So, you're telling me, EVERYONE knew about the shit happening there FOR YEARS, not only Vshojo talents, but many nijis and ex-nijis and indies, AND NOBODY SAID A THING?
Nobody thought "hey, that's not right, it's not an okay situation, it's not something we should be doing" and said something? And now, when everything's in flames everyone suddenly shits on Vshojo? And people praise those whores for being "brave"?

>>102599623 (OP)
what part of non disclosure agreement you don't understand?

>>102599623 (OP)
I keep wondering how many months without paying was kson whe she did this stream

>>102599713
And the nda expired the moment shitting on vshojo got popular?
Also, nda doesn't apply when it tries to silence whistleblowers, illegal stuff and misconducts.
Eat shit.

It's better to let your competition shoot themselves in the foot, and then farm sympathy when things blow up

It's total bullshit man. Even an "illegal" tier NDA can only go so far in suppressing communication.
If Nyan Veibae and Silver all could be like "guys this contract looks fucking batshit, let's have a lawyer look over this", then you cannot fucking pretend that they were all magically gagged.

Mouse is the most sus person here for obvious reasons, but she will never face any consequences anyway to it's basically a moot point.

>>102600410
the "nda" expired when the mouse talked, if nobody was talking before was because they were scared of her

>>102600595
convenient, huh.

>>102600410
Dont think, girls brave

>>102599623 (OP)
Women being women. Can’t take accountability until one of them starts talking.

>>102599623 (OP)
>OP's pic
Gets me all the time.

matara was complaining about about old niji merch of her still in stores while getting fucked by her own current company with merch payment delays kek

>>102599623 (OP)
They hoped that VShojo could turn the ship around

>>102603307
>I CAN CHANGE HIM!!!
Women

>>102599623 (OP)
Someone should edit this to show things under cons:

>>102599623 (OP)
Apparently they have no problem gaslighting their talents into thinking it was a good idea.

>>102599623 (OP)
Wrong pic, ftfy

>>102599623 (OP)
They all were waiting on huge sums of money that they finally realized was never coming. Someone is absolutely going to jail over this.

>>102599713
>company doesn't pay employees for a year
>you, a professional bootlicking retard: b-but muh nda..

>>102599713
You're braindead if you think an NDA is enough to stop actual malpractice. Even if you signed a contract that contract can be rendered void by a legal court, you just have to challenge it. A lot of people think that just because they signed something you are powerless, and have no rights... that's the dumbest thing ever.

>>102599623 (OP)
If they want to get turned into Sayu 2.0 then yeah. Being the first to blow the warning sign if you are not BIG enough will have people doubt you and fans of the corpo attack you. Plus all/most companies will refuse to work with you due to leaking sensitive company info. The only reason this got big is MOUSE IS easily one of the top 3 most influential vtubers.

>>102600337
this was like 3 days after she joined, bug retard

Kson should reincarnate as a clown next time

>>102600477
the contract looked perfect, every talent says so and most had layers look over it. the problem was that vshojo did not pay them the money they were owned.

>>102604813
>>102605404
They couldn't talk to each other about not getting paid due to the NDA. Each of them likely thought "the company is stiffing me for some reason, but I hope the others doing well"
And their thought processes for the previous graduations thus far probably went kinda like this:

Matara: I'm leaving Vshojo in a few weeks
The girls (including Kuro, who is an honorary "girl"): Damn, that sucks. But at least she can keep being Matara, and we can keep interacting with her. Nothing's changing for her but the letterhead, and I wish her well.

Geega: I'm leaving Vshojo in a few weeks
The girls: Damn, that sucks. But at least she can keep being Geega, and we can keep interacting with her. Nothing's changing for her but the letterhead, and I wish her well.

Zentreya: I'm leaving Vagina in a few weeks. *facepalm* Vshojo. I'm leaving Vshojo, not Vagina. In a few weeks I will be leaving Vagina. ..... Fuck's sake.
The girls: Damn, that sucks, and my eyebrow is raised in curiosity due to one of the founders leaving. But at least she can keep being Zen, and we can keep interacting with her. Nothing's changing for her but the letterhead, and I wish her well. Also her TTS had another brainfart lol.

Ironmouse: I'm leaving Vshojo effective immediately
The girls: Wait, what? Immediately? What the hell happened?
Ironmouse: The company owes me a shit ton of money and hasn't paid me for months
The girls: Oh, so it's not just me. Wait a minute, might that be why Matara and Geega and Zen left?
Ironmouse: Also the company didn't give the subathon money to charity like they promised in writing
The girls: They did WHAT!?!?!?

