Isn't this tampering by Vshojo? How did they managed to get so many people to quit their corpos without any blowback?

>>102627938 (OP)
Simple. They promised a ton of unrealistic shit and people in corpos then were convinced they were getting a better, unrealistic deal then jumped at the chance for more money.

They also hid everything from their respective management otherwise Vshoujo would have been blown the fuck up in court or something

>>102627938 (OP)
>put general feelers out there
>never talk contract because they say it is illegal
>never talk serious
>retard quits his job
>they changed their mind
KWAB

Are we forgetting that Kyo got into hot water on their own, possibly skewing vsj's decision? This is just confirmation bias.

>>102628040
>They promised a ton of unrealistic shit and people in corpos then were convinced they were getting a better, unrealistic deal then jumped at the chance for more money.
liberal women are retarded like that

>>102628136
>their

>>102627938 (OP)
>How did they managed to get so many people to quit their corpos without any blowback?
They promised people the Moon and the Star if they signed with them, which people (like Kyo lol) to quit their jobs, only to find out Vshojo wasn't actually serious

>>102628157
Michi was so retarded that she didn't even realize she wasn't getting paid a big portion of what she was owed until literally yesterday

>>102627938 (OP)
>we operate on trust, no need to put it to paper

>>102627938 (OP)
Talking to vsj is against contract in the first place lmao.

>>102628136
A. Kyo's a shit head
B. Vshojo's retarded for ever thinking about hiring him of all people
C. A and B are irrelevant because it's still Vshojo talking corpo vtubers out of their corporation with bullshit promises

>>102628136
he's a 20 year old retarded kid. you can't just tell someone especially as dumb as him to quit his job so they can make arrangements and then pull the rug on him

>have great design that meshes with your voice to be appealing

>ruin it because you don't wanna be a femboy (Ruining all the gap moe appeal)

>graduate for a VSJ position that doesn't exist

Real fucking retard lmao.

>>102629328
>that meshes with your voice
lol

>>102628456
It check out really.
Rent a fancy car and promise them the world, they're all yours for the night.

>>102629361
the gap moe worked for his fuccboi personality, so idk.

>sabotaged nijien from inside with the help of her longtime friend gunrun
>effectively convinced other nijis to graduate and shit talk niji while in vshojo while gunrun paid them a lump sum to leave their jobs
>missed her chance at 3 concerts with her unit and the rest of nijiEN including the big stage at nijifes
>now has nothing to show for it
A classic tale of greed breaking the bonds of friendship.
Thank God Doki didn't listen to her and she remained indie.

>>102627938 (OP)
>without any blowback
because the company is dead

>>102629494
I liked it too

>>102627938 (OP)
This faggot knew exactly what he was doing, which is why he deleted the evidence from his twitter DMs, it's not exactly tortious interference or another buzzword learned from a drunken Rekieta stream
>I was in talks with them on Twitter on my old account that I no longer have access to and I also cleared the DMs so I wouldn't get in trouble with my old job

>>102629553
Funny to know that if Mint waited instead of listening to the poacher grooming her into joining the scam corpo, she'd have had her idol dream she apparently wanted and could have been on the same stage as her oshi

>>102629553
motherfucker gunrun quite literally did the "selling the bridge" scam to the all ex-niji graduates, and some were dupe by it. If he doesn't get jail time for this, then justice doesn't exist.

>>102629973
Mint wasn't poached. She made it clear in her video that she was not part of Vshojo until she pitched her idol gen idea to them sometime after July 2024 (she graduated Niji 6mo prior)

>>102627938 (OP)
It's no more "tampering" than when Eric poached Terry, Kevin, and Scott from Vince
Underhanded, sure, but nothing the company on the wrong end of the poaching can do about it

>>102630276
Gunrun and Matara gave her special treatment and support from day 1. She was definitely groomed at least

>>102630276
>Mint actually asked and pitched the black company to let her join; they didnt ask her
jesus christ she is an idiot

>>102630276
She also said that she was friends with GunRun ever since she was in Niji and he got people to quit their jobs like Hex. Guess who also "helped her get back on her feet" and were the ones responsible for the summer podcast? He was grooming her to join Vshoujo before she even quit Niji

Lesson here is Sakana needs to learn how to groom better and Mint needs to learn how to pick corpos better.

