>Views are massively dropping down
What's going on with Saba? For someone who used to be seen as the queen of Vtubing I was expecting her honeymoon phase to last a bit longer.

the queen of vtubing is ironmouse, you retarded newfag

Her model is shit
Sorry

>>102584185 (OP)
It's the Nimi backlash.

>>102584185 (OP)
she said she'd take the day off yesterday but still streamed which was unexpected and jeopardized a lot of kanis who made plans that day

>>102584265
This, and also people realizing she's just boring to watch.

>>102584292
>vtuber fans
>plans
gooning sesh doesn't count as "plan"

>>102584250

Post again when she does her karaoke and get 500k views minimum. Oh wait suddenly the # orangutan won't do that.

>>102584185 (OP)
She’s boring + abandoned her fanbase for too long and they found new oshis + novelty wore off

>>102584413
Do you watch anime in 259p? Why is this so small?

>>102584185 (OP)
I'm going to be real my family
Her old mascot-shark design was way cuter and more friendly to normans.

>>102584185 (OP)
>debut
>go super hard on fanservice
>your fans are very happy
>twitterfags are seething
>bend over to twitterfags
>spit on your fans as you censor your animations and retcon your height
>your fans leave
>what the fuck how could this ever happen

On top of what the anons said, I think she also got shadowbanned. I remember some of her videos being demonetized too.

there's only so long you can coast on legacy, by today's standards she's a pretty basic vtuber

>>102584532
The tummy could have been more of a YouTube censorship thing, the height is unfortunately pandering to twitter freaks.

>Back to her regularly numbers
What's the problem here? Everyone saw this coming, because it happened to all of them

>>102584752
It doesn't help either if she's so lazy.
She was even supposed to upload a complete animation and didn't even do that.
She really seems to not care much.

>>102584185 (OP)
Was a guerrilla stream. She was supposed to have the day off.
Check back later for the number of views of that stream.

Saba deciding to stream on her planned day off is worth noting.

>>102584185 (OP)
Many fans were watching drama channels during this time. Something about a mouse and the end of a vtuber corporation.

>>102584185 (OP)
the magic is gone because she streams too much

>>102584532
tummyschizo you already lost

>>102584532
on top of this she just got in close with nimi who just literally went "for literally no reason at all and to noone's benefit besides people who fucking hate my fans and Holo's model, I want to tell you I'm getting married, teehee pero oopsie poopsie thanks for your support <3"

the indie avengers thing lasted the meme amount, 2 weeks, before it was clearly demonstrated just why indies are so fucking inferior to holo. it definitely helps snap people out of the cope of "it's literally the same as they were as holos, we didn't really lose much they still count"

>>102584920
they can't acknowledge that she's streaming on her day off that'd ruin their lazy narrative

>>102584185 (OP)
She associated with Nimi

>>102584185 (OP)
>For someone who used to be seen as the queen of Vtubing
She was queen in an era where vtubing was just breaking mainstream territory, the market has been expanded and there are talents who do her shtick way better. All that's left going for her is nostalgia, and once it's over there's not much else to look her for.

>>102584250
>the queen of oxygen tubing is ironmouse
fixed that for you

>>102584333
I don't get why she sounds so tired in her streams. I didn't every Gura's stream but I don't recall her sounding so under the weather.

>>102584185 (OP)
Is she sick or something? She barely has energy to speak

>>102585412
She turns her AC off before she starts the stream and only has a fan running during the stream, so the longer she streams the hotter it gets in her room

>>102585119
>the indie avengers thing lasted the meme amount, 2 weeks, before it was clearly demonstrated just why indies are so fucking inferior to holo. it definitely helps snap people out of the cope of "it's literally the same as they were as holos, we didn't really lose much they still count"
kek
beautiful

>>102584265
Rigging is great tho

>>102584265
Sad but true. No idea why she didn't just keep using the shark model and fix the rigging.

>>102585119
>for literally no reason at all
It makes perfect sense, it's inevitable that people will find out sooner or later some way or another so it's better to just get it out of the way now. And if she's going to have a family it'd just be a fucking pain in the ass to try to hide it all.

>>102584185 (OP)
>why doesn't a stream from today have as many views as a stream from week ago

>>102585814
It has less than half the views of the VOD from yesterday.

>>102585862
yeah and tomorrow it will have the same views. that's how time works

Oversaturated their own market by debuting a bunch of yellow and green excorpo women all in the same block, with the same personality, mannerisms, attitude, model design,casual streaming style, game choices, and then put themselves in a click and all collabed with each other which only served to heighten the impression of how mediocre and commonplace their existence is. The audience has no drive and motivation to come out to see them because they can now be taken for granted.

>>102585761
And this is why indies are a fucking joke. You wouldn't be saying this about girls employed by a company.

>>102584185 (OP)
I'll be the one to say it.
Unironically pandered to lolicons a bit too hard this time around.

retarded game choice

>>102585887
Yesterday's VOD had more views after the stream was over compared to this one, anon.

>>102585895
this but all vtubers

>pedophile viewers dont watch streams
Heh, who woulda thought

>>102585898
Why wouldn't I? You'd still have to be a mother to your children even if you were in a corpo.

>>102585925
No really? A 5 hour stream with 17k viewers gets more views than a 2 hour stream with 14k. Who would have thought

>>102585925
Those are just the live views. Tomorrow it will have the same views after the people who missed have caught up

>>102585968
>set up an office at home
>close the door while you're working
>don't talk about your personal life
And if you want to focus on raising children then fucking retire. Alas, I shouldn't be surprised that even this is an impossible task for worthless foids.

