They're the only ones in EN with this in their bios from what I've seen, you have to donate $20 just to get your name read, and $50+ for a full message. Am I just being a pussy or is this really scummy to anyone else?

>>103100831 (OP)
either scummy or lazy
not looking good

>>103100831 (OP)
>>103100888
Not like you unicorns even have money in the first place or think that sending superchats is a good thing

Are you stupid? It's been this way since a few of their fag fans would send 25 oranges in a stream every stream back in 2023 to be read as much as possible. Their game streams back then were half SC half game most of the time because they didn't want to fall behind on oranges. They upped it to 50 to be read fully late 2023 I think.

>>103100831 (OP)
From what I remember some other Holos will only thank you for low superchats not read the message even if it's not part of the rules.

>>103100929
not a unicorn but considering how fucking high the shipping prices are in burgerland, it is a good thing for the chuubas

>>103100831 (OP)
It’s to stop fags from spamming $2 supas so their name get read multiple times.

>>103100831 (OP)
BUY BUY

>>103100976
Only Japan and America are relevant in vtubing. The rest of you are poor and useless.

yeah you are a pussy

>>103100962
Most EN and JP Holos do this. I think FWMC were the first to make a menu though.

>>103100960
A lot of Twitch streamers thank every sub on stream.

>>103100962
i've seen smaller SC read out if theyre actually good

>>103101021
i LIVE in burgerland...i'm poor though lmao

>mention FWMC
>sisters start seething
The ten seconds of silence was fatal

>>103100831 (OP)
based. more people should do this

>>103100831 (OP)
They did this because
1. they get way more superchats than anyone else in the branch
2. a lot of people would spam cheap superchats to get read
ruffians (except maybe the poorest of the poorfags) overwhelmingly support this

No one told you to donate to them or even continue supporting or watching them? It shouldve been clear since they dropped EN that they dont give a shit about plead or whatever.

>>103100831 (OP)
its ok when hololive does it <3 not grifting <3

>>103101170
its two fucking people thats covers fault for hiring 2 people for one channel

>>103101193
kill yourself ATMling

>they only read akasupas at the moment and the rest of the SC at the end of the stream on in a didecated SC reading stream
You mean like literally every other holo?

>>103100995
This anon gets it
I didn't realize people were abusing SC like this until I started watching more JP indies

I've never understood the point of SCs instead of TTS. SC readings always feel artificial, and it's for the people that like hearing their name read? With TTS they can at least make it an organic part of their stream since they can respond in real time. SC readings can work in a zatsu only stream I guess.

>>103101165
How is it based to be a lazy, greedy cunt? how about turning off Superchat?

>>103101136
>twitch
>full of text-to-speech cancer interrupting every stream

>>103100831 (OP)
what an interestingly camgirl-style interaction purchasing menu, I'm surprised there hasn't been more since they're good for driving sales. They should really go further and get a wheel to spin to spice it up, though. Something like a 10% chance for them to kiss, per akasupa would probably drive a lot of money.

>>103101250
TTS is disruptive as fuck unless you limit it like crazy

>>103101278
>Something like a 10% chance for them to kiss, per akasupa
are there any GFE vtubers who do this?

>>103101250
i think the issue with TTS is that people can flood the stream with nonsensical although not inappropriate messages

>>103101299
I don't think there are, but think of how much money they could make if they were the first...

>>103101193
Still not watching Phase Connect

>>103100831 (OP)
I see no issue with honesty.
>B-b-b-but it's greedy!
No.

>>103101271
"sub" not "donation"

>>103101386
>he hasn't seen channels where the resub message is also TTS'd out

>>103101250
TTS is for the desperate. Sacrificing stream quality just so can financially stable idiot can spam messages the whole stream.

The sheer amount of SCs they get would be incredibly disruptive if they fully read it all on stream, they're the most superchatted ENs I think, you can argue the benchmark but putting it on the description is good so viewers know what to expect at least.

>>103101417
And the ones not doing it are incomparably superior to Fuwamoco (greedy, overrated bitches who won VTuber of the year).

I guess with vtubers feel obligated to respond, which can incentivize people to senselessly spam shit like "it's my birthday!" or "wow you guys are great.", whereas other streamers can just ignore benign comments.

