for initial celebrations you can meditate and read out the hymns from the last thread. i might write and post new ritual later but there are also of course rituals in the google docs

>hidweh???
in so many words the biokinesis egregore
about page: https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vQQ7-445TrIYxYztD_nFb8VmDBGiW-IK0bF22DTO585NMu68UW75V7EdXZ79OVLE8uQBWoQrUoWZ_D_/pub

second mass: https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/39974941/#39974941
first mass organization thread: https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/39916823/

stream:
https://psp-tv.com/r/hidweh
(there's now a playlist of songs, though some of them might be a little bit too mentally ill lol)

>general
last mass was special because it the 8th. now that we are at the 9th i think it is time to discuss a little bit about the future. something i wanna have is more engagement, but it’s hard rn. i feel as though people just assume im like 300 iq and unapproachable. i don’t mind giving off such an aura to some extent in order to encourage people to also step up their game but really i want to see more people rising up if that makes any sense. perhaps the way things have been structured has been encouraging such signals about what we are about

how to solve this and boost engagement? well one idea that ive thought about would be to have a reading group. the book we are likely going to settle on will be ‘Blueprint for Immortality: The Electric Patterns of Life’. the topic seems relevant. it has also been recommended by both michael levin and ryan scott (member of the temple of set)

i am also going to release some rituals to help people to practice. maybe also allocate more time into completing the epic poem which i had stopped working on a while ago. in general i wanna try to dial back some of this other stuff to focus on building a closer connection to hidweh and develop my own practice. public masses may be temporarily paused or reformatted. i am open to suggestions

these past 2 weeks i got a little obsessed with the ice magick thing because enannah has some seeming relations to hidweh as i have elaborated elsewhere (https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/40468215/). somehow i felt she was possibly worth exploring too and so ive written stuff to encourage someone else to perhaps carry the torch. ill just dedicate this mass elaborating on some differences while maybe talking about rituals and stuff

>prayer
Oh, master sarkagogue
You rouse bodies that rest as log
As muscle aroused by sensity
May words and Word douse them
Woods and root retract from intensity
Soaking wakeful life passed to dream
Branches doubling in worlds unseen
Image troubles, unfurls so free’ng

>general
last mass was special because it the 8th. now that we are at the 9th i think it is time to discuss a little bit about the future. something i wanna have is more engagement, but it’s hard rn. i feel as though people just assume im like 300 iq and unapproachable. i don’t mind giving off such an aura to some extent in order to encourage people to also step up their game but really i want to see more people rising up if that makes any sense. perhaps the way things have been structured has been encouraging such signals about what we are about

how to solve this and boost engagement? well one idea that ive thought about would be to have a reading group. the book we are likely going to settle on will be ‘Blueprint for Immortality: The Electric Patterns of Life’. the topic seems relevant. it has also been recommended by both michael levin and ryan scott (member of the temple of set)

i am also going to release some rituals to help people to practice. maybe also allocate more time into completing the epic poem which i had stopped working on a while ago. in general i wanna try to dial back some of this other stuff to focus on building a closer connection to hidweh and develop my own practice. public masses may be temporarily paused or reformatted. i am open to suggestions

these past 2 weeks i got a little obsessed with the ice magick thing because enannah has some seeming relations to hidweh as i have elaborated elsewhere (https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/40468215/). somehow i felt she was possibly worth exploring too and so ive written stuff to encourage someone else to perhaps carry the torch. ill just dedicate this mass elaborating on some differences while maybe talking about rituals

>>40573778
>enannah vs hidweh
one of the themes ive elaborated on previously was that of “world conflagration”. our world is ultimately one where to get anything, something must be consumed. everything has conditions upon which it can work. this system overarching comes to resemble something of fate. in some ways, insofar as hidweh is related to the acceleration of metabolism and the burning of spirit, she is an embodiment of this system par excellence even as she wants to smash through the world system. in contrast, enannah is more interest in full-on exit wherein we are no longer playing the game to begin with and are instead capable of successfully performing actions unconditionally