>>102627938 (OP)
>tampering
lmao do you think "tampering" is a crime or something?

>>102630656
>She also said that she was friends with GunRun ever since she was in Niji
No, she said she knew Gunrun from her idolfag days before vtubing, not since she was in Niji.
>and he got people to quit their jobs like Hex
Pomu quit Niji because the company was actually fucking her over, not because she got promised a better deal elsewhere. Otherwise she would have funneled people over to Mint instead of dropping vtubing for 3 months.

>>102628515
And despite this, none of these fucking retards ever said anything about these cutthroat practices and clear attempts at strong-arming talents into unreasonable contracts? Really? They were watching these cunts brazenly do this and didn't say ANYTHING? I can't fucking stand these spineless indies man.

>>102629328
>meshes with your voice
???

>>102630741
That's interference which they could be sued for. According to multiple ex Nijis, they tried to keep their interference secret since they were afraid of management finding out what they were up to

>>102630698
He got really fucking lucky though let's be real Think about it, Pippa's politics probably kept Vshojo from trying to bribe anybody from Phase. I can definitely see Dizzy falling for Gunrun's internal sabotage plans

>>102629740
Is this hex or kyo? I know one of them went off on a "they rejected me the cunts" tirade and deleted the vod

>>102630782
>she said she knew Gunrun from her idolfag days before vtubing
That's even worse
>Otherwise she would have funneled people over to Mint instead of dropping vtubing for 3 months
She was in Japan for three months learning Japanese and hanging out with Niji members and other vtubers. She was never going to actually quit especially when Vshoujo was preparing all that shit for her in advance

>>102629973
Who, pray tell, is her oshi?

>>102627938 (OP)
>taking away the offer after he left
kinda based ngl

>>102630903
Kyo

>>102630782
>she said she knew Gunrun from her idolfag days before vtubing
So he knew her for that long, and still decided to fuck her over. What does that say about him?

>>102627938 (OP)
>want someone to quit their job?
>just fucking ask

>>102627938 (OP)
What's funny is that kson was the only holo stupid enough to get poached

>>102631431
Nah, Gura's there

>>102631431
Sababros...

>>102630839
>interference
Also not the name of a crime.
"Poaching" or giving a job offer to someone for more money is not necessarily a crime either. It depends how the company giving the offer goes about it. It is more likely to be a breach of contract by the talent, not a criminal offense by the company making the offer.

>>102630923
If she wasn't going to quit vtubing, she wouldn't have moved over to her RM twitter for 3 months instead of just going back to her Mint account.

>>102629553
Doki didn't even get an offer

>>102631431
Kson was basically pushed into falling on her sword for the Taiwan thing, right?

>>102630839
it's not interference. the talent is the one responsible here. interference would be if they spread libel.

>>102631793
She moved to her RM account specifically because she was seriously quitting vtubing. But then the then-Pomudachis found her and supported her, and she learned that her supporters were supporting her for HER, not for the company branding she had.
That, plus Matara giving her a swift kick in the ass, are why she returned to Mint.

>>102631886
Correct. >>102631431 is spouting nonsense.
Kson left for several reasons, and only joined VShojo over a year later.

>>102632378
Cute cover story
https://x.com/ironmouse/status/1683702367294832640

>>102631549
>>102632372
>Tortious interference with a contract occurs when a third party intentionally disrupts an existing contract between two other parties, causing one party to breach the contract and suffer damages. It's a common law tort, meaning it's a civil wrong recognized by courts, and it protects individuals and businesses from harm to their contractual relationships.

