https://x.com/sayusyn/status/1947833717374046587
TLDR Vshojo had serious talks with Sayu back when she was still Zaion

glad to see Sayu somehow found a way to make this about her.
She really has a natural gift at this

>>102566809
This but Nimi Nightmare

>>102566754 (OP)
Professional victim

>>102566809
TBF to Sayu it seems like Vshojo had a doctrine of trying recruit ANY ex-Holo or ex-Niji they possibly could

>How can I make this drama about me

>>102566809
Of course it was supposed to be about her, she was the one who gave GunRun the idea to have Matara and others on Vshojo. GunRun just """forgot""" to include her in the deal

>>102566754 (OP)
>Gunrun stole Sayu's plans for a Niji retirement home and left her out of it

>>102566809
she actually fucking did. I'm honestly impressed

Waaaaahhhh woe is me, ME ME ME!! This is the equivalent to interviewing for a job and not getting a call back. Get over yourself Sayu.

>It was my idea for Vshojo to hire all the ex-Nijis
lmao

>>102566754 (OP)
>vshojo falls
>time to euthanize my cat

>>102566754 (OP)
So I really wasn't a schizo to think VShojo saw the chance during the NijiEN fallout and was gonna poach them all. But I guess something stopped them after poaching Mysta

>Vshojo was poaching people from other corpos and telling them to shit on their corpo
Isnt this illegal?

>>102566809
>She really has a natural gift at this
It really makes her super unlikable, honestly.

>>102566754 (OP)
tl;dr
>suspended for shit by niji, not terminated yer
>goes to vshojo, pitches the idea to poach talents from niji
>admits she doesn't really know who else is ready to leave
>vshojo tells her they like her ideas and will contact her later
>gets terminated
>gets ghosted by vshojo after

>>102566975
So for /vt/ everyone can share their point of view about Vshojo, except Sayu, right?

>>102567018
In all seriousness, given Matara's zeal for trying to rescue other Nijis, I really wonder if, for the first six months, it really did seem like a dream come true for the roach mother?

>>102566754 (OP)
Why am I not surprised.
Fuck Gunrun, and fuck Niji.

>>102567046
You hate Shylily too I presume

>>102566754 (OP)

>>102567088
Sayu has been making everything about herself for so long, vying to be "allies" with the popular kids so much that it's genuinely insufferable. She's literally wanting to sit at the popular kids table no matter how much they reject her. It's pathetic and stupid to watch

>>102567140
I don't give a fuck about Shylily.

>>102567182
Nice double standards then

>>102567088
Pretty much. She has some dedicated schizos who trawl the board for any mention of her and then starts screaming "sincrocuck" if you say anything that isn't directly cursing her.

>>102566754 (OP)
I really hope she spoke with Matara before saying this or it'll blow back on her again.

You just know Sayu has 500 words already written and saved for the inevitable Phase yab and she will be all
>See, I did want to be with them for a time, but I knew it. This is how they harmed me by not making me an offer I liked. I was such an outcast eventhough their girls always collabed with me and helped me during my 60 day subathon.

>>102566754 (OP)
Wow Gunrun really was a shitty tech bro

>>102566754 (OP)
of course she's trying to make it about her just like she does with every single dramahappening. kek

>>102566809
>>102566867
This but every EN/JP holobox event where bijou was in so far (GTA, Minecraft, Palworld, ENreco 1, Mario Kart intro in the mainchannel).
And if there's an "Official Hololive Lore" ever released, she will try to lobby herself in as a "important and powerful but chaotic good and edgy character" the same way Kiara tried to.

>>102567359
How exactly? The roach wasn't involved in this at all from what I've read

I really wanna like her man, but the constant woe is me stream moments and twitter posts really make it difficult. She got shooed away by a shady business man, that happens to everyone.

Reminder that Geega and gunrun were irl acquaintances before vtubing or vshojo. She knows more than she lets on.

In all honesty she isn't the only one coming out of the woodwork. artists, composers, randoms, everyone share their VS-related experiences. She's just one of many.

>itt seethers seething about someone talking about her experiences on a public platform

>>102566809
I'm not even mad it's kinda impressive

>>102567237
surely this time it will make niji look like heroes

>>102567553
is she back to using this model again after her last corpo crashed and burned?

