Sir another plane has hit the vshojo towers

Fucking bitches... they won and are rubbing it in...

Gunrun is a crook.

Vei hates hololive

>>102531432 (OP)
I want to order a double bj please

I want to win and have vei rub it in

Do NDAs expire?

I mean if the nda covers illegal/unlawful activity it can be voided (at least in the states)....so whatever happened to them must have not been illegal in nature or they just don't know their protections

>>102531611
No shit, vshojo whores all hate hololive

>>102531611
Based
Total Corponigger death

>>102531828
>Do NDAs expire?
depends on what she signed

>>102531996
With how bitchy these two are I think they would have been a bit more vocal about hating vshojo if they really got legit scammed.
As far as I can remember the only thing Veibae said was something like "please have a lawyer read your contracts" (during the niji fiasco iirc?) while Silver never said shit except that Ironrat is a fake friend.

Vshojo was set up as a pyramid scheme from the beginning so technically they did get scammed but only in the colloquial sense, I doubt they are still owed money or anything like that.

>>102531432 (OP)
There is no way the NDA is still active. Unless they still get royalties paid out for something.

WHERE'S THE MONEY IGNACIO?

So they did fucking know
and Kson did nothing.

>>102531611
She loves Lumi tho

>>102531432 (OP)
Is she getting married a second time?

>>102532560
They are the same base type of woman.
Lumi just has a higher IQ and Vei the higher libido.

>>102532467
kikeson is really the worst in all of this since she was the #1 shill for them, ACTIVELY helped them poach JP talents twice, didn't say shit when all of them were quitting in droves (and matara got fucking FIRED) even though she knew what was happening.
Could make an argument for Ironrat too, but at least she never glazed vshojo or personally poached new victims for the CEO, plus she had been in hiding for weeks with some tummy hort bullshit excuses so she has some plausible deniability about not speaking up sooner.

>>102531432 (OP)
double paizuri

>>102531432 (OP)
so they knew and didn't think to help out the other girls? they just let them get fucked over?

>>102532894
In their mind it's your own fault if you get scammed by a corp (they are right)
And also the levels of vshojo glazing back then were unhinged, nobody would believe that the corp was actually bad, they would just look like seething bitches for daring to go against the GOD-QUEEN JESUS OF VTUBING (self-appointed) that is Ironmouse and receive tons of hate.

>>102532408
>Silver never said shit except that Ironrat is a fake friend.
and she's not wrong.

>>102532785
Her live stream calling the boss was so cringe and fake. What a hypocritical weirdo

>>102532467
Kson is american and therefore a nigger.

>>102532341
Not good ones.

>>102532894
>>102533267
Whores like that dont give a fuck about others. Its all about ME!ME!ME!
never once does the idea of helping their fellow girls cross their minds. Thats why I dont feel bad, so far every single vtuber in that company proven to be a perfect fit.

>>102532467
>>102532785
>>102534073
when are we rangebanning zhangistan?

reminder:
https://files.catbox.moe/odvaf5.webm

>>102532894
Someone else has to be left holding the bags and it sure as hell wasn't going to be them

>>102534010
>bitch ass nigga where my money at??
>hai

>>102532408
>while Silver never said shit except that Ironrat is a fake friend.
Silver did heavily imply that their contracts was bad, but silver is mentally ill. If she felt loved in the org she would not mind losing money, for silver attention and affection is unironically more important than money

>>102532785
It really puts into perspective that all Kekson cares about is her image. All she cares about is making herself look good and there was nothing in it for her when those things happened. Which is why the call with the JP dude earlier came off as so fucking fake. It was just all theatrics and nothing else.

>>102531432 (OP)
There's no tower left to hit lady. Mouse nuked it.

>>102536099
all you care about is munching on bats lmfao

>>102531432 (OP)
she knew

>>102535600
>let VShojo handle your money to stay anonymous
>VShojo robs you
>to get your money back you have to file leagal proceedings in court, AKA, doxxing yourself to the world

Ironmouse hurt itself in its confusion

>>102538608
just ask connor to do it

>>102536506
Come on man, Ozzy just died.

Too soon

>>102535934
The money thing was probably present back then but I don't think that's why she left. Silvervale got harassed like hell because she chose to play Hogwarts legacy and the troons took exception to that. And no one from the company from the talents ( iron mouse said some limp wristed oh its not right to harass when she could have told them to stop) .

>>102532444
ask melody

>>102535555
right after jizzrahell

>>102531996
>Totally legit hitman contract
>Whack this guy in exchange for 50K
>Also you can't tell anyone you whacked him or that I asked you to
Wouldn't really fly in any country, not just the US

>>102534474
Other way around. There's no "good" or "bad" NDAs like it's just a matter of knowing the magic words, there's enforceable and not enforceable. An NDA with an unlimited non-disclosure period for no good reason would likely not be enforceable anywhere.

>>102531432 (OP)
i would fuck vei so hard

>>102532341
You can't just put literally anything in an NDA and have that be legal and enforceable. Don't overestimate their strength.

