40k foolery

>>5877003 (OP)
I have only surface level knowledge of WH40k.
Space Marines are super-soldiers, but few in number (like, 1000 per faction or something?)
So, in the grand scheme of things, there really aren't enough of them to protect humanity, are there? Is it mostly up to the regular army (and nun army)?

>>5877043
yeah that's basically the big problem. planets will send ouy distress signals for alien invasions and wont get astartes for like 100 years. planets out number space marines like 1,000 to 1. human colonies are getting constsntly wiped out and fuck if they even know about it given how unreloable communication is.

>>5877043
Whether they deploy at full chapter strength or only send a few hundred or even a few dozen marines, modern Astartes chapters are largely shock assault special forces that strike key elements and positions in support of the larger human armies, which are usually in the upper tens of thousands to tens of millions. During the Great Crusade and Horus Heresy, the original Legions were about 100-200k and were the frontline force, while the millions of human troops were considered auxiliaries. It's still a seemingly low number, but with proper support and logistics, they're so mobile and lethal that even a few thousand marines and their air and armored elements can conquer a world through decapitation strikes. The difference between the 30th and 40th millennium is that that support often isn't there due to the degeneration of logistical and administrative efficacy and siloing of military assets to prevent another Horus Heresy, forcing Marines to be self sufficient and operate on a much smaller scale. They still punch way above their weight, I recommend watching the Astartes miniseries to get an idea of what a small squad can do and then extrapolate that up to an entire chapter or legion size plus air/armor/artillery/orbital support.

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>>5877049
Can loreflags explain to me the Administratum, I recall reading that entire planets can get "lost" in paperwork due to inefficiencies/incompetence, and that some departments have in fact completely outlived their original intent, yet they still operate. How does this even happen, is communication that poor in the Imperium? Does the Administratum not have some department head or ultimate leader that can coordinate things, or is this even attempted?

>>5878727
because the imperium is dealing with hundreds of thousands or maybe millions of planets, all with multiple cities that have hundreds of billions of people each. imagine the amount of paperwork that would get sent everywhere. communication is also terrible, if you want to send a message you basically need to send an email but instead of using the internet you send it through hell and demons can eat the email.

i dont know if it was a fan story or lore but i remember reading that the time keeping part of the imperium had civil war because they couldn't decide on the year, thats the incompetence of leader ship you'll also be dealing with

>>5877067
nta but thanks

>>5878727
My understanding is that the imperiium doesn't have an excel spreadsheet keeping track of this stuff because AI is seen as evil so they don't do computers, really.
So it's all actual paper. Millions and millions of sheets of paper.

>>5878727
setting is grimdark so Administratum is an even shittier version of irl bureaucracy. Add technological degradation and dogmatic thinking on top and you've got scribes believing leather is superior to dataslates because muh tradition

>>5878911
well AI did rebel against mankind so now it stands for Abominable not Artificial Intelligence
iirc machine spirit is kinda poorly defined and there's a lot of arguing if it's just machines going wack or does some of them actually have some sort of sentient/semi-sentient algorithms that actually have to be appeased

>>5878914
>AI did rebel against mankind
Wasn't that due to being corrupted by the warp because super-AI have souls or something?

>>5878916
didn't read as much about that particular period but iirc AI is prone to chaos corruption so big E decided it's safer to ban it outright

>>5878919
There is not much info about the time period because its not even the most important apocalypse event in the dark age of technology. Its just "also robots went skynet+chaos lmao" and GW has done as little as possible to elaborate further.

>>5878933
they'd elaborate if it sold lmao

>>5879021
They have Necrons for anyone that just wants evil terminators.

I'll post what I have

>>5879130

>>5879134
>Captcha: DYNG8

>>5879135

>>5879138
A classic

>>5879130

>>5879037
I want evil super toasters
The kind than invalidate other factions with super science.
But, really, chaos infecting 1s and 0s remains dumb.

>>5877003 (OP)

>>5878603
... Wouldn't 10,000 howls = 20,000 claws?

>>5877005
the Astrate's are only one small element of 40k universe
but still this is pretty much how i see the inside of the emperor mind as he is imprisoned in his eternal throne
half dead
half brainrot

>>5879138
the warp is the most scientifically plausible of the three...

the warp was a network of essentially alien wormholes the emperor learnt how to control.

Someone please post the "I'm still standing" song one, thanks.

