Many have wisely pointed out that this life being a test or this life being a school for karmic lessons doesn't make much sense for the simple reason we do not have memory of other lives or direct knowledge of the greater spiritual reality.

It has been suggested that we are already in hell or tha while not in hell we are in some realm created by some half mad god who was born the divine equivalent of a retard with psychopathic tendencies and down syndrome because his mother did the divine equivalent of getting drunk, chain smoking and doing hard drugs while she was pregnant then trying to throw him in a dumpster.

These ideas do not really make sense either.

>>40576895 (OP)
The hell possibility does not make sense because as bad as this reality is if you truly had an unrestrained sadistic God they could make it so so much worse. It would be even worse than living under the computer in I Have no Mouth and I must scream.

The retard God possibilty is a bit better but it suffers from the problems of why Sofia (the equivalent of an insane unwed teenage mother on drugs) was ever allowed to get that far in a perfect divine realm where such a thing could happen and why this universe would not be resuced or destroyed as soon as it was created. Also once again why is the spiritual realm so concealed from us... but another possibilty makes more sense.

>>40576932
This universe is entertainment for a higher and more perfect realm. A perfect universe can not have conflict or struggle and with no struggle or imperfection there is no story.

We are the method actors of the universe, we agreed to do this to be the movie stars of the divine realm. The stories could possibly just be animated but we for some reason thought it was important to stay in character.

>appear in a dream with other people
>we question how we got there
>some people say god or whatever
>die, dream drifts away
>new dream starts up
>other people in the dream again
>question how we got there

>>40576932
well Sophia knocked herself up
so
IDK

>>40577015
Its not quite a dream because dreamscapes by nature are ephemeral transient and very morphic to thought (the effect of the mind on this reality is not zero but this reality is far far more solid than any dreamscape) its probably a sandbox reality for entertainment. Those of us here who actually have a consciousness I think we agreed to be apart of the show...

>>40577022
You understood my meaning she was giving birth in an illicit and bad way and then she did the equivalent of tossing the deformed child in a dumpster. I don't think that story holds up better than the Orthodox Abrahamic creation story.

>>40577041
It's a collective dream. More observers provides more resolution and realism.

>>40577063
Why would higher beings enter a collective and painful dream except maybe for the reasons I described. IMHO we're in showbiz.

>>40577097
I didn't say we were higher beings and I didn't say we agreed. You don't need to agree to dream.

>>40576949
You're assuming perfection exists, it dont, not for us and not for God's. A world without conflict or struggle.. a utopia is even worse than a dystopia, theres no room for growth its endless stagnation, for creator level beings stagnation is dangerous. Chaos type worlds are ideal, free will is important, if being in a higher world means you have no free will then is it really a higher world or a prison?

>>40577194
You're not that far off from what I'm saying... but I'm saying that the higher more perfect realms can relieve their stagnant perfection by essentially consuming entertainment media from less perfect realms. Hence we are in showbiz for the more perfect realm.

>>40577203
If we have to wipe our memories to experience a life worth living then theres something inherently wrong with this supposedly perfect world.

>>40577210
The realm of perfection I do not think has memory wipes we experience memory wipes when we are here because we are the equivalent of method actors...

Nah I'm saying this world is very very obviously imperfect (every spiritual tradition even the really shitty ones like exoteric Islam and Catholicism acknowledge this) but I'm positing by elimination of any other thing I can think of the only reason that makes sense for such a shitty universe to exist and be compatible with the idea of higher powers that aren't outright malovolent.

>>40577222
I can try to share my view, perhaps you can gain something from it since youre searching for answers or ideas. This universe isnt shitty, everything about it is beautiful, including struggle, suffering and pain. Its not them thats beautiful but the way we overcome it and grow from it. We have been given an amazing opportunity to live, learn and grow in this world, its a tutorial, a training ground a crucible for us to grow and you cant grow in a perfect world, chaos type worlds are ideal, its not that our creator is punishing us, theyre just giving us an opportunity to grow and learn. As for why they are doing that is for you to decide, I have my own answers and path in life that answers these questions, try finding answers or just continue learning, theres no wrong way to live, you can enjoy the illusion or try to ascend beyond it. Do whatever you feel is right, for you.

>>40577254
Yes I've heard of the Leibniz view but no sorry suffering and struggle aren't beautiful and people who say it is have had very charmed lives where suffering was only ever slight and only a prelude to them winning. Try saying that and having lived life as an autist. Try saying that having lived life as an autist who finally achieved financial success and having the covid bullshit (which you always knew was fake) ruin everything. But it could be worse I could have had childhood cancer or been crippled. Suffering is beautiful if you're on the heroes journey and triumph its not beautiful for side characters who don't have a happy ending. As for learning... How do we learn with a veil of forgetfulness... earth as a school NEVER made sense?

