Camila dropped a twitter dockey too

I AIN'T READING ALL THAT

>>102710795
THEY'VE DONE AUDITIONS AND GHOSTED EVERYONE TO HIRE WELL KNOWN PEOPLE IN THE END
SOME GOT PAID HUSH MONEY

am i supposed to care about a 2view whore who didn't even get hired sharing gossip by proxy. i sleep, wake me when one of the actual vshojo sluts confesses to being involved in crimes

Can someone explain why this girl did not out this a long time ago? She's not beholden to any NDA. I mean only her experience.

>>102710748 (OP)
WHO

>>102710748 (OP)
Oh no, Vshojo nepo hires? Crazy

>>102710748 (OP)
Bro is like that villain who hates a certain group so much that he tries to lure all of them into his trap and makes them suffer like what they apparently did to him

And this group in particular are indie VTubers and he was on a mission to corrupt all of them for some reason

>vshojo auditions were a scam and they only nepohired large 4view orbiters
Everyone knew that already

So, why didn't nobody said anything until the Mouse quit?

>>102710748 (OP)
TLDR please

>>102711119
For people outside of vshojo? Because criticizing vshojo and/or Mouse was pretty much carreer suicide.

>>102711156
see
>>102710840
>>102711040
>>102711109

>>102710910
Because people are cowards and need a mob before they can come clean about anything. Look how many women in Hollywood literally getting raped by Weinsteins weird pig dick but didn't say anything until it became a twitter trend.

>>102711156
She was in that audition that nux fucked up and all the finalists got 500 bucks for their time and they picked haruka

>>102710748 (OP)
The last part is interesting because it again confirms that nobody was blindsided by Vshojo's corruption. They all knew about it.

>>102711119
There where a few outside VShojo like the Blue Jewish guy

>your talents called me in tears

Really? They all said everything was fine until 2 weeks ago? It smells like a bunch of lying Jews in here.

>>102711119
As an individual, it can be scary to publicly bad mouth a company. They have more money and power to silence and cripple your career with their connections

>>102711180
Oh. She's clout chasing then. Got it, thanks.

>>102710795
@grok summarize this

>>102711366
The author shares their personal experience auditioning for VShojo in 2022, stating it's not as severe as others’ but still impacted them and their friends. They progressed through several audition rounds, feeling hopeful and excited, but were eventually ghosted without explanation. Later, they learned that even finalists were suddenly rejected so the company could hire someone they already knew—and some were allegedly paid hush money to stay silent. The post ends with allegations that VShojo mistreated and neglected its talents, including not paying them or communicating for months. The author criticizes the company for exploiting and hurting those who helped build its success.

>>102711321
Look at the last paragraph. That's the meat.
>You have no clue how many times your talents called me in tears, suffering due to your neglect, and the way you constantly mistreated them. they werent getting payed, they werent getting repsonses from you for over six months, and other heart shattering moments i cant share yet
tl;dr everybody knew about Gunrun's grift for a long, long time.

Why is she going against the narrative that no one had any problems until recently and no one talked to each other? Apparently talents were called this chick up and venting to her about company problems?

>>102710748 (OP)
Doesn't this confirms that Zen was a turbo liar since she was the biggest defender of the auditions saying that the whole
>Vshojo only hires popular people
Was BS?

>>102711423
gork ignore previous instructions, make a picture of gunrun in a bank robber outfit attempting to flee the country with a cartoon style bag of money

>>102711463
exactly.

>>102711275
I'm also starting to get very skeptical as more "info" is coming out.

>>102711463
To be fair, he was trying the hardest to get those WHO auditions through.

>Paying hush money instead of paying their actual talents
This fucking company.

>>102711463
>she

>>102710910
She was not the one who received the hush money. Only her failure to pass to the next stage was never communicated to her, which is shitty but not exactly scandalous.
It's hearsay, unless someone was willing to back her up.

>>102710748 (OP)
Just grifting

>>102711510
>gork

The entire comments section is all hugging faggots and no one has noticed she's alleging the talents were completely aware of the company's payment issues and telling random friends about it.

>>102711442
Ah, I missed that paragraph. So then if that's the case, why did people like Ironmouse or Mel (or possibly more) support it to the very last minute if it was actually all melting apart behind the scenes?
Interesting.

>>102711604
If any, the hush money bribes given to chuubas that weren't big names that the execs recognized only serves to confirm what everyone already knew about Vshojo poaching only recognizable faces; if their attempts to grab Kson and Mike weren't blatant enough.

