why is /vt/ so influential in vtubing?

>>103160158 (OP)
anonymous posting has its drawbacks but its the only place where you will get actual real feedback. discerning real feedback from the shitposting is the hard part.

if you're not a yes-man you'll get banned/downvoted/ratio'd anywhere else.

>>103160158 (OP)
>>103160510
sippy bippy.
whatever you want to blame, vtubing has a culture of comical positivity. discords are worthless, doubly so if they're corpo
reddit isn't any better, twitter is too broad, and everything more niche than /here/ is too small to be useful
it's not that this place is that influential, its that everywhere else sucks worse or is useless for getting anything but simp slobber

>>103160727
>>103160510
simps are actually retarded and pathetic subhumans
they think constant praise is good when in reality it just holds the vtuber back
criticism from wise men is always better than compliments from fools
no wonder so many vtubers despise simps irl

>>103160158 (OP)
there are definitely downsides, but open discussion has value.

>>103160510
>>103160727
>>103161166
Please be less obvious

>>103160158 (OP)
>new tab displays most visited websites
Not only was she /here/ she was here REGULARLY

>>103161386
I'm only this >>103160727 post. it's just the nature of the industry atm
>>103161166
>criticism from wise men
talking about /vt/ is fucking CRAZY lmfao
its literally just not an environment where worship is the only acceptable means of communication

>>103160158 (OP)
>is
was

>>103160158 (OP)
Has anyone figured out the full twitter link?

>>103160158 (OP)
This is the only place where you can openly trash talk vtubers without backlash, and they can’t contain their morbid curiosity to hear honest unfiltered opinions of them.

>>103161626
it is when compared to typical yt/twitch chat

/vt/ is just perpetual seething over Holostars existence.
Holostars alone breaks the BIG STRONG UBERMENSCH persona that most anons here have
But sure cry about gachikoi some more

>>103161687
>unfiltered
correct
>honest
lolno
its literally the fucking disclaimer on the website. anything from here that you believe, you do so at your own risk
maybe its a genuine insight from a lurker who's watched ALL of your streams and only speaks when they feel they need to
or
maybe its some shit a NEET made up to fuck with you, and it happens to stick. same place, same odds

Counterpoint: Holostars is the Exodia to the Unicorns' Blue Eyes Ultimate Dragon

>>103161953
did this clanker malfunction and post in the wrong thread or something

>>103162371
It's true. People here act all big and mighty but then become gossipy women over Holostars' existence

>>103161989
Even so, it’s still more genuine than the curated safe remarks made on other sites.

>>103160158 (OP)
Unfortunately for most literal who chuubas, this hell hole is the top 3 results when they're ego-searching
And since this place is 'anonymous' so there's no harm on shitting on another chuuba while they're browsing

>>103160158 (OP)
Simple
Because, despite the massive amount of bullshit, you can find real opinions here
Every other place is a hugbox
You can find that on 8 too, but your typical normie won't know about it

>>103160158 (OP)
becasue vtubing is a degen hobby and /vt/ is where the degens congregate.

>>103162882
You CAN, but you have to wade through shit to find it.
And what you find likely isn't that.

>>103160158 (OP)
In my eyes, if someone wants to talk about EN vtubing, there's only 3 places to do it: twitter, reddit, and /vt/. Although there's decent amount of overlap, I think it's important to recognize that each social space has its unique population and preferences. So, naturally, if you want to get a well-rounded perspective on what the fandom as a whole thinks about something, you're going to have to visit all 3 enclaves.
There's other big reasons like laughing at schizos, ease of participation, or lowest barrier to entry, but the above is something I don't really seen brought up a lot. Also, I'm aware that vtuber forums and Discord servers exists, but they're too small or terrible for having discussions, respectively, to be influential in the wider cultural zeitgeist.

>>103160158 (OP)
Its not, at all. Your example comes from a rotten, dying branch of a vtuber company, which speaks for itself.