>>102567462
She's the third person in the group. The one who knew Gunrun personally and got them all in contact.

>>102567237
Isn't that the whole point of /vt/? To come watch the absolute worst degenerate antis spread lies?

>>102567637
Ye. She uses both now, but mostly uses the old one.

>>102567637
nope, she got the ugliest model ever with the worst-drawn navel and downs-spaced eyes. One eye is now covered by hair so it doesn't look that ugly but the navel is still terrible

>>102567553
It's been two and half fucking years and her identity has been tied to being a "victim", she can't just be entertaining on her own merits, she has to be the victim.

>>102567235
Your girl is not going to be popular with this retarded attitude. Change careers already.

>>102567837
I don't care if she gets popular
Seethe harder

>>102567823
>she can't just be entertaining on her own merits, she has to be the victim
Bingo. She hasn't learned to be entertaining, she just needs to be a victim.

>>102566809
Meet Victim Woman!

>>102567906
>I don't care if she gets popular
then why bother defend her? There's nothing worth defending.

>>102567982
Because I have a moral compass and ethical standards

>>102566754 (OP)
no offense but doesn't this just amount to auditioning but not getting in

>>102568072
yup

>>102567823
Well it's also been two and a half years and she's still excommunicated by her "friends" so

>>102567982
>the only reason someone would contradict me is because they are a fan, and are defending her
Hmm.

>>102567654
Not her, it was Kson or Yuniho.
Matara was still in Kurosanji when that happened.

>>102568022
how do you defend her doing 50 donothons where she sleeps and doesn't fulfill the rewards

>One of the first ever corpos to go indie
>all the ex corpos who came after end up much more successful while she's struggling
unironically what went wrong?
She had alot of support when she released the document, I don't get how her career just kind of petered out this bad.

>>102568170
she is just not very likable or endearing

>>102568170
She has a terrible personality and is menhera to an annoying degree.

>>102568170
This industry is all about who you know to prop you up.
She knew everybody, and everybody abandoned her when she was terminated, and will continue to ignore her.
There's nobody to really raid into her. Nobody big to collab with. She's effectively an island now with her own small group of 2-low3views because they're probably the only ones willing to still talk to her.

It's really fucked.

>>102566754 (OP)
>vshojo shit
>somehow still manages to make it about niji

>>102568170
I asked chatgpt

>>102568453

>>102568170
I gave her a chance but she never could move on from what happened to her at niji so i like many other moved on from watching her

>>102568650

>>102568453
>>102568650
Do you ask chatgpt to wipe your ass too?

>>102568170
She was also the only talent who was terminated in vanilla fashion ; it was justified and she wasn't graceful about it. It's like being in a relationship with someone who brings up that small thing you did 10 year ago to emotionally abuse you over and over again like "okay but remember that time when you-"

>>102568742
Just say you can't read

>>102568745
Eh? Selen's termination was about as equally justified by those standards. She told people to pirate her corp's IP

>>102567439
kys cuckling

>>102568170
Do you watch her streams? I did until I realized I'd rather watch someone less negative. I mean, all the power to her but when she doesn't like anything or anyone (game, chatters, movies, people, you name it) she will go out of her way to shit on it for minutes. When the 3rd game I kinda liked got the same treatment (simple 'Okay, this game is shit, I hate it, you're a retard for liking it' would be fine) - it getting roasted for like 15 minutes I was done.
Tried to watch her recent streams and I think she got even more bitter than back then.

>>102568446
Also, now thinking about it, this is just about her not getting hired by vshojo bc they saw her as a "brand risk" for getting herself terminated, and she still ends up proving them right by complaining about niji.

>>102566959
>>102566961
Reminds me of how few months ago she was buying a new house with her friends, painted the walls inside on stream and then ended up being left out from moving in to said apartment.
Or how last year she traveled to Japan with her friends and got ditched by them day1.

>All of the anti-Niji BS from the vshoujo talents was planned from the get go for promotion
I fucking knew it kek it felt so forced

>>102568105
People stop being friends. Friendship is not owed to you. You'll learn that when you leave elementary school.