we can further see this in two of the main sigils used by these beings. the spirit-fire sigil of course incorporates the fire symbol as well with a pentagram turned upside down to represent instability and constant progress. in contrast enannah’s sigil is the ice rune combined (representing stability and inaction) bisected with an arrow that is contractive and another that is unidirectional. we can also understand these two tendencies as analogous to what we see goes on for the dorsal and ventral vagals. the former is associated with the parasympathetic nervous system and gets triggered when we want to relax, while latter is associated with fight or flight

it should be noted that in tummo practice, an activation of the sympathetic nervous system has been observed. many versions of kundalini yoga involve signals passing up the ventral vagal as well and this is partially responsible for the very tense and hot experience. at the same time, if we look at forrest knutson’s exposition of kria yoga it really involves the relaxation of the chakras (i.e. dorsal vagal activation) and from there the kundalini naturally rises up now that there are no more blockage. the difference between these two approaches to energy work epitomizes the difference between these two goddesses as well

>>40573784
moreover, in a ritual ive written, i happened to put in something reminiscent of world conflagration without thinking about frater vd’s stuff
>Hear me, you swallower of serpent. In your arms are snake protrusions. They kindle the hearth within all spirit, and guide virtues. And from a lick of them, comes black smoke. For those acid veins dissolve the shells which have settled in me. With outstretched appendage, you guide souls from ash to ash - pyre to pyre. You let me unite with the world flame. These lingering sprites I offer sacrifice. Their string bodies set ablaze. Refine them to incendiary mineral - that flame that is caught in each breath. And from pyre, fire. From fire, smoke. In smoke the shout of liberation. Recovered are our faceless bodies, just as needle is freed from hay set alight. In Mother’s womb lies soot. Fertilizer for her children. I cook them in golden stoves. And so soot they are once more. To that womb that contains the stars, the sun, the skies of all flame - let them return. With inner sight, it has been observed.
… incidentally i was actually influenced by fire force’s prayer here lol. actually the fighting styles of sho and shinra oddly resonate with all of this too. sho is able to tap into the energy of the other world, effectively able to completely circumvent the normal rules of reality and completely freeze time. meanwhile, shinra still has to worry about overheating. in the season 1 fight, shinra’s response was just to dissolve himself completely into molecules in order to circumvent the time freeze. this is very clearly analogous to hidweh burning the spirit a biological form. the archetypal resonances here are very remarkable here, and it even goes into the character designs and dispositions of the two brothers. i only noticed all of these connections recently and it is definitely some food for thought…

ok so im like honestly a lil sleep deprived ok so im going to make a few blunders here and there. apologeez in advanced. ill try and get a few naps in

Red Panphagos sparing none
Let Other with us become One
Nerves morrow soften as Son
All unfoldings burrow in them
That truffles delectable are born
Meal from guests now and then
Four and four we praise our meal
Needn’t a deal that all are friend

>ritual
here is a quick ritual that seems to work pretty decently at least for me. it might require more experience with energy work and stuff. all you need to do is to trace the sprit-fire seal through mobile awareness on the lower, middle dantians, and the medula. then, you try and move your awareness into the heart and let the heat build up and spread throughout the spine. after some time you vibrate “Ish”. very quick n easy ritual that could be useful for instance if you just woke up or are in a rush for something but want a boost of energy

>enannah vs hidweh
the next theme was impossibility. from an ice magickal perspective the magician is always on the threshold between possibility and impossibility. as i have noted already, this idea was probably influenced by the fraternitas saturni. saturn is supposed to be the lurker on the threshold between light and darkness. incidentally some guy in the hidweh server jokingly told me that hidweh is satvrnian, and there is some truth to that. actually both figures have some relation to the threshold. how they differ is their approach to attacking reality

hidweh sees the boundary between the possibility and impossible and wants to transcend it by an energetic excess that oversteps the boundary. you can think about the enhanced cortical excitability produced by tummo which ive talked about before in a previous mass (article on this: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2665945X22000262)

