This creature having a fanbase has always been the most inexplicable shit to me.

>>103181118 (OP)
he was early, that's literally it

>>103181118 (OP)
Seethe harder.

>>103181118 (OP)
Who's this?

People will watch anything if it looks female enough

I don't think I've ever seen anyone able to explain why they watch him either
funny thing i saw a reddit thread during three vshojo drama where a bunch of people had their "hot take" coming-clean about not understanding the appeal of this ttsbot.

>>103181118 (OP)
cope Seethe

>>103181118 (OP)
What's the benefit of publicly announcing that you're no longer someone's friend then doing a drunk pity bait stream after where you imply you don't want to be alive multiple times before deleting the VOD?

My only problem with Zen is the meltdowns and the resistance to moving away from the monotone tts. There are others that do it better like Mother_v3 (also uses TTS for the same obvious reason)

>>103181141
>>103181187
>he/him
*she/her

>>103181201
That's from her Discord server, no?

>>103181231
she got rid of her monotone tts and got a new system like Mother_v3
https://youtu.be/3lbgGG-pgho

>>103181255
Does anyone have proof that Zen is a dude, or is it just a schizo rrat that has been going on for years uncontested?

>>103181294
Women are too self centered to accept popularity behind a live2d model and tts

>>103181294
>Uncontested
Zen has spent years trying to scrub the video where he outed himself as a dude off of the internet

>>103181231
Surely it's speech to speech? Unless he/she has a truly godly wpm

>>103181324
Where is it?

>>103181334
I'm not eating a vacation just to spoonfeed you

>>103181231
lots of chuubas end up ghosting Zen because his collab choices are insufferable, his DELAYED tts makes it annoying as fuck to even hold conversations, it's just obnoxious to deal with, nobody except leeches would want to accomodate for that
then zentranny starts having public meltdowns over being ghosted, basically implying they are backstabbers without ever considering why all these people stay away from this dipshit
he is so fucking lucky none of them have to balls to just call him out in this (but that's also why I don't feel pity for them having to deal with zen's self-pity and vulnerable narcissism)

>>103181329
Slayy

>>103181294
I saw this in another thread >>103179276
Before you dismiss this, I'd like to see any actual proof that Zen is a woman not just him/her claiming it to be so

>>103181329
It's speech to text to speech, which added an ungodly amount of lag in every conversation until recently.
>>103181187
Zen is decently funny when interacting with the chat and has a coomer model. Also very committed to 3D which is a rarity in the EN space.

>>103181313
That's barely an argument.

>>103181118 (OP)
I don't really get it either, I mean to each his own I guess.

But that really is the hottest design of all time. Thank you Raora

Zoomer Coomers
they see big tits they coom
they might realize it's a man but it's [current year] and that's heckin valid so they zoom

>>103181408
she got new tts you fag she cant hold conversation pretty will now

>>103181324
If there's actually a video, I'd love to see it. And no, I'm not looking it up myself.

>>103181444
I said that it got better recently.

>>103181412
But it’s true.

>>103181444
sorry wrong ping meant for >>103181373
she got new tts wich is pretty fast now

>>103181398
I'm not dismissing anyone or anything. I'm just against making claims without backing them up, even if the evidence is circumstancial. I'll have a look now.

Retards making the same thread every week has always been the most inexplicable shit to me.

>>103181373
Yeah, the delay is extremely annoying.

>>103181294
It's purely "She's hiding her face/voice, so it MUST be a man" shit.
Zen's reasons for hiding her voice were a bit silly, but the TTS became her brand now.

>>103181294
All the videos are on Varishangout, including the one when Zen was collabing with the frog dude that got cancelled a while back and his STS program malfunctioned and revealed his real voice.

>>103181201
this was a rough read alright

>>103183305
https://workupload.com/archive/KQNNaRRxcC¨

from the other zen thread

>>103181255
>she/her
Correct.

>>103183305
It doesn't matter if her "real" voice failed to give you a boner. She decides how she is addressed, not you.

>>103181118 (OP)
She's hot and she likes to step on her audience.

>>103181272
>her
>>103183637
It's a man.

The new TTS is pretty awesome. Her streams became more tolerable.