>>102568968
Oh, and a disclaimer to be fair: she's happy and good to watch when she streams retro stuff but it's just not my cup of tea

>>102569061
Yeah but they usually don't all ghost you at once at the lowest point in your life, especially after making a big, public show of how much they love you a few months beforehand.

>>102568998
Starting to think she's the problem

>>102569074
>retro
>it's pokemon

>>102568998
>>102569227
I can only imagine if she behaves like this >>102568968 doing the activity that funds her like how she is in private with people when they tick her off.

>girl gets broken by the industry
>speaks out about all the shit she had to deal with
>/vt/ shits on her for it
Nyfco really did migrate here huh

>>102569252
pokemon concept has been stale for 30 years
Oh, also gachas. Gachas are shit by default. Except the horse game.

>>102569198
>sucking up to people you know are going to join a large corpo
it's just business, quite literally. these people are all snakes.

>>102569061
Yeah, this anon is right >>102569198
It's best we call these people acquaintances, mutuals, or simply - work friends.

>>102566754 (OP)
me too
me too
me too

>>102569342
*funds her life

>>102569371
She has been broken by the industry for 2 years. Literally her entire brand is being a victim of the industry. It's repetitive, boring, and not surprising anymore.

>>102569342
I used to be in her friend group but i've distanced myself from her. She was constantly lashing out but wouldn't apologize so I just stopped speaking to them.

>>102569540
>friend group
>work friends group
FTFY

>>102568170
Time and time again she'd do something blatantly stupid, her fans would warn her, and she'd proceed to lose her shit at them. Then the thing fans warned about would blow up in her face and she'd mope about it. Eventually, even the most dedicated Sincroknights just got sick of it and left.

>>102569371
Nah, your cunt just isn't likable and never has been. The only route she has left for any success is fansly. I might actually support her then

>>102569227
I never understood the savior complex some people had about her. She's been treated unfairly by corpos like Niji and Vshojo, yeah, but it's pretty fucking obvious a lot of her own troubles aside from that are a direct result of her own actions and behavior.

>>102569371
Nigga Nyfco was like the only place where you actually talk about this shit

>>102566754 (OP)
That actually explains a lot, damn!

>>102567182
not if Vshojo were the ones to reach out to her first

>>102566809
Based and true.

>>102566867
Sayu was married before it was cool.

>>102569885
I can only assume it's groomers because she genuinely has a terrible personality. Nijisanji (at least the EN side) treated her poorly for sure but it's no coincidence that she was terminated so soon. It was definitely partially her own dumbass fault.

>>102569371
No she is just incredibly hard to root for. It's like an alcoholic. You think they have finally turned a new leaf but then you are back to square one.

>>102568170
This >>102569659

>>102569371
>Sisters are known for using DARVO
>Everyone itt is using DARVO
I'm nooticing

>>102569412
unironically this has become a new trend today
>I wanted to join but didn't apply
>I was going to join but didn't
>I was accepted but bailed
/lig/ has been full of them today just begging for attention because the idea of joining crossed their mind once or twice

>>102570085
Has she done anything of importance besides look stupid on /vt/?

>>102570242
What the fuck is darvo?

>>102570338
It's all for the drama numbers and clout.

>>102566809
girl couldn't just take a victory lap or pop into quinn's replies to second what he was saying, she really had to pull off another fifty page menhera rant

>>102568170
She's not interesting and a bitch. Even if you go in with an open mind sayu will drive you away.

>>102568139
Oh you mean like Ironmouse? Faggot. Kys.

>>102568968
The tipping point for me was when NOA pulled the exact same move nijisanji did to to sayu to one of their pre-debuts, and Sayu joined up anyway knowing what they did.

>>102570400
Since you can't Google it for yourself I'll spell it out for you

Deny
Attack
Reverse Victim and Offender

>>102569371
you only realized that now?

>>102567744
What's up with that whole NOA thing? Genuine question I never really followed it up because I think it felt it wasn't a very grounded idea.

>>102570562
oh so you can't? shame.