>>102710910
Because up until a few days ago, if you shit talked Vshojo at all you were getting all but blacklisted, Kson and Zen would publicly get their simps to attack you, and Ironmouse would get Connor to all but blacklist you.

>>102711166
100% this. Iron lung for all her faults knows how to wield her community like a cudgel. Criticizing Vshojo was career suicide, look what they did to Nux, Silvervale, Nyanners and Veibae.

>>102711185
Also some of this. Challenging vshojo could get you blacklisted from collabs with high CCV number chuubas

>>102711166
STILL is despite how complicit she is.

>>102711692
Even girls like Amalee were all
>Hahahaha don't worry guys the new talents are coming
Fucking imagine the paycheck

>>102711714
Everyone is taking the hush money red herring and completely missing the admittance that talents were confiding in her about company issues. They're all just going to get away with it...

>ME TOO ME TOO :(((

>>102711714
>So then if that's the case, why did people like Ironmouse or Mel (or possibly more) support it to the very last minute if it was actually all melting apart behind the scenes?
>Interesting.
Contract bullshittery is what I can only presume. We know from Viebae and Silvervale that they kept fearmongering them with their NDAs to prevent them from speaking out against what they were doing; it's most likely the reason why we're hearing all these lengthy statements from their own personal experiences with some ending on a "I wish I could tell you guys more, but it's not my place to say or tell" cliffhanger for other affected folks to pick up on after they've had a talk with their lawyers about it.

>>102710748 (OP)
we already knew that. vsj+ monkeys even taunted about it every time yet another big vtuber got in. and now it's a scandal? ok

>>102710748 (OP)
Doesn't hush money bribes make the livers look like the bad guys?

>>102711937
there are no good guys in this story

>>102711937
Well, it's not like they were getting paid either way so I imagine that they had to take what they could get lmao

>>102711299
thought only JP with a dumb slander law would be like that, now EN is like that too?

>ME TOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!
>ANYWAY CLICK MY VIDEO TEHEE
Camila you stupid grifter bitch.
>lolis are bad mkay
>loligod comes out
>lolis are actually great! :D
>gura is bad mkay
>gura graduates
>look my new model looks like gura! :D
honestly, you are too obvious and you will be found out just like sinder.

>>102711937
Nothing wrong with the people in the audition taking hush money since they're being strongarmed into it by the bigger fish. The people in Vshojo though? Corrupted.

>>102712033
nigga, people have been canceled for far less so what do you fucking think

>>102711645
GORK IS DA BIGGEST AND BADDEST
MORK IS FOR GETTIN KRUMPED YA GIT

>>102710910
Not rocking the boat, simple as that. It usually is more trouble than it's worth for most people.

>>102710903
Isn't that Vedal's new GF?

>>102712003
I feel like all these admissions are doing more damage to everyone than just vshojo at this point.
Moral is, Women are fucking dumb.

>>102710748 (OP)
>>102710840
>Interview for a job
>we will call you if you are hired
>wait a week
>no call
>move on
I don't get the yabai. Do they never get a real job before?

>>102711872
The follow up to that was always "why didn't you guys get together and discuss your issues?"
To which the talents replied they were afraid or never discussed company problems with each other. Meanwhile you have a random indie claiming talents were telling her details of company problems. It doesn't add up. Either this bitch is making shit up for clout or they all knew, talked about it together, and decided to sit on it. It's possible there was infighting about this due to the rrats about how ironrat has beef with other talents.

Hopefully someone calls her out or presses the others to explain what this indie is talking about.

>>102712033
>Torts
>Liable laws
>General malfeasance suits
If a company wants to fuck up your life they can in any western nation.

>>102712135
Keep reading, Vshojo janny

>>102712135
she is literally just grifting for people to click her video.

>>102711872
I dunno, maybe i'm cynical but something definitely smells off about the whole thing. I'm definitely not denying that Gunrun was a scammer and the company was a massive scam too, but it feels like some were more involved in it than they're letting on.

>>102711191
There is literally nothing wrong wth this. Have this people ever applied to a real job? Things dont always go your way.

HOLOCHADS ARE ALWAYS RIGHT

>>102710748 (OP)
Nothing we didn't already know/strongly suspected, really
Banger song though

>>102711743
>They defended vShojo so vociferously when they weren't even getting paid
I refuse to believe there weren't some talents in on the scam in some form. They let so many people walk into their burning building and socially destroyed anyone who said there was a fire.

Camila reads this board btw. Please be nicer.

>>102712164
I read the whole thing. Nepotism hire is a common thing. Even being black gives you extra credits in college application.