Depending on what the contract says, this is by definition interference

>>102627938 (OP)
Because they were in NijiEN

>>102632378
>She moved to her RM account specifically because she was seriously quitting vtubing
She still uses that account to this day, retard. She also filmed shit with Kiara using her RM name, she was never going to actually quit

>>102628515
Lmao, literally:
>trust

>>102629553
Nijiseethe

>>102628515
>Shylily accused Vshojo's Lawyer of being high as fuck during contract negotiations
Ok gonna need a link to her talking about this because ???

Normal people don't understand how disgusting business people are and they blame themselves. Business is the scientific field of applied sociopathy. Assume anyone who dedicates themselves to it is a malignant narcissist on the hunt for their next victim.

If they would have had a single conversation with a lawyer when hit with that offer the first thing the lawyer would have asked is if the offer was binding. If they're not ready to do that, absolutely not, they are monsters playing with their food. 5 minute conversation.

>>102629494
I wouldn’t really call it “gap moe”…it feels more like Iluna’s manager looked through a bunch of submissions thought Kyo would be exactly how a gay zoomer would look and sound like, and called it a day.

>>102627938 (OP)
Kwab, couldn't happen to a nicer shitbag

>>102627938 (OP)
Based.

>>102632856
Look at the clip

>>102631204
don't trust brown

>>102636450
link it

>>102628560
Why not?

>>102632856
https://youtu.be/7USTEGgl-Qg?t=1833

>>102629988
In America you only go to jail for scamming shareholders and investors. Doing it to workers and talent is normal.

>>102629553
Wait so Mint told on herself in the recent black stream? Doesn't sound like the stuff she revealed puts her in good light, I just assumed she was going to metoo Vshojo like everyone else

>>102637763
No, that's all made up. Just watch the stream.

>>102627938 (OP)
>not signing anything with vshojo before dropping niji
KWABOTY candidate. I know gunrun or tony will take it, but holy shit it deserves at least a nomination.

>>102637763
>Confirmed she was a Vshoujo member for over an year
>Confirmed she was friends with GunRun since before she was a vtuber
>Confirmed she was poaching and recruiting people for Vshoujo
>Other people confirm that Vshoujo used ex members to try and poach other members or at least, convince them to quit

Yeah. Mint lied, careers died

>>102637904
>>Confirmed she was a Vshoujo member for over an year
1 year. It was around this time last year that she discussed her idea with Matara.
>Confirmed she was friends with GunRun since before she was a vtuber
She knew him, not that they were friends.
>Confirmed she was poaching and recruiting people for Vshoujo
Poaching is not correct. Recruiting, yes she was recruiting indies who had applied to Vshojo's audition process (look at the indie Phoebe)
>Other people confirm that Vshoujo used ex members to try and poach other members or at least, convince them to quit
Nothing to do with Mint.

>>102627938 (OP)
>Isn't this tampering by Vshojo?
they aren't athletes. what rules or laws would be broken by doing this?

>>102630839
>>102630741
>>102630346
tampering isn't even a thing outside of professional sports cartels like the MLB or NFL

>>102638003
>She knew him, not that they were friends
They connected over idols. They were friends
>She didn't poach
We know a single girl was found through the auditions. The other two are mysteries
>Nothing to do with Mint
Don't be naive

>>102638249
>They connected over idols. They were friends
Knowing someone doesn't automatically make you friends.
>We know a single girl was found through the auditions. The other two are mysteries
Other one*. Can't assume it was a poach when both Mint and Phoebe said it was auditions.

so where's matara in all this?
she helped vshojo got 3 ex nijis

>>102638413
She got fired despite it making her a contender for KWABOTY

>>102628560
>noo! he was 17 and 1085 days old! he was just a child you cant say that to him

>>102627938 (OP)
Remember when people said that VShojo didn't poach anyone? Remember when they also said that they wouldn't force their girls to male collab?
Everything they said was a fucking lie

>>102639090
>Remember when people said that VShojo didn't poach anyone?
>VShojo didn't poach anyone
https://warosu.org/vt/?task=search&ghost=false&search_text=%22vshojo+didn%27t+poach+anyone%22
that is actually a completely unique phrase.

