>20+ vtubers, staff, and affiliates of varying degrees for Vshojo all were not being paid for multiple months - and no one said a thing
>10+ potential vtuber applicants for the new Vshojo waves all were magically aware of something seeming wrong in the process - and no one said a thing
>Everyone instantly jumps ship - and then pays thousands of dollars straight to Mouse's charity fund

Something is definitely going on behind the scenes

>>102625763 (OP)
This and how well executed the Sinder cancellation was

>>102625763 (OP)
Shut up and donate to the heckin IDF

It's kinda fucky yeah, especially given how usually, you'd expect different people to have contracts that terminate at different times, literally tying them down by law.
These bitches just...all left all at once, and there's going to be zero repercussion because the contracts just happened to all end at once?
Not a single one of them actually talked about their contract terms, nevermind the contract itself.
Don't get me wrong if you're not getting paid then you're not getting paid, but...weird.

>>102625843
How long until we find out the IDF is a scam as well?

>>102625961
As a sailor would say, they smelled the direction the wind is blowing in.

>>102626075
IDK, but they seem capable of attacking Iran and a million bucks might equip one company...ohhhhhh not that IDF.

>>102625961
Don't think Vshojo is in any position to reprimand the girls (and 1 fag) from ditching their contract - especially if they've been skimming their pay

>>102626395
Yes but at a bare minimum you'd expect legal consultation with lawyers to figure out what you can and can't do to take
you know
TIME
and different actors having different timelines as a result of this
especially given that they have talents residing in different countries with different laws
and they just fucking pulled that shit like it's synchronized swimming
mind you, this is in an industry where the talents are regularly known for fucking up even the most minor collab requests
something is fucky, and I don't like it

>>102625763 (OP)
Shit is weird as fuck

>>102626524
What's fucky is that the company violated the contract first by not paying their talents and so there's literally nothing they can do.

>>102627005
I don't think I've argued that vshojo talents shouldn't be paid.
What I maintain is that for every single talent to do this in coordination, when usually graduation trains have a queue and multiple stops, is highly unnatural.
It's like seeing epstein dead on the floor and seeing the official explanation being suicide, then finding two bullet holes to the back of the head. Highly unnatural.

>>102627246
What happened is that the Mouse fled the sinking ship first and everyone else followed suit.

>>102627297
You can follow suit, but to go to graduation IMMEDIATELY?
Of course the talents from the company that's not paying them is going to side with the talent exposing the company, but every talent literally took the same path of immediately terminating all relationships with vshojo, as opposed to staying radio silent until they figure out whether they're still on the hook from the contracts they signed.
It's so fucking weird.

>>102627297
if we're being honest, the first 3 - Veibae, Silvervale and Nyanners, all left first for seemingly valid reasons
Everyone after has either been kicked out (matara), or quit because shit wasn't going well for them. Mousey just triggered the abandonment speed rush out

>>102627409
If you hadn't been paid for months and saw the top bitch of your group leave and cause a massive uproar, there's literally no reason to stay on the sinking, arguably free falling, ship

>>102627469
yes, and that's exactly what happened during nijipocalypse
but the talents signed with niji formed queues, with the graduations spread out exactly according to when their contract ends
Hololive? Same thing, gooba had to wait for YEARS before she could move on
These women, who signed with the company at different times, just had zero inhibition and left, with ZERO mind to the contracts they signed.
What gives?

It's like a cult. Shit creeps me out.

>>102627683
They're all 4views that are perfectly capable of surviving by themselves
And they all have their own team of staff already

>>102625763 (OP)
women are followers, and nobody led them away from it

I find the radio silence really odd.
No one was even disgruntled or hinting at issues in the company. There were no cryptic tweets or weird social message messages. No weird leaks via schizos on /vt/. Even holos started firing up their roommate accounts, or took "breaks" which hinted that something was up.
These people own their IP too, they can't be suspended. Why was everyone putting on a song and dance acting like the company was great up until this week?
You would think missing $100k USD would make someone act out a little bit. Not to mention some of the talents didn't even realize they were missing 5-6 figure sums of pay? How ignorant of your finances are you?
Are they all just retarded? What gives?

