>Wanted to be an idol
>Joins a western agency where fans hate idols and idol culture
Is she retarded?

>*i believed dumb shit a retard wrote in /#/*
adorable

>>102591046 (OP)
>Leaves a JP corpo known for doing idol shit because some American corpo told her sweet little lies and said she'd do idol shit there

Yes. She is retarded

"idol" just means appearing at a concert
it has no relation to traditional idol culture when westerners do it

Niji isn’t western. What other agency did she join?

>>102591282
Niji's idol shit is nothing to brag about.
What they did for EN was beyond scuffed. Embarrassing.

>>102591330
idol culture is the most artificial facade in entertainment. even more so than reality tv. to believe there is something genuine about it just shows how much corporations have melted your brain
>idol just means appearing at a concert
is correct for idols everywhere

why does /vt/ lie

>>102591368
The vshoujocucks are still on GunRun's payroll?

>>102591282
>Leaves a JP corpo known for cancelling her opportunity to do a collab with jp idols

>>102591486
>poorly-argued, unwarranted hostility to a mostly unbiased post

>>102591638
By mint's own words, it was for an understandable reason. Imagine getting duped by GunRun's lies

>>102591046 (OP)
Saba approved now so I don't give a shit unless she commits crimes.

>Join JP corpo
>They fuck you over
>Join EN corpo
>They fuck you over
Perhaps corpos are simply shit

>>102591882
Kill yourself, commie

>>102591882
>Join worst JP corpo
>Join worst EN corpo
Maybe just pick better? Phase Connect is still here, they started doing idol concerts, basically Hololive but without JP corpo bullshit

>>102591882
Ok, Johnny

>>102592034
0.6%

>>102591046 (OP)
See, she's not Hololive material.

>>102592199
0.6% is the corpo that let her do an idol concert at one of the biggest anime conventions in the world.
go figure.

>>102591046 (OP)
VShojofags always hated "idolshit" so this was never going to work
Minto will need a miracle at this point if she wants to fulfill her idol dream as an indie, or she can just join hololive I guess

>>102592225
>Retarded
She is literally perfect

>>102591046 (OP)
Phase Connect was literally right there ready to give her everything she ever wanted, and it was right when they started getting serious with idol concert. She bet on the wrong horse again.
It is hysterical that all these exNIJIs picked wrong the first time together, then they all fell for it again together. At least Dokibird isn't stupid.

>>102592270
>thinks she is too good for NIJISANJI and bails
>those who stayed loyal got to do an idol show in front of a sold out arena in Japan
>snubs Phase Connect and bet on Vshojo giving her idol concerts
>it falls thru and
>meanwhile Phase Connect provides their talents with idol stuff traditionally you can only do in hololive, all while being the underdog company

Did I miss something? Was it revealed that Mint was the other Niji Kyo convinced to leave with him

>>102592834
Yeah let her join Doxx Connect, if anyone in phase will see her as a threat they will just ask for help from kiwifarmers to destroy her. Great idea

>>102591046 (OP)
VshojoJP has a connection to an idol company, Dearstage

>>102591699
"Understanding the reason" doesn't mean she agreed with the reason. The "reason" was probably "we want to focus on Noctyx right now".

>>102591046 (OP)
Maria is living the idol dream in japan while pomus cunt rots away. All you had to do was stay and not fall for vpoacho lies.

>>102593355
>if anyone in phase will see her as a threat
this is not how phase connect operates, sister. it is like a cult. they genuinely all believe it is phase connect vs. the world and when one girl gets to do something cool and show off, that she is repping all of them.

the ones that didn't believe aren't on the figurative bus anymore.

>>102593342
No, it's just catalogfags inventing rrats. Mint's proposal to join Vshojo happened mid-2024.

>>102593463
>Who is Rye

>>102591486
idolfags know its all just lies
they're okay with it
they want to be lied to
failure to understand this and clutching pearls instead is a sign of low IQ

>>102591046 (OP)
She’s a fake idol “oh yeah I love cute things and idols.” Meanwhile colllabs with men and whored herself out year ago here

>>102593486
>Mint's proposal to join Vshojo happened mid-2024
And it wasn't even their proposal, she pitched the whole idea to Vshojo. But of course to know that one needs to watch streams, and spread some bullshit on the catalog is way easier

>>102592733
>anon doesn't like the truth and calls it retarded
Cope more. Never was Holo material, never will be.

>>102592834
>It is hysterical that all these exNIJIs picked wrong the first time together, then they all fell for it again together. At least Dokibird isn't stupid.
it do be like that. when it is the same people getting scammed over and over, take a look in the mirror

>>102591046 (OP)
yep. in the end, women do be women. there's no escaping their genes

>>102593463
What a crock of shit. Pipniggers have hard doxxed Pippa's own coworkers in the past.

>>102594887
>Stop noticing

>>102592199
99% of shitposts tho

>>102591282
Hello, Sister.

>>102591046 (OP)
Leave her alone! She wanted to bring the magic of idols to the west. What's wrong with having a dream? YOU'RE the retarded one, let people follow their dreams, it's people like you that inhibit progress, if everyone was like you, nothing would ever happen, people would just be miserable fucks like you. Fuck off and let people follow their hearts so they can change the world.

