Thread 103138412 - /vt/ [Archived: 16 hours ago]

Anonymous
8/5/2025, 1:40:39 PM No.103138412
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Yagoo says that Hololive will "look toward having more talent that can play games that are popular in the US," like competitive FPS games.

The goal, as I understand it, is to have Hololive vtubers cultivate an audience tied to specific genres or games like any other steamer on Twitch and to let that lead to sponsorships and collabs in the future.

source:
https://www.pcgamer.com/gaming-industry/death-stranding-2s-vtuber-cameo-is-only-the-beginning-of-more-anime-girls-appearing-in-your-favorite-games-hololive-ceo-says/
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 1:42:36 PM No.103138456
>>103138412 (OP)
Hardly insane to want a few genre freaks in a corpo full of generalists. Are there any particularly serious FPS enjoyers in Holo post-Ame?
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 1:49:38 PM No.103138592
Same thread every day until people react the way anon wants them
Anonymous
8/5/2025, 1:52:38 PM No.103138657
>>103138412 (OP)
ok
Anonymous
8/5/2025, 1:59:31 PM No.103138780
>>103138412 (OP)
So gamers 2.0? I hope they can compete with how good Okayu, Fubuki and the rest are
Anonymous
8/5/2025, 2:00:12 PM No.103138791
They want actual gamers but don't realize NA women are awful at games
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 2:00:31 PM No.103138805
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>>103138412 (OP)
>Look inside hololive community
>Literally 0 (zero) people asking them to play competitive FPS
Who wants to watch that shit? How about getting perm for better games? Fucking retarded japs
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 2:14:59 PM No.103139082
>>103138805
shareholders want that esports money, anon
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 2:16:33 PM No.103139117
It’s time to draft Coyote
Anonymous
8/5/2025, 2:51:27 PM No.103139841
>>103138456
>post-Ame
just Laplus
Anonymous
8/5/2025, 2:53:31 PM No.103139876
>>103138412 (OP)
They better hurry before VSPO EN corners that market (lol)
Anonymous
8/5/2025, 2:54:09 PM No.103139889
>>103139082
What money? all their money are from oil arabs and shady gambling websites
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 2:55:22 PM No.103139912
>>103138805
Yagoo is a fucking retard if that isn’t obvious enough. The only smart thing he’s done is realize that keeping the girls happy means more money and he’s not even that good at that.
Anonymous
8/5/2025, 3:00:48 PM No.103140029
>>103138412 (OP)
No Japanese Corpo understands the Western market and has failed to make any inroads outside of the weeb community
Anonymous
8/5/2025, 3:07:07 PM No.103140154
>lost aqua
fuck you
Anonymous
8/5/2025, 3:11:50 PM No.103140248
>>103139889
They don't care. They see CS tournaments have high prize pools.
Anonymous
8/5/2025, 3:18:15 PM No.103140360
>>103138412 (OP)
>Games
Good
>Competitive FPS
(SCREAMING)
Anonymous
8/5/2025, 3:20:10 PM No.103140387
>>103139082
>shareholders want that esports money
they already did with HLZNTL
guess where that went?
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 3:32:07 PM No.103140640
>>103140387
Sideways
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 3:43:03 PM No.103140861
>>103138805
>>Look inside hololive community
>>Literally 0 (zero) people asking them to play competitive FPS
That's kind of the logic. It's a retarded idea , don't get me wrong, but there's an audience for fpshits and as hololive currently stands, they don't grab that audience. A basically incompatible audience, but an audience.
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 3:49:49 PM No.103140997
>>103140861
Anon, the real quotes are in ''x'' format, they never said FPS, the idiot writting the article did.
Anonymous
8/5/2025, 4:00:12 PM No.103141198
>>103138805
Did you not know that there are CCs that focus specifically on a particular game or genre?
Anonymous
