Found this in my grandmother's old sewing kit, has to be maybe 40+ years old. Figured it would be a good start to a Mandela thread on here.

Id also like to say I believe it's some sort of CERN sci fi stuff to practice changing the past, or some sort of dimensional storm maybe. Has anyone noticed new things lately?

>>40516052 (OP)
jews are gayer than usual. something is up.

two words. retroactive causality. one more. counterfeits

>>40516066
one word: unrelaxed

>>40516066
You think my grandma has a counterfeit spool of thread from the 1970s made with the intention of deceiving you?

I understand retroactive changes, and think of that if there was a cornucopia, it was removed from the past, ie. We won't find it on old objects.

Just interesting to find something like this in the wild.

>>40516052 (OP)
this mandela stuff is retarded. its the perfect idea for arrogant schizos because nothing can ever prove them wrong. the whole thing is designed to make you more schizo as you turn more and more inwards, more and more convinced that you are right while everything in the entire world must be wrong because you just KNOW you're right.

>>40516052 (OP)
>SIZE 50
Holy FATMAN Batman.

If you can conceptualize physically changing objects in the first place then you can conceptualize differences such as a merging process with the possibility of erroneous results whether it be by time/space or whatever it becomes more about the presence of erroneous than timeline/universe A or B items
After all there may come a time you find your proof is now not the default

>>40517194
BerenSTEIN universer here
It isn't a brain defect - It is allowed for the universe to be a lie
You're actually a retard when you're unable to base on your experience
You will be fooled and you're not convincing by comparison and it's laughable to even try
The memory of qualia is more than your dumb ass opinion

>>40517218
>BerenSTEIN
i guess theres no possible way its just a badly recalled spelling....that would be impossible. dont worry about all the experimental evidence telling how faliable memory actually is, no no no, its must be some massively powerful force changing the universe so that only a few special people remember the TRUTH!!!

>>40517240
I debated whether to pronounce it STINE or STEEN with my older brothers in the backseat of my dad's geo prism
STAIN universe is full of absolute retards like you whose memories are directable at whim
You trying to tell me what I experienced who didn't undergo the qualia is laughable scientism retardation
You utter fool

>>40517257
>full of absolute retards like you whose memories are directable at whim
but not yours. yours is special and not subject to the nameless unknown massively powerful outside force that can erase all traces of that which you KNOW to be true from all reality in the past present and future. you're amazing and special. you are aware of the powerful force. you can't be fooled.

>>40517264
You're the one trying to tell me what my experience was imbecile
It's just like you to be unable and unwilling to consider that it must be that I'm wrong necessarily despite your needing to traverse exactly the same path to relate your experiences however you are a firm believer in consensus reality being utmost truth
You can't even discuss the context because you're that embedded

>>40517287
>You're the one trying to tell me what my experience was imbecile
no, you are. against all physical evidence you want to tell everyone that irreverent little bits of history have been changed and that anyone who disagrees with you is merely one of the 'absolute retards' (your words) who have been overcome by the massive powerful nameless force. You're saying that everyone should accept your wisdom and believe in this massive nameless force because your memory, unlike everything else in the universe, has preserve the True Reality.

Its 100% schizo.

>>40517287
>You can't even discuss the context because you're that embedded
yes, thats right anon - everyone is less free thinking and smart than you are if they disagree with you and instead dont give a shit about what name was given to some cartoon bears or the logo of a clothing company and just decide to look at the evidence instead of trusting your infallible memory.

this is where the arrogant part of 'arrogant schizo' comes in.

>>40517309
I have told you of what I experienced and that's it
You are the simpleton that thinks you know my qualia
You call ME arrogant?
Such a fool

>>40517396
you are amazing. your perception is never wrong. your memory is never in error. you're my hero.

>>40517576
Tell me more of what you know better than I
Now explain your evidence

>>40517600
not a single bit of evidence outside the skulls of people with fallible perception and memory that any of the mandela shit was ever the case.

