the fact that they never hired a random or genuinely unknown person. literally everyone was a nepo hire. every member was either someone already popular, already established, or a former corpo. just really funny they shut down before ever hiring a random despite their insistence that they were NOT nepo hiring.

>>102679009 (OP)
It's also funny to think that because the auditions were completely pointless, any money they spent on the auditions was also wasted.

That's not unusual. If you're going to hire someone you need to have some sort if provable indication that they're serious about it, and that means they need to have some kind of experience. Getting along with some of your existing talents is also important because of the collaborative nature in the industry. Other corpos have different methods for weeding out the unfit, but there's nothing wrong with making sure they're at least kind of qualified to do the actual job.

>>102679599
ok apek

peke is peak

>>102679009 (OP)
If you had a choice between an established vtuber and a random 1view, who would you choose? It's not nepohiring, Hololive doesn't hire randoms either

>>102679795 (me)
In fact, it would be nepohiring to choose a 1view over someone popular because that 1view is a friend of someone in the company. Case in point: Tsukomo Sana

>>102679599
You do realize next payment isn't coming right? You can stop shilling already

>>102679009 (OP)
>someone already popular, already established, or a former corpo.
>Froot
>Peke
>Nagi
>Hotaru
The last one was a voice actress and idol but she'd retired years ago and wasn't a streamer.

>>102679918
>Hotaru
arguably the biggest name in vshojo

>>102679009 (OP)
what I don't understand is, if the contracts were so bad and they already had experience as indies and a solid audience... why did they join?
we are talking about significant cuts, up to 60% for most sources of revenue. and these people aren't impressionable teenagers, some of them are in their 30s

>>102679599
>the pipeline literally doesn't exist, must have 10 years experience for entry level
You'd be good at demoralizing the job hunters at /adv/.
>>102679856
Nice false dichotomy. $0 has been deposited to your account.
>>102680096
The idea is that the corpo boosts you so hard you don't miss the 60%. It was believable at the time when vtubing was exploding in the west.

>>102679795
Now we know that the auditions were rigged anyway.
>anyone can join
When they were looking for big streamers and they actively tried to recruit some outside of auditions.

>>102680292
There's nothing wrong with hiring big streamers. You can't hire everyone
>they actively tried to recruit some outside of auditions
Now this is bad, I agree

>>102679690
Don't know who that is.
>>102679860
I'm just speaking realistically.
>>102680241
I didn't imply talents need to have 1M subscribers on youtube or something. All you need to do is imagine what your hiring criteria would be if it was your responsibility. You have a couple hundred people applying, and you want to make sure the people you hire don't crash out after 2 months because they didn't realize they would have to attend meetings or stream regularly. You want to make sure the person you hire isn't a huge bitch that likes to start shit on social media and calls her coworkers racist slurs or some shit.

So like I said. It's normal to want the vtubers you let join your company to have an established streaming record and have a history of amicable relationships with the women they're going to be working closely with. You can call that shit unfair or nepotism, but it's just business. If you disagree you're a fucking moron that has never been responsible for hiring anybody.

meanwhile phase's starting gen
>a high 2view moth who got rejected by every company she applied for
>her low 2view esl friend
>a cosplayer who never streamed before
>a violin player who never streamed before

>>102680096
>up to 60% for most sources of revenue
merch is a terrible source of revenue and is honestly more trouble than its worth. sponsors are good money but also a hassle with many of them wanting a large amount of back and forth communication to hash out details before the contract is agreed to.
setting aside that vshojo specifically was an ineffective company that didnt do the things it set out to do, the idea of having someone else manage all of this for you, and also hunt for opportunities on your behalf so you dont have to, is a lucrative idea.
even now, many independant large vtubers still have many of these things managed for them, with personal staff teams that manage the majority of their sponsor communications for them and with middleman companies that handle merch for collectives of independant vtubers.

>>102680383
This is not bad, but if you already have someone you want to hire, stop the pretense and just recruit them directly.
I always said that they could've hired Haruka directly, and take someone else from the auditions. In my mind, you usually do auditions to search for less known talented people.
Then showing Haruka as the result of the audition didn't feel right to me, even less now that we know they can and will directly try to hire you.

>>102680545
Fair point

>>102680455
>If you disagree you're a fucking moron that has never been responsible for hiring anybody.
Hosting auditions that were never going to go anywhere, and then hiring nepos who didn't even audition, is a good way to get sued in a real industry.

funny thing is that they will say they didn't hire nepos for the new gen, when:
>Mint was a huge nepo hire
>Beribug has collabed with Mint and is a friend
>Pia did the concert with Mint and Doki
>Phoebe did the concert with Mint and Doki
>Maeve is friends with Mint
she tried to get all of her underlings jobs. I respect it kinda.

>>102680640
I agree that trying to hire people that didn't audition while taking auditions is scummy. That wasn't part of any of my points at all. But we also call that practice headhunting. And unfortunately setting up applications or even interviews while having no intention of hiring any of the applicants is also scummy and becoming more common. They do this for many reasons, some of them financial, but in this case it would be "bad PR" to not take in applications at all. They just didn't think there would be any consequences to only hiring people they scouted.

>>102679009 (OP)
>Hire genuinely unknown person
>It starts sperging endlessly about being misgendered or being shafter by "Vwhores" who stick their tits out.

What could go wrong.