>A coffee-shop and a brothel
Is this what the west scene was reduced to ?

>>102656275 (OP)
forced memes aren't funny

>>102656275 (OP)
The only difference is one of them is honest from the start

>>102656275 (OP)
Yes
Western women are only capable of those two things

>>102656275 (OP)
VAllure has only been around 1 year.
Come back in 2027 and then they can talk

>>102656275 (OP)
i bet there will be a huge new company owned by /lig/ chuubas

>>102656275 (OP)
i like my women the same way i like my coffee
Enema style

vallure is selling coffee?

>>102656275 (OP)
Perhaps, but above all, the western scene belongs to the indies. We are on the eve of the dictatorship of the chuubateriat.

>>102657233
not yet
but some of their girls might be able to source the yeast for a good sourdough bread

>>102656275 (OP)
Pretending like any other small corpo is different.
They all hire turbo sheltered boring ass nasally asian girls that spam FOTM shit for youtubes algo. They are all the same.

>>102656275 (OP)

>>102658126
this is vshitshow lite, the clock is ticking for them too

>>102658234
Not before you die hopefully

>>102658126
>groomcorp only to get to rosemi

>>102658126
>a coffee-shop and two brothels

>>102656275 (OP)
Let me know when I can get my dick sucked at starbucks.

>>102658311
go back to watch your 2 view cucktubers glitchcuck

>>102656275 (OP)
Phasefags are a cult and will lash out at even the slightest criticism

>>102658637
make me sissy

>>102658721
Fuck you! I'll kill you motherfucker!

>>102658780
BODIED that femme

>>102656275 (OP)
Until I see some titties Vallure isn't a real AVtuber agency.

>>102658985
Willo used a topless model on a fansly but that's about it.

>>102657233
Gamersupps has caffeinated energy drinks

>>102658234
PHASESEETHE
>>102658406
NIJISEETHE
>>102658489
INCELSEETHE

>>102658780
faggot you're already doing it, that's why you're a proud cuck trying to shill your garbage here

>>102656275 (OP)
We're all thinking it. I'm just going to say it. PhaseGODS won.

>>102658126
I can guarantee you glitchstars is gonna struggle just by how duellogs talks about it

>>102658721
Our faith and devotion keep Phase standing and bring ruin to it's completion
We have a god gestating in the warp and when it get birthed you all will see

>>102658126
I don't know anything about them except that Stimpak is cute

>>102659327
Was that phase girls making NTR jokes and the unicorns not taking it well?

I'm not saying this group is the the best thing ever, but we'll probably see a lot more of these small talent owned companies cropping up and filling the void vshojo left. But I doubt we'll see anyone notable as Vshojo again.

>>102660854
One of the corpos in the OP is talent owned

>>102657644
So which indie is stalin?

>>102656275 (OP)
To be fair, what more you need in life?

>>102657644
>ex-corpos and mythic talents
Nice lineup bro. How long did it take you to copypaste them all in the same frame?

>>102661474
About an hour. This is version 2.1 or something. Version 3 is going to be a real nightmare given just how much their ranks have swelled.

Stronny won.

Hololive wins

>>102658126
Despite me liking Kanna, I really can't give a fuck about the rest of the glitch stars lineup

>>102659775
If you actually want a serious answer?
It was one of the japanese girls doing it for her japanese fans, who are unironically into it, I dont know why but nips LOVE NTR
The western fans didnt like it obviously but the talent wasnt aware at the time

>>102656275 (OP)
only cuck corpos left in western vtubing

>>102665584
>The western fans didnt like it obviously
Sure

>>102656275 (OP)
vindicated.

>>102656275 (OP)
>Hating Vallure
Why? They're more straight forward and self aware than 90% of corpos
>but they're whores
Yeah. Their existence acts as containment for the sexpest fans in the small corpo space keeping them away from your oh so seiso and pure idol oshi. Isn't this what you want?

>>102656275 (OP)
one's a literal whore company, and the other is vallure

>>102661019
Bao of course. Remember the purging of Sinder for counter-friendship speech and anti-Vtuber activities?

>>102666451
>Polish
Do YOU count poles as westerners?

>>102666989
>your oh so seiso and pure idol oshi
I have some bad news for you, my friend.

>>102656275 (OP)
All other corpos keep self destructing so yes

Oh, were you saying something down there?

>>102667287
Yes. They switched sides after Cold War 1.0.

