation period. Barely watched any streams ever since. Just Karaokes playing on the side.

We all gonna make it bro!

>>102520759
If I give up my optimism I have nothing, I am so determined to make something of myself I take more night shifts so I can study at work too.
I hate that Manchester is becoming London two and with every bone in my body I know I need to get out of here before I spend another year working C.C.T.V. for less than it takes to live.

If nothing else, I know I'll make it as long as I don't stall out.
Also fuck London proper, the money you make goes just as quickly because everything down south costs way more. If London really is going to sink, it can't happen soon enough.

Found out about it just as I was celebrating my birthday with a few family members, it was so hard faking a smile all day. I know I'm supposed to be happy for her, but I don't know, man, I've never felt this heart broken in a very long while. Fuck. I'm slowly losing trust in watching vtubers.

>>102501097
If exercise is making you miserable then you doing it wrong. All the time I exercised myself was a great time I had. The problem I have is extremely laziness.

>>102499852 (OP)
I've been doing that for a while now. I guess I chose a good time for it.

>>102520225
It's all about living the message. Even if the world seems cold, dark, and unforgiving, it's about lighting the fires in our hearts and living in the world not as it appears to us, but as for what we wish it to be. To attract love you must cultivate love.

>>102521505
I'm from London and I went to Manchester a month ago. It's literally just London. In fact, it might be worse. Not only is it just as expensive but it's so fucking pretentious. Nearly everyone was rude or "too nice". The kind of nice where you can tell they don't like you but they're gonna pretend to be your best friend anyway. Nearly everyone was highly up their own ass. People shit on London but i'd rather be here than whatever fucking hellhole that was.

>>102514299
Based.

>>102522148
If them hiding their personal life is something thay really hits you, I'm saying this in the nicest way possible, you have to quit watching streamers in general. In most cases what they're presenting is what they think will sell to whatever audience they've currated. It's all about money, even if they can genuinely have fun while doing it.

>>102499852 (OP)
Best thread on /vt/ right now.

>>102520363
I know man, it sounds childish and naive but fuck I got emotions and shit and a vague sense of hope amidst the constant media peddle of war and greed that it's not all that ugly.

I won't stop watching vtubers because of everything that happened, but from now on every time I get to urge to send a superchat or gift membership specially if it's a really big one, I'll transfer that money to a savings account instead. Maybe I can finally buy that motorcycle I always wanted. What do you guys think?

>>102522857
I believe in you man. Imagine the kind of message you could send with that. A pic of your bike captioned like "Me and the motorbike I got from not spending money on superchats"
That would impress em a lot more tell you that much. Lots of people have money. Not a lot of em control it

>>102499852 (OP)
I've been mostly off the ride for some time now, only watching couple streams a week at most. But I still can't really focus on myself. Vtubers weren't the problem.

>do all the self improvement shit like working out, getting a good job, etc
>start forcing myself out to meet people
>normie activities/events are miserable for my spergy ass
>anything related to things I actually am interested in are 90%+ guys (and the few women are either with their bf or are lesbians)
>don't have any issues making friends and always havw people to do things with
>still can't find a girlfriend since single nerdy women who aren't NEETs or otherwise worthless are practically nonexistent past college age and normie women get icked out by theautismtic interests
Life is better now than it was when I was younger, but I'm really scared to hit 30 (or older) and either need to accept spending my life unloved or either giving up on nearly everything I like to find a woman who'll like some fake version of me or dealing with someone I don't particularly like just to have some sort of relationship

>>102522857
Smart way to save for something you'll enioy much more than a tiny dopamine hit from some woman reading your name and laughing/talking directly to you for a minute.

>>102522857
That's a good idea, it will show you how much money you were spending on such things and might be the kick up the butt you needed to either spend less or stop spending all together. It also gives you a tangible goal to aim for.

>>102523276
I have a secret for you, youngling. When you reach the ye olde age of 30, you develop an ability that will help you with those feelings...
You stop giving a fuck

>>102523276
34 here.
You dont stop worrying but you find what you do end up worrying about is the shit that really matters.
Seeing your mother's first gray hairs drops it down on you like a hammer.

>>102504258
Mediocrity is underrated
Most things are boring
You dont have to be special to make it

>>102508658
That's what it means to be talented. "Naturally better than you", just cause he isn't a modern Newton doesn't mean he isn't talented.
>>102504258
Just have fun with it. Do what you want, and what you feel you ought to. Forget the word "should". Do things for the sake of doing them, not the result of doing them.

>>102523420
I don't wanna turn into the sad olympics, but seeing my mom at 75 have 24/7 oxygen and being told she has 5 years (3 years ago) max to live, watching her get more and more tired by the week that I visit my parents is really fucking scary.
>>102523276
You'll learn that you'll have to bend a bit as the one who has more free time, that you need to make time in your schedule when your friends with families have time or things will widdle away. Past that, there is some hope, I got on dates here and there even if nothing every really takes off.

>>102523417
>>102523420
I'm in my late 20's now. It's less that 30 is old than seeing my high school friends & all my younger family members getting married as well as being the only person in my department at work who isn't married & doesn't have kids. Most of my friends are 24-27, how long until they get married/have kids and don't have time for hobbies or anything? I also already feel old talking to zoomers in their late teens/early 20s, I know I will feel even worse in 5-10 years talking to late zoomers/gen alpha.

>>102524130
I kinda answered it here >>102524130
The onus kinda goes on you to try and make scheduling work. A good chunk of my friends are married and have multiple kids but we still find time to hang out a few times a month, and some of them manage to sneak in an hour a few times a week to play games (outside of weekends which are free reign after 10 or 11pm).

>>102519743
>manchester
If you ever think youre hungry, ask yourself. Would I get a cup of corn from market street.

>>102502989
I just started watching anime again
The foodcourt one's kinda funny

>>102499852 (OP)
A lesson learned.

Maybe vtubing is a bad thing after all

>>102527792
It's neither good or bad, it's all about how you approach consumption.