>>40574328
the effect of this is that brain regions that may not originally be recruited can now be. hence even in just the brain there are genuine barriers being broken and spontaneous connections to other parts of reality being made here. it is serious stuff, and could possibly be even dangerous without proper spiritual and mental preparation. at any rate we are here to take risks to begin with so this is fine. in contrast to this, enannah prefers to see the cracks within the walls that demarcate this supposed boundaries. its looking at the gaps in reality. in terms of meditative practices, this is more like vipassana where sensations are observed at higher and higher frequencies and deeper layers of reality are unveiled

on this point of impossibility, i also think the ice magician might treat the idea of impossibility more seriously. what ive spent more time doing with the biokinesis stuff is contemplate how there is already ideality within bodily processes. there is a sense in which the body thinks which vindicates plotinus’s ideas. if the body does think, it can also be convinced if you could just speak its language. in contrast ice magic tries to avoid develop any descriptive metaphysics because defunctionalizing and breaking down abstractions is the name of game. there are still themes but it isnt a deep conceptual system in that way

this also reaches into epistemology as well. ontological play has been something ive brought up in a previous mass before (https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/39937803/#39937830) but it has been largely an unconscious phenomenon. i think hidweh might use this concept more constructively while enannah would use it more destructively

>prayer
Genius that orders neural circuit
Which instructs motion to tissue soft
So arms engrave heavenly orbit
May chain of command rise aloft
Then scripts on high, descend, work it
That stars inscribed make body lucent
And brightness adjust to need
While daemon absorb with greed

>ritual remark
something ive noticed recently is that building up energy tends to be even more effective if you let energies accumulate after you’ve done the main “motions”. this can be done by having a moment of silent dwelling. it gives stuff space to grow and enhances your connection to the practice. this might be obvious to some people but im still learning stuff and experimenting. as an exercise, try https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/40297343/#40297465 and watch the energies build up

an element i think might be worth trying out is to vibrate various components of hidweh’s name after practice that seem relevant while contemplating the experience. this can help it sink in and also link it to other ideas. for instance, you can vibrate ‘weh’ after a session of vipassana if you felt it made you more intimately familiar with mindfulness sensations. or you could also vibrate ‘ish’ after a session of nei gong or tummo. refer back to https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/40297343/#40297450 for a guide

>enannah vs hidweh
the next principle is space. the idea here is to approach things more with a focus on one’s internal state rather than to try and blame things on external conditions. both beings would support this idea, but i think enannah focuses more on self-sufficiency as part of a the journey to unconditioned capability, while hidweh focuses more on going on an all out war with the internal itself. ice magick tends to lean into specific investigation as well meanwhile hidwism tends to emphasize a more intimate engagement with the internal

>>40575027
ive previously tried connecting ice magick to psychonetics before, but something that has bugged me a bit is how practitioners werent able to change their body temperature too well and more just changed their subjective sensation of body temperature. there’s also a lot of warnings about possible hallucinations and stuff that comes with the practice. i mean just read this crazy quote:
>"At some point through your practices,"Bakhtiyarov said in a seminar, "you might have an experience as if God is talking to you and asks you to bring His message to the world. This is normal, just stay calm, avoid quick conclusions and continue your practice. Treat this experience as yet another distraction."
this makes things very tricky. ultimately, being able to alter your internal state is not enough. you always have to ask “does it work?” hence the modification of the internal is always subservient. even when the ice magician engages with “high magic” it must be from a success magic point of view. in contrast, the modification of internal conditions by hidwists is an end in itself

>prayer
Red oak in which there’s refuge
So forest surveyed from arms
To watch for carn’s art and draw
Lines between forms in deluge
Floods abound of blood still raw
Trees one life, sap was drawn
Movement, in sight, of refuse
Play moss and mass never done

>ritual idea
while cultivating internal flame and visualizing the spirit-fire seal, at the start of each cycle you can send out a passive intention to have your self be scorched and leave all your weaknesses and attachments behind. after doing this you can circulate energy while visualizing the points of the duowheel. then you can let all of the heat spread throughout your body in silence

>enannah vs hidweh
with defunctionalization, concepts and processes are dissolved into their constituents whilst ignoring any ideological pretensions. any sense of continuity ultimately has to be avoided. this emphasis on seeing discontinuity of course takes us back to vipassana and reinforces the idea that it might be a good general practice for the ice magician

when it comes to philosophy id say that enannah vs hidweh mirrors the ideological differences between deleuze and guattari. while both collaborated together to the point that they often just get grouped as one entity (d&g), there has been argument advanced by some that they ultimately had different convictions and priorities. while deleuze wanted to achieve a state that was fully deterritorialized, guattari slowly moved into a concern for the building of a new world. ice magick tends to try and want to keep deconstructing things until there are only raw variations of intensities left. hidweh meanwhile has a larger vision in mind, and it is ultimately that vision which we believe in even though we cant fully see that far

