>>103129150 (OP)"Yagoo" sorry autocorrect is a B*tch
>>103129150 (OP)Question is - How much of it is true, and how much of it is just a silly dance in front of investors?
But beyond that... ehhh, ok? Japanese Twitch meta is less retarded and Twitch has less stupid (but still stupid) rules than Youtube so it may be easier for them to do certain things there.
we won
unicorns lost
idolfags lost
>>103129150 (OP)Of course. It's even in their IR reports.
Sadly, fps vtubers are just not a market that exists outside of Japan. Doki and maybe Zen are like the only exceptions, but even they mostly do variety, and Doki has far more pull in the EN scene.
If they want any kind of direct line to the western esports pros, they'd likely want to work with the bird, but since they've effectively unperson'd her, I don't see that happening. Not to mention that she'd be brought up in literally any attempt to break into the scene seriously by tourists in like 85% of streams.
I could see them approaching Ironmouse or even Filian in some capacity, though.
>>103129437You've successfully destroyed another hobby with your faggotry. Be sure to give all the women you meet in life their monetary tribute you little cuck.
>>103129437you won what exactly lol?
>>103129509eat shit nigger
you learn your place you subhuman animal
>>103129176I think you should leave.
>>103129562Your favorite hobby is next
>>103129150 (OP)Will be DOA gen in the west and good luck trying to find females that play comp fps
>>103129150 (OP)Well he is not wrong. Unlike Youtube, Twitch is very lax in terms of content, and there is a reason why reaction content thrived in there
The only problem is that Twitch is very inconsistent in terms of ToS and they aren't exactly friendly with VTubers aside from Mousey. But who knows, now that VShojo no longer exists, Holo might as well dominate that website too
>>103129150 (OP)theyre becoming like 2011-2016 Capcom
>>103129475I get expanding their brand but it's pretty much invading multiple layers of territories here like
>EN Vtubing Twitch Audience>EN Vtuber fps Audience>EN Twitch Hololive Fans.Like they will be lucky if they manage to get ccv of 500 consistently. It's a Niche upon Niche upon Niche.
Personally Cover going back to the China Market makes more sense than going to Twitch.
>>103129150 (OP)>โreach a wider audience of people who wouldnโt come across vtubers.โMan, holo is just getting worse.
>>103129150 (OP)Interesting to see the culture clash between the twitch audience and a streamer that has to abide to the hololive burka style of conduct
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>like competitive FPS games
that's like 3 people, right? towa, matsuri, laplus
also some holo already have twitch accounts
>>103129150 (OP)>see a xeet on xitter concernposting about outdated corporate news>go on /vt/>find this threadlike clockwork. nothing ever happens btw.
>>103129150 (OP)The twitch vtuber scene died with vshojo so he must be trying to seize the platform
>>103129562Look at the great white cuck in all his glory, soon to become extinct because they've all become too chickenshit to attempt breeding.
so VSPO? Does Japan still have that many talented 'competitive' girl gamer?
>>103129437>unicorns lost>idolfags losteh, i don't mind the non-unicorn idolfags. if you just like to see more traditional musical/dancing performances and aren't a weird purity chud about it then that's cool :3
>>103129850They might try something like regloss, but maybe with more separation. Something like less idol activities than the main branch and more focus on getting into tournaments.
The question is, do e-sports fans, especially for the FPS genre, like vtubers?
>>103129150 (OP)Why do niggas decide to dislike Twitch while putting Mousey on the pedestal?
>>103129150 (OP)The big question is, will the twitch liver troons be mad or will they embrace idol life?
>>103130582>The question is, do e-sports fans, especially for the FPS genre, like vtubers? Kinda? Doki is honestly breaking a lot of them in. She's become a serious gateway drug over there.
Sure you'll get the occasion "Why is this fucking girl here on the screen?" but most of the time people just join and watch the gameplay or say something like "I like your laugh."
>>103129150 (OP)just don't try to pull another hlzt and we won't have problems
>>103130582Esports watchers are significantly more laid back than you think they are. The largest audiences follow retired former semi-professionals shooting the shit with their buddies in groupchat, with pubstomping randos as background filler.
>>103129150 (OP)Did...did people just completely forget that ERB debuted on Twitch a month ago?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUdYk5Np9nE
This isn't exactly a completely out of nowhere statement or goal shift.
Yes, clip, but I'm not going to go to Twitch and their stupid VODs just for that.
>>103129150 (OP)Can't wait for the holodrones to suddenly like twitch culture.
