why are we afraid of death when it could actually be something really tranquil? Being free of your body and all pain, stress and tiredness sounds rlly nice actually. i believe theres nothing after death but maybe there is something out there. maybe people stay dead because what comes after life is so good that they dont wanna go back. After reading that over i think my dumbass just said what heaven is bruh wasted ur time reading this goofy

>>40562142 (OP)
How old are you? You know you have to be 18 to post here right
Of course there’s an afterlife every culture on the planet since the beginning of time has believed in it
Eat a half ounce of magic mushrooms and you’ll see there’s an afterlife you’ll even get to come back to your body after experiencing it
Most of you doubtersknow this is true, and most of you would still never eat that many magic mushrooms
You don’t wanna know the truth or else you would read a book

People shit and piss themselves when they die. That's either because it feels good, or because death is terrifying (people piss themselves in fear).

unless you are instantly killed in an accident, dying can be long, painful, and torturous. This could go on for over a month especially if you die "of old age" which is bullshit. you literally rot alive if you die of old age

>>40562205
Not sure how to articulate this thought, but what I'm trying to say is if so many old fucks can die of old age, I'm sure I'll be fine doing it as well.

>>40562166
It’s because your muscles finally let go
I like your retard logic though

>>40562205
All of those old age problems can be solved through diet and supplementation
I know people don’t like to hear that, things like heart attacks and strokes could be prevented if they just cleared themselves of parasites and ate more nasty herbs

>>40562142 (OP)
What if you can't die, though?

>>40562142 (OP)
I am not afraid of death if it just comes unexpectedly (prefers I don’t even see it coming, as in something drops on my head or stroke, instead of seeing a car coming at me)
What I am afraid is a disease that makes me melt away slowly and makes me desperate and miserable
Infact, I wish every night, that I just never wake up, even though I have goals and ambitions, plans, and hopes during the day and I attend them dutifully
I just find “living” to be pointless and human experiance, shit.
I mean, are we even living? We are just ruled by a bunch of hormones, slight change and our whole perception on life changes.
Another day I was thinking, maybe if I was a super Uber chad with PERFECT genes (nothing like this exist) then It might have been worth it to live, but then I realize that I am going to get bored of my face and body soon after. So unless I am an immortal shapeshifter, with ability to re and de sensitize my receptors at will, and shift in and out of material world, living doesn’t worth it

>>40562142 (OP)
too many people have had out of obe/astral project after their 'die' or almost die for them all to be lying. science tries to disprove this by saying its just hallucinations or dmt being released into the brain but what even would be the evolutionary purpose of humans having this?

What do you want to do after death?

>>40563720
if I'm still experiencing I'm going to go look at places and fly around whats up on the moon I want to see

>>40562162
>Of course there's a life after death everyone else in history coped by believing in it so we should cope too after all the proof is:
>mushrooms

you are a retard, even if I agree with you.

>>40562142 (OP)
I'd emphasize the difference between death and dying. I know where I'm going when I drop dead, so there's peace in my heart and mind regarding that (thanks to the Lordd Jesus Christ), but I'd still be troubled by the prospect of going in a bad way, like say asphyxiated or immolated.

>>40564064
The proof isn’t just mushrooms, dumbass
The proof is in children, knowing how to speak Aramaic a dead language before they learn other languages
Or kids who can tell you how to rebuild a World War II jet engine
The fact that people could find living relatives that they had in past lives through past life, regression, and checking census records
The proof is in millions of near death experiences
In the religious experiences of people all around the world throughout all time
People don’t just hallucinate the same thing throughout all of history
When the mystics, physicists and religious scholars all same the same thing, it starts to add up to undeniable proof

>>40564639
None of that is actually "proof"
Not even close, actually. Once again proving that you, are a retard.

Again, I agree with you. You're just woefully underprepared to meaningful debate this.

>>40564639
>People don’t just hallucinate the same thing throughout all of history
people don't even hallucinate the "same thing" "omg bro we're all seeing the same elves" it's always varied, even for the same user.

species share similar brain structure that drugs act upon, who woulda thunk it!!!!!

when some people die and are revived they find the hardest thing after is having to deal with being alive again because they found peace in death and were able to let go and knew they didnt have to worry anymore then got thrust back into life and didnt want to. Death sounds comfy as fuck if youre cool with it.

>>40562988
Those people never died though. Just because it's called "clinical death" doesn't mean it's death, it's just the cessation of heartbeat or breathing. No one has ever experienced biological death and has been brought back.

