Doki said false rumors initially hampered her post-redebut networking - /vt/ (#102707034) [Archived: 167 hours ago]

Anonymous
7/25/2025, 5:40:05 PM No.102707034
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Which ones was she thinking of specifically?
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Anonymous
7/25/2025, 5:42:59 PM No.102707130
>>102707034 (OP)
That she hated Nijisanji. She just wanted to move on which she said many times because she knew both sides were at fault
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Anonymous
7/25/2025, 5:47:57 PM No.102707309
in her mind
>BPD
>causes trouble for her family
>evil person
>drama whore
>fakes suicide every few months
in reality though none of those are false
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Anonymous
7/25/2025, 5:48:29 PM No.102707327
>>102707130
Wait. You mean that corporations never really liked the image many were touting of her as the great revolutionary messiah who would smash all of the industry's bad actors and lead the scene into a new golden age built upon their ashes? Fuck.
Anonymous
7/25/2025, 5:51:27 PM No.102707429
>>102707309
Well she eventually won those sponsors over, so clearly she did something right.
Anonymous
7/25/2025, 5:55:14 PM No.102707565
>>102707309
Has Doki said she has BPD or is that just speculated?
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Anonymous
7/25/2025, 5:56:43 PM No.102707618
>>102707565
A self-diagnosis made on Twatter bio 6 years ago. Take it with a huge grain of salt.
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Anonymous
7/25/2025, 6:02:07 PM No.102707823
>>102707565
I thought that was just from the infamous black screen video which was full of bullshit.
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Anonymous
7/25/2025, 6:06:18 PM No.102707974
>>102707618
Really self disgnosis?
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Anonymous
7/25/2025, 6:08:22 PM No.102708057
>>102707823
proving most of you didn't even watch the stream eh
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Anonymous
7/25/2025, 6:09:13 PM No.102708093
>https://youtu.be/n5UAeSkO91A
>Pushes back against the idea of indie supremacy.
>Says that she has cried from her overwork.
>Was initially jealous of other ex-Nijis getting corpo offers.
Guys... I think she isn't nearly as anti-corpo as indiekek retards here sometimes make her out to be.
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Anonymous
7/25/2025, 6:18:46 PM No.102708410
>>102707034 (OP)
all the rumors are the only reason anybody gave a fuck about her on redebut
she should be glad her alt got astroturfed instead of crying about random ethots not replying to her dms
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Anonymous
7/25/2025, 6:26:50 PM No.102708695
>>102708093
She always advocated for their existence. Even in one Q&A stream done after her termination and the black screen, she never once said
>FUCK CORPOS, ALL CORPOS DESERVE TO DIE
Doki still said that there are very valid reasons to sign up for one and that they can grant you opportunities that could otherwise be impossible to get as an indie. She really didn't damage NijiEN as much as it was the drama tourists and multiple ex-Nijis like Matara, Kuro, Michi, Mint, Sayu, and Quinn who tried to play the victim card in order replicate her level of success. Not to mention people like Uki and Twisty that went full retard, or people like Luca's ex mod who somehow was sent screencaps about Aster and Scarle's conversations.
Anonymous
7/25/2025, 6:28:31 PM No.102708746
>>102708093
iirc she praised hololive and indie sides, i imagine if she joined hololive she could have squeezed it trying to get a lot of sponsors and with decent managers she wouldn't have gotten in the red every time because she can't sing for shit but i'm happy she tries
Anonymous
7/25/2025, 6:28:33 PM No.102708747
>>102707974
*diagnosis
Anonymous
7/25/2025, 6:28:35 PM No.102708751
>>102707309
i'm fairly certain niji fanboys have said all that shit every single day on /vt/ since she left niji.
Anonymous
7/25/2025, 6:30:40 PM No.102708820
>>102707034 (OP)
Sounds like you standard mean girls tier rumors disseminated among other vtubers. I'm not sure she was talking about actual sponsors, since those came flocking in quite soon and never stopped

