Hololive/cover is the problem bros

no, it's idol culture and lazy retards who sign with the idol corpo who don't even want to be idols
if you just want to game and yap, stay indie

>>102688616
Incorrect

>>102688616
Correct

>>102688533 (OP)
8d
4d
2d

>>102688533 (OP)
has it even been a month yet

>>102688533 (OP)
Please, we all know it’s because they all have lovers now, or in Gura’s case, a kid

>>102688765
No, it is not.

redeen the Gunrun ticket saar

>>102688846
yes, it is

>>102688533 (OP)
the funny thing in this picture is that she was not streaming regularly even though it has not bee a month yet
she don't even stream in the past 2 days

>>102688533 (OP)
My rat is Gunrun convinced them to leave and join Vshojo, but then Ironmouse told them, after they left Hololive, that they shouldn't join.

Saba is just a constant repeating cycle
>board of slreaming
>joins hololive cause it looks fun
>streams
>board of streaming
>leave cause indies looks fun
>streams
*you are here*
>board of streaming

Now that vshojo collapse it's only a matter of time when the lonely feeling kicks in and we will be back where she first started.

>>102688916
Nope

>>102688630
tourist here. Not seeing much to convince people of this...

>>102689197
It's working

Do you decide what gift card Gunrun gives you or is it up to him?

>>102689271
Applebees

Gura is the ultimate "I fell for it again ward" vtuber
They do this every time she "returns"

>>102689152
>board
ESL-kun...

>>102689152
bored not board, and what does vshojo have to do with anything

It hasn't been a single fucking month yet

>>102688533 (OP)
Cover is the problem but not for the reason you think

>>102689160
nu uh

Wow it's almost as if she has to build this new IP by streaming regularly instead of going on long breaks like she used to (especially because she no longer has the freedom to do so), and even then she still isn't streaming as often as she used to on her first year of being a shark.
Nah it's all Cover's fault.

>>102689242

Yup, its almost as though people generally expect some kind of explanation.

>>102688533 (OP)
>months
Obvious tourist, try years

ogey

>>102689457
>Wow it's almost as if she has to build this new IP by streaming regularly
lol
lmao
Hololive has done half the work for that
You don't immediately sell out your merch on a new IP if it doesn't already have a pre-established foundation.

>>102689756
>Hololive has done half the work for that
The thing is though there's not a Hololive to help keep her relevant by association, so fucking off like she used to runs the risk of her audience forgetting about her

>>102689756
So we'll just memory-hole the fact that her first channel reached 1 million before the 2nd person in Hololive hit 1 million. Hololive got boosted by Gura not the other way around you bootlicking retard

>>102689830
Senzawa was a nobody that just farmed dead subs across the years. If people were aware of her past life being a slut for edgy twitch retards, she never would became famous.

>>102689830
>So we'll just memory-hole the fact that her first channel reached 1 million before
Her account literally pre-dated the existence of Hololive by more than a year, so that's not really saying much

>>102688533 (OP)
The more likely answer is she didn't want to travel to japan this year for whatever reason.
You can draw whatever conclusion from that as you will, but the fact is that travelling halfway around the globe for an extended stay every year isn't feasible longterm.
Even if you have nothing else going on, you're going to be looking for alternatives because fuck that.

Gee, I wonder why op decided to leave out who made that post
https://x.com/ShitpostRock/status/1947539857976528954

>>102689441
Yes

>>102689495
Then elaborate I don't think you can

>>102690102
>He's getting flamed in the comments
KWAB

>>102689830
She did boost hololive but hololive also boosted her. Without hololive, she'd still be streaming to 50 viewers. Without her, the holo english branch would've failed, and hololive would be japanese only agency

>>102690102
>/v/ermin shitposter
Makes sense

>>102690102
Genuinely wouldn't be surprised if it comes out some day that Phase pays fags like this to shitpost Holo like Vshojo did
There's literally too many of these /v/fag bluecheck accounts that are ready to say some snide shit at the drop of a hat lol

>>102690297
She never was a consistent streamer, but she was an anomaly.
Do an unannounced stream and attract thousands; and this was on Twitch.

>>102690459
Whose oshi marks are those?