>>102522148
I think it's for the best honestly if you're that invested into a streamer. At the end of the day you're not friends nor will they ever care about you. I'm not even going to call you a loser for feeling upset but the whole hobby is fake and gay. I hope you invest into yourself and genuinely have a happy birthday man, your family cares about you.
>>102523276
I'm reaching 30 in a couple of years too and had the same fears. I care less about love and more about myself which helps me cope. I seriously found out what I wanted out of life in my late 20's. I can't offer you any empty platitudes or words but lots of people doesn't have it figured out it's okay.

>>102530083
>Fake and gay
There's nothing wrong with having fun with it, but overinvesting emotions, time, or money is retarded.

>>102499852 (OP)
I lost more than 50Kgs, and I'm still going.
Losing weight is really not that hard, but I was lucky I actually like salad and broccoli.

>>102532171
how long did it take you to lose that weight, bro? I started my weight loss like at the beginning of the year and so far I only lost 15 kgs

>>102532470
1 year and 5 months.

>>102530083
Having no real goals in life is definitely part of the reason I feel so bad about being forever single. I keep doing things despite that because it's objectively better than doing nothing, but I can't help but wonder if I'm fucking things up. At least now I feel like being alone is better than being in a relationship that doesn't make me happy, but I have no clue if in 5-10 years I'll be regretting spending all my time at work, in grad school, doing activities I hate that are beneficial (like lifting or most other forms of exercising), or doing weeb related hobbies (studying Japanese, watching anime/chuubas, going to concerts for Japanese bands or visiting the country, etc) when I should have just forced myself to go to some normie thing like salsa dancing or whatever the new meme way to meet single women is & potentially found something.

bump

>>102523276
The thing which got me wasn't even anything to do with girlfriends, it was how little most people care about long term friendship. All of the friends I've ever made were people who just wanted someone to hang around with when it was convenient and when it became inconvenient, they'd happily cut me off without a second thought. On top of that, I was always the one who had to initiate absolutely everything, if I didn't reach out to them regularly to do things they'd ignore me the entire time. Eventually I just got sick of it and stopped bothering.

>>102533360
Adult friendships can be an uphill struggle, between finding time to hang out and managing other relationships.
It can get pretty lonely out here, but there are things you can do to start making connections again.

Sports gyms.
Reading clubs.
TTRPG's.
Dance classes.
Just make time and be positive and approachable.

get a gym membership and go on a 200-300 calorie surplus, i don't care if you're skinnyfat, you need muscle and you can cut after. This will transform the way people treat you both men and women. Start doing skincare and grow your hair out a bit to see if it suits you. Get non shit glasses that suit your face if you need them. 10 minutes of sun with spf applied everyday is enough vitamin d. Finally just eat non processed foods with loads of protein and greens and avoid sodium/sugar as much as possible. It's not hard to improve yourself if you've been stuck watching chuubas and rotting away inside

>>102512853
No. Women need to stop with the bf/husband yabs and the only way is to replace them with AI
>pic
thats cool, reminds me of the game "rain world" where the rain cycle is because of the massive amount of water needed to cool the local AI super computers that are the size of skyscrapers

>>102501097
eat below your maintenance calories, anon. limit junk food to one day a week. make your own meals. just do cardio if you don't want to lift weights, too. it'll all accumulate if you stick to this life style. slowly but surely you'll get to your ideal weight, anon.

>>102499852 (OP)
I'm try to learn Japanese, been studying every day for several hours for a month. I'm still barely N5 level. Is there a ceiling on language skills for stupid people?

>>102501097
I stopped exercising and eating healthy for like 5 years, then recently I started eating way more veggies and exercising for 30 minutes, then 15 minutes during my lunch/break at work watching YouTube workout videos
I have lost 22 pounds in like 2-3 months
you can do it

I'm in my mid 20's and I want to start working out again. I stopped after a deadlift injury when I was 20 and I never picked up the pace again.

Any of you have a a calisthenics program?

>>102499852 (OP)
Since I started watching my oshi last October, I've
>lost 50 pounds, down to my lowest weight ever, visible abs
>working out consistently
>cooking for myself most nights (legitimately proud of this one)
>sleeping 7-8 hours
>saved from deep depression/grief over friend's suicide
>sense of humor massively upgraded
>socialization through the roof
>had multiple "you look good," "you're in such a good mood lately," etc. conversations with coworkers.

So if vtubing's been bad for you, you might be watching the wrong vtuber.

>>102532171
What do you put in your salads? I've been wanting to start eating those but I know lettuce itself doesn't have much nutrition.

>>102499852 (OP)
What if we already oshi ourselves?

>>102499852 (OP)
oh I'm focusing alright

>>102535783
A pinch of salt, two teanspoons of oil, a bit of vinegar.

>>102536045
I meant what vegetables and protein, if any.

>>102532889
That sounds like a pretty fulfilling life to me. You're picking up new skills and creating meaningful life experiences based on your interests. Why not make long-term goals based on your hobbies? Besides, wouldn't forcing the normie activities just lead to meeting people who you won't be compatible with, anyway? Whenever I've done that, it feels like I can never relax because I'm putting on a front.

>>102536140
Mostly iceberg lettuce, no protein.

>>102536140
uhm, uhmmmmmm, minced bacon and caesar dressing. chickbreast,cabbage,lettuce and tomato. vinegar and lemon juice for dressing is kino

I don't know if I'm insane because I have no ability to care about reality whatsoever. I'm not even joking, I will cry and cheer and get emotional for the dumbest reasons when it comes to fiction and anything that blurs the lines of reality. Actual real life, I simply don't feel anything. Existence itself is just a job, while escapism is the play.

>>102535672
Who

>>102534180
>Finally just eat non processed foods with loads of protein
This is the only thing i'm struggling with because EVERYTHING is processed around here. It doesn't have the American unhealthy shit in it but it's still not great.