>there was a lot of false rumors and narratives being spread about me behind the scenes and I remember someone approaching me about some of the false rumors and I had to provide them like proof and actual like personal documents to show that it was false and it was very crazy like some of the malicious stuff that was like spread about me that weren't even true that was said about me behind my back and spread around during that time
https://www.youtube.com/live/oKkkxbrRcog&t=606
Anonymous
7/25/2025, 7:01:38 PM No.102709883
>>102707565
>>102707309
Damn, I hope she isn't actually a BPDchan. It's basically incurable and I've never seen someone with it have non-toxic close relationships with anyone.
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Anonymous
7/25/2025, 7:12:14 PM No.102710278
>>102709883
BPD, like many of the other disorders of its ilk, is classified as a personality disorder in the DSM-5. Personalty Disorders are not traditionally curable because they are a combination of cognitions, observable behaviors, and belief systems that coalesce in a recognizable pattern. Bipolar Disorder is a Mood Disorder, a different functional classification. Personality Disorders also pertain to things like Narcissistic Personality Disorder (NPD), Histrionic Personality Disorder (HPD), etc. The more toxic and negative patterns of these personality disorders can be tempered and diminished with therapeutic intervention, though mileage can vary depending on what the patient has experienced throughout their lifespan since strongly held core beliefs and learned patterns of behavior can be counteractive to therapy.

Doki has never been thoroughly proven to possess any form of disorder, actually. Everyone latches onto the BPD in her profile from half a decade ago because it's all anyone can pin on her. The public will never have access to any of her medical records so they can only explain away extreme behaviors they don't understand with a diagnosis they also don't understand. Ask about BPD on this board. 99% of them won't actually know what it is and what the typical pattern of presentation may be.
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Anonymous
7/25/2025, 7:25:59 PM No.102710839
>>102708093
Because anyone who actually watches her knows she has never leaned into that in her streams aside from the harmless off-hand joke. When she did her stream about giving vtubing advice (source: https://www.youtube.com/live/gsnI3zuUbTY?si=I3LuHw-OL85jTC6B), she consistently provided the pros and the cons to being a corpo vtuber vs. sticking it out as an indie. Contrary to what the average sub-90 IQ dramatard would have you believe, Doki has done nothing to damage the reputation of corpos outside of her explosive termination. There are only two other ex-Nijis that have done little to involve themselves in Nijisanji EN reputational damage: Kyrio Cifer and U-san.

1. Matara Kan: has repeatedly spoken about the rabid fans of Nijisanji being a primary motivator for her departure atop "creative differences" and wanting to establish a safe space for her fans, has also brought up a lack of due payments from merchandise of her

2. K9 Kuro: one of the causes behind the 2% merch revenue rrat

3. Michi Mochievee: provided insight into her working conditions and lack of payment + support from the main branch after the dissolution of Nijisanji ID and the members' consequent absorption into Nijisanji Global.

4. Quinn Bennett: raised the suspicion bar on Aster Arcadia of his own free will with no prompting. Also accused Nijifans of being batshit.

5. Sunny: exposed that management would have the talents lie about their family status because they think sharing information about having a single parent would "sadden the audience"

6. Mogu: contributed to rrats about Niji talents being broke after her leaked members' stream, involved in the Sajam Slam that exposed Niji's firm instructions to NOT interact with Doki at all

7. Maid Mint: legendary Niji members' stream that got private after attention was brought to her having an opportunity robbed from her. There's a few more things but this is the most significant.