>>102690516
You should be able to guess just by being on /vt/
You know the answer

>>102690499
she never had even close to a thousand viewers before hololive

>>102689830
Only a post-Myth toddler would believe that. Hololive was picking up incredible speed since the early 2020 lockdowns started.
Gura was clearly the break-out success of EN, but the branch was going to be successful regardless. The buzz around it was just too much to fail.

>>102690516
pippa pipkin from phase

holofags seething kek

>>102690459
To the surprise of nobody

>>102690563
did

>>102690610
>but the branch was going to be successful regardless
Nnnnnot for long because the dark ages came soon after that.
I know this board is obsessed with homos more than their own fans, but they were not even remotely close to killing the branch versus the real problems that made NijiEN seem like an actual alternative to HoloEN. You know shit sucked when even Kiara considered leaving back then.

>>102690091
Plenty of people do it in all sorts of industries, but it can certainly be a reason to quit if that isn't for you personally.

>>102688533 (OP)
she is already slowing down, there are less streams every week

Reminder on how much Hololive was boosted with Myth.
https://youtu.be/MhkLY7ZZsNI?si=F6V79OMq8D5OP_h6

>>102690610
Hololive was nothing before Myth, seethe more faggot facts don't care about your feelings

>>102690610

>>102690909
Honestly I would be fine with 1-2 streams per week once she settles in. If she starts ghosting for months again like she did before then I'll just straight up drop her again, there's plenty of other good vtubers I can watch

>>102691127
Your point? You can clearly see when the incline started. I never denied Myth's launch was the peak of Hololive's popularity in the west, but if your narrative was correct, there would have been a much bigger peak in the months post launch.

>>102691127
Now let's zoom in a little
"Hololive was picking up incredible speed since the early 2020 lockdowns started."

>>102691404
>slow incline before myth
>massive leap after myth debuts
lmao

>>102691452
>slow
>going from fucking nothing to literally half of myth spike within only ~4 months
That is, in fact, "picking up incredible speed since the early 2020 lockdowns started"

>>102691522
All streaming benefited from COVID, but Myth caused the huge separation from the competition.
Mori was the second most subscribed in Holo, and third in the world at one point.

>>102691616
Myth would work regardless of Gura's inclusion is the point though (even if it would have to be 2020 Mori of all people who had to carry). The hype for EN was already great even before they showed up. >>102690610 is still not wrong.

>>102691522
next level cope

>>102691743
seethe more faggot facts don't care about your feelings

>>102691762
your own facts prove that myth caused a massive spike in hololive popularity, stop being selectively blinded by your hatred for a cute anime girl

>>102691404
Yeah, you can see it much better from that graph. Myth delivered on the expectations, but they were set up for success.
The huge interest built up in the west by members like Coco, Haachama, Korone and the others is exactly WHY the EN branch was even greenlighted to begin with.
>>102691891
It did, but that doesn't mean it's all by their own doing. If Myth debuted as an unknown unit from a newly formed company, they wouldn't have gained nearly the same amount of recognition. It's delusional to think otherwise.

>>102691891
Because Hololive itself was already getting popular.
Nobody would give a shit about Myth if Hololive didn't already establish itself via clippers despite having no support for global audience yet.
People flocked to Myth because "Hololive was finally going global," not because the 5 pngs on a static background were so enticing. Nobody even knew what they were going to be like.
Their popularity does not change significantly after they actually debuted. The only thing they needed to do was not failing miserably, which is a miracle when their members were far from ideal.

>>102688533 (OP)
Gunrun, please, stop posting on /vt/ and go find a lawyer.

>>102688533 (OP)
>muh streams
Gura was lazy and coasting on the Hololive brand because they would cover for her
Now that she’s indie she HAS to stream or its over for her career

You all seem to seethe a whole lot about her considering how "insignificant" you keep telling me she is. If she's so insignificant then why are you so upset?

>>102688941
You're a fucking retard lmao

>>102689756
Gura. Not hololive.

>>102692404
HoloEN is a child daycare gig for washed up liggers

I still expect her to get burnt out and return to her old ways before the end of the year. Maybe she'll prove me wrong though, we'll see.

