New Hololive popularity poll just dropped
https://x.com/lashin_fukuoka/status/1953806148743647278

>>103287049 (OP)
Robocobros, not like this...

>>103287049 (OP)
Irys...

>>103287049 (OP)
>everyone has at least one vote
Rigged, they probably got one right off the bat. Also I didn't know Raden was that popular

>>103287049 (OP)
If suisei is supposedly soo popular and so many people have her as their oshi then why is her viewership so low?

>>103287155
Retard. Faggot. Brown.

>>103287240
She doesn't even stream that much, most of her fans probably only listen to songs and go to concerts

>>103287242
We dont sign our posts here

>>103287155
The address indicates that it is the rasinban of Fukuoka, Japan.
It is a large city in western Japan, and since Raden is from there, I think he has local votes.

>>103287049 (OP)
This whole chart seems incredibly strange.
Where on earth was this poll taken? A music store?

>>103287240
Pretty simple, actually. She built herself up far more into the music and idol side of things. She streams far less, and thus has far less people looking for the streams. But they love her music, her performances, her other content not done on Youtube. She is not as much of an entertainer.
I know one or two hoshiyomi who just don't watch holo streams anymore in general but still keep Suisei as their oshi.

>>103287049 (OP)
what do the colors of the dots mean

>>103287289
i think shes funny when shes crashing out at competitive games, if she focused that she could be a good streamer. she reads chat quickly too

>>103287049 (OP)
>Irys less popular than Mori

Wow, the Japs have dogshit taste

>>103287049 (OP)
Why the hell do so many people like Kanade?
She talks like she's permanently having a stroke.

>>103287386
yeah, irys should not have a sticker at all

>>103287386
>funny texan woman vs disgusting hapa
Not surprising actually

>>103287049 (OP)
Everyone who doesn't have at least 2 rows of dots should be shitcanned. Dead weight.

>>103287409
>funny

Anon, genuinely, can you please link me a clip of Mori being actually funny?

>>103287413
RIP Mio and Sora...

>>103287369
I agree, and she had that for a good while. But then she got higher into what she really wanted to be doing, and went hard into it. Good for her, honestly.

>>103287049 (OP)
What's wrong with Roboco?

>>103287416
You're not a Jap, you wouldn't get it

>>103287049 (OP)
>they still hate the hafu nephilim
lol
based japs

>>103287440
I get the Japs have terrible taste.

>>103287466
That doesn't make sense. They gave more stickers to fuwamoco and they're not any kind of jap.

>>103287049 (OP)
Do the colours mean anything? Also I had no idea Raden was this popular, more so than Pekora, what the fuck? What does she even do?

>>103287049 (OP)
>only one higher then Kronii is Mori
>rest of EN and ID getting mogged up the ass
Kronii can't stop winning

>You will NOT put your sticker under my name

>>103287512
>do thing that people enjoy
>become popular
truly we live in challenging times

>>103287487
Because they’re purebreds
Asian despise mixed race 'people'

>>103287707
So they hate themselves?

>>103287155
>rigged, one off the bat
If true, Japans worst is
>nobody likes you(1dot)
IRyS
Shiori
Gigi
Ceci
Risu
Moona
Ollie
Reine
Kaela
Kobo
>at least 1 fan (2 dots)
Roboco
Kiara
Bae
Biboo
Rissa
Liz
Raora
Iofi
Anya
Zeta
>bronze (3 dots)
Flare
Lui
Riona
Vivi
FWMC
who bottom right

All of ID, most of EN and the rest barely not placing top 3 worst, both branches on average losing to FlowGlow

On the bright side I didn't know Iroha was so beloved

>>103287755
They should but they are too hypocritical

>>103287757
Think of how fucking sad that would be if you didn't get even one sticker. You gonna tell me someone walked in and stuck a sticker on Ollie?

>>103287757
oh that's iroha? I thought it was kanade
God, all these blonde titty girls look the same

>>103287707
more like inbreds

>Pekoleech has less than Miko
LMAO

>>103287386
barely anyone in japan sees irys outside of her randomly showing up in one of flares splatoon streams.

>>103287289
This, watching the Super Nova stream ticket a hundred times doesn't bring her channel views never mind streams.

luknights..