Everyone else has consciously done more things to hurt Niji than Doki has. Dramafucks just parade Doki like a champion's banner but the real damage comes from the various fanbases of different ex-talents all holding different pieces of the puzzle.
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Anonymous
7/25/2025, 7:27:49 PM No.102710921
>>102708057
what do you expect from the kind of retards who convinced themselves the tazumi video was an apology to investors
Anonymous
7/25/2025, 7:29:53 PM No.102711006
>>102707823
Black stream had no specific mention of any real diagnosis. Closest people got was when they said they "knew" her reason for being hospitalized but they also didn't want to admit they knew it was self-harm.
Anonymous
7/25/2025, 7:29:57 PM No.102711009
>>102710278
What about autism?
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Anonymous
7/25/2025, 7:31:56 PM No.102711091
>>102711009
You know the DSM-5 is viewable online, right? You can see it for yourself. Autism Spetrum Disorder is under the classification of Neurodevelopmental Disorders, right up there with ADHD.
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Anonymous
7/25/2025, 7:33:21 PM No.102711149
>>102711091
But are you saying all the anons here saying this chuuba and that chuuba have autism are bullshit?
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Anonymous
7/25/2025, 7:36:53 PM No.102711289
>>102711149
There are chuubas who claim to have it. And if they talk about their lived experiences with the disorder, then we can only assume they really do have it. But it's up to the individual person to determine whether they think it's real or if it's BS. Like if I listen to Marimari's stories of the past and she'll toss in a few mentions of autism then I'll believe her. But if all the evidence for "Doki has BPD" is a single 5-year old screenshot, then I don't give a shit.
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Anonymous
7/25/2025, 7:38:27 PM No.102711350
>>102711289
I suspect some chuubas have autism.
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Anonymous
7/25/2025, 7:40:56 PM No.102711444
>>102711350
Then continue to suspect it. Who tf really cares, at the end of the day? If you enjoy watching your oshi and she turns out to be autistic, then that's just how things are.
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Anonymous
7/25/2025, 7:42:15 PM No.102711501
>>102711444
Maybe I enjoy watching them BECAUSE of their autism. Think about that!
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Anonymous
7/25/2025, 7:43:16 PM No.102711541
>>102711501
Good for you, anon.
Anonymous
7/25/2025, 7:44:43 PM No.102711590
>>102707618
Didn't her parents not let her see a therapist? How would she get diagnosed? Probably diagnosed via Wikipedia if anything. If we let teenaged girls self-diagnose, ask 10 girls and you'll find 31 conditions.
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Anonymous
7/25/2025, 7:44:55 PM No.102711600
Was this the reason for her 2nd attempt after leaving Niji?
Anonymous
7/25/2025, 7:48:18 PM No.102711736
>>102711590
Oops, meant to reply to the comment above that one >>102707565
Anonymous
7/25/2025, 7:51:35 PM No.102711863
>>102708410
Retard
Anonymous
7/25/2025, 7:51:57 PM No.102711882
>>102710278
>Ask about BPD on this board. 99% of them won't actually know what it is and what the typical pattern of presentation may be.
That's what led me down the rabbit hole of looking into patterns of presentation of BPD. Interestingly enough, there is a 4-subtypes model of which the highest-functioning type (internalized) was the only one that remotely matched Doki. Basically, instead of lashing out at the world on a constant basis as is the stereotype, it presents as a looming cloud of self-doubt and autoflagellation that descends on the sufferer as a reaction to external traumatic triggers. That's when stuff like self-harm, suicidal ideation and reckless behaviour crop up. Beyond that, internalized BPs tend to be surprisingly magnetic and sociable among peers and have a strong work ethic as forms of compensation for their minute self-esteems. I just can't shake how familiar that all is.