8/5/2025, 4:44:00 PM No.103142162
>>103138805
That's the point, they want new audiences. It's not a good idea, but they need growth, growth, growth. Like every public company.
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 4:46:32 PM No.103142214
>>103138412 (OP)
Sounds like HLZNTL 2, except not plagued by the perception that western/FPS audiences don't mind male/female vtuber collabs which was prevalent in the post-Luxiem era.
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 4:48:09 PM No.103142245
>>103142214
So then why use the Hololive branding? They may as well call it discount VESPO EN
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 4:55:14 PM No.103142402
>>103142162
spoke like a true shareholder, bravo
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 5:01:04 PM No.103142532
>>103142245
Discount Nijisanji, discount Idol-bu, discount VSPO. Seems to follow the pattern just fine.
Anonymous
8/5/2025, 7:03:24 PM No.103145646
>We built up our fan base mainly on YouTube up to this point, but as we want to hit a gaming audience, it's very likely that we will focus more on Twitch in the future
No, no, fuck off yagoo, do not.
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 7:05:41 PM No.103145731
Females don't sweatlord competitive video games. The best you'll get is Towa-level skilled at the most and she's pretty average.
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 7:07:59 PM No.103145785
>>103142402
What the fuck makes you think that this is presented as something good, retard?
Anonymous
8/5/2025, 7:08:50 PM No.103145805
>>103140640
a deserved (you) for my sensible kekle
Anonymous
8/5/2025, 7:13:30 PM No.103145923
ah yes, abandon your unique selling point and market you dominate to chase the most crowded competitive market full of people in ingrained positions who hate vtubers
Very smart business
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 7:13:30 PM No.103145924
>>103145646
That wasn't what he said
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 7:15:26 PM No.103145973
>>103145924
I'd like to hope not, but given that was a direct quote in the article posted, it's one more source than you have given denying it.
Anonymous
8/5/2025, 7:15:41 PM No.103145983
>>103138412 (OP)
>want to hire vtubers that are more like western flesh whores and less like japanese vtubers
Why? The one thing your audience wants is cute japanese anime girls but in english so they don't have to wait for subtitles
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 7:25:36 PM No.103146260
>>103145923
What do you mean by 'abandone'? What else could happen other than Yagoo creating a new unit like Dev_Is and those new girls focusing on a game (it doesn't need to be an FPS)? mtfk really strecht this to "yagoo is forcing everyone to play more fps and stream on twitch"
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 7:26:36 PM No.103146287
>>103145983
well they have that alr, what is the point of hiring more?
Anonymous
8/5/2025, 7:33:12 PM No.103146463
>>103146260
>newtourist doesnt even know about HLZNTL
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 7:34:11 PM No.103146487
>>103138412 (OP)
Chasing Doki?
Hope it does not turn out as well as chasing Luxiem.
Anonymous
8/5/2025, 7:51:27 PM No.103147031
>>103146463
>retard who don't even know hololive JP and EN alr stream on twitch sometime
And I don't even know what you're trying to imply with HLZNTL. For whatever it's worth, HLZNTL is solid proof that they won't even consider coerce the girl let alone force
Anonymous
8/5/2025, 7:51:31 PM No.103147032
>>103138805
>Literally 0 (zero) people asking them to play competitive FPS
That's the point. They maxed out growth in the traditional vtubing space, so they need to grow into a market they don't cover right now.
Anonymous
8/5/2025, 8:56:59 PM No.103148958
>>103138412 (OP)
>wanting to chase western fps
>with women
>with vtubers
>while blacklisting Doki who personally knows like 90% of all esports players

