>Lies about the merch being legitimate
>No refunds dayo~
Wat do?

charge back is a refund

>>103140291
>>103112580
>>103137928
>Gets paid $0.00 to make ex VSJ anti threads
>No funds Dayo~

>>103142161
Are you projecting because Vshojo is dead and pays you exactly $0.00 now? kek

>>103141844 (OP)
vshojo isnt going to pay you little bro

>literally told people to issue ask their bank/payment processor for a chargeback

Melody lied. Haruka lied. Zen was a man.

>>103141844 (OP)
Does it upset you in any way some people are actually paid to do what you do for everyday for free
Niji shills are paid, but also niji antis. Vshojos had their own shills but who knows if someone else also had someone in the payroll to shit on them too
Probably the same for everyone else.
Leaks show people are being effect paid for making these bait posts and meanwhile you get nothing out of this
Honest question

>>103141844 (OP)
Is she actually smart enough to scam people?

>>103143495
Wonder how long is the Wait time of the last sold and deliver item?
3 months?
6 months?
1 year?
We need data on that.

>Phase scams people with merch
>silence
>Resells the merch at cons at twice the price
>silence
>A vtuber gets fucked over by her corpo and never pays her for her own merch sales
>SCAMMER SCAMMER CANCEL HER REEEEEE

>>103153763
little bro is so deep into basement that he doesn't know basic bank transaction.

>>103155362
keep deflecting, bro

>>103143495
>oh sure, go file that chargeback way after the deadline
>i'm sure they'll totally make an exception just for you, bro

>>103160892
Most banks will honor the chargebacks for this. If not, you have a REALLY shitty bank. Mine had the chargeback approved and money in my account in a few hours. They're required allow 60 days in the US, most are 120, "premium" cards will go even longer than that. They'll look at the case no matter what if you actually contract them and you have a slam dunk reason.

>>103160892
Banks honor chargebacks even after a couple years if shit hasn't been delivered or there's no chance you'll get it. Banks care more about you than the company going bankrupt, it's one of the few times they have your back.

>>103161525
C1, Amex, and Chase have been taking the chargebacks with same day approvals for this online without even needing to call in. They probably have "vshojo" transactions earmarked at this point.

>>103141844 (OP)
Contact the bank and stop posting henya...

Up until the Bunny Merch fans still were getting their merch... just slowly. Vshojo used the "we're switching merch providers, please bare with us it'll get better" at he beginning of this year as a smokescreen before the rug pull. As far as the talents knew Vshojo was honoring their obligations to the fans, they were just slipping on paying the talents themselves.

Talents finding out Vshojo wasn't meeting their obligations to other people (artists, fans, charities, etc) is what caused this blowup.

>>103152575
It's not very hard when her fans are fucking dumb

So how much money did Gunrun promise the OP for making these threads? Or was it Mowtendoo?

>>103155362
>what about phase
0.6 living rent free

>>103150254
>this is a man
Yeah anon, look at all the macho testosterone zen oozes all the time.

>>103165069
>I'm a very emotional person who tends to just jump at times
Just like Emiya Shirou doing high jumps after kiritsugu died.

>>103142088
chargeback is not a refund, you mongoloid

>>103166471
If your going to be that pedantic it's out of her ability to "refund" it as she was never paid for it either, there's nothing to "refund" on her end. VShojo is the only entity that could refund it as they are the ones that accepted payment. A chargeback is the only option. It's a refund you're just asking a different place to force the refund it.

>>103155362
damn man it sounds like you should be the change you want to see

>>103165027
Cope

>>103166900
Don’t pretend that Henya and the other members have no responsibility here. They were the ones promoting the products and directly benefited from Vshojo’s spending on publicity and marketing. So why are they backing away now? There's a serious lack of transparency. How can we trust that we’re not being misled again when they claim they didn’t earn anything from this?

>>103172959
>directly benefited from Vshojo’s spending on publicity and marketing
How when they were never paid? Would you want to get paid in twitter likes?

>>103160545
no one's deflecting more than poorfag 4channers clutching their pearls over other people's money, that's some advanced stage cuckoldry

>>103161846
She needs something else to do while the bank keeps her on hold

>>103150254
Yes.
Maybe.
No.

I like how the bait threads didn’t start until Henya said something, when she wasn’t even the second one to announce this.

>>103141844 (OP)
You have to do a chargeback within 60 days of the purchase, you are not allowed to do a chargeback after 60+ days, so how long has this merch been released?