>>103160369
>the only place where you will get actual real feedback
except for the baiters, the sisters and the antis right? lmao

>>103160158 (OP)
I'm not sure if influential is the right word, but this is one of the few places that isn't a disgusting hugbox where if you don't agree with the hivemind, you're shunned and treated like a plague victim.

Far too many chuubas only get their feedback from youtube cucks that endlessly glaze them, or xitter troons that witch hunt anyone threatening their cum-stained hugbox.

/vt/ is like, the only place you can give actual honest feedback and not have some non-stream watching faggot call you an incel (which still happens, but they don't belong here)

>>103161640
tower is an irrelevant hugbox

>>103164227
/vt/ is full of holodrones, i'd estimate about 70% of the board. what are you talking about?

>>103164048
I guess if you only read things from the catalog and are so stupid you take everything posted at face value, you’re right.

>>103160158 (OP)
it's the only place vtubers can engage in vtuber discussion without fear of getting found out. people can guess it's you, but nothing can be proven and nobody cares

>>103164885
No, holoDRONES reside on xitter/discords/reddit/etc. holoFANS use /vt/ because you can discuss things critically without a bunch of troons shoving a pitchfork up your asshole. That's the difference.

>>103165270
this is a good point people don’t think about enough. where is even a semi popular chuuba going to shitpost besides here?

>>103165115
>if you only read things from the catalog
every thread is only the catalog dumbass
>are so stupid you take everything posted at face value
this is women we're talking about

>>103165452
>every thread is only the catalog dumbass
when people say “in the catalog” they are generally referring to threads that aren’t generals. hope this helps newfag

>>103165557
There are a number of generals worse than the catalog. /NijiEN/, /asp/ and /shon/ to name a few.

>>103160158 (OP)
>"/vt/ is influential! My proof is a screenshot from four years ago!"
Maybe back then it was, but the site shutting down made people realize just how little it actually matters in the grand scheme of things. That's why you've started seeing more and more of them shit on unicorns recently. Because they realized just how powerless this place actually is.

>>103160369
>discerning real feedback from the shitposting is the hard part
aka impossible lmao, fucking everything is anonymous LOL

>>103167887
there has never been more unicorn friendly indies and corpos than right now so I’m not sure what your schizo babble is about

>>103160727
that's great and all but often times criticism is too specific/detailed and infrequent, so even if it's not a troll, you risk catering your entire channel to the opinions of 3 frequent posters (because there are no ID's to identify anyone)

>>103168338 (me)
now that i think about it vtubing literally has people sending hate superchats (giving money to people they don't like), so the possibility for dedicated saboteurs is way higher since haters are actually willing to spend money, what's to say they won't spend time as well (faking a history of support so their bad advice is taken seriously)? other types of trolls spend a ton of time trolling

>>103160158 (OP)
I think she was hacked. She didn't put that there!

>>103162882
True.
That's why the indie / aspiring VTuber general is full of people who want to be VTubers looking for real feedback.

>>103161166
Girls don't like equally big losers that openly resent them either

>>103160727
The fagcords are full of people saying not streaming for any reason is good actually and everyone agreeing.

>>103168455
Lest we forget

>>103160369
>>103160727
There are also a lot of people here and we were one of the first to have a forum dedicated to this hobby.

most influential

>>103167887
Kind of funny how /vt/ went from threads getting archived from ~1 hour to 4 hours. This place is dead as fuck with only the schizos who are rangebanned from the other place infesting it
Mods and jannies had a chance to redeem (heh) themselves but they decided to take a shit on it instead. Hey at least you cant anti Phase anymore am i right

>>103160158 (OP)
If you are not an absolute newfaggot tourist, half of a working braincell, and not brown, you can probably find a real genuine feedback here unlike most other websites.

>>103175535
holofags were already coddled here by mods and jannies before they got their holokek nyfco equivalent

>>103175711
>rangebanning SEA and banning any shitposter on sight makes it the equivalent of a site where sisters were organizing raids and posting doxx
You wish.

>>103175895
Think buying a pass circumvents rangebanning
>but they're too poor
Not all of them