This is all just armchair psychology on my part, granted. But it is the best way I can square it with her serious commitment to the importance of mental health which suggests there is something more substantive than a mere self-diagnosis going on. Could she have mistakenly BPD as a shorthand for say bipolar disorder as many often do? Conceivably, but the way she so easily flips from elated to dejected affect in the space of seconds strikes me as far more like borderline than bipolar. But yeah, we can never be sure without any public medical records or other confirmation on her part beyond a brief mention in an old bio.
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Anonymous
7/25/2025, 8:05:38 PM No.102712477
>>102707034 (OP)
...arent these the exact same things Sayu said happened to her? Like exactly the same. Only she wasn't able to convince people they were false
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Anonymous
7/25/2025, 8:07:18 PM No.102712551
>>102710839
After a certain other Mint memboo stream it was revealed they robbed her of TWO one-in-a-lifetime opportunities. one she knew about was some idol album thing, the other she only learned after graduating it was a Metal Gear collab. In both cases the company just stonewalled her for no reason
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Anonymous
7/25/2025, 8:13:40 PM No.102712821
>>102712551
Maybe Konami just wasn't paying them enough for the collab?
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Anonymous
7/25/2025, 8:29:59 PM No.102713438
>>102707034 (OP)
Probably the idea that the dragoons are like a fanatically loyal digital army she commands to destroy anyone who wrongs her. In reality, the core group of dragoons themselves only rarely get involved in digital flame wars, and do so in a disciplined manner. Most of the shitflinging in her name comes from the anti-corpo orbiters and dramafags who orbit them. Such perceived power makes corpos nervous
Anonymous
7/25/2025, 8:41:36 PM No.102713883
>>102710278
In the same vein, the only reason you can make claims that it's all self-diagnosis and she doesn't REALLY have it is because you don't have access to any of her medical records either. There's nothing to suggest that she could not have received a diagnosis at some point during her life, all we have is her word and her word says she was "living with BPD". Kinda ableist to immediately try to deny that because it might make her "look bad", don't you think?
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Anonymous
7/25/2025, 9:02:01 PM No.102714485
>>102708093
The "anti-corpo" angle was always dishonest, pushed by people who already wanted to smear the reputation of another corpo and tried to turn the Selen drama into that.
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Anonymous
7/25/2025, 9:03:50 PM No.102714525
>>102707565
Yes, she has said. Yes, the people coping about it being a self diagnosis have no proof and are lying
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Anonymous
7/25/2025, 9:05:45 PM No.102714581
>>102711882
complex ptsd is frequently misdiagnosed as bpd, too
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Anonymous
7/25/2025, 9:07:08 PM No.102714632
>>102714581
>ptsd
she was in a war or something?
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Anonymous
7/25/2025, 9:07:18 PM No.102714638
>>102712477
except s*yu lied about literally everything and has just exposed herself as an industry plant
Anonymous
7/25/2025, 9:07:26 PM No.102714643
>>102714485
Speak for yourself. I genuinely am looking for a card-carrying, anti-corpo chuuba who can entertain my schizo delusions of all out war.
Anonymous
7/25/2025, 9:10:09 PM No.102714737
>>102712477
Pretty much
Anonymous
7/25/2025, 9:12:29 PM No.102714812
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>>102714525
Autism and BPD seem to go together like bread and butter.
Anonymous
7/25/2025, 9:16:03 PM No.102714940
>>102710839
Not only were the first three paid by Vshojo to shit on Nijisanji but Kyrio and Quinn both debunked Matara's claim, Kuro admitted to embellishing things for drama and Michi literally never said anything like that about payment

Quinn is quite literally dancing to Nijisanji music every other stream

Sunny has said that they didn't force her to do that and it was because they wanted her to play a character and she was okay with it

Mogu being sad on stream isn't a sleight against Nijisanji, you fucking retard. Apes pretending she's sad because she made no money did that on their own. And only retards wouldn't understand why they want to avoid direct interactions with terminated members

Also Mint was a triple agent

>Everyone else has consciously done more things to hurt Niji than Doki has
Sure. Pinning suicide attempts on the company, accusing them of breaking the law multiple times and directly accusing talents of being bullies all didn't do as much damage as Vivi being sad on stream. Retard
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Anonymous
7/25/2025, 9:17:07 PM No.102714987
>>102711590
She was already in her twenties
Anonymous
7/25/2025, 9:19:12 PM No.102715058
>>102714940
>Holy delusion. As Victoria Brightshield, she literally said that the "suits upstairs" don't care about her and dared the company to fire her. Dokibird and her dragoons are remarkably restrained in their hostility to the company that fired her - do you think sayu would have denounced an animation showing her dancing in front of a beaten up Kotoka?
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Anonymous
7/25/2025, 9:22:22 PM No.102715168
>>102715058
Not only is that not what you said the first time but saying that higher ups don't know she exists is nowhere near as bad as calling active talents bullies and pining suicide attempts at them. Sayu being a spiteful whore doesn't mean Doki didn't intentionally deal the most damage to Nijisanji's reputation. Get fucking real
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Anonymous
7/25/2025, 9:24:11 PM No.102715241
>>102714940
I love how "Mint is a triple agent" is a legit argument that someone is trying to use on a VTuber argument.
Makes this whole thing seem like a Jason Bourne movie instead of dumbass autistic streamers.
Anonymous
7/25/2025, 9:25:21 PM No.102715279
>>102715168
If Nijisanji didn't want Dokibird's accusations to go public, all they had to do was not elaborate on its contents. We know more about the legal packet Dokibird sent to Nijisanji from Nijisanji itself than from Dokibird
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Anonymous
7/25/2025, 9:26:48 PM No.102715336
>>102715279
They had the habit of oversharing when terminating Selen and Zaion
Anonymous
7/25/2025, 9:29:14 PM No.102715425
>>102715279
Doki threatened to make it all public if Nijisanji didn't do what she said. So it would have been known anyways, just worse because it'd be coming straight from the pig's mouth
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Anonymous
7/25/2025, 9:32:22 PM No.102715522
>>102715425
Source? Doki has never shown intentions of revealing most of the stuff Niji did, least of all the private legal document that Elira blabbed about.
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Anonymous
7/25/2025, 9:33:31 PM No.102715559
>>102707034 (OP)
I wonder if this is why the exes are in their own bubble, it's Indies being shitty to them rather than them being too stuck up to interact with Indies.
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Anonymous
7/25/2025, 9:34:54 PM No.102715607
>>102715522
The termination notice that flat out said that it's what she said? Saying something in public is way different than in private. After all, Mint was talking about being "indie" for a year
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Anonymous
7/25/2025, 9:39:58 PM No.102715795
>>102714940
NTA but while some of your claims do have validity to them, and you can definitely make the valid argument the Doki could have done more to protect the more innocent Nijis that were in the blast radius, most of the ex-Nijis from 2023-2024 did a lot more to feed dramafags than Doki ever did with her termination. There's tons of clips of Matara and Michi traumadumping, never mind the fact that Matara kept on vagueposting live on stream about how "there's only one person in old Hollywood that I really view as a friend" or something along those lines. Sunny may have been okay with playing a character, but she insinuated heavily during her "old heist" that she barely made shit off of merch, if anything at all. I'm sure there's also clips of Kuro being unhappy and he has since stated that he embellished his claims for views, but I don't think that makes him that much better than Doki at all. Mint also unprivated a members stream where she broke down over losing a "once in a lifetime opportunity" before she left, and Sayu has a laundry list of attacks on the company.