But what does make sense is we are actors our presence a temporary sacrifice we volunteered for so we can produce entertainment for ourselves and our fellows in better realms with little suffering. Its really the only thing that make sense. We both agree that as a realm gets more perfect there is far less a scope for heroic or even comedic entertainment to be made about that reality... so a perfect realm must import its stories from a less perfect realm.

>>40577282
You're assuming you'll lose your memories after death, but what if they are stored and can be awakened later? And I have a pretty miserable life, im disabled basically bedridden, poor without a dollar to my name forced to live with my parents forever, no financial assistance and Im Co pretty isolated with no contact with anyone but my parents whom I barely speak with, but you know what I was rich with? Time, and I used it to overcome and accept my condition, in fact im now thankful for them, I spent years living inside my own head, piecing together all the information I've gained basically mental alchemy, and I found awnsers to every question I've had, I learned exactly what this world is and its purpose, the goal. Im thankful I was able to have so much time to myself to study myself, if I was living a normal life I would just be another ignorant soul lost in the illusion.

>>40576895 (OP)
This life is a test. Our instincts are a result of our memories. It wouldn't be much of a test if we have the notes at the ready. You would just be doing what is necessary for reward like a dog. Your will must be aligned with God if you wish to become divine.

This is not hell. This is Earth, the middle ground, effectively limbo. Below the heavens, but close enough feel its influence. Above Hell, but close enough to see its influence. And until His return it is ruled by Lucifer, the Satan, or Nomdak and his children are the masters of the world. Do not be deceived by their ramblings.

>>40577326
This is the orthodox Abrahamic view but life as a test makes no sense as we do not know the rules of the test. People have vastly different moral instincts based on innate proclivities and upbringing.

>>40577254
>opportunity to grow and learn.
You can say this but then you’ll need to question why there’s no teachers around for every person, no access to direct spiritual for hints, no access to our subconscious mind, no access to past lives memory, no access to THIS life’s memory because of how limited it is

Then you could say
>it’s one of the tougher schools since change occurs slowly, through the *collective* consciousness over time

But why? Why do we learn so slowly? To the point where it doesn’t seem like we’re learning at all! I believe I agree with OP. It’s some form of entertainment. Except we’re the computer. We win. We are connected to the God. We are the boss level. And all the little aliens watch as the evil ETs try their hand against this God simulation. Everyone knows the end result, you can’t win against god. It’s all being done on the playstation consciousness console. That’s why nobody helps us.

>Why have to be mad. Its only game.

>>40577335
We do have access to our subconcious mind, in fact studying it was one of the biggest parts, and thats dreams, you dont need teachers just yourself, following a teacher means youre accepting another's path, when you need to forge your own. Patience is a very important lesson, if you are young it makes sense that youre a little impatient, that will go away as you get older, hopefully.

>>40577355
> Dreams
I almost never dream or if I do the memories vanish instantly. The reality is while there does seem to be SOME access to the subconscious mind, past lives, higher reality etc it is difficult and reliable knowledge of how to do it to the extent it exists is heavily occulted.

>>40577319
>And I have a pretty miserable life, im disabled basically bedridden
What you need to know above all is that your self manifestation power is everything in here. If it's low you get the circumstances you have. If it's high it will defend you from bad circumstances when you're born because they will be unacceptable to you. The good news is that suffering increases it's power. You will be more motivated to prevent a disabled life next time.

>>40577375
This is my last cycle, this world has nothing left to teach me to aid my path, im already complete. Only thing left is to continue absorbing random information while I wait to expire.
>>40577367
Not being able to dream... hmm, you could try Marijuana if its possible. Or try to enter the state between awake and sleep, being in that state can provide you answers.

>>40577367
remove flouride water and toothpaste
decrease meat
increase veggies
increase sun exposure
move your body
meditate
be grateful and giving
keep seeking

>>40577425
1. Avoiding all flouride in America is basically impossible
2. I did the vegetarian thing for years
3. I'm a supertaster I can do fruits but will barf with veggies.
4. I did for a while Im in Florida lol didn't make me dream.
5. Was more active for a while didn't make me dream.
6. Grateful to what... I'll admit I'm not giving but its mainly because experience has taught me generally that Machiavelli's view of human nature is the correct one.
7. Of course.

>>40577412
>>40577425
forgot about marijuana
imo avoid the goverment weed
aim for organic low strengh balanced thc/cbd strains if at all
the new weed just mindfucks you

weed will initially kill off your dreams, but when you stop, they come back with a bang
what I posted first the the sustainable path
drugs are a temporary shortcut, that show whats possible to earn and grow
into
good if you dint believe at all and have 0 base or faith

>>40577443
I wasn't open to the idea of marijuana people who use weed all the time are cringe. I've done DMT a few times but I agree with you no drug should be a habit.