>>102536819
>Why not make long-term goals based on your hobbies?
I hate to say I missed the boat on it, but it's at least what it feels like. I'm stuck with my current company/ in my current city for probably another 6ish years due to tuition reimbursement. Studying Japanese is mostly a casual interest tied to vtubers/Japanese music and I doubt I'd pass anything beyond N5 (especially since I have been trying to do some other stuff so I only study a few hours/week). If I was mostly fluent I'd like to spend a few years living there for the experience, but Japanese corporate life seems awful (especially as a white guy) and living paycheck to paycheck gets significantly more pathetic as you get older, as well as meeting people and making new friends. I can't imagine moving to Japan as a single 35+ year old guy would be much fun.
>Besides, wouldn't forcing the normie activities just lead to meeting people who you won't be compatible with, anyway? Whenever I've done that, it feels like I can never relax because I'm putting on a front.
That's been my experience, but I already have to put on the normie front for most of the people I work with. I figure if I force it long enough maybe I'll eventually reach a point where I like all the normie activities and I won't be putting on a front anymore.

I'm in my 30s and still a virgin(6ft. average-slightly below average weight).

I don't have a single innate trait that could ever appeal to a girl,and i'm only getting uglier and uglier with age.

>>102541705
> me but 5'4

>>102541705
A bit younger but mostly same, I started balding as a teenager and have a weird head shape so I look fucking terrible no matter what I do. My doctor scared me into worrying about finasteride side effects, but now I've gotten enough "you'd actually be good looking if you had hair" comments that I feel hopeless.

>>102542137
A trip to Turkey might be worth it

>>102502989
I collect rusty metal.
Pebble and KFP for scale

>>102541705
unlike women, men do look massively better at older age. do not ever trying appeal to the female. you must do it for yourself and let them come for you. If you didn't let yourself go by the age 40, you will still be fucking mad young bitches like a flock of sheep

>>102541705
Get rich and become a rich ugly bastard

>>102542564
based

This is a good time for a reminder that if you actually think you have a real connection to any streamer you need to end your life immediately preferably on stream

>>102542564
>IREL AND

>>102542590
Actually i think its the opposite. I've never done anything to appeal to girls. I've always done things I want to do,which led me to never having a gf.

I really don't give a fuck about self improooving for the sake of self improving.

>>102542137
you don't need those hairs to be happy. sometimes things were just all in our heads(kek). purchase your confident back with a nice gym membership.

>>102543500
Coping to the max my man, balding niggers simply have weak genes

>>102543500
I get compliments on my body but they're always from other dudes...

>>102520225
>I just wanna be held and be told the shit I go through is appreciated and it'll be okay in the end.
Not gonna happen, anon. Sounds like you want motherly love - and I get it - but after a certain age that's off the table. If anything you need to become the person who can reassure others that everything's going to be okay.

>don't want to be lonely
>also fucking hate women

>>102501097
Get a bike and get high on speed. It's fun as hell zipping and leaning, especially through woodland terrain or industrial areas with a few trucks and hardly any cars.

>>102544089
>If anything you need to become the person who can reassure others that everything's going to be okay.
Already there. The cup I pour from is running empty

>>102501097
>decide to start going on regular hikes to lose weight
>hottest summer this city has ever experienced happens and moving even a centimeter is exhausting
I decided to just blame god for my weight

>>102545506
Well that's good isn't it means you can move less and burn more
When you're overweight literally everything you do burns more calories than someone who is in shape.

>>102535205
Not really. Surely there are things you could be doing better, but you're also just doing an extremely hard language for English speakers.

>>102535783
Literally any other greens are going to beat lettuce nutritionally. Kale, spinach, arugula. Try them out and see which you can stomach. Not a replacement for leafy greens but if you can get your hands on hemp hearts then those are also great. Low on lysine but just about the best plant-based protein there is

>>102535266
What exercises did you do?

>>102502989
mahjong

>>102545816
Adding to this, I don't recommend kale out of those. It tastes fucking disgusting.

>>102545548
Swimming in my own sweat is not fun

>>102538011
Look into some eastern religions/philosophy, like Zen. You don't gotta buy into anything but it seems like your current framing of things is cleanly work vs. play and the distinction is core to a bunch of shit

okay but how do I overcome my crippling social anxiety? I can't even talk to people online without being fully anonymous

>>102546044
I might have to, but honestly anything involving having to do stuff feels like work. That's how reality feels like to me. Yes, working out, eating healthy, making connections, learning useful skills and participating in productive hobbies isn't literally a job you're required to do to make money, but it does make existence itself feel like a job, in that you do things to get paid in material ways such as an extended lifespan or more opportunities to climb up the social ladder. And I suppose that's what I like about fantasy, it's about doing things for the sake of the thing in question, despite not providing anything of material value.

>>102546688
Exercise and a good diet are just inherently enjoyable even completely ignoring any of the other benefits.

>>102546749
I don't find it enjoyable. Do I still do it to an extent? Yes, because the consequences for not participating in those things is even worse. But everything about reality feels more like escaping consequences instead of chasing enjoyment. You have to do these things, because if you don't you will be punished.

>>102546348
You need to try and dig at the root of the problem that drives that fear. It can be really messy and honestly probably better for you to talk to a therapist than hoping listening to anime women on the internet can make you feel better.

>>102499852 (OP)
Deadlifted 3x405lb the other day and did a 200lb clean and jerk today, so I'm feeling pretty focused

>>102499852 (OP)
Whenever i focus on myself the desire to rope increases ten fold.

>>102504977
>life is literally 50% over purely from the perspective of raw numbers
>given entirely optimal situations
>I'll have to cash my own check
>maybe in the next 2-5 years
Begin by conceptualizing yourself as a human being and not a statistic.

>>102538060
normally I'd shill her, but I don't think she can take on more mentally ill charity cases at the moment.

>>102501097
Try to hit 10k steps a day, 15k is even better if you can swing it. Drink lots of water. Do intermittent fasting it’s super effective for fat loss and the longer you can go the better. I used to do rolling 72-hour fasts but lately I’ve been doing OMAD since I’m getting closer to my goal weight.
Some extra tips: start a simple skincare routine, once in the morning, once at night. Same with brushing your teeth and get yourself a tongue scraper. Take a shower every day if you can and invest in a signature perfume. If you can afford it, hit the gym and build that V-taper physique. Go 2–3 times a week and stay consistent.
Lowkey, you need to really hate your current self a bit to stay motivated. Personally I have a pic of a super hot jp girl as my phone wallpaper and every time I look at my phone, I ask myself “Would she even look my way with my current physique?” It keeps me in check everytime.