You may see Quinn dancing every stream, but you're also forgetting the fact that he will throw anyone under the bus whenever he feels like he can benefit from it; he said that being in the company was like "being in a nightmare" on his redebut, he vagueposted about Aster before he walked back those claims, and recently he claimed that Gunrun used him to get one person to leave NijiEN to join Vshojo, while ghosting him after the fact (before he deleted the VOD a day later). Point being, the people I listed did leagues more to hurt NijiEN than Selen ever did.
And it isn't like Selen made them give out two follow up termination notices, one of which was where they publicly said the loss of one of their talents was "negligible" which is a PR blunder in itself. Or the black screen stream where tried to get ahead of the story and shared way more information than Doki did.
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Anonymous
7/25/2025, 9:40:59 PM No.102715824
>>102715607
Did you actually read that notice? Immediately after the "Selen will release a public statement", it states exactly what Nijisanji believes Selen will go public with, and proceeds to smear he with so, so much more than that scope.
Not to mention that none of this explains even in the least bit about Elira blabbing on about the private legal document.
I hope you know that the notice is still online and all of us can see what exactly it says rather than trusting your word on it.
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Anonymous
7/25/2025, 9:42:29 PM No.102715879
>>102707034 (OP)
Dookie
Anonymous
7/25/2025, 9:44:00 PM No.102715933
>>102715824
>it states exactly what Nijisanji believes Selen will go public with
Then she did it word for word the exact same way Nijisanji said she would do it
>Private legal document
Nothing went to court. Nothing was legally private except her medical records which Doki herself admitted they didn't show anyone. Also something true can't be a smear, you retard
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Anonymous
7/25/2025, 9:52:03 PM No.102716212
>>102707034 (OP)
the rumor that she tried to kill herself.
Anonymous
7/25/2025, 9:57:49 PM No.102716428
>>102715933
Let me remind you about the post you responded to:
>If Nijisanji didn't want Dokibird's accusations to go public, all they had to do was not elaborate on its contents. We know more about the legal packet Dokibird sent to Nijisanji from Nijisanji itself than from Dokibird
Which you responded to with your weird ass post about how poor Niji had to in order to get ahead of the evil Dokibird. Not a single bit of that applied to the legal document at all. Selen was never going to release the legal document. Nijisanji literally hung themselves with that rope by having Elira read it.
Also:
>Then she did it word for word the exact same way Nijisanji said she would do it
Stop moving the goalpost. What I said was "they smeared Selen with way more than what they thought she was going to release". Your attempted defense doesn't even address this.
The point is, every piece of rope that Niji used to hang themselves with came from themselves. Doki barely even said anything, and if Niji had just sent a generic termination message with maybe the generic "we investigated and found no abuse" or even "we'll make some unspecified changes in light of this" the whole situation would have blown over in a week or two. If Elira didn't release the black screen we would have all forgotten in like a month or two. Niji themselves fell on the sword so hard it became comedic.
Nothing you said changed any of this. Doki's initial "I was bullied" was a softball and easy to manage by any competent PR team. Niji themselves were solely at fault for this whole thing spinning into the shitshow it became.
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Anonymous
7/25/2025, 10:00:35 PM No.102716522
>>102715425
This post has asian roastie written all over it. "Straight from the pig's mouth" is not any kind of western phrasing.
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Anonymous
7/25/2025, 10:03:35 PM No.102716615
>>102716428
>Selen was never going to release the legal document.
>Multiple members saying Selen threatened to make it public
>Selen herself: "What they don't know is that I have receipts. It's a shame that now I will have to make those public. I will be releasing the document that me and my lawyer prepared together"

