Why does noone ever talk about the fact 70% of donations are pocketed by yt/twitch?

>>103094728 (OP)
Nobody cares.

proof?

Because you are retarded. It is 30% on youtube, and on twitch it might as well be 0 since most donations aren't going through twitch.

bro never challenge the duopoly bro

>Streaming website cut WAH WAH
You have no idea how much it costs to run and archive the streams you watch

>>103095206
i don't want to gobble on corpocock but it is pretty insane how services like youtube and twitch can even exist. especially youtube. it's almost impossible to comprehend what kind of technical infrastructure is behind that site and people just take it for granted like it's the most obvious thing in the world

>>103094728 (OP)
It's 30%

>>103095349
They purposefully operate on a loss just to maintain a duopoly and stomp out any competition
It's like the big tech equivalent of walmart

>>103095349
pretty sure youtube runs at a loss but the data is so valuable it doesn't matter

>>103095425
>>103095430
Which meand that if they didn't run at a loss they'd take an even bigger cut or make users pay for uploading content.

>>103094728 (OP)
All that bandwidth costs money. 70 percent is a little crazy but 50 percent sounds reasonable

>>103094728 (OP)
It's 30% you retard.

>>103094777
>and on twitch it might as well be 0 since most donations aren't going through twitch.
twitch's equivalent to superchat is bits and they do take a cut

>>103094728 (OP)
stop noticing

>>103096442
I thought they didn’t take a cut on bits since a fee is baked into the price.

>>103096595
what's the difference?

>>103095430
YouTube hasn’t run at a loss for years

>>103094728 (OP)
because streamers also have direct donation links where they get 90%+. The market has spoken, no one cares.

>>103096595
They tell you upfront that the cut is taken when you buy bits, they don't take the cut from the streamer

>>103095349
And in the case of members, SCs, donations etc. they also need to supply the infrastructure for payment processing, which includes stuff like credit card fees and the like.

>>103094728 (OP)
Because they're not donations, and because the platforms would operate at a financial loss if they only got the upfront money.

>>103094728 (OP)
Reminder that twitch was never profitable even once in its life.

>>103094728 (OP)
I was wondering why so few streamers seem to use alternatives like Stream Elements. When I checked their website I understood. Its a cacophony of cancer and they don't even mention that they let you take donations.

>>103098928
They should just use ko-fi instead

>>103096595
That is true but the viewer ends up paying the twitch tax burden on their end

>>103094728 (OP)
>Platform
Youtube takes 30%
Twitch takes 50% (30% when you're partnered)
>Taxes
Taxes take 30%
>Corpo cut
Hololive takes 50%
Nijisanji takes 50%

>>103094728 (OP)
Indie avengers should just make their own streaming service that stores vods forever

>>103101577
>Twitch takes 50% (30% when you're partnered)
That's actually incorrect. If you're just a partner then it's still 50%. It becomes 40% if you're partner plus level 1 and 30% if you're partner plus level 2

>>103095425
Walmart doesn't run at a loss.

>>103101577
>donate $100
>subtract YouTube cut = $70
>subtract corporate income tax = $55
>subtract corpo cut = $27
>subtract federal income tax = $21
>subtract state income tax = $19

>>103102509
>donate to an indie SEA chuuba through streamelements

>>103102509

>>103094728 (OP)
the fuck you want me to do about it

>>103094728 (OP)
I'd rather give my money to a corporation than a woman.

>>103102701
>donate $100 to 1view indie SEA chuuba
>converts to 50 billion ringgits
>country is too dumb to realize some jungle autist owes taxes
>she becomes your girlfriend

>>103103072
don't tempt me, anon, I already have yellow fever

>>103094728 (OP)
It's 30% and we've discussed this topic to death already

>>103094728 (OP)
I donate through StreamElements

>>103102509
Corporate income tax is taken from Cover's cut, not the talent's. No company takes corporate income tax from their employees or contractor's payments.
The talent gets $35 of every $100 superchat. Then they have to pay the appropriate income taxes, of which they are all likely in the top percentage income bracket.

This is why you just buy multiple sets of merch instead of throwing SC around
What percentage of memberships does YT take? I've read less than SCs but I never saw real confirmation

>>103096442
>he uses bits for donations

>>103094728 (OP)
Because corpos are greedy

>>103095425
>They purposefully operate on a loss just to maintain a duopoly and stomp out any competition
You think so? I remember when youtube had competition and they all died out due to operating cost.

>>103095430
Data peering agreements means the more you watch the cheaper it is for these tech giants can slurp up all the data on the internet

>>103105919
I don't use twitch and you're retarded if that's your takeaway from reading that post

>>103105668
30% is assumed for both afaik.

>>103105668
I'll write splits as streamer/platform:

YouTube has the 70/30 split on the revenue received by google (e.g. for apple pay, you need to remove 30% apple tax first, then split).

Twitch is a bit complicated:
Bits: 1 Bit = 1cent for the streamer, but buying Bits has a 60-30% upcharge (the more you buy, the better)

Subs, 50/50, 60/40, 70/30 depending on your partner tier. You get 60/40 if you have 100 subs (excluding prime and gift subs), and 70/30 if you have 300 subs.

>>103094728 (OP)
youtube takes 30%

>>103105029
>No company takes corporate income tax from their employees or contractor's payments.
Isnt this exactly what ex-nijis accused niji of doing? Paying corporate taxes directly out of talent cuts?