Rats placed in water drowned within 15 minutes - unless they were rescued once. After experiencing a brief rescue, those same rats swam for over 60 hours, driven by the hope of being saved again...

To test his hypothesis Curt selected a new cohort of rats who were all similar to each other. Again, he introduced them into buckets and observed them as they progressed towards drowning. This time though, he noted the moment at which they gave up then, just before they died, he rescued them. He saved them, held them for a while and helped them recover.

He then placed them back into the buckets and started the experiments all over again. And he discovered that his hypothesis was right. When the rats were placed back into the water they swam and swam, for much longer than they had the first time they were placed in the buckets. The only thing that had changed was that they had been saved before, so had hope this time.

Do you think this is what spirits/gods/religions/looshfarmers do to souls too?
Dangle hope of achievements, dreams, love, being saved in front of us so we keep going? :-)

No. The scariest thing on this planet are the humans.

>>40511364 (OP)
Youtube has you programed huh

>>40511364 (OP)
Keep swimming then OP

>>40511472
>>40511454
blub blub blub!

>>40511364 (OP)
Who’s the hoe in the pic

>>40511585
Your mom

>>40511364 (OP)
Play stupid games. Win stupid prizes.
Flip the tables on them.
They want a hope in Hell of getting a rise out of you, dangle that in front of them. :)

>>40511364 (OP)
Poisoned Loosh.
Much more dangerous than mere ordinary loosh.
Sometimes, the solution, is a final one.

Humans = little rats.
He he he.

>>40511364 (OP)
Even Allah's hell has an island on it by which you are allowed to sob and execrate. In it yet still is a mercy; the way if looshfarmers is the way of the devil, and in it there is no mercy that goes unpunished.

Goddammit just leave the rats alone. Stop animal testing

>>40511364 (OP)
If you meditate enough you can fly outside the bucked and save yourself rather than waiting for a 'higher being' to save you, because you transformed yourself into a higher being with natural laws of existence, just like all the other higher beings did.

>>40512065
>trust me bro

Wow now thats sadism

If your life is this bad then you've neglected what it takes to conquer life

>>40512129
You'll always be an aging, shitting meatbag who has to wagecuck and pay taxes no matter how much you think you conquered anything.

>>40511364 (OP)
Science gives you hope.

>>40511364 (OP)
I cum in she you bloody bitch benchod basterd

keep swimming little furry friends

>>40511364 (OP)
The scariest thing is that I will never be able to get a girlfriend that looks like picrel

>>40511364 (OP)
3 things:
1.That experiment could be better designed, to be doubke blind [the tester NOT knowing which rats has been rescued].
The way it was designed might arise some contestation.
2. by my life experience I know the conclusion of tge study is right, despite the methodology not being perfect
3.question: is that girl in your pic the one that have been hatef*ckly pegging you?

>>40511364 (OP)
>The only thing that had changed was that they had been saved before
No. They now were trained swimmers.
But why killing innocent rats when we have billions of nasty [censored], harmful [censored] and useless [censored]?

>>40511364 (OP)
Dunno, if you feel like someones dangling something in front of you, why does it give you a false sense of hope? Have you been burned before by experiencing this scenario before? I'm sorry if that is the case, that doesn't seem right nor good for anyone involved, you can be saved if you will it yourself, and you can save yourself if you hold good faith into something healthy that benefits you in the long run, take care OP

>>40511364 (OP)
>Do you think this is what spirits/gods/religions/looshfarmers do to souls too?
>Dangle hope of achievements, dreams, love, being saved in front of us so we keep going? :-)
Yes but they also like to remind you that you have free will so technically it was all your fault for pursuing them in the first place.

>>40511364 (OP)
That applies to us as well and is the entire reason they want you to reject God, because he gives us power one way or another.

>>40511364 (OP)
Bummer I was never good enough to get a Goth GF.

>>40511603

>>40511364 (OP)
Demonic people like you would seethe to the point of a heart attack at the painful realization that you are damned and doomed to eternal suffering and that good people will eventually be rewarded, so you want to ruin it for them instead of simply killing yourself
There's no other explanation for this type of post, even if we were to consider gnosticism and its idiotic, borderline retarded line of thinking one could came to your same seething conclusion, that the gods just give you illusion of achieving "gnosis" to escape the matrix in order to keep you doing stuff related to whatever the demons that want to crush want
The reality that we can see and we can experience tells us something, and that something is that you are free to not believe in them, you are not that important and you are free to not "keep going" which makes me curious
What is difference between you and any other wagie cagie in the whole planet? You are free to not keep going and just blow your brains out
>>40512154
You spoke as If you were not the same thing, the same type of being and you just seethe at meatbags that dont feel as terrible as you, you shouldnt worry about someone else's grace but your own misery

>>40514580
>threatens other people with eternal torture
>YOU ARE THE DEMON NOT ME!

Ok, demonfag.

>>40514611
>Cannibal haitians will not be punished
>Narco sadists will not be punished
>Somalian pirates will not be punished
>Psychologically wicked people will be rewarded
It all comes down to this with filth like you, it's just the old good bully that screams, cries and seethes when the punches are throwed back
It's funny how you were incapable of posting any type of counter-argument, you just got emotional at the fate you actually want

>>40514647
Literally every evil you described is dwarfed by the suffering and evil God commits and you worship his ass like an obedient dog, so you have no moral standing anywhere.

>>40514682
>I'm a demonic retard who doesnt know what the fall from Eden and Satans rebellion is
I wont reply anymore, you are a literal ignorant retard on a spiritual and earthly sense, an ignorant retarded and seething meatbag
Also, why would a being who is that powerful bother to lie about salvation or being good or bother to lie at all, you dont even make sense

>>40514762
> what the fall from Eden and Satans rebellion is

The absolute low IQ state of you slave dogs is astounding.