Still waiting btw

>every piece of rope that Niji used to hang themselves with came from themselves
No. Pining suicide attempts on them while crying about bullying came straight from Fatlen's mouth

>Any good PR team would easily be able to handle an ex worker publicly calling everyone in the company bullies while blaming her suicide attempts on them
lol. I have never seen a fanbase be so against learning more about what happened behind the scenes. It's been a year and I'm still waiting for that promised evidence Doki talked about
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Anonymous
7/25/2025, 10:05:13 PM No.102716677
>>102716615
NTA, but Dokibird is actually too moderate for my liking. I would rather her be more aggressive in taking on Nijisanji and corpos in general. Instead she has distanced herself from the anti-corpo movement, so I am looking for other, more radical indies to supplement her with.
Anonymous
7/25/2025, 10:08:20 PM No.102716776
>>102707309
>>102707565
Glad to know companies come and go, but our local tranny activate his only neuron to post the same samefag every time she hears Doki.
Rent free.
Anonymous
7/25/2025, 10:10:14 PM No.102716853
>>102716522
it's a play on words. (the punchline is "Doki is a pig".)
Anonymous
7/25/2025, 10:10:19 PM No.102716857
>>102711882
>>102716615
>>102715795
>>102716428
I forgot these ones, Literally same shit different day. The only one with BPD here is you, this has gone on for 2 years and only touristfags take you seriously.
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Anonymous
7/25/2025, 10:13:53 PM No.102716963
>>102716615
>>Multiple members saying Selen threatened to make it public
LOL what, timestamps please. If this was true the Niji fanbase would have plastered it all over the board back then, and no one said a peep about it.

>>Selen herself: "What they don't know is that I have receipts. It's a shame that now I will have to make those public. I will be releasing the document that me and my lawyer prepared together"
Did you get the timeline wrong? Doki said that AFTER the Black Screen stream got released, in direct response to the black screen. Trying to rewrite history doesn't help you at all.