>>40517614
Ah so you refuse to even consider the nature of reality
Why is your experience so fucking basic?

>>40517654
just be aware that you're into the realm of religion. you're preaching a religion that is entirely subjective and cannot possibly be proven or disproven to its converts.
>so basic
inventing stuff doesn't make your experience better or more truthful.

>>40517677
I haven't said anything at all about what you should believe about your current strange loop experiencing our overlapping (and not because consensus reality doesn't count nonconsensus)
But you are too simple that we can't even discuss this because you lack basics in a bayesian value determination or even awareness that you are doing this every moment just as every agent is
Nah no time for that let's just say the other is religious
Because assuredly consensus reality is truth nevermind bring a subset OF WHAT?
Yes it's very basic because you can't even classify what kind of a thinker I am
Utter fool
Furthermore if you're

>>40517754
ive discussed this stuff lots of times before. theres really nothing to discuss because every single example (mostly stuff from TV, movies, product logos) is simply a case of misperception and/or faulty memory, both of which are experimentally known to make certain kinds of errors of association, recall and so on.

the more you're aware of how these things have been studied the less you'll need to create elaborate explanations for commonplace occurrences.

>>40517772
You've been given many terms to google if you need a primer because of a new thinker arriving to the map and territory
Do you still not understand why I'm saying what I'm saying as opposed to your stubborn LOADED CONTEXT wherein given truths are not actually truths but assumptions?
inb4 you fail to consider meta again

>>40516052 (OP)

>>40517787
i understand that you're claiming some powerful force altered all of history apart from some peoples memories. do you understand that its completely non-falsifiable?

>>40518156
No
I simply told what I experienced of my qualia and removed false assertions - because there is no default - as one who has actually assign\ed values would determine

>>40518179
is it possible to falsify what you think you experienced by providing evidence to the contrary? or is your remembered experience the ultimate standard?

>>40518195
I have asked for proof that my qualia was false and evidence towards that notion - big surprise that it doesn't compare as more accurate
It's the bias that a non-experiencer MIGHT have but in attempting to ACTUALLY DISCUSS THIS in meta context of what it means wrt consensus reality and map and territory and strange loop within a reality experiencer was met with utter failure as you can see - The stubborn refusal to acknowledge that consensus reality is a subset of experiencing a qualia rather than a false dichotomy
I just am not finding enough experience to falsify my memory of my qualia based of retarded loaded contexts that don't deserve being uttered yet unthought by opponent
But I'm sure their pet beliefs will preserve their safe bubble even though consensus reality has nothing to say about experiencing and change derivative from dreams
Further I resent having this entire conversation with one who isn't smart enough to realize meanings of it
It's like having a dissertation with satan's footsoldier
What an insult
Laughable

>>40518195
Put simply the qualia happened first and retards were not there
Why should they know better? Because they think they do?
Imbeciles

>>40518229
dont you think that setting yourself up as the ultimate standard and rejecting all evidence to the contrary is a bit arrogant?

>>40518267
Experiencing the qualia is what happens FIRSTLY for EVERY ONE ALWAYS until death
Even when testifying counter beliefs you still look through that lens to do so
Thus I don't care how "impossible" others try to convince me with LESSER ARGUMENTS
What really scares those try is accepting the notion that someone else may have actually experienced it - or not because I don't care but I'd better have good reason to negate my self in recall
Further would my memory make sense given the assertion that berenSTAIN even would have a debate at all?
I don't find it arrogant but if I did which would I find MORE arrogant?
Sometimes others need to be brought low and reminded that they deserve not

Or put simply plurality of lesser doesn't win over primary and greater and it WOULD & SHOULD be thusly

>>40518455
>berenSTAIN
so you're basing all this on a childhood etc discussion on the proper pronunciation of a word? is that right? whats more likely - theres some incredible power changing everything in time (apart from your personal memory) or that some people were confused on how to say a name that derives from a foreign language (berenstein/berenstain)?

do you really think theres no possible way it could just be that some people thought it was said one way while others thought another? I'll tell you a personal anecdote related; we grew up ice skating and wanting the best gear. Bauer was the best we could get at the time. some people said it BOW-ER and a few said BAY-ER. there were arguments, but the BAY-ER people were wrong. You are the BAY-ER people at this point. You're just wrong, but you dont want to admit that you are.

come on anon, be serious.