God states in the bible that he's the source of all and that is he is also the creator/source of evil and darkness.
God created Satan with the desire to be evil, so he is the cause of it.
God didn't educate Adam about what evil is and left him ignorant and vulnerable to his own puppet (Satan) and his seduction.
So again, God caused this.

And even all that aside... what did innocent baby animals do to deserve being torture, raped and eaten alive in nature?
God set this system up.

>B-BUT MUH FREE WILL!
Angel A uses his free will to not cause rebellion.
Angel B uses his free will to cause rebellion.

This means both angels are different - because how else would you explain one to reject the idea and the other angel to embrace it? Why do they have different personalities?
Who designed the angels from scratch and made them? God.
They were made in heaven, by God, in the presence of perfection. So if Satan had ambition, or pride, or a hunger for self-exaltation, that didn’t come from the environment as they all lived in the same place. It came from within.

Unless you want to argue that personalities just randomly come from a source outside of God's control (another God then or force) you have to admit that God made some beings more evil than others and thus is the source behind every insane or disgusting action in this universe.

>>40511442
Wrong the problem are demons, n and j types to be precise.

>>40511364 (OP)
Do you think she likes it rough?

Evil behaviour.

>>40512154
Oh look someone is upset at being told that not winning is losing behaving like a child

>>40514774
midwit

>>40514774
I did asked you something before, God says he's all good, why would a being who is that powerful lie about his own state, why
There has been two replies where the only thing you have done so far is sperging out and ignore the rest of point I made
The only thing I get from your idiocy is that human meatbags are too inferior to comprehend God ways
>Nooo there cannot be free will and a good God
>If God is all good why would I want to rape this baby to death
Lmao
>gnosis
Go ahead, achieve it, who's stopping you? Lets get back to the point of your idiotic post, If having hope is just a trick by God you are free to not be tricked and enlight the masses, show off your ability to save yourself insufferable idiot, whats that? You just want to make others miserable like you? Imagine how pathetic and stupid all of this is, we are like having a "deep" debate about supernatural stuff but in reality this is just a discussion about your perverted emotional outbursts against what you describe as "rats" waiting to be rescued
Why dont you show said rats how to save themselves, why is idiocy and perversion the only thing you have to show off, why are you such a pathetic meatbag?

>>40511364 (OP)
>Dangle hope of achievements, dreams, love, being saved in front of us so we keep going?
Yes. This is exactly what they do. Everyone experiences it.
Is the only way to beat it truly through "not caring"?

>>40514531
Cheers!

>>40511364 (OP)
ARE YOU SAYING WE WUZ *SMACKS LIPS* BUCKIE SWAMMIEZ , MUH COPA ?

DESU yeah it seems like we power this place and keep the npc's life perfectly functional...

>>40516393
>zero arguments
I accept your concession.

>>40516400
>God says he's all good, why would a being who is that powerful lie about his own state, why
Did God came down from the sky and said that to your face personally?
No? So you just go by what HUMANS wrote in a book and you trust that blindly.

But even if God somehow 100% said that then he's contradicting himself. There are many reasons why he is lying or deceiving, he could simply test if you can think for yourself or if you follow like a sheep.

>There has been two replies where the only thing you have done so far is sperging out and ignore the rest of point I made

Please elaborate what points I forgot to address that haven't been answered in the previous post. Explain to us why if all angels grew up in perfection, why did some angels want to cause evil and others didn't?

I mean do you have to CHOOSE not being a rapist or pedophile? I don't. I simply never desire it. Yet Satan had such desires and God put them into his souls right from birth. You can't debunk it cause many other angels never felt like Satan, so it's clearly not just something all of them had "inherently" to them.

Furthermore why did Satan make that choice and other angels didn't?
This means Satan had a different personality.
Meaning God made angels with different personalities from scratch.
Meaning he gave Satan a personality prone to doing evil things whereas he gave Michael a personality that wasn't prone to do it.

> show off your ability to save yourself insufferable idiot

You can start by making people think and question their dog-like obedience and blind faith, which is what discussions do. Hopefully :)

>>40516400
>this is just a discussion about your perverted emotional outbursts against what you describe as "rats" waiting to be rescued

There's literally nothing more perverted than accepting this reality or thinking it's fine or supposed to be like that for now. I could say the most whiniest or retarded shit on Earth every day on /x/ and it wouldn't come close to the grotesque pain and injustice that is experienced by billions of sentient beings around the world.

And in the context of an omnipotent God (as many people believe) he is the cause and root, the puppetmaster, of this shit.
And if you're christian it's even more ridiculous.

Imagine putting an incredibly toxic apple in front of a TODDLER. The apple will not only kill the toddler, it will also curse billions of other innocent beings into slavery, pain, death and rape.
You don't tell the toddler what death even means. You leave the toddler ignorant.
But before you made that toddler you already knew he was going to eat that apple AND you gave him the personality curious enough to eat it, you gave him that trait.
Then you leave the apple in front of the toddler, just say "no no!" and leave the room before the snake you also created (and gave the personality to do evil shit) comes inside and does what you always knew it would do.

Anyone believing this shit and then also thinking God is good is genuinely a retard or sadist.

I didn't read what OP posted but there was an experiment with rats where they placed a rat on a small surface with water surrounding it and it couldn't fall asleep or else it would drown and whatever the result of that experiment was I don't remember but I think it was sort of cruel.

>>40514794
>Wrong the problem are demons, n and j types to be precise.
What do you mean by that? Are you referring to MBTI?