>>102667370
Sarcasm is difficult to communicate through text. That's my bad

>>102665584
>It was one of the japanese girls
please don't let it be nasa

>>102667651
no it was Iori, Nasa is a good girl
>>102667505
well I dont

>>102656860
>>102656275 (OP)
Vallure will soon have real competition in the brothel-tubing scene, lets see if they survive that first
https://x.com/PROMISU_Ent_EN/status/1948068233090847148

>>102668243
thank goodness, i couldn't care less about iori and her cooked voice

>>102656275 (OP)
>A coffee-shop and a brothel
Man, I could really go for a Starbucks

>>102665584
So why did she do it in English?

>>102656860
I honestly don't predict them to last. Half of their models are cunny coded And can't even legally stream on fansly due to that. The ones that aren't cunny are already burning out on making NSFW content after a year of being in. One also literally just went schizo a month ago because a guy said "hey" to her when she had her window open.

>>102656275 (OP)
>VAllure
Mercy and Azura will quit within the next year, guarantee it.

>>102670191
Why, are they getting cucked by the new hires being bigger whores?

>>102669767
>One also literally just went schizo a month ago because a guy said "hey" to her when she had her window open.
kek yeah thats what happened

>>102656275 (OP)
I hope Stronny has a good plan. Giving almost 100% of your earnings to the talents sounds like and idiotic business model waiting to colapse on her.

>>102656275 (OP)
i enjoy both coffee and sex. i don't see tbe problem, op

>>102670459
Mercy is clearly not cut out for being a whore and has been the most reluctant and uncomfortable about doing nsfw which makes you wonder why she even applied to such a corpo.
And yes, even Shibi outright said that she was worried the new gen would syphon their viewers away, which they seem to be doing judging by the numbers.

>>102656275 (OP)
>a vtuber agency funded by coffee

I want.a vtuber agency fully funded by hot sauce

>>102670191
Oh no. Vallure fans won't be able to listen to black women eat popeyes unmuted on stream
>>102670459
Gen 2 mogs the hell out of gen 1 because they were able to hire experienced streamers and asmr channels while gen 1 was all whos minus Stronny herself
Plus the gen 2 designs are better and don't look like tumblr OC abomination characters specifically designed for a fetish

>>102670915
>Mercy is clearly not cut out for being a whore and has been the most reluctant and uncomfortable about doing nsfw which makes you wonder why she even applied to such a corpo.
She's the only one I've enjoyed watching and honestly only for her more normal streaming content of gaming and zatsu. I think that is where her heart is too. The way I hear it she was a normal fleshy 0view-1view let's player streamer before vallure. But one of the requirements was to have previous lewd work so she must've done something of the sort before vallure.

>>102659223
HOLOSEETHE

>>102668294
Their announcement that EN auditions were opening didn't even get 3 digit likes. Despite Sera being great I wouldn't get my hopes up.

>>102670496
Fair. Maybe it was a boyfriend related yab but, if not then she literally called the cops on somebody for saying hello

>>102661019
Neuro

LIA WANTED TO LEAVE KEK CONNECT IN 2024 OR EARLIER!!

>>102658406
>TheDuelLogs
wtf I fall asleep to this guy's videos

>>102668294
Why are the first two shaped like they're meant to appeal to women

>>102666451
Kind of forgetting the lumi bf thing

>>102675357
and yet she is in phase going on 5 years, and just finished a stream where she was excited about all the stuff phase is working on coming up

>>102676962
You mean the thing that people have been shitting on her for since it happened?
Which people at least here on /vt/, explicitly didn't like?

>>102676907
Hey, lesbian femanons need some girls to goon over too...

>>102673205
>she literally called the cops on somebody
dyrbi?

>>102672061
>>102670915
She is a great retro game streamer and a great person but she is a poor fit for the corpo

>>102658985
Preferably the flat immy titties

>>102659327
I don't get it

>>102678136
>Ay Mercy tis a fine retro streamer but sure tis no whore, Stronny
>Ho-eth!

>>102668294
>>102672887
This is the second time Promisu has had an EN branch. In fact they *started* with the EN branch, recruiting existing indies under their own identities, but a while after the JP branch went live they quietly shut it down and removed all mention of it from their site.
(the actual owners are Korean last I checked)

>>102677095
Yes, hence why I'm correcting the twitter image

>>102656275 (OP)
Putting actual "success" aside, of the remaining corpos, the ones that could be said to be confidently staying afloat would be:
>Phase
>Vallure
>V4M
>Chromashift
So a coffee shop, a brothel, a HYDRA cell, and a former concentration camp now turned HYDRA cell.