>chibison hasn't been seen since the collapse
she was in on it

>>103181294
https://x.com/Okabe_Rintar0IF/status/1950689027902120323

>>103183704
>It's a man.
No, you're just a contrarian asshole.

>she
Lol

>>103181118 (OP)
I occasionally watch his streams, geckos can be some fun motherfuckers. And Zen puts the model's capabilities to good use, non verbal humor can hit just right quite often. But generally the streams are just comfy due to not being cluttered, TTS means there's less filler.

>>103183771
I don't watch content that is just tolerable. Neither should you.

>>103183516
LOL

>>103181118 (OP)
woke ppl love trannies

>>103183844
Oh no no no no zenxisters not like this....

>>103183844
People will see this and still pretend she’s a girl

>>103183844
I thought he was a tranny, but he's actually just a normal dude simply lying on the internet?
Honestly better than I expected.

>>103181393
Do you retarded coomers really jerk it to what looks like NPCs from a GTA clone?

>>103181294
In every coomer clip I see on 4chin, he moves like a man. I don't understand how that doesn't register with you. Not even a tranny or gay man, just some random dude with a coomer model.

Also, he has no photos online, which is literally impossible for a woman.

>>103185297
I can't afford to sit around and analyze Zen's movements. If anything, the streams are basically background noise, while I'm doing other stuff most of the times.

>>103183516
Massive cope for someone who got gaslit by a retarded tranny drug addict

>>103185088
>Constant threads about Nimi "grifting" by not fucking each and every one of her followers
>This is ok though

>>103181141
and also friends with popular people

>>103181294
Why would a blessed, perfect female hide her voice behind a fucking TTS?
That's the stupidest shit I've ever heard
Women are living in a state of gender euphoria and so are pleased to speak, unlike males

>>103183516
you should kill yourself you idiot, thats not how it works
I decide how i address you. Me and me alone, and i am choosing to address this tranny as he, and i am choosing to address you as the retarded post-abortion mistake you are

>>103185297
>he has no photos online, which is literally impossible for a woman

>>103189717
You know this to be true.

>>103189717
I mean, he's right

>>103185052
Respect xirs pronouns shitlord

>>103183844
I don't understand why he can't be honest about it?

>>103181118 (OP)
are you that faggot mod lemango that she banned or some shit?

>>103189891
>>103190000
The image you're replying to is of Geega, who is the same.

>>103181118 (OP)
vrchat had a lot of people just like him. most eventually did a voice reveal and fell off. others became mutes and dancers, some of these still use TTS as a voice. viewing it isolated its inexplicable, but there were many people like him, vrchat had a massive boom in popularity and some like zen managed to turn it into a stream and viewership.

>>103181118 (OP)
I don't know why so many people say they like this model, do they not have eyes?

>>103190156
I would not be surprised if she has pictures on another account

>>103190156
geega is a vapid retarded cunt like her friend moriko kyoho

>>103181152
luigi mario

>>103188580
Being a girl on the internet is like using the Drake Sword. Yes, it's powerful, yes, it will carry you through early challenges. But it doesn't scale, you learn nothing, you pick up bad habits.

The reason top earners and most popular content creators are, and forever will be, male is because they physically can't use "I am horny", "I am cute" and "I have boobs" as content.

All Zentreya did was self-sabotage. You know I am right. Take your oshi, filter all her content of those three, and tell me what's left.

>>103189348
NTA, but does that mean I can address you as "it"? Such an underrated pronoun.

Adababa au au na na na abubububububub blblblblblb

>>103190187
lol vr chat? 100% a guy then. I got two male friends who do the silent dancer bit with female models together. the amount of crazy shit I hear people say when we are hanging out in game is hilarious and it's been like 3 years or so with no one finding out as far as I'm aware

>>103190748

don't care whatever Is behind it, the model is pure sex and I will continue to give my cum to it

>>103190550
Hmm, all I am left with is sick violin skill/music talent and a massive well of yapping power. So I guess my oshi passes this test.

>>103181408
What's the funniest bit he's ever done?