>>102531611
Yeah she hates black companies just like everyone else

>>102531611
Based

>>102538608
may the incoming lawsuit burn her.

>>102535555
What will Kson have to do for you to stop supporting her?

>>102539707
get married to a guy, probably

>>102532894
>>102533267
>>102534010
>>102535612
>>102536099
It seems like every other case of indie drama, everyone knew what was going on and nobody said anything, but once it became public now it’s cool to virtue signal and play the victim and vague post.

Women were a mistake.

>>102538760
you can't file lawsuits on behalf of someone else.
>t. legal mindset viewer

>>102539707
i will always support her against retarded monkeys and bugs who make shit up about her because their shithole countries dump weird shit in the water

How can JP be doing good financial but not EN?

>>102535600
This is 5-6 years old, meaning her daughter is about 16. How old is Ironmouse if she got married and had a kid that's now 16? At the youngest, 32, but she's probably around 40 or older.
I have gained more respect for Connor after learning he's fucking a 40 something MILF despite being in his mid 20s.

>>102532785
>or personally poached new victims for the CEO
Didn't the ex-nijis join because of ironmouse?

>>102535934
>affection is unironically more important than money
Oh no…

>>102531432 (OP)
>I legally can't badmouth the company
>proceeds to badmouth the company
Is she retarded?

>>102540234
Well he does love milfs. So he's winning.

>>102535600
No one cares anon

>>102541040
Indiewhores are subhuman retards

>>102531432 (OP)
Look I love Silver and I think she's great but I don't think she has the brains to see the cracks that Vei saw

>>102541040
not specifics. But when a company fucks up publicly agreeing with everyone else that its a a failure is alright. When your reputation hits the gutter in public opinion it isn't criticizing anymore. It's agreeing with the current facts. That's why when NijiEN lost its reputation it was hilarious and somehow Vshojo did it as well.

>People are saying the K-Son and JP VShojo CEO call was fake

What are you people talking about, how would you fake that shit? Are you saying she grabbed some old Japanese men to roleplay as the CEO? Come on...

>>102535600
Wtfffff

>>102541040
Do you have to ask?

>>102541473
>Are you saying she grabbed some old Japanese men to roleplay as the CEO
I wouldn't put it past her

>>102531432 (OP)
I had a feeling I was right to side with silver on this specific issue

>>102541473
ESL-chama by fake they are talking about kson's intentions behind the call, it was performative so she could look like the savior jesus of vtubing (again) when in reality she was the one who not only glazed and shilled this company as having "no downsides" but also literally personally invited several people.
She wanted to speak to Gunrun, and I seriously doubt she actually believed this guy would ever show up and explain away his embezzlement.

>>102542045
Well she didn't know this embezzlement was happening so I'm not going to blame her for wanting to save her own ass and be pissed about not getting any money

>>102542160
Every single one of them is owed money, do you seriously think NONE of them ever talked to each other about it (in years) and never knew they weren't the only one getting scammed?

>>102542358
I don't think they talked about it because the talents are very Split from each other, everyone has their circle.

>>102535600
so why exactly did a woman with an immune deficiency disorder who by her own account is terrified of managing her own finances think its a good idea to have unprotected sex with an abusive guy and then actually carry it all the way to pregnancy

>>102541166
>>102541662
have another one then
https://files.catbox.moe/ewziwb.webm

>>102531432 (OP)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=M4tTvB5EyeI
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=T-blwfMg0Sw

>>102542939
It's funny that there's no one left to keep trying to scrub these off of internet

>>102542358
Shut up you stupid little idiot, K-Son has helped a lot of vtubers, just because some worthless person decided to screw her and others over, doesn't mean she's somehow guilty and needs to be blamed for bringing in talents

>>102535600
The funny thing is that VShojo can no longer save her from this clip getting shared now. It kept on getting DMCA'd by TNT MUSO, VShojo's takedown provider. Both her and Froot are fucked now.

>>102535600
how can someone with an immune deficiency disorder who herself and all her fans say that she cannot leave her room or live a normal life or do anything a normal person does seemingly have sex with someone and also give birth???

>>102532894
>they just let them get fucked over?
Maybe all indies and influencers are all the same

>>102543776

>>102535600
As you should, don't let them forget. Hopefully you don't get vacation'd

>>102531611
>doesn't work for holo
>sign their NDA
AIEEEEEE retardbros, how did holo become so powerful?

>>102533945
Is there any actual evidence that ironmouse is a "fake friend"?

>>102535600
Vshojo can't stop mousey anymore

>>102532894
They can't force other girls to leave too lol
The other girls made their decision to stay in 2023 despite the warning signs, and now we see the consequences of that

>>102535600
Who was that dude interviewing her?