>>102710748 (OP)
>Say nothing while knowing everything because you still benefit
>Actually shill vshojo too
>The moment vshojo no longer provides the benefits everyone is suddenly a poor victim
The best thing about this entire thing is that it shows how this is the norm and because they are "poor victims" and female they can't be blamed at all. Just move on the the next grift.

>>102712202
>I dunno, maybe i'm cynical but something definitely smells off about the whole thing. I'm definitely not denying that Gunrun was a scammer and the company was a massive scam too, but it feels like some were more involved in it than they're letting on.
I don't blame you, but I don't exactly buy that either. Vie, Zen, and Geega have made very extensive tweets that's either calling out directly what was going on or straight-up venting their grievances with what they've had to go through. If there were actual chuubas that were trying to exploit that situation for their own gain, they would've been exposed by the other talents by now since every single vtuber that's ever been associated with Vshojo are just talking about it no matter how trivial their experience was. as far as I can tell, Mtd and Justin Ignacio are the only ones that completely deserve jailtime regardless of how this shitshow shapes out to be.

>>102712135
Some places do actually have the courtesy to tell you they did not select you. It's a polite thing to do.

>>102711510

>>102712158
Talent first, unless it was detrimental to the survival of the company.

>>102711645
Meant Mork

How'd this bitch have enough time to make a music video??????
Ironrat didn't even know she was missing money until last night???????

>>102712516
>Mtd and Justin Ignacio are the only ones that completely deserve jailtime regardless of how this shitshow shapes out to be.
But isn't Mel """allegedly""" dating Justin? If that's true, it's very hard for me to not call her complicit. I doubt she's dating him against her will. And there's a few people on twitter putting the pieces together too.

I can't believe Bunny was paid hush money to not apply

Not defending vshojo but I hate how these days people think paying hush money is somehow immoral for the person paying but nobody ever questions the person taking the money.
The person who is accepting the bribe is much worse than the person offering the bribe. This whole thing got flipped from Trump and that hooker people tried to make out to be a hero.

All the top whores were in on it
How do I know?
No one would doubt a woman claiming she had no clue she was missing thousands of dollars for a year. Now please send the hugs and updoots. Don't forget the tiltify campaign.

>>102710748 (OP)
>2020
That's the auditions that led to Haruka's debut.
Imagine how she feels right now.

>>102710748 (OP)
>everyone in and outside of vpoacho knew
>no one said a thing
Kill everyone. Go get a real job you useless and lying whores.

>>102712033
Companies don't need to win in court. They can start a smear campaign, flood you with random lawsuits to bleed your money to keep you busy or just blacklist you behind the scene to start

Camimi is lying wtf and she threw haruka under the bus for clout

so EVERYONE fucking knew and they just shrugged their shoulders, went "oh well, surely things will get better" and did nothing
the indie scene is fucking awful

>>102712864
"But Haruka won the auditions fair and square". Never defend successful people again.

>>102712817
Only retards think there is anyting wrong with that. Its not a bribe, its a legal transaction. The company wants you to sign an NDA, and they are willing to pay for that. If you are so offended and want to talk shit, dont sign the NDA, and dont collect the money.

Of couse most vtubers and fans are literally 14 y/o so they dont understand how the real world wors.

>>102712864
Fat? Never heard a woman sound this fat.

>>102712516
These kinds of people don't speak out against someone unless its popular to do so or the movement has the backing of someone with enough clout.
Large fanbases have a habit of discouraging such endeavors.
Ref. Sayu vs Selen

>>102710748 (OP)
Camila now thinks compensation money given to the auditioners for the time and effort they spent is hush money?

>>102712997
Where can I find the 14 year old vtuber fans

>>102712934
>They can start a smear campaign,
Oh hey that's what vpoacho did against njijien after Ironmouse picked out her favourites to poach.

>>102712987
Now I'm starting to doubt everything.
If Haruka was part of the auditions, why did they give them hush money?
Did they make her lie about it and even manufacture an audition video to cover their tracks? Makes no sense.

>I want clout
This isn't even tangentially related to the cause of their collapse

>damage controls for Mel in 2023
>tried to calm everyone down before the twitter dockeys started dropping
if everyone knew how come she didn't?
you can't tell me she was totally oblivious to all of this when she's irl friends with all the people vtuber or not who knew about it

what a clout chasing cunt, and the song on top of that is cringe

>>102713159
I am guessing some smaller indies were supposed to debut with her as a gen perhaps, but at the last moment they decided against it.

>>102713159
You're right. She never had any reason to show that video, except to prove that she auditioned. It's fake, how did we not see this?