>>102691404
https://youtu.be/YkrFxyqvYWI?si=7fQU49qOu95oK_Fw

>>102688533 (OP)
GUNRUN!!! RETURN THE CHARITY FUNDS GUNRUN!!!! STOP POSTING IN VT FOR FUCK SAKE!

>>102688533 (OP)
No, it's because she now can't enjoy the base salary that Cover gives them, which means she must stream to not go bankrupt

>>102688533 (OP)
You couldn't even afford to pay your employees! so fuck off and cease the idea of hiring Gura, Gunrun!!! IRS will get your ass!

With all of Gura's long breaks, it's been repeatedly shown that when she did return to stream, the whole branch benefited. Just as the whole branch declined during her absence.

>>102690091
Yes, youre close. We know she has a lot of anxiety to the point she has to throw up/cant eat etc.


I think the assumption that it was streaming that burned her out is wrong, but its at least somewhat realistic.
The assumption that she cant handle being relevant or have big viewer numbers is absolute lobotomy tier though. Its the irl stuff from recording to concerts to flying to a foreign country as a kidsized woman that doesnt speak the language that stressed her tf out. And I think shes resentful about cover because despite this being a permanent issue, they were japs, and mental issues are very stigmatized there.

>>102693219
>And I think shes resentful about cover because despite this being a permanent issue, they were japs, and mental issues are very stigmatized there.
Which is why they let her not work for the overwhelming majority of her stay there. This isn't even about her numbers, they let a lot of members vanish for months (e.g. Shion, Ayame, Mumei)

>>102693376
no I didnt mean that part, its not overall workload.
Im talking about her being in practice or in recording and being sick and causing delays through that etc. this comes with guilt as well. You dont want them (staff, talents) to have to wait for hrs because you cant stop throwing up but you also dk what to do to help it. Especially an issue if your handlers dont understand this stuff. Putting someone on the spot etc. or getting mad at them will cause literally the opposite reaction.
No amount of days off work helps with this issue. Also throwing up fucks with your vocal coords, they dont deal acid well.
saba isnt cut out for the jpidol life because of the irl issues.
Obv its hard to say how bad her condition is. Probably relatively mild relative to the possible ceiling.

>>102688533 (OP)
Oh boy, I can't wait for this to be grudgeposted in like a month or two.
Fucking timeloops.

>>102688616
Then why did she hasn't revealed her relationship status yet?

>>102690459
I dont know, I'd expect pippa fags to do it for free.

>>102693620
>because you cant stop throwing up but you also dk what to do to help it
Maybe a) don't eat like shit and live in a house with black mold in it, and b) don't get pregnant

Pippa Pipkin > Gawr Gura

>>102688533 (OP)
>>102690102
>>102690459
why is it always cucofans? holofans dont even see them as equals

Incidentally, in Japan, it is often said that the reason for Hololive's rapid growth is not only COVID, but also HoloARK (coco), HoloMinecraft 2nd, the Azur Lane collaboration, and the collapse of the idol-bu.
The overseas demand is said to have started from the fact that Korone and Pekora were clipped. Also, we must not forget that Pekora and Moona's relationship existed before Myth.
The sudden increase in subscribers for each talent is the achievement of Myth.

>>102691271
>drop her again
People like you should be dropped first

>>102693937
you saying saba lives with asmongold?
its not related to either of these things though. Its psychosomatic. No amount of food switching or moving will fix it. GABA-A and opioid receptors are the only effective way to make it go away.
Ive never been pregnant, so cant comment on that

>>102694014
>The sudden increase in subscribers for each talent is the achievement of Myth.
Correction: Hololive Fantasy especially Pekora and Marine.

>>102689152
VShillJew wumao hands typed this in exchange for its daily ration of pagpag

>>102694166
can't wait to collect em salt from your tears when she start to go on hiatus again when she board haha

>>102694227
>still says board after being corrected

>>102689457
I like how there are like three distinct non-sequiturs in this post on top of the blatant goalpost shifting.
Conglaturation, you are a faggot.

By the way, the reason why Hololive changed its direction to idol is largely due to the existence of the idol-bu of .LIVE.
They had a culture of throwing and reading a lot of superchat.
At the time, Hololive was weaker than not only Nijisanji but also the idol-bu.