>>102628325
They are retarded, but they got to keep their sub money, which is likely more than enough for living expenses, so they probably weren't too worried, but eventually you want to know what the problem is.
That's likely why it went on so long, they weren't all broke in the streets, just kinda wondering when the Vshojo Bux were coming in.
Then Mouse threw the shit at the wind turbine

>>102625961
The company is going to be completely swamped in litigation very soon. They're jumping ship because they know they can get away with it.

>>102628434
Fair enough. I don't see any malicious angle here on the talents' part. It just seemed really fucking weird watching a bunch of grown adults jump ship claiming they hadn't been paid in close to year and some of these grown adults speaking about how they only just learned they were missing massive amounts of money. Must be a nice life to live.

>>102627246
Anon Vshojo is not a typical corpo in the same vein as Holo or Niji, they own no rights and aren't involved in production, we can abstract from this that their contracts likely don't follow the same rules so comparing them is pointless. It'd be like saying Tom Cruise left his contract with Rosenberg Talent Agency but RDJ wasn't allowed to so easily break his contract with Marvel so what's going on, hmm? What's going on is they're entirely different entities.

>>102626223
I raff at this joke no matter how many times

>>102628325
Maybe they are rich enough that 100k isn't life changing amounts of money

>>102625763 (OP).

Shouldn't have conspired with (((IDF))), Joe Biden, and Elon Musk, faggots.

>>102630257
It sure got their tear ducts working.

>>102630417
it sure was weird watching mint cry (literal tears) about money after dropping a band on a donation page just to 1-up doki

>>102630504
It's all a performance

>>102630504
>"I haven't been paid since August of 2024!"
>Then dumps 10 large on a charity
What are the chances this AIDS charity shit is just a haven for money washing?

>>102630987
High

>>102630987
honestly non-zero
like think about it
the charity had fundraisers before ironmouse, sure
but the amount of money that ironmouse brought in was insane
it's at the scale where if she (or other people) asked for kickbacks (to use it for money laundering) it really wouldn't be too much of an ask (just say that to honor her contributions they made her a permanent member of the charity, etc)
what I don't get is what money they would even need to launder
like their incomes are all above-table transactions, is it just tax evasion?

>>102631143
donations to charity are either 1.5x or 2x as tax credit for end of year, so probably some "babies first tax evasion" tactics

>>102625763 (OP)
I find Ironmouse extremely untrustworthy but how has VShojo said nothing in their defense? These streamers like Kson act like children. I can't imagine a person like her waiting and waiting and being cool with not getting paid since last September. That's downright retarded.

How does VShojo owe them anything anyway? I got the impression they were basically a talent agency like Mythic with how hands-off they claim to be. It's a business model that never made sense to me and I find it even stupider that Ironmouse would use them as a proxy for a charity rather than just giving her chat a link and say
>just donate here if you want to support medical research

>>102625763 (OP)
What are the chances that this charity is some sort of fraud attempt? Given her track record and how their using public opinion, I'd say something is fishy.

>>102630504
This situation is really weird but in Mint's case I get her frustration and need to vent about it. It's not about the money, she was led on to work on a project that would help her follow her idol dream and after a year+? of working and waiting on it it started to become clear that it wasn't happening anymore. And everything she did behind the scenes will likely never be seen.

>>102626075
If it's a scam, it's been a scam for 45 years.

>>102632014
don't confuse the foundation with the finances. Wells Fargo USED To be a world trusted banking and courier service

>>102632014
I feel the likelihood of mouse getting a 5-10% kickback on all of this “charity” is high.

>>102632123
it'd be worth it for the charity to run upwards of 70% kickback
50% if there's a middleman charging introduction fees

>>102631657
I would've told her to vent to her close friends and not tell the world about the flub since all it's done is stir up tons of dramafags in exchange for some fans sending her headpat emotes.

>>102631514
VShojo owes them for sponsorships and merch sales. Which is probably a lot less than the stream revenue which is why they could get away with not paying for so long, nobody was starving.

Ironlung wanted to farm the charity angle for subscribers by tying subs to donations. It earned her the all-time twitch subs record. A simple donation link wouldn't get her that. And uniquely she had her revenue going through the company for opsec reasons