The point is, all these people with NDEs had their brain running just fine. I'm not saying NDEs can't reflect something like collective experiences that would be considered supernatural in some aspects (like retrieving information from far away places). But people need to stop selling it as if they've died and come back to life, because they haven't. Many of these NDEs could be just hallucinations and dreams inspired by archetypal symbolism, beliefs, culture...etc.

>>40564854
No, it’s not you’re just stupid or I should say ignorant to the different levels that exist
There’s astral and etheric realms
Keep talking out of your ass you also ignored everything else I said

>>40562142 (OP)
Watch some YouTube near death experience videos.

>>40565177
Good suggestion

>>40563720
I want access to the full history of earth and humanity

>>40562226
that which kills you only makes you finer.

We wont be around to worry about it.

Im suicidal but what's kept me from following through is the idea of afterlife. I want consciousness as I know it to cease. I dont want to die and then suddenly be in some inter dimensional fractal dmt elf hellscape I cant even begin to process or conceive, and I definitely dont want to see anubis staring me down with the scale next to him. Please tell me its ends, I really dont want to do this anymore

>>40562142 (OP)
When I die I just get immediately force-reincarnated and "the afterlife" is just the womb in the next life and God continues to abuse me in the womb by controlling my dreams because he's a retarded sadist. Dreams are only marginally better than material reality because I have somewhat more ability to resists God's abuse but God is a complete retard for trying to pretend that being abused by him in the womb for 9 months somehow makes up for being abused by him on earth for 30+ years, or especially for trying to pretend that 9 months dreaming in the womb is "the real reality". God is a completely retarded delusional tranny.

>>40562162
Kill yourself druggie faggot. Perspective is entirely subjective. For all we know, your trip composed of nigger dick. So of course, you being the retarded faggot you are; you get excited.

>>40562969
Yes you're afraid of death faggot. Shits not like the movies. The fear is literally hardwired into your brain. It's always cute when people say that shit tho.

>>40562988
According to the philosophy of "magick". Astral projection and OBEs are just people changing their focal point in the universe. Since everything is everything, ever. And that's why when you have OBEs, you dont "see" normally. Your view is comparative to that of a dream perspective. Because your are not using your eyes. Because ya know, they're attached to your fucking body lol.

>>40564935
Saying their brain is running just fine isn't being fair at all. The longest they stay without a heartbeat, the worse their brain is running.
Also, they usually don't stick you with an EEG to measure your brainwaves while you're having a cardiac arrest, they're usually busy trying to keep you alive. But some cases that had an EEG on during cardiac arrest and got reanimated showed that only the brain stem was active. In any case, the brain isn't running just fine, and for all purposes if only the stem is running, you're more vegetable than anything during these moments.

>>40567287
kek this homo got so mad he's spouting off every bad word he knows. Well done. >>40562162

>>40567700
The brain is working, the person isn't dead. Only from this narrative many points could be made. Like for example perception of time being stretched indefinitely and the mind creating a narrative structure worth years, maybe decades or more. Maybe our reality exists in the suspended state of a dying host or "God".

You can get pretty creative with this and it'd still have a shot at being the actual case. Because when you eliminate continuity of experience (such as "stretching" time perception) pretty much anything's possible. And the mind has this capability. What i'm saying i think is, that we might not go "outside" when dying, but inside.

>>40567301
see global rule #2 and then go play with your tonka trucks, annoying faggot kid. upon becoming an adult and even as a kid you shouldn't at all have this fear. in your case you're just a weak wimpy fagtard, your shit's all fucked up from having a weak/new soul. some of us here unlike your new ass have been through the ringer before, ya fuckin' newsoul. fuckin' tonka truck dipshit... death is a change of clothes but you think it's some total eclipsing cosmological father time bullshit thing because you're a cockhole that is brand new to human life, you're an actual zoomer even on the fucking soul level. you are cosmic cancer. don't ever speak again in any capacity anywhere unless an adult asks you to. just listen. and learn.

>>40562162
>Of course there’s an afterlife every culture on the planet since the beginning of time has believed in it

That's how you know it's false.

But seriously your "argument" is nothing more than "NPC groupthink is right."

>>40562142 (OP)
what if death isn't even all that and dumping a body is superfluous to death and dying

>>40562162
Before Ancient Greece all over the world the belief the world was flat was nearly universal across cultures, including in the pre-Columbian Americas. The idea of a round earth was a Greek development. This is an example of what was a nearly-universal belief that is demonstrably false.

>>40570725
One if them that got it right was ancient Israel, because they had that insight directly from God:

“And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth.” (Isaiah 11:12)

Four corners: four cardinal points.

>>40562142 (OP)
>it could actually be something really tranquil?
>Every organism in existence tries to subvert it
Nah...