>>102597309
West will never accept idols, her best bet was Hololive, sadly she fumbled

>>102591046 (OP)
She joined Nijisanji as a woman...
So the answer is YES

>>102598333
Nijisanji JP women were able to persue idol activities, and the company was getting them record label deals, 3D concerts, collabs with idol groups, etc. She didn't think Nijisanji would shit the bed on doing the same for EN.

>>102593546
Sister...

>>102591046 (OP)
>Wanted to be an idol
>off-collabed with men
yes, she is

>>102591548
You can hate both corpos, yknow?

>>102593342
The other people were Hex and Zaion, but Quinn consistently refuses to acknowledge the wrongdoings he did against Zaion so he said there was only 2 people reached out about. Silver voted yes to let Zaion join, and then poisoned the well against Quinn (smart choice) to prevent him from joining.

>>102603624
>Hex
Today he said that he applied via the auditions, he wasn't scouted

Just saying, having a 3D concert once a year doesn't make one an idol. If that was it, ironlung is an idol too

>>102603713
How many concerts makes you an idol?

>>102603713
How many do you need then, 2? Because that's what Holo talents typically get and they're regarded as idols.

>>102603713
It was a disaster of a concert

>>102603713
By this metric, Enna is more of an idol than Mint

>>102606114
Not really, Mint has had a ton more concert appearances than Enna.

>>102606182
Wrong

>>102607720
Nope. Go ahead, list all of Enna's concerts.

>>102591046 (OP)
its all a persona anon.

>>102592034
If your takeaway from the past several years of EN vtubing is
>Phase is one of the good ones
rather than
>Phase is good at pretending to be one of the good ones
then you've learned all of the wrong lessons. Every single corpo is constantly fighting to keep their closet full of skeletons closed by any means necessary, and you're a fool if you think Phase is somehow any different.

>>102591046 (OP)
>Is she retarded?
of course she is, but it's also karma, her only chance was to join hololive and she let her ego get in the way of it

this was the curse of /b/

>>102593342
mint made an extremely bad bet and it blew up in her face, she was a stealth member of vshojo for a year, wasn't paid for any of her merch, all of her plans with the company have died

>>102603713
mint herself said her dream was to be an idol, she just refused to commit to hololive after nijisanji, as if luna didn't have a complete career turnaround

western girls have really bruised egos, that's why KSON is crashing out, they can't accept they made a mistake

>>102609230
She didn't join hololive because she saw how good Myth was and knew she would never be able to make the cut.

>>102609460
as a streamer she isn't that good, but she is a decent dancer, hololive would have given her a great life, but she chose every bad end possible

>>102591046 (OP)
It is complete. In my mind cute and retarded are officially synonyms.

>>102609663
In fairness, Nijisanji and Hololive are probably close enough to each other to accept non compete clauses in their contracts, so that idea probably wouldn’t pan out even if they still accept collabs due to leaving Niji on good terms. It’s still a woefully naive idea though to think that she would have been able to accomplish any idol dream at Vshojo, especially when they weren’t considered an idol agency at all and some fans even prided on it I think.

>>102609663
>as a streamer she isn't that good
Then Hololive would never hire her, making her assumption correct.

>>102609908
hololive is prioritizing their live event girls over their streamers nowadays anon

>>102609822
>It’s still a woefully naive idea though to think that she would have been able to accomplish any idol dream at Vshojo, especially when they weren’t considered an idol agency at all and some fans even prided on it I think.
VshojoJP has direct connection to a JP idol company (Dearstage) and they got their NOVA girls signed to a record label (UMG). Mint said she's been doing all her work with VshojoJP, so her idol gen project would have been under them.

>>102609822
luna joined hololive no problem after she left nijisanji, just had a time frame to wait

>>102610004
Not on the EN side, just look at Justice. Only 1 of the 4 can sing.

>>102609908
>HoloEN
>stream

>>102610079
i think justice was kiara's experimental gen, they probably wont do it again

>>102610066
And then they saw the aftermath of how fans reacted (and still do to this day), and agreed to never do it again.

>>102591486
oof, imagine being this much of a sheltered westerner

>>102610241
eh, there's not that much butthurt still remaining

>>102609460
>she saw how good Myth was
...bait?

>>102591046 (OP)
Why didn't she joined Phase? They were literally right there in her face!

>>102591046 (OP)
Yes.

>>102591046 (OP)
she only wanted the idol money

No one likes Phase Connect, retards.

>>102610844
Weird considering she didn't complain about not getting paid until the company had went up in flames.

>>102610844
Idols don't make money, their owners do.

>>102611648
liggerseethe

>>102591046 (OP)
>Is she retarded?
Yes since a young age

>>102603713
that's what i say about most holos, like the total time they spend performing songs on stage is less than 3 hours in a year (counting every possibility except getting a very rare sololive or the world tour) and yet they do the whole idol spiel.

>>102612222
>less than 3 hours in a year
You think they just randomly go on stage and fuck around without having a single idea what they're doing?
Those 3 hours appearances on stage take months of preparation and professional learning, they work their asses off for you so they can give you the best performance you can get in those 3 hours. That's what it means to be an idol and that's what it means to have an oshi.

>>102591046 (OP)
VShojo made a JP branch

>>102610862
True, Mint being in phase would just cratered her popularity

>>102619387
>would just cratered
howdy eslchama

>>102603812
Real idol fans don't consider hololive to be idols.