Yeah I dunno about that one, chief.
Anonymous
8/5/2025, 9:02:20 PM No.103149127
>>103138412 (OP)
>wanting to chase western fps
>with women
>with vtubers
>while blacklisting Doki who personally knows like 90% of all esports players outside of japan and would be an instant connection to all of them at once

Yeah I dunno about that one, chief. That's one hell of a hurdle.
They can try, I guess.
Anonymous
8/5/2025, 9:03:42 PM No.103149188
>>103142214
Western FPS viewers don't like watching women in general unless their tits are on screen.
A vtuber won't catch on unless they're already extremely visible, IE regularly appearing with other male esports pros.
Anonymous
8/5/2025, 9:12:13 PM No.103149471
After the shit all the drones have been screeching all weekend about ERB and Nerissa why the fuck would they think allowing one of their girls into the most non unicorn friendly scene would work out for them? Especially when pariah Doki and Stars regularly get spots in the tourneys and collabs. Are they gonna have weird conditions where they try to force the organizer to keep them apart?
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 9:48:00 PM No.103150551
>>103149471
make the new branch like dev_is? does that not even cross your mind? why you think hololive ever force the girl to do anything?
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 9:58:11 PM No.103150835
>>103150551
Regloss is bound by the same shit as JP.
Even ID is forbidden from interacting with Doki publicly.
It's going to be a gigantic elephant in the room, especially if Doki starts regularly hosting things. Since they'll be effectively starting from 0 on a new platform, any time a girl goes live in marvel rivals/apex/cs/etc and has a slot on the team, you'll get tourists asking if she plays with doki or dooby. Unless both of their names get filtered, in which case people will ask why.
Anonymous
8/5/2025, 10:13:53 PM No.103151267
They cannot compete with VSPO and should not even consider directly competing in that scene. Those FPS communities embrace Hololive because the girls who interact with them push themselves out of pre established comfort zones like Aki, Matsuri, Towa, Laplus, Ayame and they have massive respect for content + skill like Aqua & Botan
If you have a branch designed to steal their thunder they are going to be crushed hard by experience and division.
It best be casual gaming branch number 2.
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 10:16:35 PM No.103151353
>>103151267
They absolutely can in EN. vspoen is a wet fart that nobody knows about.
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 10:37:17 PM No.103151970
>>103151353
You are going to have the worst EN branch in the vtubing scene considering you place your girls in an ivory tower away from male interaction.
Holofans will implode you are nothing like your JP counterparts just look at how you all handled Nimi
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 10:45:01 PM No.103152193
>>103151970
I just said they'll eclipse vspoen. I said nothing about them actually being successful.
I don't know what boogeyman you think I am, but without either serious shilling from western pros or regular direct interactions with people like Dokibird, they WILL be dead on arrival. (but still bigger than vspoen)

The western fps market is hostile to women. Even more if they don't show their tits. Even more if they're just cartoons. Without people being forced to watch them via collabs, nobody will give them a chance.
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 10:50:57 PM No.103152350
>>103138412 (OP)
If hololive pulls out a girl who plays deadlock i will watch
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 10:52:02 PM No.103152377
>>103138805
Its about bringing in people who aren't already there, dumbass. Its called growth.
Anonymous
8/5/2025, 10:52:19 PM No.103152382
this is nuts
bad news for idolfags
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 10:52:33 PM No.103152390
EN5 will have a fps holo, a mmo holo, and I don't know zoomers like to watch play.
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 10:53:06 PM No.103152402
>>103152193
just have the vtubers toggle and ragebait people, i'd watch
Anonymous
8/5/2025, 10:56:45 PM No.103152498
EN 5 CONFIRMED
Anonymous
8/5/2025, 10:57:46 PM No.103152525
>>103138791
It's a sexual adaptation to pretend to like videogames because their actual brothers or boyfriends do, then use this to monkeybranch to richer men who may also like bideogames (all men like bideogames it's like that "loli with rock cds and beer" meme but real).
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 11:02:23 PM No.103152649
>>103152350
is that out of beta yet?
Anonymous
8/5/2025, 11:02:51 PM No.103152660
>>103152382
If streams, song numbers and concert sales, are to go by the western market is all but tapped on the idol side. I hate being a numberfag but theres just too little growth the past year despite all the effort to bring in new viewers. Even holo talents will have to resort to fighting each other for market share eventually.

