>Cons: None

FREEDOM in not getting paid.

>>102766881 (OP)
Very stupid of her to say that.

>>102766881 (OP)
POV: That one butthurt holodrone who can't over losing Coco.

>>102766881 (OP)
She admitted she was wrong like 20 different times in the past 3 days, are you really this upset about her leaving you 4 years ago? Because that China shit was fucked up.

>>102766881 (OP)
change CD

>>102766881 (OP)
The FREEDOM to get paid 0%

>>102767246
POV: That one butthurt vhoefag who now don't have anything to stand on

>>102766881 (OP)
Freedom is Free I guess

KWABOTY of the year

>>102766881 (OP)
SHE MEANS You GET NONE

>>102767294
Nobody ever hated her for leaving.
People hated her for participating in Vshojo's "we are so much better than hololive" PR campaign. Which was smelled out from day 1.

Like how fucking arrogant do you have to be to go "YASSSSS MY CORPO HAS LITERALLY NO DOWNSIDES ABSOLUTELY NONE", 5 seconds after joining?

>>102768282
did she say ''we are much better than hololive'' or is it your monkey brain working on crack?

>>102768648
Yes she did because of course a corp with ZERO DOWNSIDES would logically be better than Hololive. Stop coping with mental gymnastics you pathologically lying retard.

>>102766881 (OP)
Cons: Is a con

>>102767829
I still think that's Pomu.

>>102767829
Nah, that'd be Pomu

>>102768648
Different anon here, she did say that actually. Or do you need the exact quote because you are too retarded to read between the lines? Either way, you are unemployed now vhoefag.

>>102767829
still Tony.

>>102768784
List me the cons of hololive

>>102769553
no flesh stream with jav girls

>>102766881 (OP)
She actually deserves to get scammed. Only retards think that there are no cons in a business.

>>102766881 (OP)
>Clownson

>>102769058
>read between the lines
also known as
>it fits my narrative so it's ok to assume
quote or fuck off rrat peddler

>Cons: none
In Kson's defense. She was just foreshadowing the amount of convention appearances Vshojo was going to have in the second half of 2025.

>>102766881 (OP)
>cons: out of millions

>>102768282
search for her name or "creative freedom" on the archives between july 2021 and july 2022
don't even try to rewrite history like this, you still do this exact same shit to everyone who leaves like dooby, nimi and saba
literally indistinguishable from nijisisters

>>102768282
Personally I looked own on what she did with her "creative freedom"
Chaturbate
Nuxtaku collabs
Trash Taste

Just all around bottom of the barrel

>>102768282
also:
>YASSSSS MY CORPO HAS LITERALLY NO DOWNSIDES ABSOLUTELY NONE"
if you could read or understand spoken japanese you would know that what she said in that stream was more like "as of now i can't think of any downsides"
but you probably didn't even watch the stream and just saw a screencap in the paggie thread and have seethed about it for literally 3 years

>>102770982
Retard you have nothing to stand on. You are arguing "not guilty" because she didn't say the EXACT WORDS "I am guilty". You are a braindead dumbass who argues for the sake of arguing and now tries to hide the truth by saying "cuz my japanese". Vhoejo doesn't pay you anymore faggot.

she already said she was wrong, what's with the posts going
>uhm erm she didn't actually mean it like that...
what even is the point, she made a mistake end of story

>>102771627
>Retard you have nothing to stand on
except for the things she actually said
while you've been mad at the translation of a fucking powerpoint slide for three years

>>102766881 (OP)
>Cons: Zero revenue for the corpo to use.

>Ayo this bitch slandering talent FOR FREE

>>102766881 (OP)
Four years ago:
“Japanese corpos are trash! VShojo is the future! Wake up sheeple! HoloEN talents have no freedom—they’re just reading scripts! They’re being exploited! Talent freedom!!”

One year ago:
“Some left VShojo? So what? Unlike Hololive, we have options! Me = VShojo = based! I know a lot about VTubers and everyone says Japanese companies suck! Should’ve joined VShojo lol.”

Now:
“VShojo is trash! I was deceived! I had no financial freedom and was forced to read corpo-praising scripts under NDA…
…but hey, I’m still better off than those loser Hololive talents.”

>>102772937
surely she said all of these things and they are not the delusions of a lead poisoned peruvian from the numbers thread

>>102766881 (OP)
Reminder that Gura fell for it too since she followed Gunrun on her other account

>>102766881 (OP)
she didnt heard completely what gunrun said, He said none of the money will go to you bank account LMAO

>>102768282
She just bought Gunrun's sales pitch wholesale. She really believed in the whole spiel, and she thought that helping poach her former co-workers, whom she was still friends with, would be "saving" them.
I don't think she ever malicious, just incredibly naïve.

>>102773644
more monkey delusions
very nice

>>102766881 (OP)

>>102766881 (OP)
Con: Artists

>>102769058
timestamp?

>>102766881 (OP)
NONE
O
N
E

>>102773916
and instead she got 0%

>>102773916
>>102774200
100% supas and 0% merch is better than 50% supas and 2% merch
she made more money than njii organs while being defrauded lmao

>if I post cons:none over and over people might forget that she said hololive is a black company too

>>102773916
Reading this shit now it's amazing, like that "just let them go" comes across as "we're gonna poach them."
And the 50% part feels so unnecessary it's not even fun.
It's almost like she's posting a job offer for others, indies or corpos.