>>40518998
You can't even summate the conversation had despite being told explicitly what was said in this very thread
You are not credible on facie
Why do you think you have authority on the matter?
Utter imbecile

>>40516052 (OP)
>dimensional storm
Pretty accurate, I sometimes get required to literally lurk /x/ for people who come forward with evidence like you have

Washington used to be facing left on the one dollar bill.

>>40516052 (OP)
I watched a Beyonce' music video for "Black Parade" dozens of times and then a few months later it disappeared off the face of the earth. It definitely existed, the song is still there but the video is traceless.

It doesn't help that nobody normal like her music so it's not like anyone can confirm or deny it.

>>40516052 (OP)
>Has anyone noticed new things lately?
Bottom line: This planet is Bozrah, not Earth.

Read this post...

https://x.com/elitefeat/status/1799553063390154856
============================
This planet is not Earth. It is Bozrah.

Earth is another planet about 75,000 light years from here, whereas this planet is merely an impostor planet that calls itself "Earth." Big difference. And trust me, I know how to count to 10 seconds, ACCURATELY. What used to be 10.00 seconds (for me) is now a whopping 15.00 seconds! If you don't believe me, see Matthew 24:22 and Revelation 8:12. For the natives, though, the speed of time here has always been the same.

If you are a Bozrah native, you are in serious trouble. The people of this planet must acknowledge that Bozrah is not Earth and that Jesus is coming to destroy it. Otherwise, don't expect God to save you.
============================

>>40519093
>t.schizo

>>40523924
retarded illiterate would have nothing to argue

>>40523937
no u

A real dilemna

>>40524586
xD

https://youtu.be/Kd8MWt_duwY?

>>40516052 (OP)
>He hasn't yet figured out that the Mandela Effect is due to actual time travel and changing of things in the past so that they cannot be disproved in the future and the discrepancy is due to the fact that memories and consciousness exist outside of time and cannot be changed in the same way as physical reality. Fuckin Newb.

Another hat in the ring for the "Fruit of the Loom logo had a cornucopia basket in it" crowd.

I was a kid in a UK primary school. Early 90s to early 00s.
The primary school had a uniform. The parents had to buy the uniform. The uniform cost money, and it wasn't too cheap at the time, despite just being Fruit of the Loom tat, and you had to buy it from an outside company that dealt only with the school, and you had to order new sizes of the uniform through the school using a paper document and either cash or a cheque which were both sent out to aforementioned company in an envelope; so every new term year at uniform ordrering time, parents stood at the school gates collecting their kids and discussed among each other the price of uniforms, and us kids discussed it a lot, too, naturally, both because we heard out parents do so, and also because we wore it every day.

I saw that uniform almost every day for 5-6 years. For boys, it consisted of smart black trousers, smart black shoes, a polo shirt, and a woolen jumper. The polo shirt and jumper were both emblazoned with the school colour (maroon) and the logo (in orange thread).
For girls it was the same as the boys but with black/grey skirts in colder seasons, and in hotter climates and days they wore the proto-typical blue-and-white checkered summer dress that is ubiquitous for UK primary school girls' uniform, with the school logo emblazoned on it. All items of clothing had basket logo.

The jumpers had the Fruit of the Loom logo on the inner collar. It was a large noticeable label. It had the basket in the logo. The polo shirt did, too. I saw it every day because I wore it almost every day. I also had a pair of green denim jeans (go 90s) that were Fruit of the Loom; they too had the same logo with the basket on the label.

