Say something nice about them

>>103124798 (OP)
if you can make it there, you'll make it anywhere i guess

>>103124798 (OP)
how did .6% get in

>>103124798 (OP)
newfag here
whis that in the mindle of phase conenct new member?

>>103125107
They fucking wish.

>>103124798 (OP)
holobros aren't gonna like this one

>>103125234
nothing to laugh at when they are the ones that got mint on the biggest stage she has has performed on

>>103125950
Pretty sure both Phantomethief and AX were both larger audiences. Don't know about the stage size, though.

>>103125107
No, she's from Hololive Myth.
>kek

>>103126053
>Pretty sure both Phantomethief and AX were both larger audiences
dont know about ax, but anyc had more people and did so with tickets only being onsale for 10 days

>>103126053
nta but Anime NYC is solidly now more prestigious than AX or random concert in a C tier city. hololive abandoned AX for a reason and is all in with New York because it is the A city and the place to be.

>>103126302
>>103126189
I know ANYC is objectively bigger
I'm saying the audience that attended was smaller and that they sold less tickets (or had less people in AX's case.)

>>103126053
>>103126413
they probably had ballpark same attendance, which says a lot more about dokeimint and the ax thing because those concerts were on sale for 2 months and came up way short

>>103124798 (OP)
>You now realize Mint strong-armed her way into being the Center of Phase's show while she was signed with Vshojo for the entire time

>>103124798 (OP)
do you think phase knew Mint was with vshojo at the time of this?

>>103126505
i don't even think mint was promoted as being on the ax concert. she just showed up it wasn't even her concert.

>>103126787
it was a Dokibird thing. AX could not get any other vtuber concerts because hololive ditched LA for New York because it is the more prestigious market

>mint can only be guests at big convention concerts when bigger acts get their foot in the door for her
ultimate leech

>>103126787
She wasn't. It was a surprise to all of us.
Though honestly this was the far bigger surprise
I bought a ticket mostly because they were friends of doki and mint, and I absolutely didn't expect this

>>103124798 (OP)
Good for the small corpo girls to make it to that kind of stage as small corpo girls.

>>103126730
Considering Matara and Mint podcast promoted the concert, i would suggest Phase did know

>>103127224
>>mint can only be guests at big convention concerts when bigger acts get their foot in the door for her
Isn't Mint more popular than literally any of Phase's members?

>>103127511
and yet it was phase that got her onto the anyc stage

>>103126505
Phase didn't sell out neither Doki and Mint.
I'm not sure what you are trying to do here.

>>103127627
Well yeah, you probably need some level of corporate backing to get into this cons in the first place
Mint was still LARPing as an indie, so I doubt she an LLC she could flex

>>103125950
>>103126053
>>103126505
The dokimint thing was 2700 seats IIRC.
I doubt the ANYC is bigger because that would mean Holo is selling out around 3k seats every single year, and it would be extra odd because their previous concert had 3k seats. Also the Dokimint thing was in the worst city for anime shit in the US (Atlanta).

>>103124798 (OP)

>>103127688
phase tickets were on sale for 10 days + you had to buy an anyc sunday badge plus a concert ticket
dokimint tickets were on sale for 2 months

>>103128108
Did Phase ever reveal how many tickets sold? Because from the videos we saw, it wasn't as full as the Holo concerts, meaning FantomeThief might have ended up selling more.

>>103127855
Tabernacle has 2600 seats. As you can see here,
FantomeThief I would guess had about 1200.
floor was full, second level was 50% full third level is mostly empty

>>103128262
That's one hell of a lowball, anon.

>>103128178
I would hope to god dokimint with tickets on sale for 2 months and cheaper tickets would sell more tickets than a concert that was on sale for 10 days before the day of the concert

>>103128178
Phase didn't sell out, we only know that.
>>103128108
They were in fucking Atlanta, bro. Holo fell short of around 100 tickets in that same city, and they usually sell out pretty much every venue. This year's Australia concert had only 30 tickets unsold, and the Canada one oversold. The capital of negros Atlanta is worse than fucking australia for vtubers, that's how grim that place is.
>>103128262
Depending on how many seats the 3rd floor has, it may have had more or fewer. I doubt the 3rd floor was that much.

>>103128262
I think this is a better image to use, but even then it's missing the sides and a chunk of the mid section.
Most estimates I've seen are more like 16-1800

>>103128262
Probably closer to 2000, as I doubt the 3rd level has more space than the floor + 2nd level.