>>103190897
>yapping power
buddy ai chatbots run through microsoft sam are a better companion

>>103191115
Not really

>>103191115
I don't know if you've tried to talk to an ai before but they do NOT compare to human yapping, even now. They still got a long way to go.
Also I become a fan more so cause of her music skills. Still passes.

>>103190748
I wonder if we could perform a transition that doesn't fucking suck, like going into a new cyborg body, how many guys would switch sides

>>103190550
???
Zen will have enough money now to retire in his 30s
He's not some diminishing 3view he's a high 4view with extensive merch and a rabid fanbase

>>103181118 (OP)
What I can tell you, op? There is lot of chasers on the internet.

Anyone has her plain jane bumper?

>>103191397
And if that's all he wanted to aspire to, then good for him. But how many artists have you seen say "I made enough money, I quit"? They exist, sure, but they are the exception, not the rule.

>>103191397
I think they were referring moreso to quality of content than numbers. If zen wants to do more ambitious things they will be very limited with their options

>>103181118 (OP)
It mostly speaks to how bad the overall content in Vshojo was. If you had to pick between some TTS thing, or "I got railed like a pipe," you'd also pick the TTS.

>>103181294
Early 2018 vrchat adventures clip. You're probably too much of a newfag to even remember Zen's original avatar was a red haired yandere suit and tie with a chainsaw weapon.

>>103181118 (OP)
>menhera troon
>phasetroon collaber
Kek

>>103191784
Yeah that's definitely what it was like

>>103183844
i thought they were a she because of how shit they were at games. so is he trans or just gay?

>>103181294
varishangout.com/data/video/13/13911-dac6793d3e133c380bb249a08bfc0473.mp4

>>103192041
https://youtu.be/JM07HYSGVho

>>103190550
It doesn't scale but grants you better odds at succeeding, for people like Zen is not about scaling, but being able to have a fanbase, even if small without having actual talent besides coomer bait, TTS and shitty humor. If Zen started as a male Vtuber we both know he would be working at a crappy job. Pretty much all babinikus have realized this. It's easier to make money pretending being a woman than streaming as a man.

>>103192041
Zentranny is a permanent reminder just how easy it is to abuse the DMCA system to hide stream clips that expose things you don't want people to know. He's still copy-right striking this exact video off Youtube if you try to upload it (maybe it stopped now that Vshitshow is done for).

>>103192027
Who judges someone gender based on game skill lmfao are you 12?

>>103192734
I'm 45

You'd think someone would've crashed out and done a google dockey by now. Or the indie harpies would've swarmed just to kill some competition.

>Take a random clip of a vtuber
>Record your own voice over it
>Spread it accross the internet as a leaked voice reveal
>People with confirmation bias will keep bringing it up as the one proof, over and over again
>proceed to lol and maybe even lmfao, as a treat.

>>103193212
I genuinely can't tell if this is meant to be funny or actual cope.

>>103193212
Anon single-handedly propping up the copium industry

>>103189348
>you should kill yourself you idiot, thats not how it works
>I decide how i address you. Me and me alone, and i am choosing to address this tranny as he, and i am choosing to address you as the retarded post-abortion mistake you are
It's good that you all make yourselves so easy to identify.

>>103181118 (OP)
It's the same principle as guys who ERP with complete strangers online. The overwhelming sense that their smoking hot "female" partner is an obese neckbeard is always there, but it's overridden by them thinking with their dicks,

>>103193398
Im sorry, did you think im italian?

>>103193890
The beauty of vtubers is that you can think purely with your dick without consequence. When Zentreya shows her grippers, I have a boner. No further cognitive overhead is necessary.

>>103194332
I don't care if you're Italian or not. Your body will obey the same laws of physics regardless.

Zen definitely was raised by a single mother right? There is no way someone with a father figure has this many emotional breakdowns and then goes to post about it online.

>>103193398
I wonder why every progressive thinks themselves a revolutionary. Do they want violence that badly? Do they not see how that would make life worse for everyone?

>>103181118 (OP)
The evidence is staggering. This is a male.

>>103194559
Are you a child psychologist?

>>103194631
I'm a communist, not a progressive. The death of a fascist is an objective good for society.