>>5877043
theres like a trillion soldiers that are just people that do the main part of the defending
also the nun army, the Sororitas aka my fetishfuel, basically exist because the church wasnt allowed to have Men at arms after a very violent dispute

>>5879506
You're thinking of the webway

>>5878603
>no military threat
Fucking retard.
Iraq launched cruise missiles at a US ship, laid mines, and trained terrorists for DECADES that conducted terroist attacks worldwide, in addition to ignoring UN demands of inspection and buying fucktons of precursor chemicals for chemical weapons. They brought this on themselves, and then for decades doubled down on their retardation.

>>5880537
Yeah you were shaking in your boots alright!

>>5877003 (OP)
what's that dance and song a reference to?

>>5877003 (OP)
so is the Emprah on his way back yet or anything?
i understand that rubout girlyman came back to earth and now rules the humans or something, did he find out anything cool about Emprah?

>>5880806
Emps isn't coming back, he will ascend to godhood. But he can't while his body still physically exists.
I think they'll do what Jesus did and have him ascend to "heaven" body and soul.

>>5881052
>I think they'll do what Jesus did and have him ascend to "heaven" body and soul.
yeh but the problem with that is that his body does have to die for it happen
and when that happens the galaxy falls to chaos

the only salvation is from the starchild.

>>5880537
fuck off with the real world shit gaytard

>>5880759
dunno about the dance, the song is from darktide https://youtu.be/_IiDYh4ai8g?si=cmtq7KPCsWAi1g1x

>>5877014
if you actually had the bravery to act you woudn't need to post webm's like this.

SOON™

>>5881105
>starchild
yeh thats why i asked my original question, i thought the starchild was Emprah's soul or something and it was journeying to earth
so none of that is true and the lore hasnt gone anywhere?

>>5881545
>so none of that is true and the lore hasnt gone anywhere?
Bruh, you're in the kingdom of lies.

anyone have alex jones YOULL NEVER WIN

>>5881672
we don't take requests here

>>5881545
>so none of that is true and the lore hasnt gone anywhere?
well the starchild is real in the lore... sort of.
here is a good video on it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQLdpZepdjQ

Alotta people keep asking about the lore.

40K lore is fucked right now. They've changed alot. They've had multiple different authors write alot. previously the only cannon was the codexes and rule books but at some point they made the Black Library stuff canon too. When they did that it all went to hell just like comic book canon. Some authors ackknowlege some things others don't.

>Starchild
The Sensei were originally the children of the Emperor that he had fucking regular people. He had alot of kids being a fucking immortal being. They were immortal too.

>>5878727
The Administratum are literally the bureaucracy and logistics of the Imperial.
Communication long distances are handled through Psychic messages and can arrive late or before you even sent them. Sometimes never arriving at all. This happens with everything through the warp.

>>5877043
A standard chapter is 1000 Astartes. Some chapters like the Black Templars are overstrength. Some are near extict like the Lamentors


I HIGHLY suggest you stop seriously looking at Lore. They even started retconning core things from the 80s just for political reasons. If you want look up the Fragum Fragem something like that Lore Bible. /tg/ is the place to ask this shit.

There used to be only one race of human. Everyone was like the Spainiards. This made painting easier and GW only needed one type of skin tone. The Only "blacks" literally charcoal black were Salamanders due to gene seed anomaly. There were no asians or whites. All bred out of existence and killed in race wars prior to the Techno Barbarian wars.

>>5881742
>I HIGHLY suggest you stop seriously looking at Lore
This. Just enjoy the space racism.

>>5881672
>>5881699
True, and even though I shouldn't encourage it, I'm stll a softie.

>>5881742
>retconning core things from the 80s just for political reasons
could you drop some examples? I'm mostly watching old videos and haven't heard people talk about it

>>5881742
WH40k has a lot of cool stuff in it, but unfortunately GW is one of the most retarded and greedy companies in existence. You basically have to make your own lore and headcanon at this point and try to ignore any retarded additions (Primaris is the worst for me) the best you can.

>>5877003 (OP)
For me? Sisters of silence. Miss me with that army of ugly, former sex slave, granny looking wannabe space marines.

>>5878603
Iraq was the third largest army in the world thoughbeit. It would be incredibly foolish not to bring your full force to bare just because you think you can do it with less. Even the ancient chinese knew that

>>5881634
Is this what they make people pay for? Jesus it looks like shit

>>5882336
no that's a fan animation

>>5882339
I thought they really locked that down a few years ago. Though of course it's not like they could stop it entirely

>>5882342
That "no fan animation" policy was pure retardation and they never acted on it because GWs execs probably realized that enforcing it was not just impossible but also pointless. Its the kind of thing that a law firm comes up because they want to create more work that they can bill their corporate client for and that executive sign off on because they don't fully understand the costs involved.