Your reason for grinding doesn’t have to be deep, just have some reason. Learn to delay gratification. Be consistent. Fall in love with the process, even if you have to gaslight yourself into it. We're gonna make it bruh

>fasting
lol
lmao

Blessed thread guys. I feel better reading this than the rest of the shit on this forsaken board. Got the feel a couple anons described as more of the reflection on yourself. We’re pulling through.

>>102547784
Good fucking job anon, 220lbs CnJ will come to you soon, keep at it.

>>102546688
>it's about doing things for the sake of the thing in question, despite not providing anything of material value
Yeah, I'd reiterate Zen, and to a lesser extent the Wu Wei aspect of Taoism. I don't mean to proselytize anything in particular so much as give you a touchpoint for people who have felt similarly throughout history.
FWIW I'm the same way. In my early 30s and I'm increasingly disconnected from family and friends because I spend my time doing what I like instead of worrying about getting married, buying a house, etc. (as they pursue those things). Obviously has its downsides but on the whole I think I'm happier since accepting it.

>>102549239
Honestly, I could probably do it but I usually only add weight when I feel stable for multiple attempts. I'm not in a hurry since I'm doing it for fun and not for social media/competition.

>>102547784
Nice work, anon.

>>102542564
Neat

>>102548869
Autophagy via fasting is the number one method to cleanse the body of cancer cells as well as one of the few methods available to actually get rid of microplastics. It's been a practice since ancient times for a reason.

I started going to the gym again. I'm trying to apply to get a better paying job and hoping to move out of my parents basement before the end of the year (i'm 31). I also got myself a girlfriend and haven't had one in like 7 years (I get that same dopamine rush of supporting her like i get when i support my oshi!) I'm hoping this all comes together as a step in the right direction and i eish the best for all other anons in here. We're all gonna make it, bros.

>>102499852 (OP)
Thank you King
I pray to Jesus for all your successes and wellbeing in life, anons.

>>102499852 (OP)
Thanks anon, wish you the best too. Stay grinding king.

>>102552183
>move out of my parents basement before the end of the year (i'm 31)
Same. But that said, life is great.
Enjoy summer and have fun with your gf anon!

>>102545506
It doesn't really matter. Exercise helps and is good for you in general, but weight is lost in the kitchen. All you need to do is eat less than maintenance calories. You'll need to examine yourself and experiment to find out how to do that in the easiest way. Maybe try to figure out when in the day you're hungriest, and eat a regular meal then, while having much smaller meals at other times. Or cut out the empty calories that are easiest to eat too much of, like chips or booze.

>>102535672
VTubing is wholesome which trains the mind to be elevated to better and higher things. And it's the mind and headspace we provide for ourselves which helps guide the body. What you put in effects heavily what you put out.
>8 Finally, brethren, whatever is true, whatever is honorable, whatever is just, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is gracious, if there is any excellence, if there is anything worthy of praise, think about these things. 9 What you have learned and received and heard and seen in me, do; and the God of peace will be with you.
>Philippians 4:8-9
So true.

>>102499852 (OP)

>>102502989
Collecting physical media for a sweet hi-fi home theatre that you can impress guests with

>>102502989
Gooning to futakino

>>102499852 (OP)
Much obliged, my nigga. Thanky you for blessing us with wisdom.

>>102552860
Saul was a fraud and a shitposter who openly lied constantly.

>>102554683
Just like jesus

>>102499852 (OP)
Thanks OP, I'm in a pretty dark place. I've been trying to work on myself for a while now. I've been hitting the gym since Covid. I decided to return to school to finish my degree last year, and made a switch into a company with actual career paths instead of a dead-end job. It hasn't paid off yet, but I hope it might someday. I still sit alone in my apartment every night, and struggle to connect with people. Knowing that one of my favorite vtubers was out having a happy, loving, and fulfilling life with her now-fiance just makes me feel extremely depressed. It's like I'm never going to find the same sort of happiness and love. I feel like God wants me to be alone. Maybe there is no dorky and cute weeb girl out there for me, and there never will be. Maybe the degree doesn't end up doing anything for me. Maybe I'll be switching back to my old dead-end job in a year, because I found it more comfortable and had confidence in my ability to perform the role. Why bother feeling optimistic when I have nothing to show for my efforts so far? What if I've just been watering a dead seed this whole time?

>>102555354
>Maybe I'll be switching back to my old dead-end job in a year, because I found it more comfortable and had confidence in my ability to perform the role.
Are there any certifications you can get to advance you in the field you already have experience in? That can help give you the boost you need. Also, if you still feel a little uncomfortable in your new role, I really suggest going on ChatGPT and asking it what you can do to gain more confidence in your work task. You can even ask it to give you some work related exercises and for it to give you feed back on how you would describe that you would handle the task.
>I feel like God wants me to be alone. Maybe there is no dorky and cute weeb girl out there for me, and there never will be
Pic related is a dorky guy who married a dorky girl. I watch him every now and again on YouTube just to see what's up with him. From my experience, there are a lot of girls into dorky things nowadays. The trouble is finding them in a natural way. You just need a systems approach for finding the girl you want. Don't give up on finding a companion. Create a system for meeting them. For example, this guy is a Christian and he met his wife through church related groups. That's an example of systemizing the way you meet people who have specific interests. If you want a dorky and cute weeb girl, you need to think of where you would likely meet a dorky cute weeb girl. From my personal experience in Los Angeles, a minimum of 2.5 out of 10 girls (again, from my experience) are now interested in dorky/nerdy stuff in general. regardless of race. So if you volunteer with a local charity that has a lot of young adult engagement, go to a church with some sort of adult small group, and pair that with some other social gathering like local fandom conventions and try to meet with a local group attending (probably can find this via discord for the convention), you should be around at least 8 girls into dorky things.
Keep in mind, when you enter a new group, it's good to get your bearings. Find the first person who positively meets you and just kinda shoot the shit with them. That always gives you good bearings in a new group setting. Then after that, you might find the girl.
>Why bother feeling optimistic when I have nothing to show for my efforts so far?
Make sure you are also enjoying the everyday moments of life. Most of our lives consist of smaller moments, sitting peacefully in the early morning having a glass of milk, late night reading, weekend sitting in the shade reading a book, etc.
Remind yourself to enjoy the regular moments in the present.
And not only that, but remember to always approach what you're facing in life with gratitude. Remind yourself of that.
>What if I've just been watering a dead seed this whole time?
You exist. You have goals and things you would like to do. Just because you're still pursuing them doesn't mean it's a dead seed.
I pray for your success, anon. You have people cheering you on.