>>103287819
They are sorted by their gens how would you think that's Kanade?

>>103287871
She's also right next to ao.

god this must be soulcrushing for some holos
especially ones like Roboco who have been at it for what, 7 years?

>>103287049 (OP)
Chosen by Japan's very own Royal Family

>>103287892
If you keep going down the line below you see next comes Kanade, Ririka, Raden, and Jimmy

>>103287049 (OP)
And this deserves a thread because?

>>103287049 (OP)
All these stupid sticker polls always show is, that convention goers are mostly normalfags, well atleast in the sense that they rather watch clips and click popular MVs instead of streams

>>103287941
yeah now I see it.
I just saw blonde side pony and thought "oh that must be kanade"

>>103287049 (OP)

>>103287327
Nothing. You can see the numbers on the side when they hit 10, 20, and so on. So each sticker just has a value of one

>>103287908
>Chosen by Japan's very own Royal Family
she is the most popular HoloEN according to that poll

>>103287964
to laugh at your oshi if she's a shitter

>>103287757
japs have such shit fucking taste

>Mori the most popular EN
Wuffians.....

>>103288160
Cope. They had to nerf Fuwamoco by splitting them in two or they would have 6 stickers, more then Mori

>>103287049 (OP)
Got it—so the only ones worth watching are Marine, Iroha, and Suisei.

>>103288250
Wait, aren't those three of the holomem who stream the least out of anyone?

>>103287289
She built herself up? You mean she was prompted.

>>103287049 (OP)
IRyS mogs most of JP yet gets no votes. Nips have shit taste as usual.

>>103288148
this is >>103287757(me)
I genuinely enjoy all of the bottom tier ID & EN except Shiori, FWMC, and idk...Bae I guess?
Flowglow, Lui, and Flare are all on jps so I have no say on taste, I have no idea
>>103287813
>Ollie
is unironically my ID oshi so, yeah if I were there and I saw she had no stickers she'd get mine, no question no matter what. But still I get why some of them are bottom tier just the placements...
0 IDs placed out of bottom. I get they aren't exalted or anything but holy shit
EN not much better
Liz (whom I like) above IRyS? And Kobo too, huhh?

>>103288091
They obviously mean something, you can see in the top corner there is a sheet explaining it. Presumambly it's something like your actual oshi, your sidepiece, some pity vote, etc.

>>103288448
>laughs in Ayame

>>103287240
It's not low at all though? She gets around 20k ccv easily

>>103287275
>>103287289
Those people aren't fans if they don't watch streams. They dont have an oshi.

>>103288810
Post your membership

>>103288810
Lol retard

>>103287240
"IT DA BIDIDABA SKIBIDI VTUBER!"

Iroha mogging, what

>>103288786
Her last two streams got 16k and 17k and she has rarity buff. Miko, Subaru, Marine, Pekora get more, Fubuki, Korone, Azki get around the same, yet this isn't reflected in the poll.
Filthy secondaries voted in the poll who only vaguely know about suisei from the bibidooba song. That's it.

>>103288832
>>103288835
I accept your concession. You don't watch streams you aren't a fan. Simple as.

>>103287049 (OP)
>Iroha
Based qt3.14
>Raden
Damn, I kneel to the arthoe

>>103287240
This is like asking why miko or peko's MVs have low views despite having high stream views. Every holo has their own specialization. The only balance holo is marine. High MV views and high stream views.

>>103288914
Maybe you should consider that CCV doesn’t necessarily reflect popularity. It just means you’re a good streamer and Suisei doesn’t even consider herself a streamer.

Man, that must be so much fun for the less popular Holos to see ANOTHER popularity chart by some inconsiderate asshole. It must be a lot of fun for girls like Roboco to be beaten down like this all the time.

>>103287049 (OP)
>You will NOT put only 3 stickers in my column!

>>103287155
>>103287503
Raden has a unique JP-only appeal. It's hard for EOPs to get her.

>>103289745
They don't "get" her because her entire shtick is being an Easterner who wants to be a Westerner.