>>103101171
I've asked several people this and none of them have answered me. They still stream in English at NA times so please explain how they've "dropped" EN?

>>103100831 (OP)
Forget it, OP. There is not enough Holodrones on the board, nevermind cuckfians, to make this bait worth it.

>>103100831 (OP)
Not even the first time, they openly did a "only akasupa read" stream last year using their pero mascot.

That said, this is extremely scummy and predatory to.

>>103101647
Is NA all of " EN "? What about the rest of " EN "? Count yourself lucky that you can catch a live stream, watching a vod doesnt capture the same feelings of being part of the community - Im aware you wont understand since youre most likely a dirty neet.

>>103100831 (OP)
It's fine when Hololive does it

>>103100831 (OP)
>top earner in her gen
scummy or not, it's clearly working

>>103101754
So you can't explain then. They're still streaming at the exact same time, they never "dropped" you because they never appealed to you in the first place

>>103101754
>If you are Holo EN, you have to accommodate all English-speaking countries.

>>103100831 (OP)
theyve had this since the beginning if they REALLY wanted to be scummy theyd have 500$ membership tiers to have your name put on their body. now thats scummy

>>103100960
During their School Days watchalong, Anan sent a detailed orange SC after every single episode (12) and also sent 5 more oranges along with those

>>103100831 (OP)
her face when you send any superchat other than a happy birthday

>>103100831 (OP)
greedy dogs

>>103101250
benefit to viewers who didn't send the TTS = none
benefit to viewers who didn't send the superchat = streamer can ignore or recognize, in its entirety or simply part if it, whenever they feel like
They are streaming to thousands of people, making the experience worse for 99.9% of you audience isn't remotely worth if financially on any timescale beyond the stream itself.

>>103100831 (OP)
They're the highest superchatted in EN and the fourth highest in the company.
If they didn't do this then they would spend 8-12 hours every week reading superchats. They used to read oranges too, but some fans would spam 5 $20 superchats in a row and it became overwhelming. Many holos don't even read superchats. So I'm not sure why you think it's scummy. It seems like you don't even watch them at all.

>>103102276
Some would do way more than 5
>>103102003

>>103100831 (OP)
It's crazy how that faggot Anan ruined everything for everyone else

>>103100929
Unicorns are the only ones insane enough to give money for a message to be read

>>103101285
Yeah, TTS is so much worse. My oshi tried it as a test for one or two streams and I don’t think anyone actually liked it

>>103100929
>Not like you unicorns even have money in the first place or think that sending superchats is a good thing
Lmao. You pathetic fucking retard. Look how wrong you are. >>103102276
They've been superchatted over $120k in 2025 alone, the highest in EN and 33% more than the next highest, which is also a unicorn friendly holo.

>>103101136
most over a certain size don't, sure as hell the likes of shylily or ironmouse don't even see most subs unless it's a sub gift bomb or a tier 3

>>103101136
95% of their streams would be thanking superchats if that was the case.

>>103101193
sorry your $1 superchat never got read out

>>103101136
Yeah, and that's because your twitch whore oshi only gets 2-3 subs per stream, retard.

>>103100831 (OP)
IMHO i think SC should either not be read at all on stream or make a stream reading them. If it takes away from the stream then the SC is just there to overturn the stream. If you think you are so funny then stream for yourself. I hate this culture of "the person on the other end HAS TO answer me...THEY HAVE TO DO IT NOOOOW!"

no way they read SCs after stream lol

>>103102623
watch streams nigger

>>103100962
Not my oshi which is good

>>103100831 (OP)
The idea of purchasing superchat itself is fucking stupid in the first place

>>103101250
TTS sucks and interrupts the stream.
See, this is why hololive fans hate twitch culture.
We don't want to be watching an emotional part of a movie or having some super hype moment in a game with our oshi and then
_-_uNd3r_RAGE_da_f4GGenLord_-_
drops 800 bits for Microsoft Sam to say benisbenisbenisbenisbenis and then activate "wetdiarrheafart.wav".

>>103102531
They never read SCs in the middle of streams, they read them at the end

>>103101693
>this is extremely scummy and predatory to.
How? Explain why this is predatory or scummy without sounding like a jealous, limp-wristed faggot.