>>102689930
>(You): *makes false claim*
>Anon: *points out why false claim is provably false*
>(You) again: *simply repeat false claim as you are immune to hearing facts*

>>102694227
>Setting himself up for grudgeposting
This isn't going to turn out well for you, Sanjay

SAAAAAR!!

Problem with Cover, with Yagoo's Dream of one upping Miku and Friends with real Talents behind the Virtual Idols is 1) They don't quite got 10-20 original songs per Idol to push in JP Idol circuit. 2) they don't have don't have 10 group songs each group at least to push on JP Idol Circuit and 3) Their Idols don't really tour the JP Idol circuit....they are kind of a Novelty

Yes Gura was was doing TV, Radio,and Billboard Ads, PSAs for Subways,train stations and Airports,doing Events like Shark Week in Tokyo Aquarium,working as a Japan Tourist Ambassador and such for last 3 years in Japan as a "Virtual Idol" but she was associated with vTubing not Idol Industry

If you missed the Last Holotalk and weren't there for members only
1) She never heard of Hololive before seeing the Ad for VAs while laid off from Disney Custodial which was a foot in door job in hopes of one day VAing a Disney Princess,as they favor Castmembers
2) She never watched anyone but Kinuna A.I. as far as vTubers (which Contradicts Senzawa being a Fabuki and Watame watcher)
3) She used to watch Hatsune Miku MMD videos as main thing to watch
4) Working at Holololive was first time she ever Streamed, performed for others,or did collabs
5) Before Hololive,she worked at Disney,and before that she was a Maid and Nanny

You know what, I forgot got the point of this post

Do you know how many Western Weeb VRChat and Facerig Streamers there were pre 2016 before Kizuna A.I. hijacked the format for Ad Revenue and called it vTubing?(ironmouse being a Facerig Streamer since 2014, Nyanners,Moe Matsuri and Senzawa in VR Chat in 2014)
In fact Nyanners was a PNG skit content creator doing a skit with Conner in 2005 (She introduced Ironmouse to Conner...and she is considered a "Traitor" here,yes?)
Japanese vTubing originated from Western Weebo shitpost here....Nyanners started here....Senzawa started here.....Moe Matsuri started here
Before VrChat and Facerig in 2014 geeks were mocapping MMD as a stars for shitpostong(2009) while full body. Filters like Ami Yamamotos Travel vlogs (YouTube 2011) and Den of Tools Bear(YouTube 2005-2020 dropped Cartoon Bear Filter to not be associated with vTubers)

Chumbuds will never live down she joined Hololive to be an Idol and not a fucken Streamer

Now she lived her Childhood dream of being an Idol like Hatsune Miku she is Now a Semi Retired Idol type, from what she said about OG songs and Concerts, and will comfy stresm
She was complaining about feeling the Indie grind and the things she has to handle behind the scenes last Donkey Kong Stream (it's new to her as her her first streaming experience was Hololive for those that miss Kiara Interview)

Is this schizo replying to himself?

>>102692104
Gura brought in an audience beyond the established vtuber niche. Call them normies if you want. And it was worldwide.

The problem with EN moving to Japan and speaking Japanese is that it's abandoning the rest of the world that understands English, which is still a huge untapped market. HoloEN's growth has stunted without someone to attract new normies. Like Niji, they are just cannibalizing themselves.

>>102688533 (OP)
So you're saying Nerissa would actually stream if she wasn't in holo?