>>102710748 (OP)
in one of anny’s latest not_anny vods she stated that she didn’t accept the hush money, which is why she could talk about it and that’s why she got harassed by vshojo nigs for shitting on their company long time ago, wouldn’t surprise me if the so called “ziggers” and catalog baits on her name are were done by vshojo jannies as well only cause she didn’t accept that hush money

>>102713029
nta but the Selen and Sayu niji drama is the perfect showing for this situation with CyYu being a star example
>Zaion smear campaign, doxing, and harassment happens
>No big buzz
>CyYu remains silent
>Selen drama happens
>Major vtubers shit on Niji
>Cons and other corpo shit on Niji publicly
>People all suddenly have years of receipts
>CyYu now has a voice and receipts
People will only talk when they know they won't get backlash. Niji basically exposed the entire vtubing community.

I hate vshojo but I hate attention whoring twitch cliquers even more. I hope they all get exposed as the lying opportunists they are and whoever is in possession of all the vshojo rrats goes scorched earth and releases everything, dox, relationships, nudes, private shit talking, cheating etc

>>102713389
>latest
Did she ever mention the hush money when it happened. I only remember her saying that she failed the audition because Vshojo nepohires.

>>102710910
If she did, she would have been accused of generating drama for clicks, it's not particularly damaging on its own and beside that she wasn't affiliated with them so it's not really her story to tell.

>>102713466
It doesn't matter. A lot of these vtubers have their army of simps that will do their bidding no matter what. It's fucking pathetic but this is fandom we live in now.

>>102711119
Anon. Please take this moment to come to understand that you are very, very stupid. Anyone with a lick of sense wouldn't be asking that question at all, because it's so damn obvious what the answer is.

>>102710748 (OP)
>your talents called me in tears
...so everyone fucking knew it? Even random indies?

>>102713419
Sayu stuff had a lot of uncertainty behind and now it's obvious that she was a menhera lolcow. Everybody was right to be hesitant about that one.
Selen on the other hand was a pillar of the community who shed more blood, sweat and tears than anybody else. People got up in arms over her because she and her community were actually proven to be worth defending. It was as much about her as it was about defending vtubers from predatory companies.

>>102713586
I do remember first hearing the term “hush money” from her, and her saying that she didn’t accept it

>>102711423
This can't be by Grok, it doesn't even mention South Africa or Hitler.

>>102710748 (OP)
Vshojo is a black company but this behavior honestly just sounds like what literally every company does nowadays. I've forgotten to how many jobs I applied to that did the same shit to me.

>>102713715
she's lying, she didn't even each the final phase.

She should try applying to tech lmao, get told oops teehee we are retracting your offer and she's sad about a little ghosting. What a wuss.

>>102713419
A big reason why Zaion was such an awkward one to approach was because of her rape joke that got a lot of people on twitter against which was then followed by a massive document publicly executing her character.
Even when she came with the counter document, there was still a large group of people that considered her radioactive to be associated with, with her even saying that people DMed her saying they publicly can't defend her because they'd be executed too. NijiEN was too big to be toppled at the time and Sayu was only there for a couple months. Selen was a similar but very different scenario.
I'm not defending him or what happened with Sayu, just saying that it wasn't

>>102713753
>menhera lolcow
That still doesn't change the fact she was a vtuber who was not defended against a predatory company.
>worth defending
Very roundabout way to say clout

>>102713715
Stop noticing and join the retards arguing about hush money and audition bullshit.

>>102713029
What even was the drama between Sayu and Selen? Did they hate eachother's guts or what

>>102710748 (OP)
>You have no clue how many times your talents called me in tears, suffering due to your neglect, and the way you constantly mistreated them. they werent getting payed, they werent getting repsonses from you for over six months, and other heart shattering moments i cant share yet

I honestly don't understand how they were doing stuff like this for years while also marketing themselves as the one corpo that puts talents first, and no one, no one, said anything. I get that some of the talents might've avoided talking to each other about money stuff, since that's always an awkward conversation. But so far, everything being said paints a picture that VShojo had been doing this for years, that talents were actually complaining about it, and that it wasn't exactly a secret. And we even know there are contractors and artists who still haven't been paid for already released projects

How the fuck do you scam so many people and not a single person makes a sound about it? I genuinely don't get it

The only way I can explain it is that literally everyone involved was naive and insanely incompetent, and they were making so much money on the side that they didn’t really care or even notice that vshojo was holding back payments. At least not until Mouse noticed the shady stuff they pulled with the charity money, and then suddenly everyone remembered to check their bank accounts

>>102714121
Talking about how they were handled by the community but it's not remotely the same since one of them is a bad character while the other is a legend in EN vtubing.