>>103101136
Thanks for reminding me why I don't watch twitch

>>103102276
This
>>103100831 (OP)
Braindead

>>103101754
>NEET
They stream at 9 PM EST / 6 PM PST. How are those "NEET hours"? If your problem with them is them not streaming for hours good for Europe, then tough shit. That would mean they'd have to stream at 4 in the morning their time to be night time Euro hours. How the ever living fuck could you be that selfish and lack so much self-awareness.
If you mean them occasionally doing a JP stream during JP hours, which is like 3 AM EST / 12 AM PST, then how is that abandoning their fans when those streams are rare and make up about 5% of their total streams?
Even if you're an anti larping as someone who feels "betrayed" by a rare JP stream, your arguments are so fucking stupid that you just come off as a ridiculous, whiny faggot.

>>103102276
if you're gonna make a fake ragebait list, at least make the numbers believable

>>103101136
yeah yeah and Pippa used to read every name in chat as a 3view. There's a reason she stopped too.

>>103103142
>fake
You realize there's multiple numberfaggot sites that track this stuff, right? I don't think I've ever seen someone who was so much of a tourist that they accused one of the superchat charts of being fake. What are you doing here? I don't mean in this thread, but on /vt/. There's zero chance you watch vtubers or have been here longer than 15 minutes.

>>103103254
half of these names have graduated and even if you track their whole career, they would have more streams. you would know this if you weren't a dumb tourist

>>103103142
https://playboard.co/en/channel/UCt9H_RpQzhxzlyBxFqrdHqA/superchat
>Super Chat Total Revenue: $844,779 ($1,130 / d)
>Last 7 Days Revenue: $11,183
Fucking idiot.

>>103100831 (OP)
I think unicorns should be noticed less by chat and streamer.

Make it $1K minimum to speak it. Censored of it's anything sexual/proclamation of adoration/hate/meme/random bullshit.

>>103103353
>half of these names have graduated
Only five. And they were all during this year. Which is why their streams are included in the YEAR TO DATE superchat list, you dumb fucking nigger.
>and even if you track their whole career, they would have more streams.
That chart is the superchats from streams in 2025 alone, you stupid, illiterate ESL retard.
Holy fuck, you are dumb. It's incredible that you can even operate a keyboard.

>>103103353
Are you stupid? This is for 2025. The ones who graduated have their names in grey and they are near the top because their fans went all out for their graduation month

funny how many bullshit excuses and justifications they come up with when it's someone from hololive kek

>>103100831 (OP)
Do you know marine only read reds? And that koyori has the same policy?

>>103100831 (OP)
its just one of those things that "feels bad" when laid out in black and white like this, but in reality is just the business and there's nothing really wrong with it, in a pragmatic sense.
superchat = paying money for visibility, possibly being noticed and acknowledged on stream, in a chat that is otherwise too fast to notice *everyone*.
for like 90% of the audience being acknowledged isn't even a consideration, you are just there to enjoy the stream. then for some % they want to really be noticed and don't mind paying money.
however in the EN fanbase i feel its a much bigger % that wants to feel like a main character, take part in discord circlejerks, constantly spamming chat/SC/twitter for replies and act like some "leader of the community". you have all those fags named like "Nerissa's Right Horn" etc that seemingly want more attention than the streamer themselves. japs seem happier just blending in with the crowd, by and large.

if it really bothers you and yes there is a sensible, if cynical perspective, "paying money for a cartoon e-girl to notice you is pathetic as fuck" you have two options. either you can ignore that aspect and just enjoy the streams, or you are in the wrong hobby entirely and should go do something else.

and just on a different note, there is a different culture for the most part in "interacting with chat" from Hololive to a typical Twitch stream. on twitch it's normal and expected that you are CONSTANTLY reading chat and sub/dono messages. in Hololive it's more like you enjoy the entertainment given and reading SC or interacting with chat is an entirely dedicated stream / stream segment in its own.
personally that's something i like because most twitch content is fucking unwatchable with constant chatter shit, notifications etc.

>>103103522
>>103103535
nowhere in the image does it say it's for this year. even if it is, the information was omitted on purpose to evoke reactions, so you're getting angry at the wrong person

>>103100831 (OP)
>Am I just being a pussy or is this really scummy to anyone else?
Neither.
You're just an anti-social freak

>>103103607
I think most holos do a pretty good job of reading chat while streaming. I mean it's not like they read or see every chat message, because there are usually hundreds that scoll by per minute, but almost all of them keep an eye on chat while playing games and will interact with chat a lot.