I distinctly remember two points talking to both my mother and the parent of another child about "that company which has the fruit in the basket as a logo" and they said, "Fruit of the Loom?"

>>40527413
Every kid knew the logo. We talked about the "fruit in the basket logo" ourselves a few times. I distinctly remember it.
It's just anecdotal proof to you guys but to me it is real and an undeniable memory.
Either something fucking weird is happening or Fruit of the Loom is just lying about their logo for some reason.
I am not wrong.
I am not wrong about this.
This is a core memory about my childhood. The Fruit of the Loom logo HAD A BASKET. I am NOT wrong.

What about the teeth of that woman in moonraker bond movie? That's gotta be the weirdest mandela effect, she clearly had braces, that scene doesn't work without them.

there's no basket in the attached pic

everybody replying saying they remember a basket is practicing their delusion skills from pretending their grandpa didn't molest them

I could tell you.
https://youtu.be/7iGXP_UBog4

https://youtu.be/asDlYjJqzWE

>>40527423
It just means you are from a weak universe that was consumed by a stronger one.
I know this, because I have never had a ME. Not saying they arent real. I'm saying my universe has NEVER been consumed by another.
Cornucopia in fruit of the loom? Never was there, that was from a weak universe that was consumed by mine.
Dolly never had braces - that is from a weak universe that was consumed.
All ME are residuals from a stronger universe consuming a weaker one.
Munch munch.

Craziest for me is the Forrest Gump one, where people seem to misremember what he said in the beginning of the movie.
"Life was like a box of chocolates." is not what many remember. "Life IS like a box of chocolates." is what's in their memories.

Now that could be misremembered right? Well...if you saw the german version of the movie that's exactly what Forrest says. He says the german equivalent of "is".

>>40529528
Didn't Forest Gump have one of those nails-on-chalkboard southern US accents? Most likely nobody could actually tell what the fuck he was supposed to be saying, and couldn't stand to listen long enough to be sure.

It means your grandma worked for the deep state psyop team and planted that for you to find in order to gaslight you decades later so that you would make this post to gaslight the public.

>>40516052 (OP)
logos change all the time, its done by designers not by some effect of your imagination.
i hope you will get better soon.

>>40530149
Gosh, I sincerely hope this is not actually a believable explanation.

>>40516052 (OP)
they used to give woman packets of sewing needles at banks like they did with suckers in the 90's

>>40516052 (OP)
it just means your grandma was forced to cut out and patch your nasty grandpas shart stains. And she probably did so while baking you cookies without washing her hands.

>>40516052 (OP)
>Has anyone noticed new things lately?
Two:
The Locomia band changed their name to Loco Mía (as in, it has always been Loco Mía.)
These are related to the ME as they created an entire song called "Gorvachov", in honor of... Gorvachov, back when it wasn't always "Gorvachov". You don't go and write a banger (it's a top High Energy song) in honor of someone and then misspell his name.
I downloaded their discography, their last album was from 2002. People hated them because it was basically a different band that got the name as a franchise. The album was a flop and they died (not literally, in popularity.)
New Mandela Effect:
They didn't die, in 2014 they released a new album "Imperium", with a song "Climax" that is still played on the radio.
I'm a big fan, it wouldn't have taken me 11 years to find out about this album, it has always been there, so it was a shift.

>>40533716
>back when it wasn't always "Gorvachov"
I meant "Gorvachev", which has always been the correct spelling.

>>40517209
THIGG A G-MAMA

>>40532753
Shalom

>>40533716
>Loco Mía
Looks like their Spanish. Spanishes pronounce b and v the same, so that's probably why they wrote gorbachev as gorvachev.

The craziest for me is still the changed maps. Northern Australia's northern gulf was much wider and the 'horn' peninsula wasn't so prominent. South America now looks like Southeast America, and the distance between Brazil and West Africa is so short it's almost comical.

