Anonymous
6/11/2025, 11:11:41 PM No.40513384
So are ghosts and spirits the same thing or not? Clear out the ambiguity for me.
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Anonymous
6/11/2025, 11:23:26 PM No.40513458
Ghost:
Etymology: From Old English gฤst, related to Old High German geist and Gothic us-gaisjan ("to terrify").
Sound and Feel: Heavy consonants, stark vowels. Ghost feels like a breath in a cold church. It's a northern word, made of stone and fog, evoking forests, cathedrals, moors, and ruin.
Spirit: Scholastic, Elemental
Etymology: From Latin spiritus - "breath," "air," or "soul," from spirare, "to breathe."
Sound and Feel: Lighter, more abstract. Spirit is a word of books, cathedrals, laws, and doctrine. Itโs the word priests and poets use.
Etymology: From Old English gฤst, related to Old High German geist and Gothic us-gaisjan ("to terrify").
Sound and Feel: Heavy consonants, stark vowels. Ghost feels like a breath in a cold church. It's a northern word, made of stone and fog, evoking forests, cathedrals, moors, and ruin.
Spirit: Scholastic, Elemental
Etymology: From Latin spiritus - "breath," "air," or "soul," from spirare, "to breathe."
Sound and Feel: Lighter, more abstract. Spirit is a word of books, cathedrals, laws, and doctrine. Itโs the word priests and poets use.
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Anonymous
6/12/2025, 1:18:26 AM No.40514080
Bible-wise, the words by themselves may indeed convey different meanings depending on context, but yes, generally speaking, they're the same.
Anonymous
6/12/2025, 1:29:19 AM No.40514142
>>40513384 (OP)
>Clear out the ambiguity for me.
Spirit is immutable/incorruptible as contrasting to matter that is mutable/corruptible
The intermediary between these two natures is the soul/anima, that is initially mutable but can 'learn'/elevate itself [with help or not, droends on the tradition] to closer to thr nature of the spirit.
In general the [individual] ghost is conflated with the anima, and ghost as abstract/collective, the spirit
>Clear out the ambiguity for me.
Spirit is immutable/incorruptible as contrasting to matter that is mutable/corruptible
The intermediary between these two natures is the soul/anima, that is initially mutable but can 'learn'/elevate itself [with help or not, droends on the tradition] to closer to thr nature of the spirit.
In general the [individual] ghost is conflated with the anima, and ghost as abstract/collective, the spirit
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Anonymous
6/12/2025, 1:41:13 AM No.40514201
Anonymous
6/12/2025, 7:37:16 AM No.40516244
>>40513458
>You have summoned the Casper of ghostly explanations
There is no such THING as ghosts, it is a psycho-word to explain what is unknown.
Spirits are liqour, certain calories, electricity floating around.
>You have summoned the Casper of ghostly explanations
There is no such THING as ghosts, it is a psycho-word to explain what is unknown.
Spirits are liqour, certain calories, electricity floating around.
Anonymous
6/12/2025, 7:39:24 AM No.40516253
>>40513384 (OP)
Both can be "loaded terms or words". Ghost usually implies a spirit bound to a singular location. Spirit is what remains after death, or what inhabits the body during life.
Both can be "loaded terms or words". Ghost usually implies a spirit bound to a singular location. Spirit is what remains after death, or what inhabits the body during life.
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Anonymous
6/12/2025, 7:43:16 AM No.40516277
>>40516253
*Or, i could say most people usually relate to a ghost as being a stranded, or trapped spirit. While spirit alone is usually bound to a body, or free after death.
That's how I know the words. My view.
*Or, i could say most people usually relate to a ghost as being a stranded, or trapped spirit. While spirit alone is usually bound to a body, or free after death.
That's how I know the words. My view.
Anonymous
6/12/2025, 7:43:48 AM No.40516283
>>40513384 (OP)
Spirits comprise of things as a whole, while ghost would be manes/lemures
Spirits comprise of things as a whole, while ghost would be manes/lemures
S
6/12/2025, 7:57:56 AM No.40516344
>>40513384 (OP)
Spirits are like a soul but not a soul. Ghosts are spirits of souls in the material world. I think literally everything has a spirit, but if souls are real and who has them is debated. I think it's possible from a materialistic atheist perspective even that everything has a soul, and obviously souls can be real in less skeptical schools of thought. Even some mystical traditions deny the idea of a soul though.