>>103103704
Why don't you go ahead and try reading the name of the image, anon?

>>103103805
july 2025? that implies it's for one month and not the whole year so you're still wrong

Its good policy to have clear rules for consistancy. Stop being a dramafag we have enough serious nightmares to worry about.

so how do we feel about the girls that don't read SC at all?

>>103103704
Besides the name of the image itself, it literally says YEAR TO DATE SUPERCHATS in a big blue line at the very top of the image. Even if you ignored the title, incorrectly assumed it wasn't for July, and was a month or two months old, it would still mean for this year. And anyone would understand that it's for 2025 from the fact that the recently graduated members are greyed out and have streams on the chart.

>>103100831 (OP)
When did leafs become bad people? They were always kind in my mind. At this point, they may well be florida people.

>>103103928
>(YTD) in the file name
>"Year to Date" at the top of the image
Nope, you're just really embarrassingly stupid.

>>103103963
okay I can kind of see where you're coming from but the fact that it took us this long to understand what the list is about means it was lacking clarity

It's normal for channels that get a lot of donos to paygate reading them, even outside of Vtubing. It ruins the flow of the stream if they're constantly doing shout outs every five seconds.

>>103101136
no twitch streamer over 1,000 CCV does this
then you have the ones under 100 CCV who thank every follow

>>103100831 (OP)
a lot of members do this, they just don't have it written
from what I remember one of the fist ones to do this was la creatividad because she was getting overwhelmed by her very difficult job, she invented it just like everything vtuber related

>>103101250
SC reading = personal reading, some questions/topics can go on for 10-30 minutes, depending on how engaging/relevant/probing/etc the SC message is. TTS is lazy tier

>>103100831 (OP)
Nice to know what you get for your money, more vtubers should do this

>>103104123
It wasn't my image, and as a standard practice, I agree it should say "Year to date July 2025" inside the image instead of just "Year to Date" in case it gets reposted with a randomized filename, but you are still a complete dumbass because everyone else knew what that chart meant and instead of asking why it looked off to you, you immediately accused me of posting fake ragebait instead.

>>103104255
so you admit i'm right and still call me a dumbass for calling you out? i don't even care about the list and you're still arguing about it just to get the last word

>people call exholos grifters while current holos are demanding $50 to read your message
lol lmao

I get read out by Mococo all of the time and I don't even send supas. I think they generally do a lot to make everyone feel engaged. Closest thing to JP in EN.

>>103101647
well they:
>do more JP collabs than non Advent collabs
>They cancel almost exclusively EN streams than JP streams.
>When they speak Japanese on Stream, watch how they interact with them vs a normal EN fan
>The ASMR incident
>they like and retweet more JP content than EN content
that is just some of it

>>103100831 (OP)
SC is a cancer. They should raise the price even more.

>>103102462
This is what blew up the chance I gave Sayu/Zion back in the day.
WTF are you doing woman. I don't watch streams to listen to you thank superchats 80% of the time, during fucking important game scenes too.

>>103100831 (OP)
They've had that in the description of every stream since 2023, so why make a thread about it today?

>>103105047
You are so pathetic that you have to dismiss advent collabs kek. And 95% of their content is still in EN

>>103101250
>I've never understood the point of SCs instead of TTS.
TTS is more disruptive to the stream than reading super chats at the end. Indie vtubers know that TTS hurts immersion but it makes viewers more likely to SC.

>>103102123
Ina hates the skimpy default outfit and has only done 1 superchat reading stream in 5 years. Ina is even more distant from takos than Kronii is from kronies. Both talents hate their current Hololive design and they don't really want fans to like them.

>>103100831 (OP)
They are professional grifters. Out of everyone who has ever been in holo they are by far the most dedicated to siphoning away all of your money.

>>103104493
No. You were very clearly wrong. I only agreed with you insomuch that if I had made it, I would have labeled the chart "Year to Date, July 2025" to protect it from being misunderstood in a future hypothetical circumstance where it might be reposted without the original filename.
However, considering I reposted it with its original filename, it was completely understandable and you were the only one who seemed to ignore both the filename and the Year to Date label within the image itself.