>>103194652
Yes.

zen gets so many views because despite using a tts voice and being a raging alcoholic with attachment issues, zen is still a better vtuber than (you)r unentertaining personality vacuum of an oshi. zen is lapping the vtubing community with 1000kg training weights.

I see this as a major win for the Male Gender jk but imagine

>>103194698
Points for honesty I suppose. Just be wary to not create your fascists from whole cloth.

>>103194559
>Zen definitely was raised by a single mother right?
most non-Holo chuubas were

>>103185274
Yes, this is /vt/ after all.

>>103194362
>>>/wsg/5942176

>>103194423
Actually im transmeta, i exist above the laws of physics

the only people who complain about zen being a man are deeply colseted faggots and people who only watch GFE vtubers. all this bitch does is play video games and your acting like its a issue that they have a fat texan hog

>>103195161
Based

>>103195275
The only person who has an issue with zen being a man is zen himself, how do you not see this? i dont care if you watch him or crank it to his model, but you guys flood any post that says you are gay despite or that hes a man with insane levels of coping

>>103195363
>but you guys flood any post that says you are gay despite or that hes a man with insane levels of coping
this does bot happen, what does happen is you closeted troons keep flooding the board with this shit despite everyone saying they dont care. the only one that is coping is you

>>103195161
Imagine being this shameless.

>>103195499
Get checked for alzheimers grandpa, its happening in this very thread

>>103195542
learn English comprehension, people are getting tired of you constantly coping that zen is a man when people have repeatedly told you that they dont care, they arent coping about zen not being a woman, they are telling to shut the fuck up already. because, and i will stress this, the only people who care are closeted faggots and people who watch GFE.

>>103195672
Buddy you are literally proving my point, i am calling you a fag and you instantly try and no-u. If you really didnt care, youd stay in your vshojo general, but no you have to run defense in this thread because you are ashamed of being a homosexual faggot. Buddy its 2025 nothing wrong with being gay, but im calling a spade a spade, and a fag a dicksucker. Shut the fuck up, go back to watching your man shake his ass and accept you are a massive closeted homosexual

>>103195995
your reading comphersion is fucked if you think that is what i am saying. i am not instantly trying to no you. i am saying that noone cares. can you read???? is it hard for you ??? mother fucker i am calling you a closted homosexual, because you care so much about some texan bimbos fucking gender when all they do is play video games, they dont do GFE shit , they dont do only fans. THAT IS IT. Who gives a fuck if its a dude

>>103189348
Yeah, and then we and we alone have the ability to call you a retarded woman yourself.

>>103181255
>>103181294
>>103181334
>>103181444
>>103183246
Confront the evidence. Don't be willfully blind.

docs.google.com/document/d/1DsugND-vmxbbsqcoL7V6FTPyh8d09udwTdloCc-G0c8/edit?tab=t.0

>>103196406
who gives a fuck if hes a dude? You do, his viewers do, Zentraya does as well, why in the fuck do you think he never mentions his gender, why he never uses his voice, why the old clips of him constantly get deleted? Because he cares that hes a dude, you care, everybody cares you fucking moron, that is why you are in this thread arguing with me right fucking now you retard
>no actually its totally normal to watch a streamer who uses tts so that everything he says has a delay, has a female model and shakes the models tits and ass for viewers
Name one other fucking notable case of a streamer using tts for themselves
There is none, becuase it is a million times easier to just use your voice, and guess why zen doesnt use theirs
Just type the words "I am a gay man, watching another man pilot a model to goon to" it will alleviate the stress you are feeling, you can come out here on 4chan, even if you cant irl

>>103196720
that dude is blueballing us by not saying anything about what the gangbang discord channels were about. How come I wasn't invited? I've been a 5 year 3 tier sub to Zen wtf

>>103181255
>>103196319

>>103196755
Bro you're writing fanfic about some guy using TTS like you're blowing open some conspiracy. He’s just playing games with an anime avatar. Nobody but you is spiraling over his gender like it's the Zapruder film. You keep acting like you’ve uncovered something, but all you’ve done is cry about tits on Twitch for five posts straight.