>>102568968
She'll chimp out at one of her viewers every night or bait drama with other creators over anything under the sun but has somehow tolerated piprup for two years

>>102570552
gatekeeping is good though

>>102570635
Sounds like an excuse to accuse people of being something and then when they deny it you just say theyre darvoing

>>102570695
Tldr a company offered her basically a blank check and she would tailor her contract to fit her needs
/Vt/ gave her shit for joining a Chinese corpo and continued to do so despite her assurances that she will be fine
Company shut down recently, she and the other girls who joined got out without any drama, but /vt/ can't admit they were wrong so they continue to call the company a scam corpo

>>102570884
Also to add, the company shut down operations simply because they couldn't figure out a plan to expand in the English speaking market
That's it, no explosive scandal or anything

>>102571133
I thought onboarding Sayu WAS the plan to expand in the English market, no?

>>102571222
Yes, but they didn't have anything after that

>>102571222
According to Sayu they said that their expertise in Bilibili couldn't translate over well to the English platforms, which discouraged them from working on YT/Twitch

So my understanding is that they did not try to poach her unlike kyo, it was her going to Gunrun to suggest the said poaching, he agreed but left her out of it? Is that right? Sorry I'm a little retarded.

>>102571470
Yeah that's the basic jist. She was gonna be /in/ up until the termination went nuclear on her reputation

>>102571261
>>102571368
Ahh I see, wasn't aware of that. Thanks for the info

>>102571556
So she is not one of the 'other ex talent' kyo aka quinn was talking about. Poor girl never had any chance of getting in even before her fight with matara.

>>102571574
Glad I could help, just don't be one of the retards that kick decent people while they're down even if they've been down for two years

>>102567823
yeah anon people feel motivated to watch streamers that act like victims. you understand human psychology so fukcing well

>>102571682
Yeah, I'm thinking the "someone would veto me" comment she made never was Matara at all. It was Gunrun...

>>102566754 (OP)
With all that was going on, Vshojo dodged a bullet.

>>102566754 (OP)
I would bankrupt myself to listen to her masturbating.

>>102570884
>>102571133
Damn that actually sucks, I'm glad nothing went wrong and she at least got a bag.

Imagine if Sayu had joined, Vsj would've imploded a lot sooner as she cannot keep her mouth shut lmao

>>102572153
Would that have been a bad thing?

>>102572153
>Whistleblower calling out Niji
:D
>Same whistleblower calling out Vshojo
>:(

>>102566809
>>102566867
>>102566909
>>102566937
NDF sisters are so insane they would defend Gunrun in this circumstance, insane.

>>102572100
Funnily enough she said that NOA treated her quite well despite closing down

>>102567553
They like to do this with every ex-niji. Binted mindset.

>>102572197
>>102572296
On top of this, many other talent would possibly be exposed

>>102566809
Other chuubas are giving their stories about vshojo. Why do you single her out?

>>102572412
Nbinted has taken Mouse's side, writing:

>As a VTuber agency, you're literally nothing without the VTubers.

>Not one of these parasites that take vast chunks of what their VTubers earn can do anything without them. If you can't afford to pay them what they're worth, you can't afford to exist.

>>102566754 (OP)
impeccable way to censor silvers name
https://gyazo.com/634461b48195bbe23076261c2f388d09

Tldr: This woman tried hard to badmouth her old company, hoping to secure a good spot in the new one, but they saw she had issues and dodged the bullet. Now she has the chance to cry about it, cry about how evil Vshojo was for denying her, even though she went all out using her old company.

>>102572612
>the one that doesn't like to deal with shit like this
KEK

>>102572568
Because Sayu gets a reaction out of people, and also Sayu's big mouth gives us insights that more tactful voices might deny us.

>>102568170
I originally tried to support Sayu after the Niji thing, but every time I saw her on my subscribe bar on Twitch she was listed as "I'mOnlySleeping". Dropped my support after.

>>102572670
Mint is giving similar insights right now

>>102566754 (OP)
why does she switch between talking in first and third person?

>>102572640
That's a crazy spin even for vt dwellers

>>102570881
I don’t know if you’ve noticed, but 90% of the time you disagree with someone here they will just call you a nijisister.

>>102572737
I hate ironmouse and ludwig for popularizing subathons. Vtubers don't even try anymore, they just sleep on stream and stream normally while calling it a subathon. Worst of all they don't even fulfill the rewards. Actual scam artists.

>>102567365
Is Sayu a lolcow?

>>102573286
She always has been.