Time will tell if Glitch Stars takes off.

>>102678414
Who were the originals?

>>102678808
>>V4M
>>Chromashift
lol
lmao

do you know who owns them? they are as black as vshojo.

>>102678808
Chromashift is going to keep bleeding talents, bitches hate their corpo.

>>102678808
>>Chromashift
you just gonna ignore they have had 2 mass talent exodus, and had to rebrand because of how black their group is?
non fo the Brave Group side groups have any momentum or traction they have been treading water for years in EN. they bot youtube subs and got caught doing so with their accounts getting demonitized

>>102678891
Ally Kirser, Cuppachae and Yoisaki Nadeshiko. IIRC the first one was already doing a lot of R-18 content, while the last never did any.

stronny can be my oshi once she lets those dogs loose more often. enough of this nylon and knee high stuff

>>102669767
Lol which one?

>>102678917
>do you know who owns them?
Yeah, that's why I call them HYDRA cells, and yes, I know they're black as coal, but the point is that they're above water, if for no other reason than their master being able to pump them full of money without care. That lets them have quick and easy 3D and concerts for their talents.

Chromashift I see as a hard reset from the corpse of Idol, with all the problematic members out leaving only those too loyal or too meek to leave.

>>102658311
The amount Sayu collabs with them is making me wonder how long till she joins. Its over when that happens and you know it.

>>102679643
chromashift has nothing to it. they will die a slow death like every other small corpo until brave gets bored of wasting money on them -or- the girls get tired of making no money and putting up with brave politics

they had a real shot with e-sekai and endless happening back to back, but it blew up.

>>102656275 (OP)
i just love clio man

>>102677290
Is that what this is?

>>102656275 (OP)
cyberlive will return

>>102656275 (OP)
>A coffee-shop and a brothel
Is this a problem?
Sounds fine to me.

>>102656275 (OP)
Stop trying to take down Hololive.
Just play game, record music, stay out of drama, pay your salaries on time. It's not too hard, really.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iz3r8tO18Do
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iz3r8tO18Do

>>102656860
They said they wouldn't last 3 months... they've been pretty stable. I don't watch them but it seems there's a niche for it. They're biggest threat seems to be Visa and Mastercard debanking adult oriented services.

>>102668294
What? really? I saw the name but didn't bother reading the details.

>>102684464
most small corpos didn't face trouble until the start of year 3. vallure are still babies

>>102656275 (OP)
Is VAllure actually the second biggest EN owned corpo now? What a timeline we live in.

>>102672061
She was a normal seiso vtuber, not a flesh streamer. The NSFW content was just her playing eroge on fansly.

>>102656275 (OP)
hey, it's a very good brothel with whores who actually treat you really well, ok?

>>102685855
Damn... Mercy is really cool. I hope things work out well for her in a way that makes her happy.

>>102669767
>One also literally just went schizo a month ago because a guy said "hey" to her when she had her window open
Yep. Sure. Totally a schizo moment, and not at all a panicked flashback to a childhood trauma she cannot ever fully recover from
t. ptsd patient (albeit war trauma rather than childhood trauma)

>>102678331
Get on her nsfw twitter. She doesn't post nipple but shes done a fair amount of topless stuff. Sadly not flat.

>>102686030
She's just happy to be here and doing karaoke right now https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0y4etbegUI

>>102686139
kek yeah right not a bf

>>102670915
Yeah but Shibi is a huge menhera bitch

>>102686139
......your PTSD gets triggered by people saying "hello!" ?
I mean I would understand it if he was like knocking on her door or jiggling the knob and trying to get in but if you take her story at face value, she ended stream immediately after he said a single word to her and didn't even try to let himself in the apartment or anything like that, didn't knock on her window, allegedly he just greeted her very friendly like through the window and it sent her into such a tizzy that she hid in the closet and called the cops on him.
I'm sorry but this is not the sign of a functional adult if that's true

>>102656275 (OP)
Why the 2nd pic read like failure

>>102686261
grifter too right?

>>102686506
nigga she was in the bathtub. menhera or not, if it sounds like a guy is saying hello while a woman is in the bath she's gonna freak tf out

>>102686669
Fine, fair enough I'll give you that one.

>>102686669
You really believe her story? Seriously?

>>102656463
Fpbp
OP BTFO

>>102684464
>raise money
>try to make more
(you are here)
>run out of money

>>102675944
one of us
ONE OF US

VAllure needs to re-work on all their models.