Yes, he uses TTS. Yes, the model has boobs. No, nobody gives a fuck except you. You're the only one stuck in here yelling about it like it's a personal betrayal. You want me to say I'm a gay dude watching a man with a female model? Cool. There. Said it. Now what? You gonna write another manifesto? Gonna jerk off to your own rage? I promise you, nobody else is sweating this but you.

I saw this thread a few days ago.

>>103181474
>wrong ping
discordfags aren't even being subtle anymore

>>103197170
yeah it keeps coming up because of some closeted faggot who doesnt understand that noone cares if zen is a dude or not

>>103181141
>>103181118 (OP)
Unironically it's the mystery. Yeah it's PROBABLY a guy. But as long as he keeps the TTS he keeps up the facade and keeps people guessing, keeps cucks and simps believing it's a woman, or that it's a man and woman who switch off sometimes, or some other third thing. People like surprises, until they realize the surprise is cock.

There's another vtuber I've been seeing like this that uses tts because 'she' is an ai but zentreya has definitely poisoned me against tts tubers so I assume it has a feminine penis.

>>103196720
jesus christ this is the most pathetic shit i have ever saw

>>103197223
why do you care that people care?

>>103196720
totally not in the closet

>>103197293
because you keep spamming it

>>103181393
I would love to smell his feet while I mating press this colossal faggot. Just raw dog baby batter spewing into his bussy while I huff his toes.

>>103197144
Bro youre having schizophrnic delusions that i posted this thread, i just said that his viewers are fags and they should accept that, i dont care if hes a guy, there are plenty of people who are babinikus you think i give a fuck about all of them? but everytime someone calls zentreya a man or tranny or anything other than a woman, you faggy little cockroaches come running out of your general ready to defend him and say that theres no evidence hes a man, he just is worried about opsec or a million other excuses why he doesnt reveal his gender.
The only reason you visited this thread and even started replying to my post was to argue what? That your oshi's a woman, no arguing there bud. That you arent a homosexual? You are watching a man dance for your pleasure. If you really watched him for entertainment, you would never have opened this thread. You would have stayed in your general and let this thread become another catalog shitpost that gets archived. But here you are coping immensely that you arent a fag

>>103197356
I'm not your boogeyman. Either way, Zen antis are coming out of the woodworks now that she's in a vulnerable state and will keep spamming this shit + the google dockey to piss off people like you who are on the clock defending her.

>>103196720
I might start watching the guy. A hot mommy with a male spirit? Kino
>>103197268
how about scrolling down, boy?

>>103197548

> "how about scrolling down, boy?"
>okay dad
>scroll down
>it’s 10,000 words of speculation, VRChat drama, screenshots from 2014, and dead mom lore
>half the sources are MediaFire links like this is a RuneScape cheat site in 2007
>“I don’t know him” followed by “here’s what his mom’s birthday was”
>paragraph about his laugh being “contagious”
>unironically ends with “DM me for furry gangbang pics”
>scroll back up
>still pathetic

>>103197492
You say you don’t care, but you’ve written more about this man’s gender than most people write in their diaries. You’re not exposing anything , you’re just mad a TTS anime avatar lives in your head rent-free while you scream “not gay” with a raging semi. No one’s coping but you. And it’s not even subtle.

Nigga i am already out of the closet, i have been since 2012, i am not hiding that part unlike you

>>103197657
insane coping. It's just straight up lying to yourself.

>>103197507
i am not the one mad, i litterally popinted out that the people who give a fuck about zen being a dude are closted faggots , and this one faggots just has a melty accusing me of being gay like its some gotcha even though i have been fucking men since 2012

>>103197792
Imagine calling other people delusional while defending a document that ends with ‘DM me for furry gangbang pics.

>>103197864
In English please

>>103197972
i am gay and you should stop trying to make the fact you are in the closet everyone else problem

>>103197775
Im writing about this mans gender because despite the fanfiction you are writing, every thread about zen basically devolves into "is he a man", and every thread has people who will cope and lie in the face of evidence, that "no, zens totally a woman, theres a totally valid reason they dont use their voice", if you have an issue with this, tou are harassing the wrong man, you have to be replying to the people who say that zens a woman like >>103181255
Like yes im gonna say zens gender is male, because every thread this inevitable cope comes out, you are targeting the wrong fucking dude

>>103198104

You're not the victim of a gender misinformation war, man. You're just weirdly committed to correcting strangers about someone else’s pronouns on a board full of people who don’t care. Nobody made you type 5 paragraphs about Zen’s voice. You chose that path. Repeatedly. So if you’re tired of the cope, stop adding to it.