>>5881473
Didn't that Space Marine at 0:29 used to be a Lamenter? Or am I going insane?

>>5882749
Yes. He released that segment and some others in the first patreon teaser after the first Astartes was completed and there's some changes.

>>5881672
>anyone have the video of the cat saying meow but it's squidwards voice

>>5877003 (OP)
>emblem nipples
clearly a fetish genre

>>5879506
actual fucking retard
that's the fucking webway, and big E never managed to control it, magnus fucked his effort before it was done
if you're going to get all your information from the wiki, at least be literate enough to understand said wiki

The Lore is just a pick and mix, but my rule of thumb is to disregard anything with the new 40k logo and any 30k stuff.

>>5881290
thx anon, that's a cool song

>>5877003 (OP)
is there a version of this mp4 where he doesn't look back at all and we just have the sister dancing?

>>5881824
>dat booty at 11 seconds

young me replayed that cinematic a lot

>>5885720
no

>>5885824
That's a shame

>>5879138
I think it's best to consider Warp travel as "Traveling through Cthulhu's asshole".

>>5878727
this happens in the real world too.
>granadilla, in spain was lost due to poor communication within the gov made the town evac due to floods when there was none and leading to them permanently closed the township
>argleton in the uk which was a town that never existed but did on offical docs due to clerical oversight.
also arms of government hanging around past their usefullness is a phenomenon the world over
>rural electrification administration was founded to get houses connected to electricity but kept running for years after that giving out random loans dispite everyone already having power

>>5881742
>>5878727
>>5877049
>>5877043
NEVER read lore made after the year 2000

>>5881473
>2 more weeks, bro

GW literally cut off his hands after he leaked this. You'll never get another dose of real astartes

>>5886669
>he leaked this.
its not a leaked trailer

>>5886655
a little extreme but admirable for that

anyone have that old edit of a GW ad?

>>5882336
kill yourself, brother

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>>5880537
Holy shit this is such blatant propaganda. The UN inspections found zero evidence for "weapons of mass destruction" and just happening to violate Iraqi sovereignty, the chemical weapons would do absolutely nothing to US citizens, they fucking hated terrorists and would not allow them in their borders.
It comes down to a small group of Zionists at the very tippy top of the Bush administration who wanted to eliminate Iraq as a threat to Israel. That's it. The rest is propaganda to justify it.

>>5890693
kill yourself fucking earthnigger this is a 40k thread

>>5878891

>>5879130

>>5879138

>>5879175

>>5880537
man
why lie on internet?

>>5890925
This book was incredible, a true outlier for 40k novels. The Youtube movie this guy animated tells the story really well, I highly recommend anybody with a shred of interest in 40k watch it.

>>5892251
agree

>>5884092
not marching in cadence
fucking trash tier

>>5892251
Can't stand the faggy shaky drawings, can't stand the faggy music overpowering the narration, can't stand the sound effects overpowering the narration.

>>5893745
>40k
the bait is real

>>5892268
Maybe they didn't want to? fucking autists

Can someone point me in the right direction? I wanna know where to start with learning about the lore.

>40K lore is fucked right now. They've changed alot. They've had multiple different authors write alot. previously the only cannon was the codexes and rule books but at some point they made the Black Library stuff canon too. When they did that it all went to hell just like comic book canon. Some authors ackknowlege some things others don't.
Which parts of the lore do you guys think here is canon?

>>5877008
kek

>>5894108
aborder prince made an audiobook out of "pawns of chaos" wich is asbsolutely fantastic. dont know if you can still find it on youtube. lore is a grey area, it has been a mishmash of stories since the inception of the hobby. just read/listen to books pre 2010 and you will be good.

>>5894108
just checked his channel out he just recieved a strike and has set all his videos to private :(

>>5894108
all of dan abnetts books and the horus heresy. you can get the horus heresy on piratebay

>>5894107
There is no starting point. Literally just do something like pick a game to play and learn the specific lore about that game's setting and characters. Next game you get into will have some overlap but lots of new stuff. Rinse and repeat, maybe read one of the horus heresy books to get backstory oa a specific chapter's origin story. Maybe some rogue trader era codex and flick through it for vibes. Pick another codex that has a cool cover next.

This is basically how people have been getting into the setting for decades.

>>5894107
Helsreach first, it's one of the best and acts as a standalone.

