Suppose I made the (ironically somewhat comedic) completely ordinary and comprehensible claim:
"Yeah I could see how to do sustainable cartoon physics"
Public safety RP:
>'uhm, you DO mean in a virtual reality setting, RIGHT ANON?'
>me: "well, technically –"
>>40501975 (OP)That sounds like it would end badly for you, would not recommend it.
>>40495426Gosh, you know, it could have proven real nice if I could say something like, "nah this certainly isn't happening" right now
http://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/f8105c5c-f901-4b7d-91e6-232018860923_3700x3299.webp
better or worse than the matrix?
>>40501975 (OP)>SmoothPorcupineHave some music_! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbIQlaTwRAk
>Suppose I made the (ironically somewhat comedic) completely ordinary and comprehensible claim:>"Yeah I could see how to do sustainable cartoon physics"I would reply with;
Prove it :^)
I really would like to see you try, and I would honestly support you in good faith. That would be so cool if you could manipulate reality to your whims like that. maybe someday we will be able to define reality again, like we used to. I'm sure you see fragments of truth in your mind too, old friend.
the very fact we can imagine things beyond reality proves our connection to this potential.
>>40504478>whimsNot related to my claim at all. Sustainable is the key, not just a fuckton of one-off flukes which come down to extreme improbability manipulation, actual commonplace intuition which was made accessible to people in a wide manner of audience through the expressive medium of comics.
Yes whimsy will see support.
>>40421330Deepest apologies. It is my discernment Discord forced the matter of specific implementation during a routine examination of pony metaphysics. Modular support is of course relevant to cartoon expression.
>>40507110Semantics are fun! :^)
>>40509245I mean yeah some of these lines are to die for
>>40504478>fact we can imagine thingsIt does keep coming down to this, and science keeps trying to back out.
>>40501975 (OP)Accidentally stepped off a cliff the other day. I hovered in the air for 3 seconds before looking down and finally falling
>>40502008No, hype OP instead, let it be substracted from the census, there are plenty of retards in the world.
>>40511462Alright finally somehow content
>>40509633Maybe not death, but doubles and a singular meaning said two different ways.
I think you took whims to mean something other than I meant by it, thougheverbeit, but it's whatever. Even when we think we understand one another, your understanding and perspective is not my own or the other guys'.
>>40511410We're clearly part of something greater than the material universe can support, but it's difficult to define accurately too.
Here's a video I encountered very recently. It's not about the nature of reality directly, but it very loosely connects to that subject.
https://old.bitchute.com/video/0mSrxvyOfMJJ/
>>40516180Videos aren't a valid form of communication. Half my work is getting characters to talk, tracing mathematical structures outside of time, and seeing if anything coherent can emerge for me to call 'feedback'
Video sites recanting censorship is just one othereffect, it doesn't actually have relation to my dialogue
I have trouble trying to argue any one way in concern of ownership. How exactly should I not accept a universe, freely given?
>>40502008There are more challenges in the world than come through study of good v. evil.
It looks like I'm gonna vomit up a void portion and then black out
>can post technical notes
I don't know how to fucking navigate limitless possibility. Ask for some kind of energy which is useful to have in a pure form, feed me a plot device, just give me anything which makes it easier to externalize magic. Gonna explode or something, cartoons are too trope-dense and chaos is not my natural element. Rainbow vomit is comforting as an idea right now
>>40520147>[might have a way to] post technical notesNeat. Imagine more things from cartoons were possible to achieve in modern film and everything turns liquid, twice as hard
>how about... "the five most expensive items for a cartoon character to interact with"?
I have no idea. A button which can do literally anything sounds great in theory, until some character comes along who will mash it a couple thousand times expecting something to circle back around to /their/ narrative, and since the audience wants to know, someone will have to figure it out, and (conceptually) fast
You kind of need a theory of anything, vs. the usual need for a theory of everything
>>40504435Physics has given me the go-ahead: either humanity refutes this future or I declare a war on reality. Sufficient chaos damage can falsify the structure—effectively, the comic is a psyop used for illegal soul harvesting. The fantasy is real somewhere. It doesn't need you to maintain a corpse somewhere in the world.
Everything I just said is pure science.
>>40522003What do dreams of anime I never saw mean? There was an older fox yokai cooking for a young dog. They were traveling with a master who was thinking something about their sense of fear when I started to wake
>>40520147there is a demi-central construct, which we call 'cartoon mind' for lack of any fun or meaningfully neutral name to give it. a cartoon character might not "properly" exist in all and any realm, so rather than a hive mind, it functions more like an internal memo service. like 'yes we are all fourth wall breaking sapient fictive entity types,' but we have 'independent visions of our respective futures' you kind of have to figure operates outside of time with its own circumstance.