>>103105549
Today? Deflection from Reimu graduation.
This month? Holoantis are just getting more and more desperate since the vshill farm burned down.

>>103103957
I dunno, I think my oshi is a bit crazy but it feels nice to have just tons of extra time for vidya games. She's had it off excepting birthdays for almost three years I think.

>>103100831 (OP)
I appreciate it, desu. I'm not going to SC them, but having a rigid set of rules in place as to how they will be read is nice. It would be better if the rules were more generous, but...

>>103105816
Yeah I don't get the big deal. They've outlined things so you don't waste money trying to get read or whatever people try with their SCs

>>103105047
>do more JP collabs than non Advent collabs
Because EN members don't ever stream and the ones that do play solo games like biboo.
>They cancel almost exclusively EN streams than JP streams.
Confirmation bias. They cancel EN streams more frequently because 95% of their streams are EN streams. Not to mention that EN streams are in the early morning for them, so they're at a more difficult time anyway, and yet they still make the effort to have 95% of their streams be during EN primetime.
>When they speak Japanese on Stream, watch how they interact with them vs a normal EN fan
It's the same. It's really funny that you think we'd believe you speak Japanese or that you'd think Ruffians didn't know more Japanese than you. You can even use auto translation to see what they're saying to JP fans during JP streams if you don't believe what the professional translator that they hired types in chat. The professional translator they pay a fortune for precisely because they are so considerate of their EOP fans.
>The ASMR incident
The one where they refused to do any ASMR besides whisper because they wanted to do it on their own channel first?
>they like and retweet more JP content than EN content
There is more JP hololive content than EN content, so of course they do. Additionally, if you haven't noticed, they are turbo weebs and so their interests lie in things like VNs and anime instead of game of thrones and breaking bad. So of course they are going to retweet the things that interest them more. Sorry if you expected them to retweet ERB's latest homocollab where she shits on FUWAMOCO's fans or something. Almost every Ruffian would rather they tweet about JP stuff more anyway.

>>103105733
everyone was confused, I was just the first one to call it out. or were you hoping for 100 (you)s from everyone who was confused?

>>103100831 (OP)
Most holos only read akasupas and some don't read supas at all, I'm glad fwmc still read all of her fans messages.

>>103102276
A lot of ENs doing way better than I would have expected, kudos to them

>>103100962
My oshi only ever thanks for superchats, no names even. It's not by choice but I love how anti-grifting she is in general.

>>103100831 (OP)
Didn't most of Myth decide to not read superchats at all because they were too lazy go through them?

>>103100831 (OP)
I never thought I'd see that with a vtuber. I've always thought that kind of stuff was scummy.

>>103101230
>abusing superchats
>reading something that takes 1-2 seconds
why are holopedos like this

>>103104123
>us
Recruiting for team retard are you?

>>103107496
You've never watched a stream where one autist with too much money decides to make all his chat messages $2 superchats

>>103101250
Must be bait, when TTS is on it always interrupts the streamer in the middle of their stories or thoughts and it can derail them.

>>103101250
TTS is so annoying my brain auto filters it
It's the most insufferable part of twitch vtubers

its just odd that they even have to explain this when its pretty much common sense
they treat their audience like literal toddlers

>>103106300
You were wrong and that's it. Own up to it.

>>103102769
This is definitely the twitch experience distilled into one post.

>>103100831 (OP)
Excuse me, it's not just getting your name read, it's name read + a BAU BAU

>>103100831 (OP)
Shit like this is why I stopped being a Deadbeat during the height of Holo's popularity. Mori just didn't read anything that wasn't a akasupa, it might be different now, but I've moved on.

Biboo thanks every single superchat but only reads the full message for yellow and above. It's the best approach imo and avoids low cost trolling aside from very rare VPN fags

>>103103957
>>103107278 (me)
She was upfront that she had to avoid reading supas to protect her throat, but reads them to herself after streaming. I think it's a good way to clearly say "supas are for giving your support or memeing about sneezes" and cuts out on a lot of bad jokes and people with main character syndrome. She still reads chat, but it definitely feels like "all miofa are equal".

She's also incredibly non-parasocial on Twitter, unlike some holos, and I wish more were like her.