>>40534513
As an aussie 90's kid we had this show called the bush tucker man I had to watch in 98 for highschool(jokes on them they were nearly free from a library/hungry jacks promotion 3 years earlier).

It's no where close to what it was then it's moved so far north it' chasing vanatu and papua new guinea(even had a ex footballer papuan mal maninga, joke about it on the rugby footy show in 2015).

>>40516106
Slither

>>40516052 (OP)
>thread

Wouldn't that be fruit of the spinning wheel?

>>40516268
>You think my grandma has a counterfeit spool of thread from the 1970s made with the intention of deceiving you?
yes?

the universe does not work the way you think. causation is not what you think.

So I don't know wiether or not how many things are mandela effects but I do know that CERN went back in time and got rid of dollys braces after the actor who plays Jaws in Moonraker died. How do I know this? Well the same year they found the God particle was also the same year Richard Kiel died, actually semptember 11th 2014 was when he died despite wikipedia saying the 10th for some unkown reason, but a bit strange to think about he died 3 days before his birthday and then in november CERN finds the god particle and has https://youtu.be/H0Lt9yUf-VY
pic related

and even stranger is a video about time travel where this same guy says "no we can't time travel"

https://youtu.be/VgZ2EFYRQ-k

Like they are rubbing it in our faces.

>>40539972
oh my mistake he says "I don't believe in time travel" complete bullshit.

I never experienced one of these Mandela effects before. But I did remember my father having heart surgery, only to be told years later this apparently never happened. I'm just pinning that on my parents being elderly.

>>40529093
The scene works in context, it's a beautiful girl falling for a hideous monster, that's the joke. When all you watch is a webm of a guy with braces and a girl without braces smiling you think something is wrong. Like all these things you aren't remembering anything, you're forming a false memory based on what you are shown. Nobody here retained real memories of that scene or the logo on their underwear or the spelling of a cursive word on a children's book.

>>40516052 (OP)
Here's a new one for you all.

>MIGHT

Nothing will ever convince me the cornicopia didnt exist. Its the only thing that makes me believe in the mandela effect. Simply because fruit of the loom taught me what a cornicopia was as a kid in the 90s. Because not one motherfucker ever had them in the USA, on their table during thanksgiving or off holidays to store fruit.

Anyone remember watching VHS stuff from the library in the late 90s and early 2000s? I seem to remember the cornucopia appearing on television. If you are searching for mandela effect stuff you should check out 20-30 year old vhs tapes from your local library.

>>40518143
lol

>>40540313
The universe admits meme exposure doesn't work to explain why people remember the cornucopia, it isn't rational to say people were collectively trained to misremember.

At risk of creating more for speaking up, there has been (will be from your perspective) at least one court case which made this argument.

>>40516052 (OP)
>sz 50
My lands, that’s a big bottom.

>>40543505
>My lands,
are you over 60? ive only heard old people say that around here (maritime canada)

Pretty sure that size 50 is just a thread size which is pretty light. As for the logo I think that nobody gives a shit about that stupid horn of plenty anymore than than they care about an underwear logo so it all gets stored in the kinda/sorta storage area of the brain where details aren't important.

>>40540356
one possible explanation for ME is an MK ultra style implantation of false memories, perhaps through unrecorded media like television, possibly with subliminal messaging. its unlikely, but if some secret projects division has discovered a way to encode messaging into media, that people subconsciously decode into false memories, it seems like the only "rational" explanation.

In Greek mythology, the constellation is sometimes identified as Amalthea, the goat that suckled the infant Zeus after his mother, Rhea, saved him from being devoured by his father, Cronos. Amalthea's broken horn was transformed into the cornucopia or "horn of plenty".[8]

God removed the cornucopia for reasons beyond our understanding. It's better not to go looking for the skeletons in the closet

>>40539906
OH BOY ARE WE FINALLY GETTING TO THE ATTACKING EACH OTHER'S GRANDMOTHERS ARC?