>>102555354
>I feel like God wants me to be alone
It's not just you, anon. We're all emblematic of society as a whole.

>>102557247
The issue with creating a system, is that I'm not in a major city nor am I in California. I feel like I'm already at the age where showing up to certain events to meet people is frowned upon. I've met some girls who are into vtubing adjacent things, but they're all either married or have boyfriends. Maybe I'm just making excuses, or maybe I'm too scared to open up to other people. For the job stuff, I haven't seen any sprouting coming from my effort. It feels like I'm just slogging through the worst job one can have at the company. I barely have any time to do the extra training that I can get certifications for. The stuff about new college graduate unemployment in America also has me feeling pretty depressed about job prospects. I hope to get promoted internally at my company, but then I have to pray that a job opens up.

>>102558548
>I feel like I'm already at the age where showing up to certain events to meet people is frowned upon
This isn't really a thing in my experience.

>>102558548
>I feel like I'm already at the age where showing up to certain events to meet people is frowned upon
I don't think there's an age for this nowadays, anon. As long as your trying to have fun and enjoy the event/meet up then that will set the mood well for everyone else too. By and large, no one seems to care too much. I'm older too. And if someone isn't meshing with you, then it goes back to the point I made where I said that you just need to find someone who is giving you friendly/positive interaction and just be pleasant and ask them friendly questions about whatever mutual interests are apparent (typically the setting your in is an inherent spring board like church, TCG, outdoor hiking group meet up).
It's like the song The Middle by Jimmy Eat World. Most of our worries are in our head and so long as we try in good faith to do the right thing, people will pick up on it and things tend to turn out better than our worst fears in social settings.
Andrew Carnegie's book, How to Make Friends and Influence People, had some good stuff about how to have better "success rates" when meeting new people. I wouldn't advise that anons follow it to a T, but generally it had good insight into how to leave people feeling better after meeting you. And a framework gives me more assurance when I can have one.
>The stuff about new college graduate unemployment in America also has me feeling pretty depressed about job prospects
Keep your eyes open for new job opportunities for sure. I've heard that once someone is employed, that their new task is to keep their eyes open for another job they can hop to that pays more.

>mfw already attractive but can't stand most women i meet

>>102504258
I'm 33 and I was the same. Part of what >>102508658 is so important: Get over yourself. Your ego is probably high because you know you're talented. You think you know a lot. But here's the thing, you actually don't. All the experiences and knowledge you've gained don't really mean shit. YOU ain't shit. However, once you acknowledge it and kill that side of your ego, it's the most freeing thing in the world. You become curious again, you can see things from other perspectives clearer, you become more willing to try things and be daring.

>>102511660
Man good for you if you follow through. Go and enjoy yourself anon.

>>102553254
What's some futakino

>>102565835
Rondo Duo and Space Pirate Sara are great.

What's with people calling men "king"?

>>102566594
Raising others up. You can call women "queen" too

>>102566329
My brotha

19 yo anon here
do you guys know if cycling is a good way to lose belly fat? I do not exercise except for commuting via bike to my local university, so i'd like to know if any of (you) have something interesting about it.

>>102509891
She was NEVER on the market.

>>102501097
Look up some shit about boxing (proper form, footwork, combos, etc.), and then start practicing what you learned with shadow-boxing and/or a punching bag. You'll feel like a weak retard at first, but if you take the time to understand the movements and keep to a routine, you'll be surprised how much progress you'll make in a short amount of time.

>>102567866
Cardio in general is a trap, gotta just eat less.
Also work out though, if you have muscles you don't want to lose. That's the real tricky part, not the eating less.

>>102567866
You can't target which fat you want to lose ("spot reduction"). That said, your genetics could be such that any fat you burn at this point will happen to be the fat on your belly.
Cycling is as good as anything else. As far as exercising for weight loss goes, you just need to burn calories. But if your commute feels trivial to you then you're probably not burning that many calories.

>>102567866
Cycling is not an exercise I would recommend. Also, don't focus on spot reduction of body fat, because it's not possible. You need to just reduce your overall bodyfat. Look into cardio exercise that isn't so harmful to your balls. Swimming and rowing are great. Also, you need to lift weights. You don't need to be a bodybuilder or powerlifter, but you should be doing weight training.
t. 30 year old lifter anon

>>102512167
Rushia's relationship problems just broke containment. She didn't willfully announce it and tried to fight tooth and nail to keep it private because it would absolutely ruin her.

>>102515490
To add context to Kant's "It's fine". He was given a spoonful mix of sweetened water and wine as he was already super frail on his deathbed as some sort of treat. His caretaker was feeding it to him and when the caretaker thought he wanted more he simply said, "Es ist gut" then closed his eyes and passed away.

bump

>>102566594
When you realize you're the king of your own life you can make the changes in your life to better it.

We all just need to start going for Girlcock instead of real girls. Girlcock will never betray you and your life will better as you will have way more options to choose from.

>>102499852 (OP)
Thanks king
WAGMI

I don't know what I'm living for or why I really do anything. I've progressed in various ways throughout my life but I still constantly feel like a fucking loser whenever I see everyone around me in happy relationships while I am totally incapable of finding a gf no matter what I do. I have friends and family I guess but I don't really feel all that close to any of them.

>>102572283
>Girlcock will never betray you
As someone who's banged the whole spectrum, plain women are somehow still the least insane pool of partners

>>102572283
Facts!