>>103172959
There was no benefit in Talents helping the company steal from themselves. Remember none of them have been paid for any of the sale of goods either. All of Henya's merch up to the Bunny stuff has shipped. I've gotten everything I ever ordered from Vshojo until now, it was just slow as shit. Up until Mouses video there was nothing that pointed to current merch orders not being completed, there was no way talent could have known this last round of merch wasn't going to be fulfilled for fans.
>muh transparency
Transparency? The talents were scammed too, the transparency was them all dropping Vshojo in the same day and explicitly making statements about it. For a while each one just thought VShojo was kicking the can or missed a payment and "sorry we'll get it soon" Or from what previous talent is saying guilting them into "taking one for the team." They also make enough from subs/bits/etc that was outside of Vshojo's control that it didn't effect their day to day so they just let it ride. Transparency *now* depends on what their lawyers tell them they can say as I imagine each of them is try to buttfuck anything that's left of the company.
>Why now?
Because it became clear shit wasn't going to be delivered anymore when Mouse blew up the fact VShojo was insolvent (Charity, etc). It's like how when someone gets fingered as a sexual predator a bunch of people always come out at once, "Oh shit they did this to me too, I thought I was the only one." Work culture and NDAs browbeat people into not talking about that stuff too, hell I had a kid a work once finally break down and ask why he hadn't gotten his last three paychecks, there was some error with the automated payroll, and he didn't say anything for over a month because of the stigma around talking about it. I had to talk to payroll for him because they were so off put by it. He was the only one effected and let it run that long to not make trouble.

I bought merch, I was affected, I got my chargeback approved in less than two hours after contacting my bank though their online automated dispute center. People's hot take that the talents where in on scamming themselves is fucking wild man. If they were in on it, and telling people to do chargebacks, they're looking at fraud charges themselves. The only one I'm curious about actually knowing anything at this point is Mel.

>>103173692
because catalog freaks are the same exact people as twitter freaks
they legitimately do not know that things happen until someone posts it on twitter

Can you do a chargeback if the company is bankrupt? Asking for a friend.

>>103173727
People not knowing about chargebacks is wild. 60 days is the *minimum* banks are required to honor chargebacks in the US. A lot are 120 days or more. The big one, or "premium" cards don't care, you can request a chargeback literally any time you want. Capital One, Amex, and Chase are all honoring everyone who's tried so far, to the point they probably have "vshojo" transactions earmarked for chargebacks.

Vshojo has X (normally 45 days) to respond. They won't and you'll win by default.

>>103173765
Yes, it's actually an option in the drop down menu on most of the online dispute centers.

>>103173765
A chargeback with your credit card company? Yes.

>>103150254
>Haruka lied
What did the fat autistic canadian lie about?

>>103173692
Nobody really watches Vshojo, to be fair. Also, it's pretty suspicious that you're defending the scammers, especially after Veibae revealed that Vshojo hires people to shill for them here.

>>103173816
>>103173819
Okay thanks

>>103173727
The scam has been happening well before the chargeback window expired. Pushing the responsibility onto paying customers instead of handling it themselves is incredibly dishonest. And if someone tries to go through their bank, how are they even supposed to prove it was a scam? There hasn’t been any effort to file a formal complaint or take legal action. The whole situation lacks transparency.

>>103173918
>Pushing the responsibility onto paying customers instead of handling it themselves is incredibly dishonest.
What do you suggest they do? The talents themselves have no access to the order details, so they can't refund money themselves when they don't know who it even needs to be refunded to.

So who's getting the profit from here?
Zen? Or Justin?

>>103173918
The chargeback window has not expired, you just fucking contact your bank. Say you purchased goods and didn't receive them. They have the info of the place that posted the charge and they have to prove they provided the goods. They won't even get to your case, you'll get it by default. 99% of people could have their money back tomorrow if they wanted to. Most big banks appear to be aware of the issue and are approving the chargeback before even waiting for a reply.

You won't see any effort for "legal action" because you're first step would be to file a chargeback and be denied the chargeback to be able to claim damages. No one who files for a chargeback right now is going to have any damages.

>>103174027
JP Vshojo CEO: "Any kson merch sales from outside of Vshojo production (like Good Smile?) should go straight to her."
So Zen will be getting the money, I think.

>>103174027
So, is this actually scam-free merch this time?

>>103173845
Imagine believing a grifter whore like Vei of all people.

>>103174274
>still defending the pieces of shit in vshojo

>>103174301
Defending? VShoujo can rot. Vei is just a whore trying to get some extra pity by talking shit. Nobody just minds it cause its made up shit among actual shit.

>>103174416
>yeah vshojo is bad but this BITCH that talked shit about and exposed vshojo is worse! Attack her instead!
Whom are you trying to fool here?

>>103155362
>implying vshojo and phase aren't literally the same cancer
lmao

>>103141844 (OP)
It's jailtime, gunrun

>>103174416
Oh fucking please, Vei has correct every fucking time, your blatant seething is obvious