>>103132920We won't have to like it because we'll overthrow it
>>103129150 (OP)They are already on Twitch. He's describing something that's been the norm for a long time, and as usual he's hyperoptimistic about it because he hates that Hololive is seen as the idol vtuber company and wants them to be a co-ed fuckfest.
>>103129150 (OP)are they trying to cannibalize vspo? maybe having some vspo hololive crosstournaments would be fun though.
>>103130582google vspo, and you'll find out
>>103129150 (OP)>Ame left because she didn't get permission for her stuff.>Now Ame's gone, they do what Ame wanted, including global VR chat & FPS dedicated chubas.What the fuck does Yagoo mean by this?
>twitch
>gaming audience
does Yagoo think its still year 2011? Also how is VSPO! EN even doing? It seems like nobody talks about them anymore outside of their split.
>>103135298We've always known everyone who graduated did so because they were either retarded or had ulterior motives. Only delusional simps believed that Yagoo was aware of some list of items that if done, the girls would stay.
>>103133165>>103135371>cannibalize vspovspo EN is fucking dead.
They had their chance and they blew it.
Literally all they had to do was pay Doki to shill them or hook them up with esports pros to give them an actual audience, but instead they didn't join Doki's huge esports event (while vspoJP did) and pal around with Elira and co.
>>103135371Does VSPO! EN even stream on Twitch?
>>103135847yeah no vspo EN is pretty dead but i was hoping for them to do something on the jp side, i also dont think that getting a new hololive en esports generation would be a great investment
>>103135298>What the fuck does Yagoo mean by this?It means he's a reactionary, not a revolutionary
>>103136166It's beginning to feel like an all out war
>>103129150 (OP)Am I going retarded or could they not already stream on Twitch if they wanted to?
>>103129150 (OP)None of this will matter when they are in Japan for half the year and canโt stream, doing endless recordings for things that may not see the light of day, or their random ass meetings. With Twitch, you have to stream everyday with a large audience to get in favor of the algo.
>>103129150 (OP)Kinda makes sense to branch out of YouTube just in case but I wonder if this replaces or reallocates efforts into china.
Ib4 they debut someone on every platform that streams. Can't wait for my hololive AM radio show.
>>103129150 (OP)>>103129176the fucking level of phoneposter newfags.
>>103136033yes, arya and remia dual most of time while the rest make guerilla streams
>>103129150 (OP)Too little too late. Aiming to expand their audience via getting on Twitch is a mistake for them. They already have an iron grip on YouTube views, they should just maintain this instead of trying to diversify. The indie scene on Twitch in the west are all totally different from the vibe Hololive purist fags and unicorns want and even collab'ing with them in any infrequent capacity would render the board unusable with an insufferable amount of bait threads and tribal drama fuckery. The boat has sailed. This is Yagoo trying to convince people they have a robust plan for further expansion when, in reality, they've already let go of their opportunities for targeting this market years ago. Indies in EN will gracious accommodate Hololive and support them, of course. But the twitch side is populated with a different breed of fans. I do not expect fans of Neuro, Bao, Shylily, CyYu, Amalee, Zentreya, Ironmouse, and all to also share Twitch mindshare with the Holo talents. It's just not feasible.
Also the platforms sucks so much fucking ass it needs to go under. Twitch needs to go so something or someone can step up to be better.
>>103138923Look at the paragraph above selected one.
>>103136527Pls understand
They have to spend months not streaming to prepare for expo and fes because they just do.
Too late, also losing aqua is a huge blow when she was the only holo who has the pure competitive games viewers.
>>103129475>FPS>WomenWe've been over this so many times. Until there's an all-women E-Sports team that ISN'T a fucking joke getting camped 0:20 by male teams there's really no audience to find here. FPS viewers want to watch pros. The whole genre builds up on competitive gameplay.
The reason Doki is successful at all is because she's a variety streamer. Even the Holomems that play FPS get next to no views. This is a stigma Vtubing won't beat anytime soon.
>>103140631I will not watch league, TFT, or apex
>>103129381Twitch is stupidly Anti-Vtuber though.
>>103135298Ame wanted to do things
Hololive wants to announce that it has plans
>>103129150 (OP)Towa, La+, Ayame and onion were already streaming on twitch playing fps slop. Hell even Miko was doing watchalong before amazon closed that service. I read this as in they want to make a vspo style gen. vspo mostly and prob only streams on yt
>>103129150 (OP)I mean FPS chuubas actually grow on twitch powered by reactslop
>>103129150 (OP)>gamesGood in ready for some JRPG, otaku adjacent, and Nintendo games
>Competitive FPSNever mind. They will NEVER fucking learn. Esports slop is BORING BORING BORING BORING BORING BORING!!!!!