>>103107947
She used to read aloud every single one but people were taking advantage of her and sending shit like 10 blue superchats
Since her manager made her change last year her superchat readings became so much better

>>103100831 (OP)
you really think all those million subscribers are mentally stable?

>>103107703
but I wasn't. it was confusing and you admitted it

>>103101271
There are multiple YouTubers I used to watch who moved to twitch and now their content is unwatchable because they get derailed every 60 seconds responding to some retard in chat or thanking someone for gift subs. Then I try to watch the vod and it takes twenty minutes to finish a story or get back to the game because one guy donates and gets thanked and then 30 more people start spamming them to get thanked. And every time it's
>"oh my god thank you SO MUCH guys for the bits. Thank you fartsniffer for the 5 gifties. Thank you johnny498 for the dono, let's see... 'i watch you every day it's so inspiring to see a bald streamer succeed' heh good one bro I'm not bald!! Thanks for the bits though.
For 15 minutes straight. Literally unwatchable for anyone other than parasocial paypigs.

>>103105494
That + the time when she implemented tangia bullshit, her streams became completely unwatchable.

>>103100995
It takes less than 6 seconds to read a chatters name and a short thank you. In other words, 600 superchats per hour are well possible. At $2 per superchat that's $1200/h, or about $400/hr for their share. Truly, what a torture to expect this.

Viewers don't support streamers.

>>103109220
that’s why I don’t watch twitch, also you forgot about tts bullshit, gifs that take half of the screen and different retarded sounds

>>103102440
That's in yen. In dollars - $844,779

>>103100831 (OP)
Aww, poor phasefag cant raid streams with red ARS akasupas
How sad~

>>103100831 (OP)
If anything they should read even less. They still spend way too much time reading SCs despite only reading pinks and reds. That's how crazy it is.

>>103100831 (OP)

>>103109426
It's not about that, it's so needy faggots don't monopolize the time and everyone can enjoy it the stream. If someone sends an aka and wants to see it get read they have to sift through 3 hours of retards who sent 20 5$ super chats instead to find theirs. Some members use their superchat section as a pseudo zatsudan to make it actually watchable and that only works if they have enough time to read and respond to a good amount of the chats instead of "thank you timmy for the 5$ bau bau. Thank you 420spid3rman bau bau. Thanks again Timmy for the 2$ bau bau." for 90 minutes straight.

>>103109879
Uh... no? It's not in yen.
121,625 yen is a little more than $800. They have received $121,625 from January through July 2025. That is what the number in the chart says.
Also, you seem to have just taken their total channel earnings from social blade over the last two years and confused that with the number in the chart and called it yen.
Why would you think that? Are you people just ESL or something? Do you not know what Year to Date means?
Or are you the same retard from earlier that crashed out because you didn't read the filename?

I think Kiara has a similar policy except for the orange, she'll read all the names. Sometimes she will read a random non pink or red though

>>103100831 (OP)
Damn grifters. So obvious.
Have the Holofans noticed they are being continually milked more than before?
What has Vtubing become?

>>103100831 (OP)
Reasonable honestly. SC have been kind of a problem for a while purely due to their number. If you've got to take a chunk out of a big part of your schedule just to read them it becomes kind of a burden and we know the girls have a weird amount of work they have to do behind the scenes too.
If it matters that much to someone they can still do it, they can just save the money up and donate however much they want for whichever one they want in a lump sum instead of ten $10 supahs. Honestly way easier.
Now I'm starting to think all the Holos should do it this way.

>>103110438
Sorry, I'm not him, I'm just dumb (and ESL). I converted $844,779 to yen and got ¥124 240,774. It was kinda similar to the numbers in >>103102276 and I thought "oh, so it's in yen", but haven't noticed that $844,779 number is a total, and it can't be equal to 124k yen. Money are just numbers to me.

>>103110865
SC should only be read if its interesting or has something to do with whatever is happening on stream atm. For everything else they should be just thanked as a whole with something like "Thank you for your superchats"

Corpo vtubers are nothing more the actual real grifters that only care about extracting money from their fanbase.

If you guys are mad as fuck about a vtuber who gets 10,000 viewers not reading your paid posts why don't you just watch a vtuber with 100ish~ viewers and get your funny joeks read for free after you memba and then she puts you in her excel sheet and stalks you to other chats (especially if you are particularly memorable or send her an akasuper) like a jealous girlfriend.