Change of Direction?
People still hung up on virtual corporate shielding speak?
Fans would "Love" Fauna,Ame, Chloe,Aqua,Gura,and Mumei "abandoning them" cause they don't want to renew contract...or for health reasons in Memeis case....and probably Fauna slowing down as her Wedding day approaches
For those that don't know, "Difference if Direction" was meant to shield the girls as Hololive can take the hate of a few fans being mad they didn't bend over backwards to make the girls stay while supporting the girls leaving cause "bad company,grrrr"
Shit worked....until some people found out why Fauna probably really left recently
Ame never felt she was supposed to be there and without Kson there was nobody really begging her stay anymore(Kson hand picked Ame as 5th member of her EN project..for those that didn't know she was "multistaff' which is why she was so casual with Yahoo and even argued with him on air early Hololive as Coco)
The "Idol Grind" makes Idols Careers usually 5-7 years on average with age out,burn out, Injury,or health issues most common reasons why they might fall short of 5-7 years...such as Mumei's voice being damage to point she'll go mute if she keeps yapping and singing to much, Cloe,Aqua,and Gura are just done with the grind and wanted out

today i will remind them
https://files.catbox.moe/otbpik.mp4

>>102696051
LOL no

>>102696019
not only is the JP audience smaller their currency is worth jack shit for the entire time that they went for this change KEKAROO

If Hololive wasn't so successful, Gunrun wouldn't have been forced to spend charity money to try to keep up.

>>102696998
yeah dude every failed business is because of jealousy to someone else, can't be just him being a incompetent conman

>>102695248
>Working at Holololive was first time she ever Streamed, performed for others,or did collabs
Okay I can safely disregard the rest of your posts. You're just straight up bullshitting.

Gura will go back to the old ways, it happened with senzawa, it happened with gura and will happen with Saba...

Nah and Yes, sota
Gura was featured with rest of Myth and Counsel on SelenTatsuki's Apex/Overwatch Collabs and Events with Pomu,Nina,Mika,Aia,Scarle as well as the vSohjo girls,Pikamer, various Idies
What brought Selen's Events and Collabs to "PT Barnum" of VTubing levels is she Simulcasted that shit on YouTube,Twitch,Bilibili, Afreecatv,and such which bridged the Esports and vTubing fandoms during Pandemic Lockdown
Them benching Selen in 2023 and not allowing her to do Tournaments(channeling new Esports bros to Vivi and Kunai) or running events (Channeling new Esports Bros into featured vTubers and their agencies) was felt across vTubing Industry with Superchats dropping across Nijisanji EN and JP most noticeable Jan-March 2023....all over Selen saying "Fuck Nintendo" during a rant at a Tournament Simulcasted live
It's why First 2 questions asked of Dokibid was 1) Would she be back in Tournaments and 2) will she be holding Events?
The Advent and Justice Girls benefited from the Holostars being in Apex 2024 and Wrestletuber 2025...so much So FuwaMocco placed #2 with 13k paid Memberships(Gura had 4k Doki Climbed to 8,k in 10 months, Ironmouse had 321k paid subs...Gura #1 vTuber my Ass...on YouTube was Aqua at 37k memberships and $500k Superchats)

>>102688616
Fpbp

Gura wasn't taking long breaks, she was playing Idol in Japan for last 3 years
She CHOSE the Idol Projects over Streaming and gave up posting about her days in the Studio and being in Japan on X cause nobody was reading them

>>102688616

>>102697205
2 more weeks retard

If this was true there be no Kson, Chibidoki and Pipa fans

Kson brought the JP Operations Manager on Stream,asked him blunt questions,asked wheres her money,said Talents first my Ass then told the JP Operations Manager she Quits ....based

>>102696875
remind of what?

>>102692104
kiara's og design will always be laughably bad

>>102688616
No offense to Saba bros, but lets just be honest, this is pretty much all a smokescreen to dig at Cover, and she is likely to very much slow or stop streaming and then people will use that against her even though people ought to know that is her tendency. So they'll flip the script when that happens to shit on her as an ex-Holo, like a two faced gremlin waiting for an opportunity time to strike. Because the end goal has and always will be to shit on whose popular in hopes for someone they prefer to gain traction, or for the shittier people, to upend vtubing once and for all.

>>102688533 (OP)
You know vshojo is not longer paying you, right?

>>102688533 (OP)
Wtf shes already been skipping on 4 days to stream??