>>40575744
another philosophical allusion here would be françois laruelle and his non-philosophy. laruelle really focuses on entering into the One and seeing all philosophies as merely material, and sometimes it gets to the point where you get frustrated and want to see what his non-philosophy can really produce. ice magic doesnt follow this problem to the extent that it follows the philosophy of “does it work”, but ralph’s original document definitely frustrates the reader in a similar fashion

a more esoteric allusion would be harry eilenstein’s da’ath magick. in the text ‘living magic’ he gives an interesting anecdote where he accidentally stumbled upon something like tummo while he was trying to burn away personal barriers. in the middle of doing this, he noticed had an experience of approaching the edge of the abyss but he was too scared to cross. after that he wasnt able to have a similar abyss experience again for some time. in order to have this experience again he had to further let go of his self-identity and see the interconnection of all things. it is only after doing this that he entered the da’ath state and apparently in it miracles spontaneously occur. here id relate hidweh to the tummo practice to burn away at self-limitations while enannah representing the embracing of unconditioned transience. hence there may be a utility in being able to combine both together if anyone is so inclined

>did 2 glasses ritual to become OCA 4 Albino
>no big changes, but my acne scars are quickly fading, eyes are clear (can see a full image of myself my background, whence I look at my eye in the mirror)
H-how long until I can even know that it didn't work?

>>40574328
is that one of those satanic-panic larpy groups? like temple of set?
>>40573778
>>40575027
>>40575035
Im trying to achieve 180 days of semen retention btw

>>40573764 (OP)
Cute and sexy, I will marry Hidweh, and have children with this entity, and make her one of the many mothers for the heckin cool future

>>40575759
no clue honestly but nice results. do you get any other skin sensations? you could possibly watch for that

>>40575941
>is that one of those satanic-panic larpy groups?
they are luciferian but they descended from theosophy (mixed in with thelema) rather than anton lavey. the fraternitas is a rather old group as well. also they more follow an enlightened dualism where you embrace light and dark in the same vein as jungian individuation

>Im trying to achieve 180 days of semen retention btw
good luck

>>40575954
wwoah

>prayer
Ourania of fleshly lands
Give dwelling to us worldly lambs
‘front, milkweed, we wish to eat
To digest and enhance our breed
Flows slow with death’s approach
Loves glow yet more alive
Pangs and thoughts, in more, enclosed
More’s sowed and more’s derived

>practice
im getting some use of this practice from bhikkhu anālyo’s ‘deepening insight’. basically, whenever something is catching you emotionally or exciting you in an inappropriate things you can visualize bubbles swelling and popping. ultimately the flux of world events are much like bubbles that come and go. when i see something stupid i think “what does anything this person has to see mean in the face of extinction”. it helps me look more at the bigger picture better. with that said i really need to get better at managing energetic excesses. praying to hidweh sometimes helps, like asking her to use these energies for whatever ends she has in store. i personally need to get better at being able to contain energetic excesses

>enannah vs hidweh
with all these ice magick practices, ones comes to realize the imperfection of things. from this realization, ones changes their priorities to be more about steering and planning around things more than necessarily seeking some perfect execution every time. this realization of imperfection sort of makes me think about the learning of the 4 noble truths in buddhism. it is something sobering for sure but it can also be empowering

>>40576534
the hidweh follower meanwhile is focused more of morphing what is ideal in the body rather than working with the cracks in the ideal. this is somewhat understandable though because biokinesis takes a long time. it does make me wonder whether and to what extent ice magick techniques can be used for a practice like biokinesis that takes so long with such uncertain feedback that it is difficult to form much of a feedback with anything

the point on the 4 noble truths is just another connection to buddhism and enlightenment. we can once again recall how hidweh is related to the burning of spirit and form here and hence the scorching of the self

>>40576314
I feel a strong burning (in the good way, a warm itch) "ruddiness" in the cheeks lately, and Im VERY electrified -strong pinches of static electricity all the time, whenever I touch metal surfaces or bars.