>>103287049 (OP)
Iroha stocks going up

>>103289554
To be fair, this is a completely worthless chart, it was made ridiculously large despite such a small sample. This chart is more meaningful at something like Holofes where realistically all the biggest Holofans will be there and so every member will have at least some of their biggest fans in attendance but for the bigger Holos maybe only their 200 biggest fans are there and for another all of their 10 big fans are there.

I'm sorta surprised how popular flow glow is compared to the rest, I don't really see many posts about them as the others, but I guess they are doing ok.

>>103289759
That sounds more like Korone or Haachama.

>>103287289
Also YouTube has her channel marked as a music channel in the algorithm. That means that every time she streams it hurts her music uploads reach but every music upload hurts her non music reach.

>>103289830
That's not how that works at all.

>>103289759
Just because she's a geek who's into arts and culture doesn't mean she "wants to be a westerner". A lot of the arts and culture discussion she does is heavily JP and I assume EOPs would get bored of that since they mostly want randomly chaotic or sexual types.

>Raden and Iroha more popular than Pekora
Sure
>>103289807
The entirety of dev_is are bottom feeders
>>103289745
She gets like 50-60k views in most of her streams, anon. She just got lucky with a single tiktok short being popular.

I wouldn't say this reflects badly on the non-JPs. I'm sure if you did something similar in the US the likes of Kanata or Fubuki or Subaru would be lucky to get 2 stars. Though ID would still get shit numbers.

>>103289945
>The entirety of dev_is are bottom feeders
Most JPs are, and it's a fact that hololive would have died in 2020 if not for Myth.

>>103287049 (OP)
its really funny how Calli is kinda like a reverse FWMC situation
>doesn't pander to Japs all that much
>but they love her so much anyway
while FWMC
>panders to Japs hard
>don't get too much love or support from them anyway

>>103287049 (OP)
I think it just shows how oversaturated Hololive is.

>>103290170
Because
>kari-san kakoii!!!

>>103287049 (OP)
would pekora lose to her mom if she was an option?

>>103287049 (OP)
>Lui only got 3 votes while La+ who got 18
Damn why the FUCK are they still assmad over the ATM comment?

At least it's good to see Raden got more votes over the homostar ad honorem.

>>103287386
>>103290452
It's a known curse: the more fluent you are in JP as a HoloEN or ID, the less the nips cares about you.

>>103290591
If this was about that Laplus would have no votes. Lui is just unpopular.

>>103290545
Yes.

>>103290591
>At least it's good to see Raden got more votes over the homostar ad honorem.
are we pretend all those homo collabs Raden did not exist?

>>103287049 (OP)
did shape and color mean something?

>>103290106
And yet somehow the biggest EN's are still mid-tiers on the top end of the JP scale. JP's just have way more variation in popularity compared to EN's where you are required to be a unityfag to keep the branch alive.

>>103290611
Except they love FWMC. Just look at their numbers and chat when they do something that is interesting to Japs

>>103289813
Watching Marvel or Star Wars does not make you a Westerner, that stuff was made primarily for Eastern audiences.

>>103291034
Man you're retarded

>>103291009
JP numbers do not count because they're mostly from just one country + SEA.

EN still doesn't have much JP mindshare heh. Mark my words, their attempt to be appeal to both JP and EN markets (JP-lite effectively) instead of focusing on one is gonna backfire.

>>103289759
Jesus christ what a fucking retard, for your own good try to get a fucking clue, idiot.

>>103289312
CCV does exactly that though and no I won't consider low views = popular.

>>103291052
Are you actually so dumb that you thought movies got 1 billion plus dollars in box office from a tiny market like the US? Movies nobody in the US has ever heard of brought in more in box office than massive all-time hits in the US.

>>103291081
So you acknowledge if EN's were actually relevant they should have ten times the viewers of JP's like ES or IN channels do.

>>103287433
doesn't stream

>>103293410
They're relevant in countries that matter.

Imagine being a JP with less points than Mori/Ina/Kronii.

>>103287155
>I didn't know Raden was that popular
She effortless reach her way to one million subscribers even with the hiatus she took and most of her collabs being on other people channels. Not to mention the brainrot that her shorts caused.