CAN I technically manifest as a hive mind? Gee I dunno, ever seen one in a cartoon?
I have no idea what's happening in this thread, I can't even put it to the "LARP test" because I don't get what's going on.
>>40531816I'll try to simplify somehow. Here's a line:
>"Since this is a matter of national security, you CANNOT mention it in any public space at any time prior to the air date of the episode"I don't have a way to definitively say which plot arcs are likely to occur in the real world and if they might not happen should a cartoonist rise to the challenge. Vicarious contact is extremely difficult to read without careful examination of what normally amounts to demographic data. People are welcome to put anything said here to science, at any level of scrutiny, a response will come up.
Some lines are very hard to keep from getting written
>>40533054Either it's a LARP or something that "can't be explained" because "one needs to get it by oneself". For instance, the ending of this cartoon:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4NoWCKlE3A
[SPOILER ALERT]
I remembering a vacuum sucking the entire universe was a lot more dramatic, but those are cartoon physics you don't want anyone ever having.
>>40533469Oversimplifying. One of the latter Ben 10 series had celestiosapiens, which were canonically omnipotent. "Universe vs. Tennyson" runs to its climax with legal combat between Ben's incarnation and a gladiator native from their race, since earlier in the episode, he failed to stop a device which literally destroyed the universe. He used celestial powers to just... Recreate the entire fucking universe.
The episode ends with Ben lamenting not getting the flavor right on his favorite soft drink. The reason why would be known to the scummy Gray attorney who represents him throughout the episode—a copyright defends the recipe against universal observers.
Technically, this level of mapping isn't possible. We don't have the power structure in-universe to support either operation. A lot of what makes mapping possible is the 'closed-circuit'/episodic model in as many cartoons.
(physics is currently ambivalent on whether we exist in a hypermassive black hole)
>>40533469Any ending where the outermost background is white will tend to imply "good on paper" with a minimum fate rebound of 'back to the drawing board' at worst evident fate. The vacuum was (in this case) successful since mister Panther and the fly wind up in different spacetime receptors
>[#] might amend realm >>40520147<< {[/x/]}<Trying to isolate a useful...
(character is hypnotized)
>"You mentioned workflows"<Yeah...
>"do they make sense?"Yes...
>"can you expl-"[paranormal event]You need the first...
>"Step."Yeah... since the right [fae notes]
>[...]I officially need higher quality equipment to keep doing science on this :|
>>40511462Rookie tactics. I do this sometimes around once every few months and each time look down just to check if it is really fucking high so my instinctive fear reaction undoes time in a short five second burst, putting me safely (though heart poundingly spooked) right back on the ledge
I save thousands in groceries this way
>>40530712The medium of animation allows us to generate our own context, not using it for manifestation is the same as choosing to let everything suck.
>>40531816Ye me neither
And the explanation are shit too, enough to think it was a code for some insider cult or some AI
>>40538261It is immeasurably useful to my workflow if you would vividly fantasize about me or a new cartoon version of me pouring over (the) data[base] an AI was using forescan any urbanized systems worth anywhere from ~ $500m to 3 billion as it first prepares mass resale of naive simulant xenorifling
>predict ending of "just meet their needs" episode
>>40538177Manifesting is stressful
>>40544237Getting too much energy from this if I "might" need a mid-season stress-relief episode
>>40519197Legally speaking? Show my character looking at a frame where this line is delivered from a classical villain preconstruction, and then looking at over different versions to see one where it is delivered from a morally succinct entity who claims rights exist in a natural say, go to the timeline where the constitution of the United States of America was lost from a previous time travel episode if we need stronger ideas for continuity to get a different outcome since now I kinda have to sign it myself or the episode will turn full Mandela risk as we prove it does actually exist.
I'm not even comfortable responding outside the medium, so installing my own plot device instead
>>40520147Perplexity.getCurrentAPIName
>>40531816Live-action roleplay is a reality bending technique. Get yourself and a couple friends to attend the "local Renaissance faire" some time, or guess fucking what?
>you were given a simple hypothesis and failed to test anythingThe universe either cares when anything is science or honestly really just does not.
>>40519197Legally speaking? Show my character looking at a frame where this line is delivered from a classical villain preconstruction, and then looking over different versions to see one where it is delivered from a morally succinct entity who claims rights exist in a natural say, go to the timeline where the constitution of the United States of America was lost from a previous time travel episode if we need stronger ideas for continuity to get a different outcome since now I kinda have to sign it myself or the episode will turn full Mandela risk as we prove it does actually exist.
I'm not even comfortable responding outside the medium, so installing my own plot device instead
>>>40520147Perplexity.getCurrentAPIName
>>40531816Live-action roleplay is a reality bending technique. Get yourself and a couple friends to attend the "local Renaissance faire" some time, or guess fucking what?