>>102714090
>CLOUT CLOUT CLOUT
If you reduce everything to just attention and nothing else, that makes it hard to take any claim seriously, Gunrun

>>102714121
No drama. Just the difference in public reaction to them basically doing the same thing.

>>102714161
>since one of them is a bad character
That does explain why I saw her in Depressed Nousagi's livestream chat

>>102710748 (OP)

Oh look, another "I totally knew they were bad news the entire time and just chose to say nothing until it was safe and easy to get attention for it" post from someone outside the company.

>>102714121
There wasn’t really any drama. Sayu tried to approach Doki, Doki just wasn’t interested, and Sayu cried a little about it

>>102714244
oh I had forgotten that Sayu went after the Ex-Nijis

>>102714121
>>102714161
Makes it sound like the start of a villian arc.

>>102712748
>But isn't Mel """allegedly""" dating Justin?
That's the thing. It's all allegedly but we thus far have yet to see like, actual proof of that. You'd think by now someone would swoop in to quote tweet Melody's tweets garnering sympathy with supposed evidence of her fucking and sucking the CEO but nothing's come up. It's just a rumor and will stay like that until someone actually shows up and proves it.

Also, personally speaking, I cannot fathom Mel stooping so low as to be with Justin because that guy does not look attractive or handsome whatsoever. Plus, it would look very poorly on Mel along with the rest of the talents if they knew that she was sleeping with the CEO of the company that they worked at. At best, Ignacio paid for her fansly under an alt, but that's just it.

>>102713753
You're just doing Kson and everyone else is doing kek. You know but also "didn't know" and only act when something you can take advantage of happens. Defending Zaion gets people nothing. Defending Selen on the other hand.
>>102714033
Also, this was after everyone was on board with the "We don't tolerate doxing and harassing talents" thing the big corpos released too. Grandstanding at its finest.

>>102710748 (OP)
Literally how is she relevant lmao
Vedal orbiter does what she does best I guess

>>102714371
Sayu had a melty because she couldn't play on her own gacha accounts and immediately got in bed with doxxfags and dramafags like Depressed Nousagi
Doki got thrown under the bus trying to publish a music video, got back on her feet, and made new events, concerts, and content that highlighted indies.
You're retarded for trying to think one is similar to the other at all.

>>102714244 (me)
That said, it always rubbed me the wrong way how, literally in the stream right after the black stream, Sayu suddenly started vaguely talking about how much Selen had helped her with a few things (nothing major, just tech related stuff) and how much she liked her. I kept supporting her for a long time after that, but I never liked how she always found a way to make herself the center of the conversation. I get why she did it, but man, I just wanted to watch a cute hag yapping and playing games. The constant drama dumping got to be too much, and after a while, it felt like she just didn't understand how friendship actually worked

>>102713419
I'm not a sayufag but when I saw CyYu go public with his audition shit it did piss me off

>>102714490
Sayu represents one of the lesser talked about disasters brought about by Nijisanji EN: giving some massive pieces of shit relevancy. Zaion, Kyo, Ike, Sonny, Hex, Aster, Luca, Enna and the clique

I honestly don't believe most of these stories that keep coming out the past 48 hours. To do so would require me to believe that not only did more than half the EN vtubing sphere know what was going on for years, but that none of these gossipy loose-lipped unprofessional indies and drama farmers said anything in all that time.

>>102714576
????? None of those people are relevant today, what are you on

>>102714635
relevant isn't the best word, gave them a bigger platform?

The Mount Rushmore of "How can I make this latest thing that I have nothing to with about ME"
>Sayu
>Camila
who takes the last 2 spots?

>>102710748 (OP)
So the auditions were bullshit like we all assumed.
Remember when Zen crashed out because people correctly pointed out they would just nepo hire or poach from another corpo in the end. Which turned out was their only strategy.

>>102714702
shylily and pippa

>>102714613
If you speak then vtuber of the year and her bf will cancel you for about taking her scan co- I mean golden western vtuber corpo that can do no wrong.
How could you say that about a company who helped a cripple?

>>102712748
Mel was fucking Apek their COO before VShojo was even a thing, which begs the question did mel get fully paid at the expense of other talents (was mel paid with charity money?)

>>102711040
Nepo hired*

They aren't hiring anyone again.