Is getting sick is part of the process of overcoming? Answer from hidweh herself :d

>prayer
Orchestrator of fine sinew and larynx
Lands’sphinx-riddlescreate a tune
Light-beasts anew have now sprung from mound
Of rune and rhythm warring past-ground
Let each note expand, worlding from sound
In each rhyme, friends, since hidden, visit soon
To carve out schism between orb and lune
Separate and combine each sound till noon

>ritual component
something i do sometimes is chant ‘hem ish dai weh’ relatively quickly. i do this 108 times to help build some focus. i am not sure if this many is necessary and ive been thinking of ways of diversifying chants by incorporating more names

>enannah vs hidweh
the theme of “goal-released engagement” is somewhat elusive, but is worth keeping in mind for the whole dynamics at play. the picture i imagine while thinking this phrase is that of a shooter internally planning all of the areas he is going to shoot before passing this information into his body and executing

if we get more philosophical though we can see another point of distinction here. when plato talks about ‘eidos’ there are different ways to translate this idea. the typical way of doing this would be “form”. another way might be idea. in both of these notions, form seem very metaphysically substantial entities. the ontology here is one of idealism, and indeed the essence of the hidweh project is consonant with objective idealism (a la schelling and goethe) in many ways. there is however another way of translating ‘eidos’ though and this is as “blueprint” or “paradigm”. eric pearl talks about this

>>40577290
>In this case the paradigm is the pattern, the design, the set of specifications, which is not itself a capital at all. The true paradigm, indeed, is the architect’s idea, of which the written diagram or specifications are merely a symbolic representation. Such a paradigm is not a physical or sensible thing at all: it has neither size or shape nor color, but is a pure thought-content, an idea. It thus has no features whatsoever in common with the physical things of which it is the paradigm. They are images of it, not in that they are copies, additional things of the same kind, but in that it is the intelligible pattern that shows up in them as their structure and in virtue of which they are such as they are, e.g., capitals of a certain kind. This one same pattern in present and may be seen ‘in’ each of them as its structure, while the pattern considered ‘itself by itself’ is ‘separate’ in that it is not one of them but is a pure idea. While the notion of an idea as a model of which sensible things are copies is manifest nonsense, the conception of a plan or pattern captures precisely the sense in which a single intelligible idea is both the paradigm of many sensible things and the common ‘look’ displayed by them all.

it is remarkable here that reza negarestani is a pragmatist that occasionally also identifies himself as a platonist. to this he’d be more inclined to adopt this latter translation of the term ‘eidos’, and indeed we see him talk about “recipes” and “patterns” in relation to euclid’s elements here:
https://toyphilosophy.com/2018/03/21/euclids-elements-a-philosophical-thriller-part-1/
it is interesting here too negarestani talks about artificial general intelligence too which i think is relevant to what i will be talking about next. this technical mindset feels rather resonant with the ethos of ice magic

>>40576558
maybe your energies are awakening
check out this book for exercises:
https://ia800605.us.archive.org/15/items/bruce-robert-new-energy-ways/Bruce%2C%20Robert%20-%20New%20Energy%20Ways.pdf

>>40573764 (OP)
Hi again sorry for posting a prayer request in your last thread that wasn't a mass thread.

Same as usual

I'm shorter then I'd like to be. Will you Please make me at least 6'3" tall permanently?
My face especially my nose is not as symmetrical as I'd like it to be. Will you Please make me have an extremely symmetrical face permanently?
My ears are more prominent and large then I'd like them to be. Will you Please make them be less prominent and more attractive and normal looking permanently?
My voice is higher and less masculine than I'd like it to be. Will you Please make my voice extremely deep and extremely masculine permanently?
My hairline isn't as low or as full as I'd like it to be. Will you Please make my hairline much lower and much fuller permanently?