The boys play too much FPS and moba trash. Let's also not forget how the boys also fucking mogged the girls in comp FPS.
>>103129150 (OP)Hololive is going to destroy itself. Youtube is superior.
>>103130582They probably think all vtubers are men with voice changers even in 2025 so no
>>103144619youtube is about to go to the shitter in 9 days with the AI verification where if it can't verify you, you have to send in your ID as proof of age
>>103129150 (OP)Unironically the only good post i saw in the retweet on this interview was speculation about this move being because of the YouTube AI.
The very presence of that AI could fuck up a lot of creators to the point where it actually makes twitch better.
>>103145023Holo can't compete against anyone who can, you know, play games.
>>103129150 (OP)>Competitive fps Lol lmao. He does realize outside of JP unless there's a tourney no one cares about FPS slop right?
>>103144578Companies keep falling the Comp Slop genre trap. Esports fags have unironically killed the FPS shooter genre because they literally are incapable of playing something unless it's got a ranked ladder and competitive scene
>>103130773this is clearly about new gen or unit.
>>103144707and you think twitch wont do ID checks either? please
>>103130773Yes yes we know you're a man who is scared of other men
>>103129150 (OP)Great! Then I can watch 5 consecutive ads every 10 minutes
>>103129150 (OP)>popular US games like competitive FPSGura/Saba pretty much never plays FPS games and she's popular. Didn't mumei, ame and la+ all do shitty ccvs when they spammed fps games?
>>103129381>and Twitch has less stupid rulesdid you miss the newest one where you HAVE TO chat or you are considered a bot and not even counted anywhere, even if you're a paid sub?
>>103147125she's popular with low t pedophiles, they hate fps games
>>103147872If you can't chat then don't watch
>>103147872honestly thats a good rule to have. real fans don't lurk
>>103148392not unless you can cure the 'tism
>>103145252And it sucks since most people who play games can't really entertain. Because they're busy practicing games.
>>103129927>>103130346Imagine being such a gooner you think HoloEN is too pure.
>brown paggot keeping his holoanti thread alive this whole time by bumping it on his own
>niggerbrown jannies let it stay up
yikes
meanwhile another phase BF yab is being actively deleted near instantly because of course it is
>>103129562You are an unwelcomed andy around here.
>muh women playing fps
What if this is a prelude to a new gen of Stars?
>>103155925Again, it'd flop even harder and probably would somehow end up behind the pathetic vspoen
>>103129150 (OP)I love it when unicorns can't even spell the name of the CEO of the company they doompost about correctly
I personally think hololive should expand its scope dramatically. Bring in gymnasts, acrobats, standup comedians, writers, true professional level singers, actors, athletes, politicians.
I know this sounds crazy, but imagine bringing in famous people and give them a model and let them use it for a special showcase event, not full time members but honorary members similar to how universities give honorary degrees to commencement speakers.
Call it HoloCelebs. Bring in people like Taylor Swift, Charles Barkley, Selene Gomez, Elon Musk, Billie Eilish, AOC, Eilene Gu, Pedro Pascal, Donald Trump, Kendrick Lamar, Stephen Curry, Shohei Ohtani, etc. Let them come in for a day or two and interact and have fun with holomembers, promote their projects, you know akin to Saturday night live or late night talk shows, give a performance of their talents with a prepared 3d model. This would vault Hololive into the mainstream and bring in lots of eyes and money
>>103147935GMS! and shalom holoID enjoyer
>>103158153They kinda did this in reverse with Pekora in Death Stranding 2
>>103158153Problem is they'd clog up the already clogged up 3D studio to do that.
>>103162984More like
>see an untapped market now that their only major player dissolvedWho knows if they'll approach it the same way, but I doubt it.
They'll make plenty of brand new mistakes instead, like expecting fps viewers to watch anime girls.
>>103158153If all you care about is seeing Holo get big, this is great. I for one would sooner stop watching alltogether than keep watching into an era like that. We're already getting pelted like crazy with merch lately, I don't need it to be more corporatized and merchandised.
They want to steal VSPO EN's pie.
>>103150696I refuse to give any money to Amazon out of principle. Fuck Bezos. I don't even shop at Whole Foods.
>>103168333what pie? they're oliver twist at this point.