Spirits are like a soul but not a soul. Ghosts are spirits of souls in the material world. I think literally everything has a spirit, but if souls are real and who has them is debated. I think it's possible from a materialistic atheist perspective even that everything has a soul, and obviously souls can be real in less skeptical schools of thought. Even some mystical traditions deny the idea of a soul though.
S
6/12/2025, 7:58:57 AM No.40516347
>>40513405
Spirits can die but they can also be resurrected or reincarnated. I think.
Spirits can die but they can also be resurrected or reincarnated. I think.
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Anonymous
6/12/2025, 8:39:47 AM No.40516457
>>40513384 (OP)
Colloquially, can be. Sticking to real terms, no. Ghosts are dead people. Spirits can be any entity with a degree of consciousness that is astral or energetic.
If you want to be very strict about things when considering if calling upon some old dead person is a spirit or ghost, think of it like this. Everybody's spirit-self, your soul, resides around for a while after you die. After a while, you leave and reincarnate or go to some higher place. If someone "summons" you, you are not there anymore to summon. However, people can still call upon you anyways. This is because every spirit leaves an impression of sort into reality, a memory imprinted on the universe so to speak. People with greater impacts in life can leave a stronger residue, a stronger impression of themselves upon reality. And it is that impression, empty of the actual person, which is called upon.
Think of it in taoist lingo, yang is "you" as the self and yin is this memory-impression. At some point, yang dissipates leaving behind yin. Most fresh ghosts have yang still in them, the person, which can be helped. Only a few ghosts have left all yang behind yet still remain, certain vengeful spirits and earthbound ones. These are exceptionally dangerous and will crave yang, nothing else comes even as close to as dangerous. As of note, it is funny how similar spirit (non-person/ghost) offerings or demon offerings can offer some yang lifeforce for greater effects to feed, but that's out of this topic.
Colloquially, can be. Sticking to real terms, no. Ghosts are dead people. Spirits can be any entity with a degree of consciousness that is astral or energetic.
If you want to be very strict about things when considering if calling upon some old dead person is a spirit or ghost, think of it like this. Everybody's spirit-self, your soul, resides around for a while after you die. After a while, you leave and reincarnate or go to some higher place. If someone "summons" you, you are not there anymore to summon. However, people can still call upon you anyways. This is because every spirit leaves an impression of sort into reality, a memory imprinted on the universe so to speak. People with greater impacts in life can leave a stronger residue, a stronger impression of themselves upon reality. And it is that impression, empty of the actual person, which is called upon.
Think of it in taoist lingo, yang is "you" as the self and yin is this memory-impression. At some point, yang dissipates leaving behind yin. Most fresh ghosts have yang still in them, the person, which can be helped. Only a few ghosts have left all yang behind yet still remain, certain vengeful spirits and earthbound ones. These are exceptionally dangerous and will crave yang, nothing else comes even as close to as dangerous. As of note, it is funny how similar spirit (non-person/ghost) offerings or demon offerings can offer some yang lifeforce for greater effects to feed, but that's out of this topic.
Anonymous
6/12/2025, 8:36:30 PM No.40518781
Anonymous
6/12/2025, 11:07:52 PM No.40519400
>>40513384 (OP)
I divined this some time ago. Ghosts are astral imprints from people who died full of regret, anger, fear, any powerful emotions. They leave a trace in the astral plane that can be seen in the physical plane. It is just an image, an imprint, they are not conscious or aware and that is why you hear stories of them doing mundane things like walking across rooms or stairs, repeating what they did in life, in the same place.
Spirits are real, things like poltergeists, fey, demons, angels, etc are astral entities and have agency and consciousness. They can present in the physical plane only through certain circumstances, such as existing portals like fairy rings, psychic events, summoning rituals, possession of open people with abilities etc.
I divined this some time ago. Ghosts are astral imprints from people who died full of regret, anger, fear, any powerful emotions. They leave a trace in the astral plane that can be seen in the physical plane. It is just an image, an imprint, they are not conscious or aware and that is why you hear stories of them doing mundane things like walking across rooms or stairs, repeating what they did in life, in the same place.
Spirits are real, things like poltergeists, fey, demons, angels, etc are astral entities and have agency and consciousness. They can present in the physical plane only through certain circumstances, such as existing portals like fairy rings, psychic events, summoning rituals, possession of open people with abilities etc.