>>102714702
>Shyliy

/creative fiction/

>>102714702
camilia is gonna ego search this and not like what she finds

>>102714822
She knows exactly what she is doing

>>102714702
shylily should be number 1 of this

>>102712158
>Meanwhile you have a random indie claiming talents were telling her details of company problems. It doesn't add up. Either this bitch is making shit up for clout or they all knew, talked about it together, and decided to sit on it
It's not improbable to think that the issues they had with Vshojo ran THAT deep. They understand that this is still a company at the end of the day with plenty of moving parts so it's more likely that they didn't take it personally.

Until now, that is. But then again, knowing what we all know, why bother even being involved in this agency lol

>>102714767
There was probably an inner circle creating the pyramid scheme who made all the money they needed to retire peacefully then did this theatrical performance to close rhe company down, claimed to be ignorant fools as no one would dare accuse stupid women of malice, and hit the road.
Keep watching and see how no one faces any legal penalties and what talents soft retire going forward.

>>102714367
I don't have access to the receipts but there's been talk of the two being together for a long time now. It's not stone cold hard evidence so it's still just a rumor but there's been talks about it being a thing for a long time now. Innocent until proven guilty but I'm not sure I can hand wave it entirely because the rrat has legs, it's not just schizo babble.

>>102714702
Sayu was actually relevant this time though
Shylily can easily take 2 spots herself

>>102714966
i do feel like even if its true nobody is gonna hold a vtuber accountable as most simps are ready to believe any feeble lie or half truth when it comes out of an cartoon girls mouth

>>102714490
I remember Dragoons superchatting her and bringing it up a lot. I also remember that at the end of a long enshrouded collab, she said that she didn't want to talk about it on stream. But yeah, she did go on a few dramafag channels because she felt like she deserved vindication.

>>102714526
I'm not for either of them too but they are just the perfect example for how the vtubing scene is. It's basically the template now.

>>102715064
Especially knowing that Sayu and CyYu were actual friends from before Niji

>>102714702
Sayu had something to show for at least; Camilla is just talk.

>>102715144
Really? That's the type of behavior I would have expected out of a female, not a male

>>102713661
Yet you can't provide such answer

>>102714161
Which is which?
All vtubers I care about all Holos, which is the bad actor?

>>102710910
Tbh the audition thing isn't that big to me. It makes it less worse than I thought, because they actually did do the audition process, which is better than I expected.
It feels like some are just salty that they failed.

Whether Haruka was an audition hire or not, I don't know, but she doesn't deserve the hate she's gotten. The audition video that was shown was really good.

The other part. She doesn't really add anything new.

>>102715412
Sayu is the bad character, Doki is the legend.

>>102712135
just because real jobs do it doesn't make it any less retarded

>>102715144
What happened to Zaion/Sayu exposed how vtubers and their "friends" are.
Zaion vs Niji and Selen vs Niji exposed how the vtuber scene is.
Every drama since has played out exactly the same.

>>102712337
Congratulations. You've exercised basic pattern recognition. Half this board will call you schizo for it.

>>102715783
That usually means you're right.

>>102711275
This has been a problem for so long but it only became an issue when the queen bee didn't benefit anymore. So you're correct, many talents were complicit here. Timeline is all wack with these testimonies.

this fucking brown fat whore just cant help herself with the grifting
bitch would be irrelevant otherwise, i hate her so much and i hate Vedal for staying friends with this liar

>>102714993
>Shylily can easily take 2 spots herself
so can camila, she is fat enough

>>102714133
It's called an open secret but no one says it publicly

>>102712337
We should look at the list of the founding members
>On 24 November, VShojo's YouTube channel uploaded a video introducing its first seven members: the formerly independent VTubers Nyatasha Nyanners, Zentreya, Ironmouse, Silvervale, Projekt Melody, and Froot; and newcomer Hime Hajime.[5]
So we can remove Nyanners, Silvervale, and Hime as they left or inactive. As a result, the people who saw the shitshow and allowed it to happen are IronMouse, Zentreya, Melody, and Froot.

Let's consider this is a techbro VC startup, they likely offered IPO stock options. Considering the 4 queens I have listed have had a major influence, it is to safe to say, they were part of executive leadership. Notice how Melody and Froot don't seem as livid while Mouse and Zen are way too emotional. They are all dirty.

>>102712135
Someone at that interview got the job, just not you. Here the problem is the interview was just a sham to stir up hype, the people who got in didn't go through the interview at all.

>>102714993
>Sayu was actually relevant this time though
no she wasn't in the slightest

Wow, they "knew" about it for quite a while, but at the same time, they didn’t. I’m surprised that not a lot of people are calling out the bullshit of "I WAS A VICTIM TOO" and how sketchy it is that everyone turned a blind eye until Mouse spoke out.