>>every piece of rope that Niji used to hang themselves with came from themselves
>No. Pining suicide attempts on them while crying about bullying came straight from Fatlen's mouth
>>Any good PR team would easily be able to handle an ex worker publicly calling everyone in the company bullies while blaming her suicide attempts on them
The only thing that Selen said was that bullying in the company led to her suicide attempt. She did not say who, how many people, how many people know, or anything else. That's one of the easiest PR team handles you can have.
You know, as well as I do, that Niji's own termination statement with the multiple paragraphs of mudflinging was when public opinion REALLY turned against the company, and the Elira black screen stream sealed it. Actual Nijisanji fans in that black screen stream were calling it out by the middle of it. That's how bad of a blunder both were.
Not enough time has passed to rewrite history like this yet. People still remember and have receipts of what happened back then.
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Anonymous
7/25/2025, 10:16:00 PM No.102717026
>>102716963
When did she say it was an actual suicide attempt and not just self harm?
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Anonymous
7/25/2025, 10:16:20 PM No.102717036
>>102716857
You're right, I don't even know why I still respond to these people. I guess I still need to work on not getting baited.
Anonymous
7/25/2025, 10:18:28 PM No.102717100
>>102717026
Fair point, I was giving that poster as much grace as possible to prove a point, though getting baited by stuff in the first place in 2025 proves that I still have a lot of maturing to do.
Anonymous
7/25/2025, 10:27:23 PM No.102717411
>>102716963
>LOL what, timestamps please
The black stream you seethe about daily
>Doki said that AFTER the Black Screen stream got released, in direct response to the black screen
So she did threaten to release the document? I accept your concession
>She did not say who, how many people, how many people know, or anything else
That's exactly what made it that bad
>when public opinion REALLY turned against the company, and the Elira black screen stream sealed it
Delusional
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Anonymous
7/25/2025, 10:35:26 PM No.102717696
When I still watched vtubers I liked Selen most. Now that I am well over watching them I can't help but think she is peak manipulative bitch.
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Anonymous
7/25/2025, 10:53:57 PM No.102718322
>>102717696
Why are you still here if you don't watch them anymore?
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Anonymous
7/25/2025, 10:55:19 PM No.102718378
>>102718322
>The only vtuber you're allowed to watch is Doki
Anonymous
7/25/2025, 10:56:30 PM No.102718414
>>102718322
Vshojo drama and the married holo drama. First one is interesting and second is peak comedy to me.
Anonymous
7/25/2025, 10:59:30 PM No.102718507
>>102714632
All you need is to experience a traumatic event that would be distressing to anyone. Could be war, natural disaster, rape, domestic violence. Incidentally, it is now understood that personality disorders in general are often precipitated by such traumas. This renders that as a rationale to reclassify BPD as CPTSD largely moot.
>>102716857
You don't need to lump me in with the Sisters just because I don't stick my head in the sand over it like dragoons do in the general. The nuances I highlighted really just dismantle the narrative antis push to elicit visceral reaction to online stereotypes of the disorder. It's unfortunate that both parties would rather assume the worst of such a diagnosis rather than evaluate it for its own merits independent of how one instinctually feels about the notion.
Anonymous
7/25/2025, 11:03:50 PM No.102718618
>>102707034 (OP)
THE SCHIZO BPD bitch is the one that spread false rumors about coworkers "bullying" her. The only reason she is as relevant now is because she successfully played a victim of a corpo and took no responsibility.
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Anonymous
7/25/2025, 11:06:06 PM No.102718706
>>102718618
>she successfully played a victim of a corpo and took no responsibility
It is pretty weird how part of her streaming gimmick was that her mom is kinda evil and abusive....
Anonymous
7/25/2025, 11:20:18 PM No.102719198
>>102712821
the rrats in my head say sorry to bait you but I'm not eating another 600-900s post timer
Anonymous
7/25/2025, 11:23:37 PM No.102719299
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md5: ab3baf97996d8f0f6b7cc7eebb6d95f3🔍
>>102707565
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anticorpo schizo
7/25/2025, 11:24:47 PM No.102719336
>>102719299
Her having BPD makes me unironically like her more. "Neurodivergant" is the buzzword way of saying "not a normalfag"
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Anonymous
7/25/2025, 11:27:19 PM No.102719420
>>102719336
BPD isn't like aspergers or being on the spectrum. It can be terrifying to the people who have to experience someone with it.
Anonymous
7/25/2025, 11:30:28 PM No.102719524
>>102707034 (OP)
>hampered her post-redebut networking
The fuck is she talking about? Literally everyone was bending over backwards to get a chance at clout chasing her immediately following the redebut
Even chuubas that don't have any overlap in genre or interests with Doki wanted to get in on it, it was kind of embarrassing to watch to be honest
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Anonymous
7/25/2025, 11:32:13 PM No.102719588
>>102707565