>>103198104
did you ever think that people do that because they are tired of you going
>he
>him
ever time someone posts about Zen.
like again you are the instigator here, why are you acting like the victim here?

>>103197952
You focus on irrelevant aspects about the dockey because you can't counter it's main points. It's sad.

I don't watch this guy because nothing about him really appeals to me, but from everything I've seen he seems like a good bloke.

>>103196720
I wonder how many people will notice that the obituary is edited.

>>103198349
>>103198398

So your airtight “main points” rely on a fake fucking obituary? Incredible. You stalk a VTuber, write a conspiracy doc with horny tangents, and then get caught faking death records. This isn't research, it's fanfiction for the mentally unwell. The only thing sad here is that you thought anyone would take this seriously.

>>103198536
Google it. It's not fake, it's lightly edited, she died on the 29th and not the 30th lol I don't know why she (or whoever did it) would edit something so petty, but this small detail doesn't invalidate the evidence.

i guess its the same reason people watch neuro .. despite them being faggots because their basically jacking off to vedal

>>103198536
Personally I respect the hustle. People don't put in enough effort nowadays. But I'm looking for a Sinder style public execution if anything, not this.

>>103198233
>>103198330
motherfucker you are the fag who walked into a thread that you knew would have this shit. what did you expect coming into this thread? you have no reason to come into a thread that you knew would be about his gender unless you wanted to argue about this shit. all you have to do is hit the x on the window nad you go back to watching zen, its that easy.

>>103198752
>It's not fake, it's lightly edited

>>103198752
it’s only slightly fake” is not the defense you think it is. You altered someone’s obituary. You’re not proving a point, your just making shit up

>>103198850

Yes, I entered the thread. You built a tent and started monologuing about pronouns like it’s your anime villain origin story. If you’re tired of people calling you obsessed, maybe stop being so obsessed.

>>103198877
>>103198955
I checked again and it's not even edited, there are just 2 versions, one stating her death happened on the 29th and another on the 30th. Try it yourself "(mom's name) passed away november 30th".

>>103198997
>>103195275
are you actually retarded? i am the one who replies to YOU first. is this tent visible to anyone other than you?

>>103198850
>"don't post in this thread unless you agree with me!!"

>>103199050
the first search result shows a photo of her grave with the correct date, november 30th, it's fucking over.

zen stop posting and get the apology dockey ready

>>103199050
You replying first doesn’t change the fact that you’re still camped out in a thread arguing about another man’s gender like it’s a full-time job. The tent’s visible, bro — it’s made of your posts. We’re all just watching you spiral inside it.

Yeah /lig/ger are weird

>>103199244
I guess you meant to reply to >>103198997

>>103199050
Strange, but little inconsistencies like that undermine fragile webs

>>103199244
so what does that make you, a man who runs defence for zen like its a full time job? does zen at least pay you? or are you zen hoping to protect what audience will remain after the google document is dropped? you are in the tent with me, pretending you are above it all

How does this image make you feel?

>>103199436
Check this >>103199199. The dockey is legit, it's not looking good for him.

>>103181294
from what i have heard here and there, they were a couple at the beginning that broke up then the guy kept streaming alone using tts.

>>103183516
Here's the thing though, Zen isn't trans. It's a male pretending to be a woman, that's way different. This isn't a matter of respecting pronouns, it's a matter of the streamer lying to their audience.

>>103199636
horny

>>103199636
Disappointed that I can't see her feet

>>103199636
I feel pity and I hope she chokes to death on that banana for her own good

>>103200471
>it's a matter of the streamer lying to their audience
The industry term for that is "kayfabe"

>>103200471
>It's a male pretending to be a woman, that's way different.
It's really not. Her "real" self is irrelevant. She has chosen to present herself this way to others.