>>5877010
slaanesh corrupted titan

>>5878891
slavslop

>>5879135
>cult mechanicus across demoralized imperial guard garrison
>roots through his records to find an inspiring speech from one of the imperivms most successful commissars in its long history
>*play*

>>5877043
>is it mostly up to the regular army?
Yes and no. The bulk of the fighting is done by the Imperial Guard and Imperial Navy who number in the trillions, but the Space Marines play a significant role as well. Sometimes they fight separately, sometimes they support each other. An individual space marine chapter may be limited to only ~1000 marines, but considering the power of just a single one of them, 1,000 is a might force to be reckoned with. Also a chapter is not just the marines themselves, each chapter is complete combined arms group with their own spacecraft, ground and air vehicles, and in some cases strategic weapons, so they can fight wherever, whenever, without needing to call for support. Also there are hundreds of space marines chapters spread throughout the Imperium. There is usually at least one space marine chapter in any given Imperial system, or at least in the sub-sector.

>>5878727
one of the first things the emperor's demi-god of bean-counting and paper-pushing found out after being cured and coming out of stasis was the imperium's logistics are so utterly and completely FUCKED by millenia of degradation and warp-travel-time-fuckery that terra doesn't even know WHAT YEAR IT IS. said demigod of bean-counting's best estimate was that it's anywhere from late 40th to early 41st millenia. and his margin for error is in centuries.

>>5881699
>>5881972
>>5883259
its from dawn of war, the edar cutscene vs guard she says we must drive the humans back then alex jones the guardsman says YOULL NEVER WIN i want to watch it but i cant find it

>>5881473
nice AI

>>5894107
unironically read the main rule book if you can, it has the basic beginner roundup

>>5894108
My 40k is most derived from DoW, the Commissar Cain books, and mostly stuff from 1-4th editions.

>>5894443
i was just quoting you because you sound like a big gay homo fag.

>>5877003 (OP)
>>5880759
>>5885997
>>5885720
yes
https://youtu.be/KU5JbCiL2DM?si=_ALfJ29sGbKtXN6n

>>5894611
Bless the Russians. Thanks.

>>5894615
Kill all russians

>>5894885
we're doing pretty well so far

>>5894107
Dawn of War

>>5877067
That's why Imperial Armour books worked so well. The Guard deploy en masse and occasionally some big shot SM chapter rolls in destroys a vital shipping port or fuel supply and fucks back off to somewhere else. That one strike however lets the guard ultimately win. Contrary to all the trailers and promos SM chapters very rarely deploy as an entire chapter.

>>5883269
god did this creator turn into an utter fagoot

>>5890921
if all the Sisters are supposed to be celibate why are they hot as fuck and have big titties

>>5896677
To bad, he's right, stay mad yiff fag, go suck more gay workshit cock by buying their overpriced plastic armymen

>>5894885
Putin is doing that well enough on his own.

>>5896680
The emperor wills it.

>>5880537
>mutt indoctrination
Pfffft, we are laughing at you not with you

>>5878914
>>5878911
literal Dune ripoff

>>5896490

[spoiler]Except when they get raped by a militia of literal whos and some Hydra boys[/spoiler]

>>5896680
>if all the Sisters are supposed to be celibate
they are not

>>5896854
ifdDune is the only thing you think 40k ripped off your are a scrub.

>>5896854
that's the magic of the game

>>5890905
Please post decent AI slop if you're gonna post AI slop

I've always thought this shit looked cool, there used to be a store near me I would look in the window and just nope. Fat balding neck beards or skinny fat greasy looking pale dudes.

What's the best way to get into the lore? I don't want to collect

>>5898124
>proceeds to post complete shit

>>5879371
hopefully we'll get more BEHNBLADE posting with the remake

>>5898326
Either pick a faction and start reading their books, play some of the games, or watch some youtube videos about it. 40k has exploded in popularity in recent years where even vtubers are into it now. I recommend the Cain and Gaunt books since I personally don't like spess muhreens and need muh guardsmen. Also please keep in mind that literally everything in the setting is written so james workshop can sell more plastic so don't take it too seriously. The last time I was in a 40k thread on /tg/ there were two autists going on multi-paragraph rants back and forth arguing about if necron ships had ftl drives or some shit.

>>5896934
then why wont they have sex with me or my self-inserts

ASTARTES
https://youtu.be/JpK4fcFNKbM

>>5878727
>that some departments have in fact completely outlived their original intent
Just like the ATF

>>5898124
Why do people get so triggered by AI lol

>>5902304
Read Hyperion to understand why