Gura isn't Senzawa, Senzawa went on Medical Hiatus in 7/20and only Bug(,her main Accounts vTuber Model,Senzawa is an Alt) went back to Streaming on Twitch on Semi-medical Hiatus 7/22 with no explanation why Senzawa didn't come back( some people speculated Crunchyroll Leased or outright had bought the IP cause she was supposed to be the Crunchyroll Sponsored vTuber... Crunchyroll Hime has a Blue Outfit in early mock ups before switching to company colors) 4/20 was Senzawa's pre-denut as Crunchyroll's vTuber and 4/25 was when she got blue check marked on Twitter so looks like Bug got got the Senzawa IP back though she is mostly doing Art and Music right now under different usernames when doing commissions so she'll likely never use her vTuber models again cause she said she no longer finds streaming fun as of 7/24

>>102690091
>trips to japan
:(
>trips to sweden
:D

>>102698505
holy retard

Gura got scolded by a vocal person for recording for 10 hours of Singing

Even a streamer talking for 8 hours is a long time it's why that guy that was up and talking for 30. Days was coughing up blood as he damaging his vocal chords
Mumei's Damage to her vocal chords is so bad she can go mute if she continued the Idol grind
You Vocal chords blowing out like Kiara, FuwaMocco,and Mint is also possible but since they were JP Idols that sing Falsetto it didn't effect their their Jzp Idol Career as they don't have to force that high voice any more(Mint does compress her voice to sing in her Original voice for songs like Snake Eater at about 20% her ERB level Diva Strength from her Jpop Idol, Girl Group days)

>>102688533 (OP)
Didn't she literally have this pattern in hololive where she'd go on sprees of streaming for a few weeks, then get bored and run off with her loot to do cocaine, then return a month later when the money ran out to do it over again?

>>102698926
lol your voice can't "wear out" what is this make-believe shit "oh no I talked too much waaah". You are high as hell if you buy this

>>102698926
Nigger shut up

>>102698354
No offense, but I don't care enough to decipher the meanings behind le trolling 4chan posts, and you're wrong to think she'll stop. Moreover, she's still the best EN streamer, idol (stop talking about Bae and Kiara because their whore moves are not idol-like at all), and songstress who can sing in both JP and EN (therefore mocks all Hololive talents).
You can yell till your throat stops working, but that won't change the fact that the EN girls are talentless as hell. We need someone who is actually good, not someone who uses the term "idol journey" or "idol culture" to justify poor performance.
https://gofile.io/d/F9wFnk
https://gofile.io/d/F9wFnk
https://gofile.io/d/F9wFnk

>>102688616
pretty much
>2D idols pop up
>make a lot of money
>people want a slice of that pie
>but don't want to be idols
>"eh, I'll just halfass it and then blame them"

>>102699229
Your shark is getting mogged by a brit, anon. She was never the best.

Gunruns playing Fallguy, but who signedhe checks and did the accounting?
There was 7 Venture Capital Cpanues and 85? Sponsers listed the last time I visited the Website a while ago....yesterday they had no Sponsers or Investors listed
My guess would be The Sponsers and Venture Capitalists baileled as their DEI and Pandemic Recovery free money and Credit ran out after Biden cut it off in March 2023 with final approved disbursements being as late as September 2024...last time the girls got their money regularly(so happens)
In fact Elara the Elf,who collabs with Legal Mindset sometimes, said her insider info said they was trying to get 10 million loan but Business guy dipped when the saw the outstanding debt, and They tried to sell vSohjo for 2 million, the outstanding debt to Talents and IFF but that investor dipped cause of how financials were handled (,Such as Embezzlement of Charity money to help sick people from a sick person that trusted them.....not touching that grounds for Lawsuit by Ironmouse and IDF or Federal and State investigation(

Ironmouse has 37k paid subscriptions as of 7/24
Think Saba is at 11k while FuwaMocco is at 13k

>>102699444
hard to take anything you say seriously with an english that bad

>>102688533 (OP)
>Pippafag
Such a pathetic fanbase. I genuinely don't understand why the phase talents tolerate this shite.

>>102688533 (OP)
>many
Words mean nothing huh

>>102699518

>>102699444
SEAfag...

If you guys are going to keep being Holodrones then I'm going to keep saying Mumei is unironically autistic.

>>102688533 (OP)
>>102690102
>>102690459
>Posted by a phasefag
Every fucking time

>>102688616
Yup. Corpo VTuber agencies were always about cashing in on that Hatsune Miku idol format. The streams are just marketing to foster a relationship with their customers so that they are herded into concerts with tickets worth 100s of dollars.