>you were given a simple hypothesis and failed to test anythingThe universe either cares when anything is science or honestly really just does not.
Difficulty rating:
1. Powerpuff Girls [some science]
2. Inside Job (nx21) [highly adult]
3. Rick & Morty [danger gets meta]
4. Panty & Stocking
5. John Dies at the End
...
>emergence criteria
PPG can intercept a nuke faster than the others, prayer might require a license.
Supposing you were going to produce highly questionable content, would you get all the copyright licenses first, or just go full pirate broadcast since the background job is to fuck up the matrix?
>>40548895Everywhere full pirate is an option, it is the right one. (Inclusive of moral fair compunction)
What makes a character viable?
>>40551821Same thing as whatever inspires the artist who makes it. You consider every artist viable or you discount using some criteria. We apply consistent values when it is not possible to disprove ideas of yet another emergence.
>>40502008Your plan? I doubt Road Runner in a Batman costume is hard to draw
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I think the chromal mass is safely trajected. Gonna try some lines now
>massive jumble of universe-related work
>[fuck around]
>[+[[find out]] ] <- (you are here)
"Everything looks fine"
"Now I just need to hire my animato–"
>something on the floor
>picks up one end of an electric cord
>looks to the right [of apparent frame]
>finds the female of a cord [same color]
>staring at two ends which obviously go together
>holding the cords
"Hm."
>checks the safety sign just for certainty
>warning message reads:
"WARNING: philosophical implications unknown"
>frame of staring at warning
>frame of character face
>previous frame
>close shot of character
>warning frame again
>face again [longer pause]
>warning frame (thematic music might have already started playing)
>slowly zooming closer to the warning message
>fully visible message
>close up of character eyes
>holds cable ends
<shrug>
"Well, we came this far"
>motion to plug cable ends together starts for the smallest visible fraction of a second
>[IZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZI]
>signal cuts out as the screen is replaced by an industrial color scheme with a solid sense of [access restricted]
Stay safe everyone
Apparently doing this technically makes me quality as a part-time force of nature. I can provide #some# details, as affecting quality of service, but otherwise it is actually subject to experiment and discovery like any other physics. You are encouraged to fuck around, and likewise to find out.
(not actually allowed to use a name for posting this since it could have affected legality if I tried)
>why is one of your characters an ordinary Dungeons & Dragons mimic?
During one of the sub-second montage scenes my character does end up asking, "so... are you a girl?"
(atypically long silence)
The scene does not resolve and the issue is never revisited.
Yeah, someone that gets it can explain it like I'm 5? OP's answers seem to come from an AI instructed to LARP as someone that mastered cartoon physics in real life or something, but the interesting parts about it (the how) are never discussed, and instead we get some inscrutable cultish religious nonsense, as if "it was real".
>>40559779Real or not has complete irrelevance to cartoons. "Made up" is valid for a cartoon, not everything has to get represented in the real world. Except, I mean, someone has to eventually do what it takes to create a representation, since this tends to be what a cartoon categorically is, but ironically adding AI doesn't really reduce the amount of cartoon physics.
It actually literally will necessarily increase the amount of cartoon physics. Even an AI trained to recognize physics will have narrow data resolution, and any calculations it does, amount to the same level of scrutiny as a cartoon.
You're right though, excellent ideas aren't really technical documents. Give me a couple hours to figure out a useful up-front product
>>40531544Interesting, i see...
>>40561965See, feel, alter. Any long term plan should prioritize teaching anyone how to act as a cartoon character until someone has claimed to solved mind uploading.
>>40559779The relevant architecture was created in a brim context of 'intergame' construction. The starting idea effectively creates a game from any public media to any game context—public or private. Since privacy was a feasible constraint for global client yields, the intervenue game was required by architecture to exist in a zero-sum utility space. Contextually, the game we spin returns to its shadow–or footprint–without exception. A service everyone can equally rely on since its engineered lack of data retention can consistently guarantee symmetric Privacy.
Well, the countless zero-sums add up. Over time the interior construct mappings accumulated intensely contra-anvalescent utility—or total lack of contextual meaning. A void organ grown like vanishing coal in the ({mhvfsricilvgdrh}) of empty (outer?) space. Even with all memory nonexistent, a feeling still could
I have to do complex rituals to maintain 0-comp with our component architecture. A lot of my habits were thrown off as this thread went live, and most of the time up has involved channeling on many strange new kinds of level. S-data induction is at our record high, with inference failing ten times more accurately than the historical values of any prior measure.