>>102573286
Yes

>>102566754 (OP)
Nothingburger lmao. You sucks probably sayu

>>102569371
Obviously

>>102573286
Nope

Holy shit can this bitch be any more desperate for attention? Was bad enough seeing Nimi use this drama to cuck her entire audience, and other vshojo members just only now suddenly talking about having issues with the company that has been over a year now, but this is just peak attention whoring. I bet she seethes at how popular mint and doki got, meanwhile she’s barely a 3 view.

>>102572872
She's retarded and thinks it's a magic technique that makes her impervious to lawsuits. A lot of people have tried it, I've noticed.
In reality, it's becoming clear that they're simply waiting for her and others like her to continue shooting themselves in the foot like this. Making it more and more of a slam dunk when it actually goes to court.

>>102573230
>the one streamer that does uses an A.I.
Guess there's a reason AI chatbots has been the rage for years

>>102574693
How many times do you need to be reminded that the truth is an absolute defense in american courts?

>>102572612
Okay but this is probably just edited

>>102575415
Then she should be worried considering how many times she's been caught lying.

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>>102575735
Yeah, sure thing, sis. I'm sure they're gathering lawyers as we speak from the nearest high school.

>>102575735
Sure, and you have all that proof about her lying, right?

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>>102568170
I just don't like pokemon or genshin

why is everyone doing this now? we're they just waiting? why do vtubers and orbiters wait until something big happens and dogpile?

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Are sisters STILL mad about the rape joke?

>>102577256
They're mad about her simply existing

>>102576900
They were waiting for confirmation that Gunrun's cheque to his lawyers bounced

>>102576900
Because they can't do anything.
GunRun and Vshojo would obvious retaliate in normal circunstances

>>102576900
Yes

>>102576900
Because if you don't, you get Zaion'd like Sayu did.

>>102576900
yes, it's called a woman moment. they need something to be popular and safe to do something.

>>102566809
*grift

>>102566809
it is pretty funny. it could be like >yagoo was found to be having an affair with several holostars type news and sayu would still have some kind of big drop about how actually this was all very relevant to her.

>>102578675
I don't understand the issue, she is relevant to this issue so why can't she talk about it?

>>102578719
it's a joke you dip. she's like the vtuber illuminati or something in that she has some personal connection to everything.

>>102578789
My bad, hard to read your tone from just text

I know nobody here cares but she was talking about it and I'm very surprised that she was very mature about it

>>102566754 (OP)
>>102566809
>>102566909
>>102566953
ME ME ME ME ME ME ME

>>102566754 (OP)
I'm half convinced that Sayu makes these threads herself to boost engagement or something.
They always have the same screenshot format and a body with twitter link first, then subject text.

>>102568170
>unironically what went wrong?
just a few things >>101146786

>>102570819
she started grooming him when he wasn't an adult yet, and now he's her perfect little attack dog

>>102580245
Despite what /vt/ schizos say, she doesn't actually want drama. She's gotten a lot better mentally over the past 2 years.

>She wants more cases like Nimi where female vtubers aren't afraid to reveal their relationships

awful

>>102568105
friends she likes to take for granted, like Shiina or Renniesaurus

>>102566754 (OP)
How the actual hell does Sayu somehow manage to be involved in every other drama in the entire VTuber world?

>>102580901
Pre-niji, Sayu was VERY connected in the industry
Post-niji/during suspension she was desperate and tried to join basically everywhere through whatever few connections she still had.
So she knows a lot about a lot of places.

>>102580901
She had a much bigger role in saving ex-Nijis than anyone thought

>>102572612
GRIM

>>102572568
because she's a dramafag

>>102580639
>she doesn't actually want drama.
twitchtracker proves you wrong.
>drama
ccv incline
>no drama
ccv nosedive

>>102581139
Anon that applies to literally everybody.

>>102570635
huh, TIL, thanks, looks like sisters love using it a lot, even more if it's against female nijis

>>102581172
no, there are plenty of vtubers who'll just block/ban you for drama mongering without saying a word back

>>102581657
Doesn't matter. Everyone leaps in the moment drama happens to watch shit burn.
Then when drama dies down they leave.

>>102581842
my oshi hasn't and will never say a word about this
I won't name her because I don't want the psychoknights to attack her