>>40577443
I would suggest the Marijuana not to help one dream but to just lay in bed and let your mind wander, you can stumble upon profound truths without even searching.

>>40577441
reduction is better than doing nothing
imo from your response
my guess would be self limiting beliefs
or
ssri's/antidepressants
or
dreams are just not your "thing"
there are infinite ways to enlightenment
yours could be fishing, drilling holes, or bird watching or chemistry
or finally, you may need some lsd or mushrooms to bust down the door to make a path first
best of luck

>>40577454
that is true
reread my post
im not anti marijuana
im anti government gmo super weed
17263% thc 0% cbd bs that mind fucks you off one hit

>>40577412
>This is my last cycle
You're only in the kiddie pool when it comes to number of reincarnations. It's better to accept you're coming back than try to hide from the inevitable. Even the buddha comes back every time.

>>40577459
>>40577451
That's a good point... if using antidepressants it will take your ability to not just dreaming but to think clearly away. I took some for years and it truly does make you a zombie in thought. If you're on that stuff toss it, unless you can't live without it, in that case you should just enjoy the illusion as much as you can because you wont ever get anywhere on the stuff.

Not sure if any of you take it but some lurkers might.

>>40577470
I used some cheap ass gummies like 3 bucks for 200 MG packs would last a week, i wouldnt recommend smoking.
>>40577472
Who's to say im not an ancient soul experiencing its last cycle? Im already building and setting up systems, I barely live in this world, I just exist within it until my time is up.

>>40576895 (OP)
What is the purpose of a cell? As above so below.

The whole point of axioms is that they're simple observable truths. Humans have always learned through extrapolation.

>>40577506
The old souls have an enlightened perspective. You don't have that. You're like the young souls that are getting shit on by random circumstances instead of defending themselves.
The cycles happen because you're standing in eternity. Eternity doesn't end.

>>40577537
How do you know my perspective? I've barely shared anything, I didn't say a single thing about my path, and youre wrong I didn't get shit on, it was a gift that allowed me to see. It just took me a while to realize it.

>>40577550
>if I was living a normal life I would just be another ignorant soul lost in the illusion.
You're still in a suggestable dream state. I felt turned away from the illusion from the beginning.

>>40577566
And what's the significance of this? Are you saying someone is born enljgheneted and its not something that can be gained? That's basically what youre saying. No one is born enlightened, the fact you think so just proves you have no idea what youre talking about. How about this, you speak of sp3aking from enlightened perspectives, broaden my horizons.

>>40577580
Cope all you want but the cycles show in your soul.

>>40577609
This is just proof youre just lying chasing clout, you talk down to others and try to act superior, I came here to provide advice you came here to speak down and show off "heh look at me i was born knowing this worlds an illusion im better than you" I see through you, youre a fake. The fact you couldn't say anything worth while proves it, and enlighented individual wants to lift others up, not bring them down.

>>40576895 (OP)
>we come here because it's boring in the spirit realm!!!!!!!!!!
>fuck yeah i want to pay taxes and bills and work a meaningless job and live the same life circumstances and traumas that have been inflicted on humanity for millennia without change except for technological and agricultural progress!!!!!!!!
Fuck, modern life is so gay. I could understand being alive in the so-called "hunter gatherer" days, but instead we have to deal with people who decide to sell their mind and souls to material petty nonsense and have to interact with this society until we die.
I don't get how spiritually enthralling this experience is supposed to be when everything around you is inherently distracting to look inward. While you can argue "that's the point, dumbass", it's hard to get engaged and aware of spiritual matters in a proper way. People are harder to engage with more than ever, people in power hate to keep progressing our society further into new and interesting ways of life or innovation.
I don't see how this world can be addicting or hard to lose your attachment for it in so many souls once you start to recognize it could be so much better.
I think the material realm could be much more kino if there was no pain, violence, lies, petty engagements and other forms of suffering, and we could enjoy our illusion of solitary consciousness and ego in a peaceful quiet world.
It has all the markings of just a peaceful getaway if it weren't for all the bullshit. The game is rigged and unfortunately the higher dimensions are dead-set on making sure it stays that way, and that they'll just keep letting us repeat the same shit over and over. They are autistic in the worse way possible.

>>40577620
You have your innerworld, it may not be what you want, but its yours and you can build it however you like, and if you really want it, perhaps you can have it when you leave this one. To make it your new reality.

>>40577619
I don't really care about inflating your ego or my ego or whatever. You think of things in such petty terms.