>>103289554
Hololive talents know these anime con popularity charts are nearly worthless. The subscriber counts are likely more of an issue since Cover will use those in advertisements and official documents. The subscriber numbers constantly be used to hype up stuff likely does feel unfair especially since Myth had a huge initial EN vtuber boost from early casual fans.

>>103294485
Cover only cares about two things: revenue and public reputation. I don’t think they care much about YouTube numbers. They just use those numbers when it’s convenient for them.
Ask ChatGPT

>>103287049 (OP)
>Flare got 3 pity votes

>>103287049 (OP)
Not much of an poll since its based in Japan, might as well remove ID and EN from these. And when did Eroha got so popular?

>>103287503
Pekora isn't so popular anymore after the modified rom incident
update yourself

>>103287049 (OP)
>Kronii
>tied for 2nd most popular EN

>>103289857
source = ?

>>103295991
You're going to have to provide source for your claim first.

>>103287543
Is this a schizo for ants?

>>103296191
>no u
Don't reply to me again you retarded faggot.

>>103296279
If you're not going to source your claim then I can completely disregard it like I already did once.

>>103287049 (OP)
what do the colors mean? anything? like does a red dot count for more?

>103296382
>If you're not going to source your claim then I can completely disregard it like I already did once.
And yet you replied.
lol.

>>103287049 (OP)
what's the point of this other than to make talents feel bad?

>>103287049 (OP)
I like how FWMC threw their EN fanbase under the bus over and over again and it doesn't seem like it really amounted to anything. Good job.

Wasn't expecting Iroha to have that many.

>>103296191
nta, Suisei mentinoed it works like that.

>>103296782
Yeah I replied to call you a clown, clown.

>>103296913
to show support to your oshi, the entire basis of this thing buddy

>>103297174
No she didn't. She was repeating rumors about the youtube algorithm that management has been whispering to the talents to get them to stop streaming.
I don't think she even said anything about the channel mark, and even if she did it's still completely wrong because almost half of all holos are marked as artists and have no issues with getting viewership for streams.

Matsuri fell off hard.

>>103287757
>On the bright side I didn't know Iroha was so beloved
Yeah I'm super surprised at the number of votes she has, not that I thought she was hated or anything but I was certainly not expecting that many. And on the flip side koyo right near her is lower than I thought.

I'm also surprised by the general high popularity of regloss, except for poor ririka

>>103290170
>FWMC split
>combined beat Mori

>>103297300
She's completely right and everyone with a brain agrees. The numbers Suisei and Marine get compared to anyone else in Hololive are insane (the main channel too if we want to be fair). Those channels also stream the least. There are many popular youtubers that put their live content on second channels or shit like that to get around this. The algorithm wants to pigeonhole your channel. It doesn't like when you do something and it tries to recommend that and then the people who clicked on everything else opt to skip that one.

>>103297300
You do realize they have access to their channel analytics, right? They have a more credible source of information to draw a conclusion than you do, unless you also have a channel with 1+ million subs and have done research into your analytics.

>>103297538
Very funny of you to bring up Marine who has no issues with getting viewership for streams and views for her music. How is she completely breaking all of these absolute facts regarding having the artist mark on one's channel?

>>103297580
The channel analytics don't state "if you stream your videos will stop getting views". They're literally just guessing and often reveal that it's the management who's telling them these things.

Suisei is in fact the most popular and retards who think streaming is in any way important are actually retarded.

>>103297711
>The channel analytics don't state "if you stream your videos will stop getting views".
Indeed, and I did not state nor imply they did. I said they give a source of information which they draw a conclusion from. They show things like views over time and you can cross-check that with when you stream regularly or when you haven't been streaming. Wild stuff, I know.
And I did mean Cover being the ones doing it, not Suisei or the other talents, but I guess I could have said that.

In case you forgot, the retarded purple brat did her stint on Twitch for a while for the same reason. She had her edited videos getting less outreach when she also streamed on Youtube, and she wanted more views more than anything else. That said, I dropped her because of that and have no idea if she still uses Twitch primarily or finally moved back (likely management pressure if the latter).

>random poll of customers at a second hand goods shop
might as well be polling random homeless people, who cares?