>>102585761
If she wants to start a family why did she even come back to begin with? Makes no sense to me.

>>102585907
>GODtendo's latest masterpiece
>retarded game choice
of course the seachimps here wouldn't know any better

>>102585119
It can be, but what if it go to opposite way?

>>102586101
>GODtendo's latest masterpiece
tendietroons are mentally ill

>>102584185 (OP)
I enjoy her shitposting more than her stream
that's why

>>102586070
To make money for her family?

>>102586160
She hasn't been shitposting since her Senzawa days.

>>102584265
based

>>102586166
That's her husband's job. Even if you're a faggy new-age third-wave feminist ally, she's already rich enough to retire and raise her children without worry for their financial future.

>>102584185 (OP)
This was basically her viewership in Holo. At this point the drama tourists hoping for some drama have left. This has happened to all of them. Don't see how it's unusual.

>>102584265
Rather than being shit, I'd say it's painfully generic. It's not as iconic as the Gura model. Literally forgettable

>>102586211
she can play video game once a month and probably make more money than him she would be dumb to throw it away for no reason

>>102586211
That's bullshit and you know it. There's no fucking way you'd make your own wife drop an easy source of income for antiquated idiocy.
>she's already rich enough to retire and raise her children without worry for their financial future
There's not a single vtuber who's that rich

>>102584185 (OP)
>Saba gets high numbers
>she's botted

>Saba get good numbers
>she's failing

>uses "streams" argument for years to dismiss her
>Saba streams
>doesn't watch it and complains anyway

>Saba gets Youtube front page
>nooo too much of an advantage

>>102586499
>There's no fucking way you'd make your own wife drop an easy source of income for antiquated idiocy
If that were true, Fauna would obviously still be in Hololive.

>>102586358
She just did throw it away though, you think many of her fans will stick around for barely 1 stream a month and not just move on to someone else? Especially knowing that the money they'll give her will just further support her inactivity as a streamer? Doesn't sound likely.
Raising a kid is fucking exhausting, I'd be highly surprised if she wouldn't milk her fans wallets dry as much as she can and then quit vtubing altogether right as her advanced pregnancy hits.

>>102584185 (OP)
Her design is bad compared to Gura, she doesn't give off the same vibe anymore, she had to stay in hololive

>>102586572
It would've been better if her design had a clear identity instead of being a weird cat/fish abomination

>>102584250
>whoremouse
>queen
Yeah, queen of grifting.

>>102584250
Fpbp
OP BTFO

>>102584185 (OP)
Only the most delusional of chumbuds thought she would have the same pull as Gura.
Hell, reducing her audience to more manageable levels is half of the reason she left Hololive in the first place.

>>102586501
Welcome to this shithole. There are so many fags here that are iether only here for the (you) or are so disingenuous because they want to bolster whatever fag girl they fell in love with.
This board is an e-celeb board in disguise and should get killed off.

>>102584265
so she'll need to deploy the mommy model soon

>>102586866
What disguise?

>>102584185 (OP)
She is yesterday's news.

>>102586501
Saba/Gura's antis are infamous for being pathetic shitbags.

>>102584185 (OP)
this happens to everything thats "new" not even just vtubers. its normal and youre massively retarded

>>102584824
Her regular numbers were 350k. She's already strugging to get that within a month since debut

>>102586525
She's already in her 30s, anon. She chose getting a family and not having to worry about travelling over the money she will still need to make.

She ghosted her fanbase for most of the last 3 years. She should have just graduated in 2023.

The only remarkable thing about her was the fact she didn't stream. Now that she does, she is just another bland indie added to the pile.

>>102587476
Would be nice to graduate when you want from a corpo.
She worked on 'Ash Again' while in the queue.

Just be thankful that Cover isn't able to keep leeching off of her anymore.

>>102587688
She would've faded into irrelevance without Cover. The brand of videos she made were starting to fall off and her streams were lucky tog et a few hundred viewers.

>>102584185 (OP)
cumchuds aren't used to their oshi actually streaming

>>102584185 (OP)
The idol experience its a big part of what makes Hololive, also she had effectively retired for like 3 years. She threw all her potential away.

>>102584265
Her model is too on the nose and reeks of desperation to retain her viewers from post-gura

>>102584514
Yeah, Gura was cute but was also someone you could put on a billboard. Saba, not so much. Anyway she wanted a smaller audience, so she got it.

>This time she is actually finished and her popularity is over
I have seen this arc before even as Gura is not happening her choice of content is just being bad
>BUT IS EPIC MONKEY GAME
This shit is not getting good numbers even on Twitch is a fun to play but not fun to watch game like Tears of the kingdom,
her debuff content is around 12k-15k and then she will finally pick something people want to watch and get a 20k stream.....is a loop that will just repeat forever

>>102584514
Yeah, it was peak design and not over-the-top. Saba's design is excessively moe.

>>102588127
I have little reason to care. She will not be at any major concerts nor have huge cameos

>>102585761
It wouldn't have mattered. Anything other than a direct confirmation like this could easily be written off as a rrat.

>>102585356
i don't think streaming was ever something that she was all that passionate about. she was always a normie and when pandemic was in full swing she couldn't leave the house so she just had nothing better to do.
once she had made enough money and the pandemic was over she went into the good old "I'm going to do a couple of shill streams and then be on vacation for a month" which continued for the last 3 years until her graduation.

>>102584185 (OP)
Everyone's looking to her now after what happened with Nimi, wondering whether the floodgates truly have been opened. There'll be some reservations for a while.