The only real blip that was shown was Doki getting near 5 view during her quick stint on twitch playing rivals.
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 11:03:55 PM No.103152690
>>103152525
????
Wait til this nerd finds out about sports.
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 11:07:11 PM No.103152798
>>103152690
Women who are into sports are already married to men who are into sports, it's similar but not the same.
Anonymous
8/5/2025, 11:25:32 PM No.103153363
>>103138805
I think that's the point, to try and bring in new viewers. They get nothing from appealing to already existing viewers, you can still only watch so much content
Anonymous
8/5/2025, 11:47:33 PM No.103154112
>>103152660
Even in later streams she settled down to 3-5k before raids get factored in.
And nearly all of the fans on the twitch side are exclusive to that side or complete tourists.
Her youtube subs grow noticeably any time she goes on twitch.
If I had a shot for every time a greyname said, "Whoa I like your laugh" or "How is she having so much fun playing this game?" forget liver disease, I'd fucking drown first.
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 12:15:10 AM No.103155043
>>103145731
>worse than akwa at apex
>slower than akwa at SF6 despite having a coach
it's unfortunate that towa is hard capped
Replies: >>103169066
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 12:17:21 AM No.103155101
>>103138805
i look forward to which ever vtuber hololive puts forth as the FPS chuuba getting absolutely murdered in comp play and the vtubers unicorns crying about like like the time holo did da bois vs girls and the boys low diffed the girls
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 1:03:23 AM No.103156958
>>103152390
But /vt/ told me mmos are debuff games?
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 1:14:24 AM No.103157448
>>103156958
In this case, /vt/ is right.
When vtubers go on an mmo binge, it completely tanks their channel. I remember a NijiJP intentionally did that when she didn't like how big she was growing. She played a mmo for like 3 months straight.

The rare time it works is it working because it's the only thing on the channel.
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 2:34:11 AM No.103160696
>>103152350
Honestly? Same.
I'll take that over apex/overwatch/valorant.
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 3:45:32 AM No.103163265
>>103156958
MMOs are incredibly boring even for zatsu, apart from maybe some nostalgia streams where you go through an old MMO for just one stream
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 3:48:11 AM No.103163354
might aswell get league streamers and just kill your growth entirely
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 3:49:12 AM No.103163386
>>103163354
>might aswell get league streamers
They already hired Gigi.
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 4:07:04 AM No.103164012
From what HLZNTL was about I can guess why Cover wants a group of esport, gamer forcus girls who can play game good enough to watch for your average gamer audience
So after that they will do inside tournament regular with those girls and get sponsor, ads and many other promotion thing from other companies like other JP streamer group like Shaka and Kasen are doing, they probably don't want to give a piece of profit to outside party like what happened with Botan's tounament when there's not enough hololive girl to fill the slot so they need to invite outsiders
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 4:09:12 AM No.103164109
>>103138412 (OP)
i just want these bitches to play some classic playstation
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 4:11:15 AM No.103164205
>>103138805
it was a shareholder question, hope yagoo response was corporate speak
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 4:12:16 AM No.103164242
>>103152690
are those women watching women sports?
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 4:12:19 AM No.103164244
>>103164012
>So after that they will do inside tournament regular with those girls and get sponsor, ads and many other promotion thing from other companies like other JP streamer group like Shaka and Kasen are doing, they probably don't want to give a piece of profit to outside party like what happened with Botan's tounament when there's not enough hololive girl to fill the slot so they need to invite outsiders
That is NEVER happening. Especially not outside of Japan.
They're not going to find girls good enough to compete, and anyone who might fit into that is not interested in vtubers and likely are shit entertainers.
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 6:16:57 AM No.103169066
>>103155043
>a "coach"
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 6:30:23 AM No.103169486
>>103164244
This is a good point, its hard enough to find a male fleshtuber who is good enough at videogames AND be charismatic enough to hold an audience (Most bigger "e-sports" streamers are either one or the other. Good enough for top placements at tourneys OR funny enough where people just watch him fuck around in ranked) finding a woman who can do both, because they will need to be both to survive in Hololive right now, is like finding and capturing Sasquatch.
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 7:43:26 AM No.103171694
uhh can they get someone like Raden instead? find some girl who likes 'something' to the point of being seen as an autistic..
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 7:51:55 AM No.103171879
>>103138412 (OP)
I want a holo that plays mostly PS1 and PS2 shit.
So far, the hags mostly play NES and SNES stuff.
Thank goodness for Patra, I guess, but I want a holo like that gameswise, Yagoo
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 8:27:06 AM No.103172706
>>103138412 (OP)
If they want an FPS streamer, why don't they just hire Dokibird?
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 8:43:59 AM No.103173036
>>103172706
The only way they're nabbing doki/mint/mouse/whatever is if they make some kind of affiliate program or something where they kinda sorta rep holo in exchange for not having any of the restrictions.

Realistically it's probably a legal nightmare and would never happen. It'd also get really dicey if Doki collabs with ex-holos.

Also there's the whole she's blacklisted thing