>103297205
You're still a retard who can't substantiate your claims

I would always put my stickers on whoever has the lowest score :)

>>103297906
>She had her edited videos getting less outreach when she also streamed on Youtube
That was the stated reason but the actual observable reality is that there's no change whether or not she does her streaming on Youtube or Twitch. All of her edited videos from the very beginning up to the most recent one have similar views on average.
There's no magic trick to playing the youtube algorithm where you either choose streaming or videos.

>>103287242
Can you speak like an adult, children aren't welcome here.

>>103298028
But you're the one that hasn't substantiated your claims.

>>103297300
she never said anything about the mark in specific, but she did say that if she streams too much, the music will suffer.

>103298109
>no u
Again? really retard-chama?

>>103298914
You didn't substantiate your claims.

>>103287049 (OP)
extremely brown thread

>>103297711
Did your brain bleed out of your ears? What the fuck are you talking about. The algorithm is not that if you are a popular channel with videos, your streams will be unpopular. It's that if you stream a lot the algorithm will recommend your streams instead of your music but the fact that Marine and Suisei don't stream is why the algorithm recommends their music and not their streams. The reason Suisei and Marine get more views than the biggest Hololive streamers combined despite not streaming themselves is because youtube videos get way more views than streams. It's not an accident all the milestones for billion-view videos and shit like that is music.

>>103299527
Marine has had popular music even back when she did stream. How did that happen? Wasn't Youtube supposed to kill off any music that's uploaded to a channel with streams?
Looks like you're the one whose brain bled out of your ears, moron.

>>103287049 (OP)
The absolute state of EN and ID. No wonder we lost so many talents last year/this year.

>>103299600
Post evidence of your claims, we know you're wrong now but maybe you can prove you were right years ago. That wouldn't really mean anything but it would show you have some historical awareness whereas right now you sound like the idiots who think their oshi's music gets similar views to Marine's or Suisei's.

>>103287049 (OP)
where's the boys

>>103301102
Marine has had popular music since 2020. Are you claiming that she has never been active as a streamer? You're going to have to prove that claim.

>>103301780
You are claiming her music was as popular as it is today in 2020. I'm assuming not relative to her streaming, otherwise her music would actually have to have been more popular when she was streaming.

>>103287242
Those aren't nice things to say about Raden, anon. Not accurate, either.

>>103302112
When did I claim that? I said she had popular music. You on the other hand are claiming that streaming kills music.

>>103287049 (OP)
>No graduated whores
Holy fucking BASED. Wish EN fans were like this.

Are you guys dumb?
It says the poll runs until 8/31 right in the picture. Like 3 weeks left of a single location where people who swing by might stick a dot on. Come back after this is actually over

>>103287049 (OP)
GRIM

>>103287049 (OP)
It's impossible to accurately measure popularity among Japanese people with a short-term poll in a mid-sized Japanese city (roughly the 5th to 7th largest). The number of votes is simply too small.

If you were to conduct the same survey in a different city, it wouldn't be surprising at all if the results were completely different for everyone except for Suisei and Marine.

>>103298071
But then you'd be making someone else have the lowest score

Raden is from the same area, so she's been a topic of conversation. Noel is also from the neighboring Oita Prefecture, which is to the east of Fukuoka. Because they're both from the Kyushu region, there seems to be a bit of a buff for them.

From what I've seen in the streams, it seems like IRyS's popularity among Japanese fans is definitely in the top three among ENs, alongside Bae and FWMC.

>>103288749
They obviously don't mean anything when almost every time there's a chance to match colors the people voting did so.

>>103294995
nobody gives a shit about that one though

>>103287240
>>103288914
>>103287289
>rarity buff
She's been streaming more this year than she has in like the previous 3 years combined. Also her last 2 streams were guerilla and multiPOV collab, two things she has always dropped down to about 15k for, zatsudans following after. Her median is still firmly in the +20k, 4-5th place in hololive.

>>103288696
Mega uber newfag take, you probably only get your info from the catalog

>>103294995
>>103287848
brown that has to MTL and doesnt know a single kanji

>>103303069
also that store's survey just started. it ends Aug 31.

>>103287049 (OP)
fwmc jp mindshare is fake

>>103295634
That's not impressive...