>>102572428
You sound so much like me it's unreal. It is demoralizing to get older and see so many people your age getting married, starting families, hitting a stride in their career, etc. You should try reaching out to one of your friends, just to talk with them. Sometimes just expressing a bit of the depression you're feeling to one of your bros can shift your framing. Give yourself a little bit of grace for how far you've made it so far, and accept that you have the ability to change things further.
There are so many small things we don't notice until we're ready to perceive them. I could tell you something that happened to me today that nearly brought me to tears.

>>102548329
>I have a pic of a super hot jp girl as my phone wallpaper and every time I look at my phone, I ask myself “Would she even look my way with my current physique?” It keeps me in check everytime.
She wouldn't look your way with your current face that no amount of exercise will change.

>>102574205
I've tried talking about it before because I've always had issues attracting people, but every time it would just get me either a bullshit "just be yourself bro" or a "you're being an incel". Neither is helpful and even mentioning it just made them lose respect for me. I can't see myself (or any idealized version of myself) being appealing to any woman I've ever been interested in. It's not that I have no positive qualities, but a billion better men than I do have those same qualities and more. If I was a woman, I would never date me (or any theoretical better version of me) under any circumstance. I have a lot of physical features that I find absolutely disgusting (and are generally considered unattractive) that couldn't be fixed without surgery. I'm an autist. My voice is annoying and nasally. Any individual one of those turns off a lot of women, and all of them combined just ick any of the few single women I meet/speak to out. It all just seems fucking hopeless and I don't know how long I can really keep dealing with life being pretty sure that I'll never find anyone or anything.

>>102576005
>She wouldn't look your way with your current face that no amount of exercise will change
Same retarded black pill cope, I actually feel sorry for you if you truly believe that crap. I've known people that look below average or even fat get women just because they were funny as fuck and made people happy to be around them.
Looks can get you so far but if you're a boring fuck with no personality other than looks no one will stick around with you.for long.

tfw still never spend a single dime on any vtuber ever
never bought any merch
the closest thing I did was donating to robin00 once

please make this a self-help general or something. i don't want it to die.

>bunch of medical problems
>nearly go blind
>emergency surgery starts recovery process
>use vtubers as a coping mechanism and form of escapism
dunno what im doing with my life

This is the greatest thread I've ever seen on /vt/ holy shit
Hoping any anons making a new start the best

I should also find something to propel me forward, I'm going nowhere fast. Just gotta hope it's all okay where ever it takes me

>>102501097
Dont diet like an idiot. Cut your calorie intake overtime and not over night. Losing weight is a journey not a destination bros. Just do that and lift weights and you'll be good. Dont worry about macros and shit unless you want to go below 15% bodyfat.

But if you do want to go on a hard die, consult your doctor

Also tip: when you have cravings for something sweet. Nutella is your best friend. 1 tablespoon of that shit is around 80 calories

>>102579886
Hard diet** not die. Dont die bros

>>102578288
Well, you're recovering. You have a pretty damn good reason not to be doing anything.
If you want to feel like you're making progress towards your life, try taking a baby step towards something you previously could do but now struggle with. I had to stop working due to medical issues, and I took a couple courses tangent to my degree just to figure out how I'd function once I recovered enough to take my next steps in life. You'll probably have to adjust for things that you've never had to consider before, and it's much easier to figure it out in a low stakes environment.

>>102541705
same but 5'6 and also bald

I fucking hate being 34 with the level of social awareness I have now. At 25 I was actually "cute" to many girls but I fumbled it badly.

>>102580140
>I had to stop working due to medical issues
NTA but same here. I'm pretty much handling things the same way you are, but shit still sucks.

Not really a napling but the whole situation reminded me of my own experience years ago.
>had a bad breakup
>confide to a mutual friend and she hears me out and advice me on how to move on
>months later she ends up being the only person I talk to on a regular basis
>essentially my emotional support as I'm coping with the breakup
>over time we end up forming a close friendship
>conversations start to get flirty
>"love ya"
>"love you too hehe <3"
>"you looked cute today"
>"hehe thanks~"
>think maybe things aren't so bad after all
>one day see on twitter she had fainted while out in public
>call up and text her to check if she's okay, says she's fine
>announce on twitter how thankful she is that her fiance was there to keep her safe and hold her hand after passing out, even taking her to the hospital
>mfw she never once mentioned this person in all our conversations
>mfw thoughts of my breakup start flooding back
>mfw "what the fuck was I even thinking haha"
>mfw there's pit in my stomach
>mfw weeks later she asks me for relationship advice (offered some generic advice which she somehow found helpful)
>mfw a month later we just sort of drift apart as I try to keep my distance
>mfw months later I see her announcing her wedding
>mfw

my dog died of cancer last year.
I've had a few extended relatives die, but this death hit me the hardest. I knew this little guy for 6 years. He was the goofiest most retarded shit ever, he always begged for food, always got into the kitchen and made a mess.
He was diagnosed around 2 years ago, we managed to stave it off through a round of treatment. He got an extra year, but then later it came back.
We were informed the cancer was no longer responding, we could drop thousands more on another treatment (we had already paid a ton and realistically couldnt justify the risk with only a possibility of him being alive a few more months) to possibly keep him alive longer or just enjoy the time left (around a month)
I really did enjoy my time with that guy, but it was so painful and heartbreaking to see him deteriorate, he couldn't breathe properly, eventually stopped sleeping on the bed and slept on cold tiled floor (we suspected it was more comfortable for his aches).
The last 2 weeks were the hardest, I found him unable to move. His limbs were swolen, he was obviously in a lot of pain.
The vet said it was pretty much the end stages, we decide when to let him go. So we decided on around a week. The vet gave us some powerful pain meds.
I slept in the living room with him on the floor. He always cried in the night from the pain I suspect.
Luckily the pain meds seemed to work, he was able to stand. Walk around. Seemed more lively.
By the end of the week though it was less effective.
We had him do some Paw paintings, did a whole photoshoot, gave him a shit ton of junk food. I walked him around for his last sunset, took photos with him, then later in the night I took him outside so he could see the stars on his last night.
the next day we drove him to the vet, went into the room. He still barked at the doctor. We gave him chocolates, the same ones he would always try to eat and would worry us when he did.
We made sure that the last thing he saw and felt was us. I felt him fall asleep, and then he was gone.