>>103128324
it's not. if you look ata Tabernacle seating chart there are aprox 550 seats in the 3rd balcony alone, and that is mostly empty.

there is def more than 1200 for Fantom Thief. I think 1600-1800 is about right so about 65% capacity. The Phase concert had about 1000 and NYC mainstage is 1500, so also 65% capacity

>>103128346
>They were in fucking Atlanta
is what it is. they also had much cheaper tickets than the Phase concert.Their tickets were about $65, where as the Phase concerts was closer to $110 cause you had to buy a con pass as well and as the anon said, tickets literally only went on sale 1 week before the concert it is a miracle they had more than 30 people show up

also the Phase concert went head to head with Breaking Dimensions.

>>103128813
Not head to head, but they appeared on stage I think right before SOAR?
There were 2 holo concerts and phase that weekend iirc. I remember Mint talk about how she immediately went from the Phase concert to Soar, gushing about ERB showingg up in 2D.

>>103128927
No Mint doesnt know what she is talking about, it was head to head. Breaking Dimensions Day 2. The Kings theatre is over an hour away from Javits Center, so as a vtuber fan you could only go to one if you wanted to

SOAR was on Friday.

>>103124798 (OP)
>Special Guest : Mori Calliope
she's almost like an afterthought. Even on the Phase one Pippa and Uruka had a glowing white outline

>>103129065
I was going back to find the tweet, but instead I found this and got distracted.
That is a pretty cute Liz.

>>103128813
The Fantome Thief was also running against SOAR (Atlanta)

>>103129158
>>103129065
Ah. I misremembered and got mixed up.
Yeah, SOAR and fantomethief were the same night, not phase and soar.

>>103129158
with all due respect, soar is not a full holoen concert so surely you can understand the hotness in ticket being much higher for that than soar

>>103128346
>They were in fucking Atlanta
and that is my point in terms of it not being a big stage: it is a b tier city. nobody cares if you headline atlanta.
headline a main stage concert in new york? thats something.

>>103124798 (OP)
vtubers who did main concerts at the gorgeous javits center
>suisei
>watame
>bae
>mori
>nene
>irys
>kobo
>pippa
it just feels dirty

>>103126934
I mean... there was another group who wanted to perform at AX
Sadly not even 2% of AX staff remembered they existed to ask them.

>>103129300
Anon, does it matter if it's a "big stage" when the atlanta stage was not only bigger, but had more people in attendance? On top of that, it was actually live and not prerecorded.

>>103129300
nta but a better way of saying it is that Atlanta was the bigger stage, but ANYC was the more-renowned stage.

>>103129877
Yes. Mint is a b tier vtuber fit for b tier cities like Atlanta
Also FantomeThief was one of the ugliest 3D concerts we have ever seen it was a glorified vr stream.

>>103129976
Its not
Let me put it into vtuber terms what is the bigger stage: collabing with Filian to 8000 people, or collabing with a holo to 7000 people. I think you know the answer

>>103130053
The former is the bigger collab (more people watching), the latter is the more-renowned collab (holo).

Wisps are so retarded that they dont understand that by trying to say Atlanta is a bigger stage than New York that it makes Mint look like shit because she had to be carried by Dokibird in that concert

>"glorified vr stream"
>trying to pit wisps against dragoons
Oh the usual catalogfag has arrived, guess the time for serious conversations as ended.

>>103124798 (OP)
Holy shit! I love Phase Cnoect!

>>103130137
that is junk and you know it. you ask 1000 vtubers if they would rather collab with Filian or the smallest holo Kiara, and 1000 of them would say Kiara. Hell fucking Filian would say Kiara

>>103130425
>smallest holo, Kiara
Isn't she objectively their second biggest after Mori? Like with views, superchats, subs, etc.

>>103130153
It is not wisps doing it, it is dokis fans. mint made it to New York main stage.
Doki never did.

>>103130290
You can call him a nijinigger you know.

nobody ever got into the concert game to say “I wanna do it in atlanta wow what a dream” lmao
it is new york. always new york.

>>103130425
Unironically pick up a dictionary.

>>103130503
>mint vs doki
hoooly newfag

>>103130572
you don't even know what you're arguing about anymore

>>103130649
Nta but I get his point. Flexing you performed in Atlanta compared to NYC. You cant tell me that is the same thing?