>>102639090
actually holy shit, wait, fuck I've seen this argument before. are you the last remaining keyfag? No, vshojo did not secretly own the company that kirsch works for, and no we did not force her to collab with him.

>>102627938 (OP)
>Isn't this tampering by Vshojo
Not really and seems it was for the better than he didn't join

>>102628456
but muh taxes

>>102639394
What the fuck are you talking about?

>>102630903
Quinn is kyo
>vshojo contacted him while he was in niji, due to insider info that he was already planning to quit
>gunrun basically gives a *wink wink nudge nudge* that if he ever leaves niji to hit them up
>he was leaving anyway, but thinks vshojo is his escape plan
>after he leaves, vshojo tells him that they had a change of plans, that they were not going to hire him after all, and hands him some cash
>quinn has the receipts for all of this

Hex also tried to join, but its a nothingburger
>he contacted them
>vshojo asked him if he actually has a groomer discord filled with underage girls
>hex was very offended by this question

>>102639394
Did you miss the FallenShadow stream yesterday or something, retard?

>>102639605
nazuna was FORCED at GUNPOINT by VSHOJO THEMSELVES to malecollab with japanese dramafags in an apex tournament. it never would have happened if she didnt join vshojo and streamed as mikeneko instead. please ignore the times that mikeneko also male collabed, it was only after vshojo and kson RUINED her.

>>102639766
i try my best to miss every fallenshadow stream, generally

>>102639798
I have absolutely no idea what the fuck you're going on about. If I had known Vshitshow faggots were this fucking autistic, I wouldn't have posted in this thread

>>102639758
>What actually happened is that Kyo was heavily influenced into quitting by someone who was in Vshoujo into quitting then they promised him a spot that he never got in favor of giving it to Mika

>What actually happened with Hex probably also got talked into quitting and then he got rejected by Vshoujo after they flat out told him he wasn't getting hired because of /vt/ rrats

FTFY

>>102639817
That does explain why you're sperging out like a retard in this thread
Shondo said on stream yesterday she applied to VShojo a few years back and that she got rejected in the last round because they wanted her to start male collabing. They asked her if she'd do it with a large male streamer hypothetically and she said "no", so they rejected her

>>102627938 (OP)
>Hey, if you quit you can join! Can't talk about it right now, we'll talk more if you quit ;)
>Sure, that sounds good! I quit.
>Actually never mind lol
Devilish

>>102639817
>>102639871
https://x.com/cxnnysniffa/status/1948104415698882636
NTA but here's the clip to it where you can see her talking about it. Obviously ignore the name of the page if that sort of thing somehow offends you (you seem easily offended)

>>102640194
Oh I love cunny, I just hate egirls.

>>102640194
>Won't collab with males
>Has a boyfriend
LMAO

>>102640237
Why are you on this board?

>>102629553
First good frogposter I've seen in ages.
Pomu is a fucking retard lol.

>>102640301
babis, the only true vtubers

>>102633482
>Business is the scientific field of applied sociopathy.
I did see some news articles about how all the biggest ceos are confirmed psychopaths that would be in jail in a just world.

>>102639798
Imagine typing this and then getting rekt by
>>102640194
Do you need some ointment for your asshole?

>>102629328
shota =/= femboy
god I fucking hate ironic weebs and tourists so much

>>102627938 (OP)
kek

>>102627938 (OP)
People were told that they were highly likely to be engaging in poaching and yet the talent collabs still never got banned. And it wasn't just Nijis, they went for Pikamee too.

>>102627938 (OP)
Have people started realizing yet that Mint was a vshojo employee with a direct relationship to Gunrun while she attended recordings at Cover corp. Do you believe she introduced herself as such or kept up the ligger larp?

Kyo was a retarded piece of shit and I wish him all the worst

>>102642624
Cover 100% would have not let Kiara backroom that leeching whore interact with Cover at all if they knew she was from THAT corpo.

I love how Vshojo saw what was going on with NijiEN thanks to Sayu talking with them, and Gunrun immediately thought "wow, an entire organisation full of easy marks!" and created a pipeline to scam them right as they exit