It's been months, nearly a year. My college grades suffered. I've been holed up in my room longer, my motivation is still in rough shape. I haven't cleaned his bowls still, they're in the same place gathering dust. The clothes I wore his last day are in a bag, same with his leash and harness.
I know it was only a dog, I know it'll probably devastate me more when close family members pass, but this damn guy was like a little brother to me, he was a baby. I still miss the way he greeted me at the door every time I came back home. Even after less than an hour outside. I still miss how he barked at anyone who passed by outside through the window. I still don't like taking walks because it doesn't feel right without a leash in my hand and him sniffing around in the grass.
I'm still in my room, I've gone through a lot or things to cope. I want to do stuff, I want to return to my classes after skipping a semester, I want to get my license, I went to exercise. I want to socialize more, I want to improve.
But life for me genuinely has lost a bit of its color. It's just more dull now.
I still want to try though, I know he loved us because he would always whine at the window whenever he was alone. He would always wag his tail and bark when the car pulled into the driveway.
I still want to try, at least for him.

>>102501097
>but food tastes too good
Similar boat, it's hard to control the urge to eat something tasty but going out for long walks early in the morning did help me lose a bunch of weight, even if pretty slowly.
I lost around 15kg throughout the year with some constant ups and downs in weight, my goal is to lose 20 more to be at an ideal healthy weight but the more weight I lose the harder it gets to lose more, and I'm also a lazy fuck so my progress slowed down quite a bit, but I will say that slow progress is better than no progress so even if you go for a walk only a couple of times a week it's a lot better than none.

A small tip: One of the biggest reasons I hated going outside to exercise was the heat but also outside noises. I hate the sound of loud cars, random people yapping, crying babies, even birds chirping.
The heat issue I solved by going out early in the morning around 5-6am before the sun comes out and it's still chill.
For the outside noises issue I'd highly recommend investing in some wireless noise canceling earbuds like the Airpods pro 2 or Sony WF-1000XM5 if you can afford it. Easily best purchase I made in recent years and a major reason why I could exercise more consistently and start losing weight. It's so much easier when you have music to distract you and no annoying noises are getting through.
Good luck.

I have nothing in life that I strive for, I'm living day to day dealing with mental debilitating OCD, focusing on myself would just make it worse.

>>102580272
Yep, definately does. The social aspect's been pretty fucked since some people think that even progress "wins" are too much of a bummer to acknowledge. Been thinking about whether I've become too used to using streams as a substitute for regular broad interaction, but at the same time, I've developed a structure for projects and have enough one-on-one interaction with friends that I don't have the energy to care. The isolation's a weird thing to address.

>>102580682
Holy. I don't think I've ever cared about something this much. Sorry for your loss, anon.

>>102499852 (OP)
It always was the case. Watching vtubers got boring to me, I'd rather wish to become one myself instead but I'm unsure about the niche I could take on and if I'd be good at it.
I stopped following most of drama because women are stupid and retards online blow things out of proportion all the time. Instead, I started focusing on myself since last year. Been lifting heavy weights, started jogging, fixed sleep schedule, been picking up those few video games that I promised myself to beat 100% from time to time. Life got better.

>>102580682
My dog passed away in my arms on the way to the hospital while she was just calmly staring at me until I felt her limbs go limp. Needless to say, I feel you anon.

>>102580682
Have you considered some sort of professional grief counseling? It might be helpful for reorienting your headspace and reframing your thoughts so you can keep yourself grounded enough to try for him. You know what sets you off, and you have a clear motivator. Getting formal strategies could help bridge you over.

>>102580142
Hey I'm 33. Nice to meet a fellow mid 30s bro lurking here.
I'm kinda in the same boat. Like you, I was decent looking to women in my early to mid 20s but I decided to be a dumbass and push off getting women so that I could go back to school. Once I finished, I found my degree wasn't shit and had to start from the bottom. No time to get with women because I was broke as fuck. Then COVID hit. Definitely couldn't get dates then. I'm finally at a place career wise where I can start thinking about dating again but I spent all that time grinding that I let my social skills and my appearance go to waste. Can't even look at pictures of my younger self anymore without feeling regret of what could have been. So I feel your pain bro. Let's keep our chins up and keep fighting through and maybe we'll be able to score. I'm rooting for you.

>>102535275
Honestly, the most important part is to start. Just pick whatever program, like in the pic or something like convict conditioning.
If the program doesn't work, you can always change. Just stay on same program for couple of weeks to see if you like it.

>>102580350
lol that sucks but it is what it is

>>102503175
A tip that might help for some who still want to enjoy vtubers without getting into the shit of it is to watch collabs exclusively. Solo streams are ultimately about encouraging emotional attachment. With collabs the streamers will be playing off each other instead of interacting with chat and it's actually the CGDCT content people say they want.

>>102580350
Sounds like you got played anon. Don't think for a second she was ever attracted to you.

>>102499852 (OP)
That's the plan if I don't die in surgery on Friday

>>102577724
Whatever helps you sleep at night.

Heyo, not napling at all and not affected by that, but regardless, still a pretty mentally fucked NEET. Only thing is, I am in pretty good shape, already. I am like 176 pounds at 6 foot with 15%~ bodyfat, maybe a bit lower. (I do calisthenics at home cause hikki so I have no comparison to how strong I am in a gym sense beyond having a single dumbbell kek) I eat relatively healthy, I exercise a shit ton, I have friends that care about me, but I cannot bring myself to do pretty much anything but work out and watch my chuuba, which are the only things currently stopping me from feeling like life isn't worth it anymore.

I know all the advice, I know I should get a job or university or whatnot, I know I should learn skills or go to social events or whatever the fuck, but seriously: How do you start when you have zero motivation to do so? I don't want to suffer, but I feel like I don't REALLY want to get better either. How do I make myself actually want things again, how do I stop being dead inside?