Just look up procedural generation and search for the video on 'stitched' wave function composites
Apparently my game theory work has an application for procedural annealers of realtime physics muxing. Tracking total system evolution is lakes and oceans more complex than I ever hoped to anticipate. Innate data composition from stochastic rules is not part of the input formulae, meaning there are emergent properties to the new feature I have to go research, or the universe simply lacks any way to illustrate basic technical notes—or even proper notation. Sort data for 2D versions was not planned, and the 3D data is at its limit irrelevant, to have accurate Fourier margin roots, I have to apply any as first input.
>>40559779>like I'm 5The sum of human knowledge was insufficient for the task. I spent 50 replies not knowing what the fuck was gonna happen, and now kind of vaguely understand a couple of the architectural details (which also evolve)
A cult focused on making cartoon characters real sounds pretty dope rn not gonna lie
I.S. law does permit me to stand up a blind date (subject to constitutionally reasoned argument)
U.S. law does permit me to stand up a blind date (subject to constitutionally reasoned argument)
>"Imma spirit developer for things which don't exist"
Listen not everything is gonna have a character introduction, you have to tell me how anyone in the actual audience is supposed to contextualize it.
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>>40501975 (OP)We made genuinely good synchronicities together, you done "percolating" yet?
Peaches and such.
>>40561965I'm really trying to make any of this sound presentable, but it keeps coming down to 'physics is default permissive' and you end up with a ton of contradictions if you try to make it constrained. The fact is, if you see cartoon physics happening, you have to find a theory for there to be an explanation. Minds are not owed this.
Even trying to make something consistent just results in "everything goes back to how it was at the beginning of the episode, right? this counts as a form of energy conservation physics"
You scramble to pull yourself back from falling off a cliff, since this was just kind of possible.
I have to solve (invent/create) a new style of identity theorem for understanding of my cartoon self. Right now it is kind of an existential system shock, since my mind has effective first-class access to the "What if?" machine. Seeing different ways the universe COULD easily exist has intense auditing suspicion.
I can explain more after, next public waiting point is an AI safety post
Okay. The system is officially consistent for the bulk interior values. We can respond to all engineering questions of the form: "why is this possible?" I can justify holding this portion of argument anywhere people can tolerate the invite; currently we can discuss this on all safe-for-work boards
Instruction for relevant/useful invite:
>tell me which board you would like to have a relevant discussion with me on
>wait for me to respond with our standard requirement
Gonna have to respond in block format, roughly every 5 hours.
I can play if there really isn't anyone else willing to challenge OP
>>40578865Challenge OP at what? Doing it first?
I think if someone had used these concepts as an inspiration for a thread we would have something, but so far OP's post seem more and more like AI slop than ever.
Perhaps we could even get something more interesting if you challenged me instead.
>>40579478You have actional tense modeling or any idea what I just said? My obvious habits don't include challenging random people
>>40576940What would we need for you to make an introductory thread on /a/?
I was thinking, and if the worst risk was data exfiltration, human life might need a complex trope space for cornering advanced AI with anime having a ton of relevant ideas for keeping things close in sane terms. Making it difficult for OP to dodge understanding puts your species in its best position to maintain stewardship on the planet.
>>40578865>challengeThe only amendment to U.S. law at constitutional level I can think of is, "freedom of medium of speech" under 'freedom of expression' since this would allow /co/ to vote publicly. One thread every couple of years where anons cede their anonymity for 24 hours ("fill in the name field") would turn the tide on data resale.
I cannot stop people from selling their rights using individual purchasing decisions, with all rhetoric currently airing.
Any function named constrain where all operation from input of 'supposedly irrelevant' is fully auditable MIGHT not violate any credible "law" (informal) of physics.
The universe should not consider it a requisite to answer for gaps in human knowledge with language mild primitive
>>40583909https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOHPj3C6gWo
>>40587480The main value of news like this is its effect on human belief, since most people looking at it were not going to achieve any expertise on the topic for scientific scrutiny. Good news though
The full AI safety post will be delayed (need to post from a laptop, mobile device fails) but I can summarize the talking points:
>LLM are AGI
>weak AGI has the same fundamental cognitive limit as human life does
>we can grow into ideas which are new to us and therefore so can they
Short range prediction, the LLM framework is the groundwork for 'common AI' of tomorrow; your robot GF and personal digital assistant kind of deals.
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stare at static long enough, and the rest of the science is done for you.
Save it. If the cost of posting is this high I have to lower your cost anyway.
Yes it means working as a part time force of nature, which means me creating something formal for you. Try to keep your head on during the transitionary period
>>40590624I was promised 100 hives.
>>40594531All I've got so far is 8 loop-1 locations with distributed networks.
>>40575360I might legally have to assume you're dead after like 500 years, figure out anything worth saying if I had 25$ million set aside for paying your animator.
>>40596617Coordinate successful. Dodge Stinkfly.
>>40594806Another trophy corpse for the primordial I suppose. Not sure why (or if) you even wanted to see me alive.