>>102688533 (OP)
>viewers dropping down like crazy
Whats going on?

>>102700461
are you retarded?

But aren't girls the cutest when they are almost retarded?

>>102701022
No. But unironically autistic? Yes!

>>102701022
*looks at nerissa*
mmm definitely NO

>>102688533 (OP)
Give her a few more weeks, and she'll go back to not streaming. I guarantee it.

>>102701346
2 more weeks kek

>>102701389
Bro it's only been like 1 week since she debuted.
If she can keep consistently streaming for a year, I'll admit I was wrong

>>102701441
almost nobody does that, just look at the current state of holoEN. don't expect too much

>ctrl + f gura
>22
>ctrl + f saba
>6
stop deadnaming her chuds

Nope, I was there for the "Moose" Stream...you fuckers took it way out of context it was a s Among us joke she misspelt "Moose is SuS"
The Gura is Senzawa bullshit went viral in early 2021 cause fuckers was to rabid about putting a face to an unknown talent on half assrd correlation
It isn't helping your delusions that Bug actually is friends with the Hololive,vSohjo,Phase,and Idol girls cause she's work with them and helped redirect chumbuds to Saba's account
Againg Gura told Kiara never heard of Hololive till she applied,(she was laid off from Disney at time in Members Only version of Story)
This Contradicts Senzawa watching Watame and Fabuki and playing Dcatms. And Blablonks on 4/19/20 stream,(which I was there)
Guraa told Kiara she never sang in front of people other then family which Contradicts Bug turning Senzawa being her music and Singing shitpost account and then parking her on Twitch Sings from 2018-2020 as her Karaoke Nights thing(Bug Main account was for Art and Just Chatting)
Gura told Kiara she only ever watched Kizuna A.I. as far as vTubers...which again Contradicts Senzawa watching Holo JP,
Gura said she didn't associate with people or stream before Hololive....Senzawa used to sing ditties and do video shitposts on NPster in 1999, Used Leave of Legends Chat to talk to people in 2009(?), hang out in VR Chat in 2014, opened a Discord in 2015(though she still leaves LOL
Also if you ever watched a Senzawa/Bug Stream you see her doing her stream check and testing her avatar interface as she didn't have a waiting room screen.....That "A" heard around the world was cause Gura was having technical issues and zhololive was helping her troubleshoot it(Giura talked about that)....
Senzawa wouldn't have been nervous and would have known what to do to troubleshoot her issue cause she been streaming since 2014 and is an outravert begging the voters for 1 more star in Twitch Karaoke when she didn't agree she sucked
Gura can't Rap for shit, Senzawa can't sing for shit.. what are you guys smoking to think these 2 girls are the same person?

>>102701714
NTA but I’ll apologise too if she can keep up with Biboo’s streaming schedule. Hell, I’ll even cut my balls if she can do that.

>>102702322
NTA but I expect more like a Nerissa streaming schedule rather than a Biboo one. Strong early start but huge fall off after a couple months

>>102702453
Well considering her track record you can expect no more streams in August to October. How hard she makes a mini come back no idea.

Sure it's not a reading comprehension problem?
Most people can work around ESL
I pity those who can't(yes my non Anon username is a Towa Meme,not Frequently Asked Questions)

She isn't playing Idol in Japan anymore and these plans to make OG songs and doing concerts seem years away if ever as she's complaining about doing everything herself behind the scenes and is still trying to settle in to being and Indie and her own boss for first time

>>102694227
i wish the black death upon your mother, pajeet

>>102688616
>it's idol culture and lazy retards who sign with the idol corpo who don't even want to be idols
Cover is still following the AKB48 style of being a traditional idol company. Yagoo doesn't even like traditional idol culture and he would like Hololive to be closer to the Nijisanji business model. The constant merch shilling is them attempting to move away from unicorns but casual fans are not going to spend money on a 66 talent gacha. The company is so bloated with unnecessary costs that they have to be an idol company with all the negatives that includes. HoloEarth was likely an attempt to get other revenue sources but in the short term it's a huge cost that requires more idol style GFE content.