>had it on her bio
>cried about personal medical records when black stream happened
>admitted to being mentally ill when the computer drama happened
Anonymous
7/25/2025, 11:37:56 PM No.102719805
>>102719524
Its possible she's referring to professional networking. In that aspect its understandable that she may have been screwed over a bit by the Black screen stream
Anonymous
7/25/2025, 11:38:31 PM No.102719826
>>102719524
Yeah this is a baffling comment
Anonymous
7/25/2025, 11:39:10 PM No.102719848
>>102707034 (OP)
>vshojo going up in flames
>how can I make this about me
Fucking grifter bitch
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Anonymous
7/25/2025, 11:48:42 PM No.102720169
>>102719848
EVERY non-holo streamer worth his or her salt is talking about Vshojo's implosion and how it relates to them. From Filian to Chibidoki to Clio. If anything, Doki is slightly more entitled to speak than any of those three due to being an ex-Niji and Mint's best friend.
Anonymous
7/26/2025, 12:44:42 AM No.102722578
>>102719524
people forgot that ironmouse and some of vshojo members and lots of corpo vtubers avoided her like a plague.
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Anonymous
7/26/2025, 12:46:57 AM No.102722682
>>102722578
people needed some time to see which approach would be the more popular/profitable one
Anonymous
7/26/2025, 12:52:37 AM No.102722975
>>102717411
>trusting the words of the three stooges uncritically
How about no.
>she did threaten to release the document
She did, and it was enough to make them back the fuck down. They themselves conceded. They got scared.
>That's exactly what made it that bad
Idiot. She was trying to be magnanimous and to avoid actually implicating anyone. And it was for naught, because shortly after that the black stream came into existence.
>Delusional
You're the delusional one if you didn't see how NijiEN became a pariah of the insustry. Echochamber much?
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Anonymous
7/26/2025, 1:16:09 AM No.102724074
>>102707309
It's obvious to any unbiased observer that she is a suicide grifting cunt. Women don't ever commit suicide. It's always a cry for help or manipulation tactic.
Anonymous
7/26/2025, 1:17:04 AM No.102724121
>>102707034 (OP)
The one making Doki hate posts are seething NijiNiggers and most of the NijiEN clique on their free time. The NijiEN livers are still seething and post here anonymously to vent their shitty life made by their own shit choices by being terrible people. Remember NijiEN hates white people. They still have an anti white vtuber that officially abhors any person that is white. These are the people cheering for white genocide and want to replace people in western countries with peoples of multiple color (namely black and brown) and the rainbow mafia wants to make more people join their cult that they shit post about actual people wanting to get married. They want people to be mentally ill like them, they don't want straight people to exist.
Anonymous
7/26/2025, 1:20:39 AM No.102724267
>>102722975
>Asks for proof
>Rejects it
Like a baby
>it was enough to make them back the fuck down
Wasn't she the one typing up multiple posts about how wrong she was while not posting any of the evidence she said she would?
>She was trying to be magnanimous
Yes, implicating literally everyone in the company is totally an act of kindness, retard
>NijiEN became a pariah of the insustry.
Holy ESL. Still makes more than Doki btw
Anonymous
7/26/2025, 1:23:52 AM No.102724425
>>102707565
She clearly isnt bpd. She might have a diagnosis, but thats just not the correct one (that misdiagnosis was common for decades, I had the same issue, and most bpds I know have been rediagnosed by now).
shes a cPTSD subtype and her family issues support this. Youve clearly never met anyone thats BPD. Real BPD cases are much crueler and much more arrogant, wouldve gone the vulnarc route and she wouldnt be well known in the community for being easy to work with and down to earth. Doki has at most a light to medium cptsd issue, avoidant/anxious/ maybe even codependent attachment style Id guess, with a heavy dosage of selfdoubt and some depression.
Even mikeneko is pr harmless for a BPD case (tho she is one I think)
Anonymous
7/26/2025, 1:30:40 AM No.102724714
>>102707618
>>102707823
If she does have BPD legitimately, it invalidates the severity of certain things, people with BPD have persecution complexes, depending on the severity, and they will think people are after them when they are not. And no, it wasn't in the black stream video, the closest that they came with talking about her personally is when Ike Eveland said that he was hurt, because he thought she was his friend.
Anonymous
7/26/2025, 1:32:10 AM No.102724772
>>102707565
She said she had it but that was when she was a 16 year old on tumblr self-diagnosing
it's unlikely she actually has it because she doesn't show any of the signs
Anonymous
7/26/2025, 1:57:13 AM No.102725887
>>102713883
There's a reasonable amount of doubt to hold when regarding anything on the internet. You're on an anonymous message board right now. Who's to say I'm the same anon? Who's to say I'm not typing with a different style and contradicting myself right now in another bait thread? In this very same thread?

Whether you choose to believe her or not is quite literally your choice. But if you listen to every self-diagnosed ADHD and take it as fact, you're in for a rude awakening.
Anonymous
7/26/2025, 2:43:45 AM No.102728066
>>102715559
I have to assume it's at least a little bit of the latter because that's just how girls operate