>>102766881 (OP)
Cons: It is full of delusional people, Kson included.

it's nice to see that the brony-sister alliance can come together at times like this
they are the exact same thing with different junk in their trunk after all

>>102774312
vshojo is dead bro. it's time to let it go.

>>102774754
What if I told you that the indies are making fun of her? She is so stupid she let her money go to the drain for believing a model that never works.
It is not even the first company that does this.

People still don't understand that vshojo only started falling apart last year, in 2024.
Kson's speech was in 2022.
Niji continues with its 2%.

>>102774754
>>102767246
>>102773740
>>102770982
>>102768648
kson's last brave solider.
Not for money, not even for the IOUs.
You can rest now solider.

>>102773740
>Kson went from "I will never join another corpo" in 2021 to Joining Vshojo in 2022
>Spent that entire being time paraded around by Gunrun and yelling from the high heavens that Vshojo was the only company around that was paying talents fairly
>Vshojo's entire business model relied upon poaching other big name talents from either Holo or Niji, and she liked aided this by convincing Rushia to join
>Acknowledging ANY of this makes you a "delusional monkey"

The smug arrogance right till the very end is what gets me.

>>102775954
>Started falling apart in 2024
They were running the equivalent of a ponzi scheme. It was bound to fall apart from the beginning because the model was unsustainable.

>>102776691
she never said that

>>102775954
Really? Because Veibae basically said it was a shitshow from the get-go. She only ever tolerated the garbage.

oh it was a con alright

>>102776813
that's funny because she actually said she wanted to sign up again but only didn't because of the new schizo contract

>>102776722
>the very end
>2022

>>102776780
No, in 2024 the money they had from the financing ran out.
>>102776813
Not everyone had the same contract; at least JP had a different one.

>>102777023
>They run out of money because they could not get money from new investors
So, ponzi scheme.

>>102776904
Kson has never once publicly criticized Vshojo and has dutifully acted as a good PR soldier right until the very end. She put up her reputation to prop up Vshojo's. Why is she a dindu nuttin again?

>says that talent IP ownership is important
>demonstrates how by surviving a corporate explosion
hololandlords seething

>>102766881 (OP)
I think she got tricked by the Western Twitch Streamers saying and acting like Western Vtuber community was better and more free than JP Corpos.
There was a huge ass psyop going on, not just by Vshojo but by actual flesh streamers who weren't Vtubers solely to bait and trick as many as they can to join their groups.

>>102777076
>It was embezzlement. they wanted to implement the Ponzi scheme at the end of 2024 to prevent employees from leaving, but it blew up in their faces.

>>102777284
>when people say my hobby is a scam, it's a psyop

>>102777076
>>102777317
Sorry about the green text, I'm at work and a bit busy.

>>102777261
IP ownership wasn't a thing Vshojo management even tried to claim, nobody is complaining or google dockeying about that, and is not even related to the discussion of this shitshow. She survived a thing that wasn't threatened.

>>102777414
>IP ownership wasn't a thing Vshojo management even tried to claim
oh so we're just lying now

>>102775954
It was failing the whole time, it was just propped up by the $11M they started with. 2024 is when that money dried up

>>102777114
>Kson has never once publicly criticized Vshojo and has dutifully acted as a good PR soldier right until the very end.
>2023

>>102777438
Who said anything about that?

>>102777261
kekson's commie paradise: you work for us for free but hey at least you get to keep your name and model!

>>102777486
vshojo heavily advertised that aspect

>>102777511
That they do NOT own the talents' IPs? Yeah, that's what I said. Kson survived a thing that was never threatened.

>>102777554
what

>>102777468
This is the part where you show me Kson publicly criticizing Vshojo even just a little bit.

>>102775954
You will never get a vpoacho paycheck again for spreading lies.

>>102777597
several streams after anime expo this year

windy big olaf helmir fukin holodrones kson is the greatest vtuber

>>102777284
>There was a huge ass psyop going on, not just by Vshojo but by actual flesh streamers who weren't Vtubers solely to bait and trick as many as they can to join their groups.
Nah they're just dumb/idealistic people who took a big money contract from a corporation who's business model wasn't actually sustainable
That happens all the time in the entertainment industry

>>102777495
So gullible that woman is. Being part of a poaching strat, money unpaid, "no cons".

>>102777261
>$0 have been deposited into your account

>>102777769
>t. the holoearth cash shop bank account

>>102777658
I love how the knights of kson have all these random names of people they grudge against they pull out of a hat.

>>102777597
Are you referring to his recent tweets and the video he made with the CEO of the JP branch?

>>102777601
Gunrun's hatred was directed at hololive, not nij's betas.
There's no need to lie.

>>102777817
It's literally just one guy who does it, and me who brings it up to make fun of him.

>>102777941
I hope he's doin okay...

When is she opening the Onlyfans

>>102769611
This is wrong, apparently they go insane

>>102766881 (OP)
kek so much constant shilling for this

>>102766881 (OP)
>Cons: "Get baited by the sweet words of a fraudulent business model, just like me"

>>102773916
She shouldn't have stuck her nose in other's businesses.

Con(vict)s: the ex-CEO, CFO, COO.

>sisters still seething about the 2% tweet

>>102778820
>vshilljo still seething that their company collapsed

Do holofags still want her back in Hololive or not?

>>102766881 (OP)
the grudge posting against her for her astronomically wrong decision making makes me so happy