>>102702840
y wud i bover tryinn tu unnerstan whut dis stnenance sesss if ther rr bee numul 1s 2 reed?

Bibo was a "Gura Killer" in the Ccv, Gigi too
FuwaMocco was the "Gura Killer," with 13k Memberships vs Guras ,4k and Saba's 11k and FuaMocco made 480k in Superchats
I didn't expect the House Warming Guests to do so soon and was thinking we wouldn't see the Kaniki ccv and views for 6 months, not ,2 weeks ( 37k ccv peak, 6.7k ccv average, 321k views average, peak 585k views for non music videos or events (that got full 2 mill EN views or 6 million total Hololive virws
Donkey Kong is at 12k-16k ccv

>>102700393
Especially after they went public, numbers don't lie concerts, merch, voice packs, events and sponsors are the most bang for your buck and it adds a shit ton of corporate prestige over individuals streaming. Share holders demand highest ROI, streaming as you said is nothing but marketing, not surprising that EN barely streams too busy behind the scenes preparing to shill and only play games to keep relevant.
I'd bet each talent had a personal meeting or call with the higher ups or Yagoo himself to walk and talk them through the new corporate direction show them the numbers. I'm going to bet all the talent that has left Aqua, Ame, Chloe, Fauna,Shion, Mumeo, Gura all made their minds up and didn't want to do that.

Watch the last Kiara Holotalk talk interview with Gura
When Kiara blurted Gura wasnt the person she was expecting at Ame's house off collab(which got cut of Vod) Gura sounded so defeated cause you guys bullied her into being Senzawa wether she likes it or not...had to tell you guys "Okay, but can you keep it a Secret?" Just to to get you guys to stop harassing her to sing Country Roads
And as aspiring VA she can do many voices including Senzawa's one though if you notice as Saba she has lost her,um, "gurrr" ad is an active higher?(I'm surprised she didn't use her real voice as Saba which she did use once in Members only to make a point that Gura's voice is a Character voice)
Be funny if she slowly slips to her real voice which will only be jarring to not regular watchers

>>102703222
holo will never catch up with NijiJP without a major change in policy (we don't talk about EN on both sides, it's a disaster)

That boiler plate statement was so Hololive took the hate for the girls wanting to leave instead of the girls
50% IP revenue, 41.6% Merch, 66,% voice packs are the Talent cuts in Hololive vs 80% across the board in Phase, Idol,Brave and OTK, Glitch Stars and Mythic only taking 15% of Sponsors they land....or go Inde and it's all yours after YouTube's cut (,real hard decision come Contract renewal time,)

Pff
2/3 of the overall audience bailed with Doki,Mint,Matara,and Michi....they were also 99% of the $100-$1000 spam superchatters,99,% of live audience traveling around the world to live events(,and still are)
All that's left is the 92% Fudishis that buy the shitty merch of the guys that was 79% of business in 2023 but they had to do extra sale drives to hide the Superchat income lost as a "minor revenue decrease" and they ommitted EN in Financial graphs
The girls don't do well merch wise except the Kawaii ones the gayly and Bi Fudohis like...Aia and Scarle are last 2 of Selen's Apex/Overwatch group with their Esports Bros watching Scarle frost a cake with her ass or whatever

>>102689152
>board of streaming

>>102704450
50% of millions is still more than 80 of treefiddie

just ignore the ESL schizo namefag, jesus fucking christ

>>102705917
are you bored yet?

>>102688533 (OP)
another case of 0.6% shittalk other corpo while acting their corpo the hotshit
while another 0.6% gonna TURTHNUKE/it's actually phase anti/holofags

>>102705940
Don't you mean "board"?

>>102705917
I've seen this faggot on YouTube spreading this shit as well. Goes by the names Farmer777Frank, you usually see him on anything Gura, Saba, or Senzawa related. Link to this retard's video claiming Senzawa is Munibug. Just read the comments.
https://youtu.be/pYsJPZ0z4bM?feature=shared

>>102695248
>Working at Holololive was first time she ever Streamed, performed for others,or did collabs
Holy fuck doesn't even know the most open and surface level Gura lore and bro writing essays over here