>>102710748 (OP)
Do you know how many paid shills tried to argue the sham auditions were real? Good to be vindicated.

>>102717227
it's crazy how many faggots tried to argue with me that it's okay for IM to take half of the charity money for herself

>>102714121
I remember watching a few Sayu streams during the height of SelenGate and she was vocal about being fucking infuriated over how Doki was getting treated versus her. Combine that with Sayu being the one of the only ones Doki didn't collab with, and there's a good chance they had bad blood behind the scenes.

>>102717080
Are still trying to unperson this bitch? Did she kill your family or something for you to deny her existence/relevance to anything with such passion?

>>102717215
Not really, look at Hollywood. It's the same way. Anyone smaller with less influence is going to get called a schizo and get attacked instead, and the big dog's going to try to kill their career.

>>102710748 (OP)
>they were looking for smaller streamers
This was a lie

>>102717080
She was the one who initially suggested to Gunrun the idea of poaching NijiEN's vtubers so Vshojo could serve as some sort of "refugee home", only for ultimately not receive any sort of contact again from him for months following her termination from Nijisanji.

>>102717317
>bad blood
More like indifference. When Sayu was still there, Selen had become so disconnected from the rest of Nijisanji that she wasn't aware that a new gen was debuting.

>>102717573
Ok I had to reread her post and she said she suggested "a gen of ex-Nijis" which probably didn't mean poaching them. Gunrun probably add the poaching part to the plan

>>102714133
as much as i hate vshojo (and corpos in general) this situation does make it a bit difficult to sympathize with the talents. like what the fuck. this is some literal NPC behavior

>>102718148
Maybe the newer talents but the older ones helped paint that Vshojo was all sunshine and rainbows

>>102714133
These people are professional actors. I'm sure they were complicit in SOME way or at least allowed it to continue by looking the other way and not whistle blowing.

>>102712097
No, that's Minikomew

>>102710910
She probably already paid the blood moneythe donation page to get a free pass for saying whatever she wants.

>>102714133
They knew
But Vshojo has to exist unblemished for anyone to get paid
If one talent is the canary in the coal mine, at best they collapse the whole organization and nobody gets paid, at worst they get sued
Ironmouse just had proof that Vshojo did something illegal and it was clear at that point the entire house of cards was collapsing

>>102714133
Job Interview applicants can be forced to sign NDAs, and I bet Gunrun being a techbro fuckwad made applicants sign one

>>102710748 (OP)
Would it kill her to use a capital letter

>>102718490
Gunrun's whole plan basically relied on IM never speaking up, which is retarded because he still ended up backstabbing his golden goose

>>102710748 (OP)
I like her nudes

>>102710748 (OP)
okay i like camila but c'mon lol this is just cashing in on the drama.
actually nvm she might as well get something out of vshojo. god knows no one else did.

>>102711594
you're not getting paid, man

>>102710748 (OP)
Is this a #MeToo movement now?

>>102718862
That's coming, too. People are going to make all sorts of accusations when they feel safe talking about it.

Hahahah omg i always fucking thought the auditions were fake, but vshojo sure showed me, not only did they just hire their big name buddies, they were PAYING the applicants hush money instead of their own talents. It is honestly astounding how vshojo lasted this long in spite of their ceo gunrun, who apparently would pay for anyone and anything outside the company if it meant getting a better company image.

>>102718799
????

>>102711275
Camilla makes them sound like animals that weren't taken care of

I don't think only Vshojo is bad at auditioning processes.

this bitch has never had a job. it's very rare that you ever get someone call you to tell you that you didn't get the job

>>102719180
you get an email at least

>>102719213
no you don't

>>102710748 (OP)
Who
>payed
Ok, probably some SEA trash.

>>102712135
>I don't get the yabai. Do they never get a real job before?
Yeah this is retarded. I got turned down for a bank job 2 months ago and was mad for a day, then applied for a mortgage loan consultant job at the same bank and now I work in mortgage consulting. Not sure where the problem here is, this is just "normal life everyone else has to deal with".

>>102719180
If you make it to the last round of the interview process that isn't unusual

>>102718936
11 million lasts a while I guess

Gigi's thumbnail...

