Time has redeemed them.

>>103012208 (OP)
Nah, Time itself doesn't heal anything.
It's their decision to turn their back on the Homos regardless of reason is why they get the chance to redeem themselves. And with their own challenges and triumphs they regained their Idolhood and has pledged to never lose it again.

>>103012208 (OP)
Mori no but Kronii yes

>>103012542
>Mori no
Y not?

>>103012560
Yeah why not? Calli may still Collab with StarsJP but it's for the purpose of extending her reach to those VRC stuff which has important people like Musicians, Seiyuu's, Illustrators, and big wigs in the JP entertainment industry. Plus Mori has pledge her Idol-hood and become Cover corps dogs till the end of time. Cuz she really ain't gonna belong anywhere especially when the you know what has shut down

>>103012208 (OP)
It's not hard to pull off when the competition is even more cucked than they are.

they cucked you
they won

>>103012208 (OP)
Unironically Gigi has done a lot for their optics. I always liked Mori but Kronii seemed like a lost cause until Gigi got to her.

>>103012208 (OP)
Mori, grudgingly, yes. Kronii not yet.

I still hate Mori's music, and especially how normies ride her dick, but she's not the homocollabing yab machine who didn't get the whole 'idol' thing that she used to be.
She proven her dedication to Hololive, calmed down her stupid impulses, but most of all has consistently grinded and streamed for years, even through bad health and being unable to speak. She's committed, and that gets points from me, even though I have her channel blocked on Holodex and Spotify.

Kronii has yet to show any kind of consistency, she still streams with the energy of a neet being woken up at 5am, her holy boobers freak out and god awful outfits weren't that long ago, and her agreeing with members about homo-collabs, only to change her mind the next day and hide behind big daddy Cover still leaves a bad taste.
Basically she's a lazy menhera who flip-flops every week, and this maid outfit is just her trying to win back gachis with a submissive& breedable backflip on her previous established stances. Forgive her at your own risk.

>>103012208 (OP)
How so? Can you explain cause I don't know about it

>>103014770
This >>103013426 covers most of it.
Kronii's about-face with members is in pic related.
Mori is less simple, ask 20 different Mori haters why they don't like her and they'll have different answers. Pretty much from debut she'd been handing out different reasons to say she doesn't belong in Hololive. But time and grind has won back SOME respect.

>>103012208 (OP)
Still don't like them

>>103012208 (OP)
As unlikable as they were before. Maybe Kronii less so.

>>103012542
Maybe not fully, but she's been behaving lately

>>103012208 (OP)
Kronii is /ourgirl/ so I'm glad she's not being near any homos, especially given the current homos are very low quality. She's also very bad at fanservice, so bad in fact she horseshoes herself into being hilarious.
Never cared about Mori, she can do whatever as far as I'm concerned. I'll never think of her as particularly feminine and her attempts at fanservice are cringe.

>>103014770
>How so?
Others have proven to be worse while they actually work to fix their behavior.

>>103012208 (OP)
Was it worth the sacrifices required?
The djinn agreed to turn these two from holo destroyers into holo idols.

But in turn he made us lose Ame, Gura, Mumei and he also cursed Fauna

>>103012560
She had some off collab with some jap

>>103012542
This guy gets it

>>103012208 (OP)
It's baffling how these two went from my least watched and most hated to my most watched and least hated. They've been consistent hard workers, they showed that they really truly actually love their fans, and not to mention they've become so feminized.

>>103024039
Not really baffling. After everything Kronii has done she just released a maid model with a tit shadow and shy braid-holding pose, and ex-kronies crawled back on their bellies to buy her full merch set. You people disgust me almost as much as chumcucks.

>>103024039
dyrbi?

>>103012208 (OP)
They were redeemed by finding fulfillment.

>Kronii struggling VA trapped in the Ack Death Spiral
>realizes she's probably just gay and likes to be called cute
>gets some VA work
>chills out

>Mori struggling singer/rapper trapped in a wagie death spiral
>gets popular enough to hold concerts and sell albums
>chills out

No. They are both trash still.

>>103023664
Gura needed to leave. You can tell by her attitude as Saba she had burned out in the corporate model of vtubing. She put in 5 years as the top of the industry let other people make names for themselves.

Ame is gonna do Ame things.

Fauna and Mumei I'll give you.

>>103012208 (OP)
Time has left us no other options. People didn't move on to the new options, only the old ones they didn't like before.

The only trinity left, now you're left with homobeggars, untalented whores, and the only decent member is nothing without the bots