>>103130722
No, the point he's trying to make is quite easy to understand.
It's just retarded because it only applies in a very specific instance. (Bragging about where you've performed rather than to whom or how many.)
I could rent out the room and broadcast myself to nobody and say I played on the same stage as Phase.

>>103130722
NYC is more prestigious, yes. Nobody is trying to say otherwise. But if you preform in Atlanta in a bigger venue and with a bigger audience, that performance is the bigger performance.

I would say the biggest stage Mint has been promoted for and performed on (so not including AX cause she was not promoted)
>1. ANYC
powergap
>2. FantomeThief
powergap
>3. Fantastic Reality
The keyword to the phrase "the big stage" is significance. ANYC is the most significant convention main stage you can get on. Only Holollive has gotten there (until somehow Phase did but that will never happen again)

>>103130795
Fair I guess.
In the end the argument is retarded because the original statement that started this topic was, "Mint should be thankful to Sakana for putting her on the big stage" When from what we've seen at both Fantomethief and the phase concert itself, it's far more likely that a significant portion of that venue was for Mint and Mint alone. I can't even imagine any phase fan of the other girls joining in on the wotagei or hamtaro circles, bar maybe Lia's.

Someone can explain to me why ANYC is more prestigious? The point makes sense if we were talking about Budokan (Suisei performed there and it wasn't her biggest performance, Budokan has only 15k seats, but her most important one for sure) but we are talking about a con concert. Is it because only Holo performed there before?

>>103130772
do you watch wrestling? If SummerSlam had 60,000 people, but WrestleMania had 50,000 people, which is the biggest PPV and the one you want to main event and wrestle on if you can only pick one?

>>103130913
I don't watch wrestling so I have no clue which of the two is more prestigious.

>>103130880
Yeah.
ANYC has slowly become the top anime convention in north america, taking the top spot away from AX, which had terrible issues with their venus (poor fire safety, poor management overall, etc.)
Then they can claim they performed on the same stage that Holo did.
All of the notoriety in this case is on the stage itself rather than the performance of the concert. (An objective success, but not good enough to where phasefags could put down Mint over it)
Sakana and Mint clearly needed each other for that event. Mint needed Sakana for the stage itself, but Sakana also needed Mint there because he knows Mint's fanbase will travel across the globe in order to show up and support her.

>>103130880
It's because LA is unironically a shithole while still being more expensive than NYC. AX is a crowded fucking mess. ANYC is a crowded fucking mess but at least you're not in LA. Plus California already has a glut of conventions, giving the East Coast a solid con opens up some opportunities.

>>103130880
because hololive said so
cover is all in with new york

>>103126730
Of course they knew. The girls talk to each other. And so what? They see a friend first before they see a "competitor" or "rival", it's a business after all.

>>103130425
>the smallest holo Kiara
In what universe did you get this idea into your head?

>>103124798 (OP)
New concert, Phase karaoke relay, with Shiina, Rie, Panko, Jelly and Eimi.
It will be the last day, Sunday, August 24, at 11:00 in the morning EDT, at the Sakura Stage.

>>103130880
anime nyc has prestigse because of the city itself and now it being established as holoEN's big focus of the year compared to ax where they do nothing there outside of a booth
all of this is relative to conventions and conventions only mind you, so the budokan comp should not really be in the conversation. suisei made her us concert debut at anyc, so that tells you the status of it

>>103131187
>karaoke relay
Not a concert

>>103131334
they are singing songs
it is a concert
not all concerts have to be 3d

>>103131139
Channel. view charts for EN always make me laugh. You got everyone at around 1.5-6m 30 day views, then you hit Mori who is always around 15-22m lmao.

>>103126066
i never see hololive collabing with phase connect

>>103131139
Is that site dead right now? I tried to check it with no luck

>>103132998
https://vt.poi.cat/channel/views
Nope works fine for me

>>103130768
>>103130772
You do know the Phase X Mint concert wasn't small right?

>>103133292
Weird. Maybe a weird regional thing tonight.
>>103133329
Yes.Which is why anons shouldn't be an ass about it.

>>103124957
Coz he knows how to manage a good cashflow

>>103126545
>Mint strong-armed
>Lia reveals she asked if mint wanted to do this
Aight

>>103131187
>concert
>karaoke