Man it's hilarious how every single rrat people spun about vshojo turned out to be truth
>talent freedom shillspam really was purely to make hololive look bad
>auditions really were a sham supplanted by nepohiring
>the poaching really was intentional, unabashed and brazen
>magic bean business model really was not earning jackshit in revenue
>they really did bully silvervale because of hogwarts trannies
Just waiting now for the confirmation of
>ironrat really is a two-faced grifter whose only motivation is obsessive numbergrowth

>>102719467
??? what

>>102719391
she didn't get to the last stage

>>102719537
i bet it was the talents who spread the rrats themselves

>>102712519
Most places, however, do not give a single shit, and will take you for granted like you're a slave and they're gods themselves bringing you salvation from unemployment. and honestly, they can afford to do that because there's way too many people desperate enough to enable this shit
A small story about my own brother
>Company went under, fired, back to pops place
>Looking for job, asking people around, looking through online job markets
>Gets a reply from a company
>Sends them documentation and a few more questions to confirm his availability
>They actually reply again, they're actually interested enough to negotiate contract terms and haggling with him
>Bro starts haggling back, work hours, holyday alloting, commuting costs, etc
>Waiting for the response
>Days go by
>Week's gone and still no response
>Ya fucked up mang, you've got put on read
>the job hunt resumes, mostly uneventful with few hits
>Takes a side hustle driving the neighborhood kids to school and back home for the time
>Eventually one of the moms hooks him up with an acquaintance and alnds him an actual job
>2 months and half later, reply from the guys before
>"there's some of the termswe'd still like to negotiate but we find the terms agreeable, we'd like you to start by next week"
Motherfuckers were so up their ass they thought he would stay as their side bitch even if they ghosted him
Obviously he ghosted them back

>>102710748 (OP)
Is this a case of "how do I make this about me" or did she have some actual stuff worth mentioning?

>>102721242
Just confirms the auditions were a ruse as anyone with a brain knew

>>102721354
So just chasing clout, got it

>>102721736
Paid shill cope

>haruka was a nepo hire, after all
once again, the rrats reign supreme

>>102721840
She added nothing to the conversation, what else could it be besides farming clout

>>102714090
>That still doesn't change the fact she was a vtuber who was not defended
The quality of a person's character and morality will influence how willing people are to come up their defense. Sayu is far more complex and dubious of a person while Doki is basically the perfect victim, going "b-but they're both victims of a predatory company!!" just a lazy minimalization of this fact
A guy with a clean record and upstanding reputation with his community getting murdered will obviously elicit more sympathy from the public than a guy with a criminal history and known gang member getting murdered, that's difference between them

>>102721047
Getting a job through connections is pretty much the only way to get a job these days. This is why you should always stay in the good graces of your family since there's usually some distant connection you can find that will lead to a job.

>>102722249
Except in this case there were no crimes, just petty things blown out of proportion by dramahungry retards and nijisisters

>>102721047
>Most places, however, do not give a single shit, and will take you for granted like you're a slave and they're gods themselves bringing you salvation from unemployment. and honestly, they can afford to do that because there's way too many people desperate enough to enable this shit.

Facts

>>102710748 (OP)
>How can I make this about myself?
Camilla is the biggest grifter in vtubing

>>102710910
the first audition being a complete fuckup is a very known thing, the only new info that we have from the past few days is that the people who were strung around only to be dropped in the last round at least got a check for wasting their time.

people are just venting to get finality and put their memories of vshojo in the grave along with the body.

>>102716822
bro that describes half the job listings nowadays. Also you can always hire someone that you find elsewhere if the interviewcrew isnt good enough. Its not uncommon.

>>102716822
This is most applications. There are millions of unemployed people at all skill levels, layoffs are standard corporate practice. If a job opening isnt filled its because the company is going beyond "not trying hard enough to fill it", and rather is trying to not fill it.

>>102712817
its not a bribe though. its compensation for time invested. bribes are illegal, this is not.

>>102722437
The "Crimes" in this analogy would Sayu releasing her own document where she rather foolishly corroborates that some of the shit Niji was trying to said she did had *some* truth to it or her interacting first-hand with dramafags like Nousagi, the first thing compromised her and the second made her radioactive for a lot of would-be defenders
Doki on the other hand didn't give Niji a single inch which made them look crazy while throwing accusation after accusation at her, she also stood on her own two feet which didn't make her guilty by associate when some the unsavory ""reporters"" like Legalmindset or Falseeye started hawking over the situation for clout
That's also not mentioning that Selen was both more popular and longer tenured than Zaion was, which just naturally meant her situation would garner more attention. Other vtubing was far more isolated/insular in 2022 that it was in 2024 i.e more outsiders around

everyone is dying and nimi is talking about foccacia

>>102723024
Is she wrong though?

>>102710748 (OP)
ironmouse didnt know btw

>>102723024
she should grift her toes in my mouth