>47 hours later
You Are Here

>>102599623 (OP)
shit like this is why women shouldn't allowed to make independent decisions

>>102599623 (OP)
yea that is how grifting goes

>>102608462
Men were involved in this as well Not everyone in this corpo is a woman.

>>102607318
talent freedom? more like talent gaslighting!

>>102607318
>They couldn't talk to each other about not getting paid due to the NDA.
You have negative iq if you think this is true.

>>102610329
It's funny because we have literally direct testimony from Veibae and Nyanners that they talked to each other about their psychotic contracts which is what made them hire a lawyer to look at it in the first place, which ultimately caused them to leave.

Fucking retards thinking NDA means literal gag order on simple private conversations with co-workers LMAO.
Anything to absolve Grifterrat of any responsibility for being the head-honcho for this pyramid scheme.

>>102599623 (OP)
Ain't it like Machinima in the olden days?

>>102599623 (OP)
I think Kson really feel ashamed that she was the one who always pushed the most the narrative that Vshojo is flawless. As evidenced by her tweeting "yeah go on mock me I don't care".
I checked 5chan and they're also mocking her for shilling Vshojo too much.
Her Japanese blood must tell her to commit seppuku now

>>102610813
>yeah go on mock me I don't care

>>102605957
Sayu had everything going wrong for her.
She was in multiple controversies, said some questionable stuff on stream, and wasn't the most likeable person.
Say what you want about Ironmouse, but she doesn't really get into drama, I specifically remember her stopping Connor when he was saying that shit about hololive.
For her to go out of her way and do this, it means that it must be serious and trustworthy.

>>102610529
>I believe what women say!
Mein Gott in Himmel, you are beyond salvation.

>>102599623 (OP)
YOU DONT GET IT
THERE WAS SO MUCH FREEDOM
LOOK AT MY GELATIN TITS AND ASS

>>102611064
Sayu was actually very likeable before the termination but it's very easy to forget because she was there for like 3 months

>>102611125
So you think they just left as a joke? Is your brain ok, grifterrat shitlicker?

>>102610329
You have negative EQ if you think socially anxious womanminds can't be manipulated this easily when faced with a little facade of authority and a little passive agressive coercion.
Their stories are all so similar it would be comical if it wasn't so tragic:
"They said their contracts are industry standard"
"They said they work on a """trust basis""" "
"I put faith in the company and once I put faith in someone I stick by them no matter what"
"I thought if I waited a little more things would work out"
"I didn't get paid for that round of merch sales but I wrote it off in hopes the next round would be fine(The next round of merch was also not paid out to her)"
"I believed their promises"
"I felt isolated"
"I gave up a lot of amazing opportunities for this"
"I loved the [low ranking and out of the loop] staff that worked with me! They were all absolutely wonderful people!"

>>102612255
>if you think socially anxious womanminds can't be manipulated this easily when faced with a little facade of authority and a little passive agressive coercion.
>socially anxious womanminds
>womanmind
lol you're retarded alright.

>>102612255
Retardation and being an uneducated manchild can only excuse so much, there's a reason why negligence is an element of law, at some point you just say "you should have known better"

>>102607318
Matara was fired, that's not leaving

>>102599623 (OP)
No one cared about about what the Nazis were doing to the Jews until the Nazis made themselves a problem for the rest of the world. Sometimes, if you want someone to care about something, you need to make it so they can't possibly ignore it

>>102613974
>Hitler analogy

Nimi Marriage deflection thread

>>102599623 (OP)
Women are sheep, they just follow the herd, and they don't like doing anything that puts a target on their back.

>>102606047
>3 days after joining
>already saying there's literally nothing wrong there
Looks like the bug retard was her

>>102599623 (OP)
Damn. Not even NGA could come up with a plan this insane. As expected of the people who were the overwhelming majority of her fanbase.

>>102614353
And? This is 4chan, it's not like that's out of the ordinary

>>102599623 (OP)
This seems like a situation where no one else was actually communicating. Kson mentioned that payment delays would happen occasionally so when it happened to everyone at the same time they probably didn't think anything of it until the months piled up. At that point it was a sunk cost fallacy of needed that money to come in. We then saw many members already leaving and Kson was already in que for that, but Mouse told the public about it so at that point might as well jump ship.

>>102599623 (OP)
Women are dumb, that's why we like them.

>>102599623 (OP)
Women are retarded.
Specially a lesbo like her.

>>102612255
Pretty much this, women are children mentally basically for their entire lives. People get into this hobby for reasons I could never fathom, walking around acting like they expect women to act benevolently or intelligently.