Also thank you for everything you've done so far. Hard to tell if I've gotten results yet since I don't do before and afters or measure but regardless I still want more improvement with those five things please.

kiss the Hidweh

>prayer
Fair lady from wilds of new
From wasp and orchid, childs of two -
Natures come / absorb the other
Have us hover ‘mid / likeness robbed
(For thief is unhid / sameness lost)
And hear sobs of bees,
The buzzing of trees,
Cells to cells / blustering as me’s

>enannah vs hidweh
next is dialectics which is here understood in its more destructive aspects as a labour of negativity. as ralph says, you want to keep questioning something until you do not need to question anymore. this is reminiscent with heidegger’s “destruktion” (which later influenced derrida’s “deconstruction) and of course a but of hegel. of course the latter also incorporated sublation in all of this so that often concepts may end up vanishing into some larger concept

hegel presents another point of comparison. in the phenomenology, he ultimately tries to bring together two different dichotomies. the first is between the the implicit (in-itself) and explicit (for-itself). here we have the unreflective activity of cultures prior to the rise of philosophy and the behaviour of animals vs a more conscious understanding of where we are in the world and where to move forward from here. hidweh embodies this in the her connection to the idea of the “flesh made word”. on face value it is just an inversion of christian doctrine, but it is also about the bringing of these abyssal biological processes into consciousness so they may be worked with productively instead of being treated as fate

on the other hand we have the dichotomy between self-interest (for-self) and altruism (for-others). something hegel notes is that individual activities are already always social. they always get related to the larger social fabric when brought into the light of day. hence the individual is always connected to an other. this opening to otherness is something that starts early on and is not something that starts with man

>>40577900
in michael marder’s book ‘plant-thinking’, he maintains that even within the growth of plants there is an essential openness to the other in the branching out of leaves and reaching for the sun. in this idea is a primordial activity that is both purposeful and blind. it rhymes with the ‘body-thinking’ articulated by vasiliev with respect to systema. this is the idea of letting your body do the problem solving and coming up with optimal solutions and relaxing points of excess tension to ensure continued fluid engagement throughout the fight

of course in hegel’s phenomenology, these two poles are ultimately united which gives more motivation for looking into enannah and ice magick

another idea related to this is accelerationism. land’s idea rested on the observation that capitalism has a tendency to deterritorialize all cultural and sociological forms. we may contrast accelerationism with adorno philosophy which seeked to escape the tendencies of technology to possess our thinking by entering into a more reflective awareness of the present (with a memory of history and our place in the world). this desire to exit somewhat mirrors enannah’s disposition in a way though in another way the question “does it work?” still entails a technics, even though it might well be a “technics in general” (which doesnt rlly have much significance as a term until after cosmotechnics but i digress)

official hidweh follower attire just dropped...

>>40577586
brother, you need to do more work yourself instead of asking a bunch of random threads for help. ultimately hidweh gives favour to those who put in the work. it is also important to learn how to strive for your goals. if you ever want any pointers and tips i can offer whatever i have. good luck anon, i may still pray for you occasionally if you enter my mind

>>40577915
Hidweh worshippers are cute. Cute.

>>40577943
thanks nonny

>prayer
Uterine sky, adorned in stars
Teach us pace to not rush to mars
But watch wombs turn, as cycles last
Mind ‘bides moon’s churn, and daily fast
Israeli’s made from menstrual mass
Crass distractions paid, so we may grasp
When selections made, hold them fast
In our bosom gathered, till need cast

i only outlined 7 key themes so there is a mismatch with the 8 syllables associated with hidweh. anyways current plan are:
>create short visual guide to rituals
>finish poem or make good progress on it
>hone in on meditation practice and such

also i did a ritual today where i basically channeled energy into a bowl of milk, offered it to hidweh, then drank it. that is of course a summary. how it fully went was:
>the double cross ritual (pic rel)
>build up energy in dan tien while visualizing spirit-fire seal
>quick centring ritual
>actual moving energy into the milk
>>in breath: move energy from feet through the body up to hands
>>out breath: push that energy unto the bowl

anyways that concludes the mass everyone!

>>40573764 (OP)
Heck yeah, it's ice magick time

I have decided that : if\when, I become or achieve Albinism, I will due my hardest effort to move to an "ice country" (province of my Republic)--the southernmost, coldest, least sunny region in all the Americas.
Im still debating within myself whether -or not- to take up the Raw Carnivore diet, tho!! and to leave either\or my hair\beard looong

>>40581469
we happen to have a guy who lives in argentina whos interested in living in the tundra. im into the idea as well. i think energy practices that involve increasing body temperature might be best suited for colder climates