They all look like cheap plastic knock-off toys

>>102686260
pstd over too much cock
and she calls herself a whore?
vmanure

>>102679356
based, I fucking hate fishnets, latex, etc.

just show it bare ffs

>>102689876
Gen 2 looks great, and Icey's 2.0 is actually looking pretty good

>>102679356
I love nylons
bare is okay
I fucking hate socks

>>102689876
literally debuting their 2.0s next week

>>102689876
They agree, that's why they're all getting 2.0s. Icey Shibi and Mercy are getting full redesigns

>>102690072
>2.0
I know it is how that artist does things and that artist is a bit deal since she does Doki's and such but man I hate fleshfangs

>>102656463
Fpbp, also en corpo is dead

>>102660854
They don't fill any void, they don't do anything.

DUELLOGS WON

>>102675944
Yeah The Duel Logs, from The Duel Log's Duel Logs

>>102659335
Oh, anything noteworthy?

>>102694597
just tough love

>>102656275 (OP)
VAllure is good.

>>102656275 (OP)
You've got your Starbucks.
You've got your OF.
Most other women in the west are stay home moms like Nimi, Saba and Dobi.
That's about it, yeah. No need to go beyond that.

>>102697404
>gets loli model
>has the biggest tits in the company

>>102673205
>>102670496
>>102669767
Stronny should teach her juniors how to keep their mane-san on a leash so situations like this don't happen.
Stronny knows a lot about leashes.

i honestly hate vallure. im not anti porn but they are just disgusting.
vtubing is NOT for whoring like that. vtubers are IDOLS they are supposed to be PURE

>>102697966
Are you serious? You know JPs do much worse right?

>>102697966
JP vtubers were making porn on FC2 long before Melody became the first “lewd vtuber,” you fucking tourist.

>>102697966
wait until he learns about the holos who've made porn / actively make porn

>>102656275 (OP)
Anyone who dislikes coffee is secretly a terrorist. This is science.

>>102698265
Ollie literally brainstorms in members streams about what sort of porn they should make.

>>102698335
>Ollie does porn
oh really name one

>>102698452
Phasmophobia collab

>>102698469
No I mean the porn she does

>>102697732
The tits are for hibernation.

>>102698469
kek

>>102698493
What was her prior lewd work experience that got her into vallure? I don't remember her previous vtuber identity doing anything lewd.

>>102697966
at least vallure is honest that they are whores unlike a certain tapir

>>102697732
Shibi's shibers are bigger

>>102656275 (OP)
You forgot about Glitchstars, the company where the girls only play yugioh that Nova joined.

>>102673205
I wish that was me.

>>102699044
Nova is that stacked? I might actually watch her now

>>102698921
I don't think she did any. The minimum lewd requirement to join was commissioning nsfw art of your character. I believe that's how Icey got in.

VAllure winning

>>102699137
Wow that was a low bar.

>>102698921
>>102699137
There are a whole bunch of onlyfans nudes of her, you can find them fairly easily if you try

>>102699190
That makes more sense.

>>102699172
It was just to make sure they were comfortable with lewd content.

>>102699292
Right but commissioning a nsfw skeb and doing pornographic h-content on stream and patreon are very different levels. Of course someone that wasn't comfortable wouldn't apply for a role where that was the main focus either in theory.

>>102697464
>Most other women in the west are stay home moms
I wish...

>>102699366
Apparently before auditions opened they got emails asking if people can join and not do lewd content. There was also concerns from people online that VAllure was going to "corrupt" some innocent girls into being whores. So those are the reasons that lewd requirement was put in place.
Stronny was more concerned with hiring good VAs then girls with whore experience. Since making audio content is the corpo's main goal. They focused more on past whore experience for gen 2 though.
Apparently the auditions still had a problem of girls applying but not wanting to do lewd content. So much they had to add that note on the website and mention it multiple times during their application advice stream.

>>102699846
>Apparently before auditions opened they got emails asking if people can join and not do lewd content.
Surprising but I guess I can get it.
>There was also concerns from people online that VAllure was going to "corrupt" some innocent girls into being whores. So those are the reasons that lewd requirement was put in place.
I would've expected the requirement to have been a little stronger in practice than "played eroge on stream" or "commissioned an nsfw art piece" was my thinking.