>>103195521
>Imagine being this shameless.
What is there to be ashamed of in the clip?

>>103199636
Like I want to impregnate him
>>103200680
Same

>>103191837
Why are you so obsessed with phase? It's not healthy.

>>103190550
>Take your oshi, filter all her content of those three, and tell me what's left.
Effortlessly funny and quick-witted
Sweet and caring, in a way that feels deeply genuine
Good at singing
Dedicated to her audience, constantly working on new things for us

If your streamer doesn't offer anything beyond a pretty face or some fat tits, maybe it's time you found a better streamer?

>>103203664
zen just turn off the pc this isnt good for your mental, just go outside, stop drinking and take a break

Never understood people who are somehow convinced Zen is a dude. If you've watched enough of her 3D streams and listened to her talk about stuff it becomes incredibly obvious that she's a woman - and an often hyper-emotional one at that.

It shouldn't be surprising that someone who has chosen to go the vtuber route in the first place over a regular streamer might value their privacy highly (or potentially be self-conscious about how they sound/look).

>>103203842
>>103203729

>>103203842
moves and stands like a dude, if the shoes fits, wear it. not that i care, really, if zen isn't stirring shit and stays in his lane who am i to complain? people like zen for his personality and that counts for something.

>>103203842
It would be very easy for them to prove they aren't, though?

>>103181143
look at this gay faggot simping for a guy kek.

>>103203842
Never understood why people like you believe Zen is a girl. It would be very easy to prove he isn't a dude, but he can't.

>>103181201
>trans
>thinking about the benefits of starting drama
>>103203842
>overly emotional means not a troon
>wants privacy
>joins corpo
>only one using tts instead of their voice
hmm

>>103204308
Because the people convinced she's a dude are just a few loud dumbshits on venues like this? Why would she even entertain some never-ending cycle of having to provide "proof" that she's a woman? Why would you assume she's not what she says she is until she provides "proof" in the first place?

Might as well ask Mouse why she doesn't provide "proof" to 4chan that she really has CVID too.

>>103204622
You're panicking that we all know your fetish for men

>>103204622
>>103203729

This dude is way too emotionally fragile

>>103181373
They could just be honest instead of acting like passive-aggressive Japs who expect you to "read between the lines". Neurotypicals are such self-absorbed cunts.

Sex model and the first to do the TTS thing to hide his voice. He knows what the audience wants and panders to it. Likewise, he's got the in with a bunch of the big named women so they help keep him boosted.

>>103181279
Never understand why people call it TTS, it's not like he's sitting there typing it out, he's literally talking and using a voice changer in real time.

>>103181294

I've seen clips on here before of his "Real voice reveal" that was basically his girlfriend at the time acting like she was Zen, but didn't know a single on of the chat memes while "her boyfriend" did for Zen and even said something like, "I look forward to being part of this community" you know, the community that was SUPPOSEDLY hers.

>>103205287
Its not a voice changer, that's not how that works. It's his male voice speaking to a machine that turns it into text which then is read out by Microsoft Sam.

My only gripe is I still do not know how anyone thinks the tts is acceptable in terms of entertainment. The voice is like 70% of the chuba and without it you're just looking at a pretty jpeg, like literally anyone could use the same program and stand in for Zen and we wouldn't know. There's no personality in the delivery and it KILLS any collab as everyone always has to pause and wait for the program to respond, in the same infliction, every time.

>>103197238
Unironically this.
>Tradeoff
Hasn't been a thing since the breakup at the start of Covid. We don't know who owns the character now, but it's probably the penis-haver.
>Motherv3
Unironically a failed attempt at copying Neuro and Vedal, but had to start piloting the model because his coding was too weak.

>>103205664
whoop, inflection*

>>103205287
It's not a voice changer, it is literally Voice to Text to Speech. There is no modulating the natural voice which is what a voice changer is.

What the fuck is happening? Why is everyone suddenly a Zen anti?

>>103190074
Because male vtubers are no where near as popular as female ones.

>>103205884
Blood in the water after the company fell apart, her breaking up with at least one vtuber from there, and getting drunk and depressed, live on stream.