>>102543991
Best I can think of is how she didn't spent time with Nyanners after she left the company

>>102531611
she loves sodapopin

>>102544280
Given everything about VShojo that has been revealed so far, we can't rule out the possibility that VShojo pressured their talents to not collab with ex-talents who left

>>102532894
that text doesn't exactly says they did the exact same practice since 2023, it just says that the company is awful at handling their members. what they did was jump from the terrible boat they were in, nothing more nothing less

>>102540458
Gunrun personally looked into Mysta's taxes trying to solve his tax fraud issues, pretty sure he got in contact through Mouse though

>>102531828
if Vshojo tries to do insolvency/bankrupt to get out of the millions in payments they cant pay then the NDA's will be probably void too.

>>102543277
The jannies on Vshojo's payroll have realised that they're never actually going to get their checks.

>>102541040
Its not like they have the money to sue her kek

>>102542773
by being young and dumb,
because of our failure of a society failing at raising & teaching kids to have some sense.

>>102542939
i wonder if he got on hrt

>>102539740
so if kson marries a girl its fine ? :D i mean your still getting cucked

>>102544667
the NDAs will be voided if Vshojo is dissolved, which it most likely will be, but bankruptcy in itself doesn't necessarily dissolve a company if they can make something actually profitable in the restructuring, which is highly unlikely in this case.

You cant say No to these types of "people"
shylily good vibed haruka into western nijisanji
owo

>>102539411
Lawyer here. The dance between NDAs and whistleblowing is absolutely fascinating. Many laws exist federally and in each State limiting the enforceability of NDAs as they apply to reporting illegal activity to the police as well as publishing statements about that illegal activity. Also, at what we call "common law," in general, NDAs that violate public public policy are unenforceable.

REGARDLESS, whistleblowers under NDA need to balance a variety risks if they want to violate NDAs. First, they have to be careful that their disclosures don't go beyond the illegal activity. If they disclose something outside of the scope of that illegal activity, enforceability and liability become murky. Second, even IF an NDA is unenforceable, whistleblowers run the risk of being tied up in lawsuits attempting to enforce the NDA. Even with a potential anti-SLAPP motion, the smart thing to do is often just to avoid running the risk of violating the NDA.

Ultimately what this boils down to is that even with whistleblower protection laws, NDAs still serve as a powerful deterrent to whistleblowing, allowing corporations to get away with evil. A good example of this is the Theranos case, if you want to look it up.

>>102543839
The women one the right, never trust them. The worst. Get a church girl or a normie.

>>102545822
>Theranos
Lol, that woman also had her group of rabbid fans who where in love with her.

>>102542939
played vrchat in 2018. met zentreya at a vrchat wedding. dude was talking like a guy. easy as that. I have ALOT of forbidden knowledge deemed as "schizo rrats" simply because I've been in the vtuber space before it was even a vtuber space.

>>102535600
Free at last, free at last

Sodapoppin said that Vei found out about a VShojo chuuba shitposting about vei on /vt/.

>>102542939
>Mouse MILF, Zentranny, Froot theft
I guess VS tranny jannies aren’t getting their paychecks anymore.

>>102545968
Right? The Theranos scandal is a microcosm of everything emblematically wrong with the 2010s.
> Ridiculous amount of venture capital poured into Silicone Valley
> Techno-hero worship
> Tech-sphere in general becoming extremely half-hazard
> Startup culture now dead because of how awful these startups were. The corporations that survived now corner every market

The fallout we're living in sucks.

>>102543839
>people still lusting after westoid whores
>not going for cute asian virgins instead
lol

>>102546041
sorry what? clip?

>>102531432 (OP)
>legally can't badmouth the company
wtf?

>>102547287
I'm not white sadly

>>102532433
NDA's are active based on the terms set forth in the agreement or in this case if the company goes under the other party that will not exist to give a shit.

>>102543839
>left: has sex for validation
>right: has sex because they have a sex drive
Imagine if you, as a man, could have sex with someone whenever you were horny. Imagine the sheer amount of sex you would have. Women get to do that if they are cursed with a sex drive close to an average man's.

>>102542773
Didn't she learn about her disease later in life?

>>102531611
Envy causes that yeah

>>102531611
BASED

>>102531432 (OP)
>2+ years later
Any reasonable NDA should've expired by now

>>102544794
Underrated

>>102550154
>Any reasonable NDA
It's pretty obvious that nothing about this company has been reasonable whatsoever

>>102550154
NDAs can last a decade and even be indefinite.
But, soon the company will not exist as an entity. Who's going to sue her?

>>102547868
>>102546041
https://files.catbox.moe/fr8gfg.webm

>>102535600
>the vshojo mob can no longer force sites to take this clip down
freedom

>>102550910
Hates everything related to vtubing, expect when vei is making money still through her avatar.

>>102552870
Yes we know soda is retarded

>>102552870
>expect when

>>102531611
We fucking hate Kurolive /here/

>>102554204
Phased!

>>102531611
Good. corrupt and greedy agencies deserve to be shat on.

>>102549545
Non-disparagement clauses are extremely common in entertainment industry contracts