>>102656275 (OP)
>reduced to
It always was

>>102699190
isn't she 400lbs

>>102665584
The real reason is that comments about how her streams are boring and unoriginal despite being a vtuber for years now got to her and somehow she thought that doing some subversive bad end dating sim stream was the best way for her to show that she's la creatividad. She's not a bad girl she's just a little stupid, to be fair to her since then she's tried doing more creative streams without resorting to stupid stunts like this.

>>102700522
Almost a quarter of Vallure are obese black women, if that's your thing.

Can I get a qrd on the Vallure girls?
I only know Immy, Shibi and Stronny

>>102678136
>>102678406
The funny thing is I would've expected Icey to be the retro vtuber based on her past

>>102699044
Isn'tglitchstars another one those "corpo but not really" things

>>102701421
They're the only ones worth knowing.

>>102701647
>Shibi

>>102701421
Azura: Caring soft spoken chill streamer.
Icey: European, bratty casual streamer.
Mercy: Innocent dorky weeb, into retro games.

I kind of don't like gen 2 as much because they are less sovlfvl
Maybe Gen 1 are all crazy menheras but that's what makes them so magical
Menhera whores who made something work that a lot of "people" really wished would fail and became friends through it
Besides Phyla I just don't really think gen 2 are crazy enough. Half of them seem like grifters to me who joined solely for personal benefit... i'm kind of worried they are going to ditch or do something stupid. I was pretty shocked how Willo and Sinthya complained about their timeslots right away.

>>102702299
>Half of them seem like grifters to me who joined solely for personal benefit
They're workers that applied for a job and want to make a living. I don't see any of them as grifters really and less so than some of gen1 even

>>102702299
>solely for personal benefit
As opposed to what, the good of humanity?

>>102702299
Quetzu applied for gen 1 too but didn't make it in. She's been a fan of Stronny's for ages.

>>102660854
only void 3am is filling is the void in krimbo's fat fucking stomach

>>102656275 (OP)
very simple. I watch uruka and airi streams and then cum my brains out to vallure's mommy asmrs, then back to watching airi's airi's and listening to uruka talk about the 10000000th abg story

>>102702871
that's not good

>>102699190
Yeah, pretty much Mercy is the only one who was truly pure. As far I know.

>>102702791
I am pretty sure some of them joined just for the lewd stuff.

>>102658126
>Glitch Stars
>vtubing
Silly anon, that's a card game show.

>>102700522
Hey anon, I was already convinced, you don't need to tell me more.

>>102702344
no anon, if you actively do anything to not be a broke 2view for your entire career it's grifting

>>102702299
bro they are there to make you cum and have some fun for money. It's a job, like virtual geishas or something. Not that deep.

It still makes me laugh how Stronny basically made her own corpo with "blackjack and hookers" after being kicked out from her first one. And not only that, but she actually managed to made it a success.

>>102705042
The secret is to actually deliver on the hookers, rather than keep it metaphorical.

>>102656275 (OP)
It's what's financially stable. EN vtubing needs to be subsidized by a side business to function.

>>102656275 (OP)
I could imagine walking in wild west town and instead of a salon it's a coffee shop and a brothel.

>make porn company
>girls don't do porn
Wdtmbt

>>102675357
Lisa has a meltdown talking about leaving like every other month when she fucks up her meds and then the next week is fine again, usually after cancelling a couple streams. Take everything she says with a grain of salt.

>>102705294
what the fuck does the sheep have to with this?

>>102705390
Probably misread Lia as Lisa

>>102675357
Lia, and also Uruka, have hinted many times before they actually would graduate just to continue their professional careers. But they probably make more money as being vtubers than what they would make with their worthless degrees, so who knows.

>>102705241
a real AVtuber corpo wouldn't be able to survive the EN market, even the light stuff they do is enough to permanently brand them and burn bridges

>>102656275 (OP)
Which one's the brothel?

>>102705673
It feels like Uruka decided to give the vtubing thing a real chance as a career after she realized she could make maybe 1k from her violin streams. (Assuming 1k+ SC, maybe half that in SE, some more in membership gifting, merch shilling... could possible reach 3k total) It's decent money and she can hit 6figs easily. Of course, that's not so great compared to californian salaries...

>>102705390
Nothing, but while we're talking about her, Chromashift would be wise to cut her loose before her curse kills them.

>>102705390
her chest is pure sex

>>102706431
what chest?

>>102706091
>before her curse kills them
Koa has even a worse curse than Lisa, if we go by that.

>>102706954
True, even I have more chest than her.