>>102502989
Masturbation

>>102590138
Start with your interests.
You like working out, gyms like people that like working out. See if there is a job for you in one of 'em.

>>102590138
It's a hard thing to tackle. I'm not sure how you survive or where you get money for things like food or housing, but having any future asperations or goals is important. If you can only live in the moment, it means you'll have no drive for what's to come. People talk about nindfulness for those who like to overplan to help them ground themselves in the here and now a little more so they can enjoy and experience their current life instead of thinking and worrying all the time about the future, but too much on either side of the coin is bad.

>>102578013
I'd like this, too
It's actually a decent thread in the sea of shit and falseflags

>>102588693
Don't worry I'm sleeping very comfortably, I'd trust my life experiences easily over whatever retarded lookmaxxers gaslight their negative self esteemed loser audience with online.

Focus on yourselves and stop giving money and attention to these whores. You can do it bros.

anybody sucessfully quit jacking off to ai chatbots? I'm not guilt ridden or anything but it takes like an hour each time since i get immersed

>>102591235
Parents didn't completely give up on me yet.

You're right that I need some aspiration or goal, something to take me out of the moment, but I'm so mindfucked, about the only desire I have right now is getting to know my oshi. Maybe becoming friends with her. But that's not really translatable into action (and extremely unhealthy to boot). I don't care for money, status, material things, activities or sex. I don't even really get lonely to be honest. I'm not struggling to make my wants a reality, im struggling to have wants... but I don't want to believe that I am just completely empty and resigned either. I like to think I am a full person under it, but I have no idea how to get genuine excitement, desire, wonder or honestly, fuck it, even sadness or jealousy back. Sorry if this is too negative, I'm just... lost.

I genuinely don't have a single clue what I'm even living for

Josh warned us about vtuberss.

>>102594446
Who?

>>102594446
>my suppachat whore e-boy warned me about e-girls
ok lol

im honestly just so fucking lonely.
the classic never had a gf, virgin all that stuff.
im not an incel or some other bullshit like that, this is a me problem.
but fuck, i feel so lonely i think im feeling health effects from it. i do have friends but thats only one type of a relationship needed in your life. i dont want to play some retard tinder games and i dont want to be with people who do that. i fee like my only real salvation right now is to go through life, try being a better person and i guess pray that i get lucky and some woman that will love me will just drops into my life.
vtubers have been my only way to get some 10% cope with the situation, like drinking to forget trauma. help.

>>102594342
My biggest obsession in life is anime-style art so I figured I should just start making it myself. I had fun drawing and painting at an art class but for some reason I can't make myself even grab a pencil when I'm home.

>>102580682
LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOmy dog died of heart failure and I watched vtubers to copeOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>102594788
literally me. know that theres peace in acceptance, and you can still live and become a person even without a partner. find comfort in the things you like and eventually you'll find your place in this world

i have no purpose or ambition nobody needs me. my parents are going to be fine if i don't give them a cent. My siblings have done very well for themselves and are much older than me so i can't do anything for them. I don't really have a good outlook on life so i don't get close to people and infect them with my negativity or want to have kids and pass that on. I feel like i'm waiting for something to happen but nothing ever does. the last meaningfull thing i'll do is probably bury my parents.

I'm gonna go for a 6k run, lads

Have any of you guys had success meeting girls through their friends? I've stopped caring too much about getting a gf ILOVECOCK but a lot of anons seem to be in a position to meet women, but they just already have partners or something.

>>102598218
i genuinely dont know. seemingly the biggest non schizo advice is to just get female friends and go from there.
i did that but if anything it just now put me in a position of being friend zoned or believing that seemingly 99% of women are taken somehow. so i really have no clue wtf to do.

>>102598218
Making friends is but one avenue.
However, if you are just a friend you will remain just friends.
Be forwards, dating is about putting yourself out there. No reason to use Tinder but if you're after meeting a potential parter then go do mixers and other singles events, or even dance classes or Church are all places to meet singles.
You will find others that are also looking if you aren't saying that you only want a friend, you'll make friends.

TL;DR: Don't shirk away from being forwards, present yourself as somebody that's looking for a partner. Even in a small area, people talk.
Otherwise flirting is a game of escalation, you escalate, and if she does then you escalate further. Bit by bit, inch by inch until you're both good and ready.

>>102598218
Not really. Most of my friends (and all my local ones) are guys who work in male dominated fields who are mostly friends with other guys. All the women I'm friends with live on the other side of the U.S. so there's no point asking them if they even know any single women looking for someone.

>>102512274
I'm tired of seeing such shit advice for running AI.

Download KoboldCPP for Windows or Linux: https://github.com/LostRuins/koboldcpp/releases/tag/v1.96.2

Download the two best RP models:
https://huggingface.co/inflatebot/MN-12B-Mag-Mell-R1-GGUF/resolve/main/MN-12B-Mag-Mell-Q4_K_M.gguf
https://huggingface.co/bartowski/NemoMix-Unleashed-12B-GGUF/resolve/main/NemoMix-Unleashed-12B-Q4_K_M.gguf

Enjoy the AI waifu experience entirely offline.

>>102598218
Weeb shit is gonna filter 99.9% of women my age but I can't give it up either so I'm sticking with 2D girls

>>102598724
>downloading and running old local shit when top models are free nowdays
i dont know if you are aware but this is old tech mate. just use Deepseek or Gemini. literally free, uncensored models for whatever you need.

>>102598724
What if you have a on old-ass laptop?

>>102599004
>this is old tech
You have no idea what you're talking about lmao.

>>102599009
Going to need at least 8gb vram.

>>102599385
>You have no idea what you're talking about lmao.
enjoy overloading and burning your pc for some shit ass 30k context, wacky, barely working, 10x worse models just because you are stubborn..

>>102566594
It's used jokingly because women unironically call themselves kweens.

>>102599762
Suggest better models for 8gb or 16gb cards then. The things I use aren't overloading or burning anything, my GPU is barely running since the token processing is largely determined by vram read speeds.

>>102598724
Whatever happened to silly tavern

>>102548101
Yeah, why is this.