>>40577650
So you have an ego huh.. nice admission, one of the steps to enlightenment is shedding the ego. Believe what you want you phony, just know you arent fooling anyone. You're indian arent you?

>>40577641
Perhaps. I just think that the human experience and our perception of self, ego, and the lack of connection with the collective consciousness and our spiritual home indicates this life is not to be a limiting experience per se, but more of a humbling one grounded in experiencing a form of solitude and the self you chose to project onto here.
While exceptions apply, I am just speaking matter of fact since there is not many people who have any kind of re-connection to the divine until they die. I question why the systems and rules within this realm are the way they are, why our pronounced individuality and ego exists within ourselves inherently, and why we experience time in a linear sense and have no concept of what is outside of us if unexposed to spiritual concepts or a first-hand experience.
It seems odd we can't get a solid and satisfactory answer from those closest to Source, but if I had to guess is that these things are meant to be understood and embraced properly, rather than shunned or destroyed. (but then again, some people need to have their false sense of ego destroyed)

>>40577677
Indeed... its not really something we can know, but theres some reason why things are the way they are, all we really have is ourselves to decode it and figure it out. Perhaps individualism and ego are neccisary, to experience life from a unique perspective. At the end of the day it comes down to what we believe, and prepare for a next phase. We dont know what truly happens, but I'd rather enter the next stage of my existence as prepared as possible.

>>40577334
I would disagree there are rules. The 10 commandments are essentially guidelines. The 7 sins/virtues are basically a checklist of how and how not to conduct ourselves. There also lessons from the many stories in the bible. Many paths can be taken to study the curriculum and we are given free will to choose. Our multiple lives are the result of learning the lessons through trial and error. Our memories are the accumulation of the various lessons we have learned along the way. Our instincts are the product of the memories. It is true that morals/instincts vary due to nature and nurture, but that is why we are being vetted. A person cannot achieve divinity if they can be beguiled by others, have doubt in their convictions, or have wavering morals. They must be resolute in all they think, say, and do. If a person chooses to adhere to Him, then their instincts will reflect His Providence. If the test is passed with a perfect grade, they will achieve divinity. Their morals will be His morals. They will become a fractal, an extension of Him.

>>40576895 (OP)
We come here to know how it feels like, and there were things that were only available in our lifetimes, so there was some urgency to come here, lest we'd miss them.
For instance, when I was a child they sold for a brief period of time something called "DinoAros", and it was the most delicious snack I've tasted in my life.
And then they were gone, and there's no way to get that flavor back. What if in eternity that flavor is never created again? Only incarnated people of the time could taste that flavor, and I was one of them, it's something special, and it's basically the bottom of the barrel, because who cares about the flavor of a snack?
There have been many things only you have experienced and the only way was to have a physical body for them. And afterwards there's no difference between good and bad, or between enjoyment or suffering, experiences are neutral, you had to know how they felt like.
This is a safe environment for the spirit to experience these things, including soul trauma and healing, because that's "the contrast", joy feels like nothing when it's just joy, compare it to pain and suddenly its the nicest things in existence.

>>40576895 (OP)
This place is a
>prison slave farm
>loosh harvest site
for humans under subjugation of non-humans.

Call them whatever you want, elite, jews, reptiles, it does not matter. What does matter is we are slaves that have been struck dumb and blind. Nothing changes until man remembers how to open his eyes to danger and shout a warning.

So keep paying taxes and supporting the war, death, slavery, and rape you only participate in with your attention and tax dollarts.

>>40577984
But if that were true as bad as things are they could be even worse

>>40576895 (OP)
Logic and meaning are themselves a kind of psychosis. All the great sages knew this. Things don't make sense because there never was sense to begin with.

>>40578142
Farm=/=hell
The purpose inst to make us feel nothing but suffering but to loosh/energy/ chit whatever you want to call it out of us.
As above so below. Just like we have farm cattle for meat and milk, these entities are farming us for the sustenance.

“We have a predator that came from the depths of the cosmos and took over the rule of our lives. Human beings are its prisoners. The Predator is our lord and master. It has rendered us docile, helpless. If we want to protest, it suppresses our protest. If we want to act independently, it demands that we don't do so... I have been beating around the bush all this time, insinuating to you that something is holding us prisoner. Indeed we are held prisoner! "This was an energetic fact for the sorcerers of ancient Mexico ... They took us over because we are food for them, and they squeeze us mercilessly because we are their sustenance. just as we rear chickens in chicken coops, the predators rear us in human coops, humaneros. Therefore, their food is always available to them." "No, no, no, no," [Carlos replies] "This is absurd don Juan. What you're saying is something monstrous. It simply can't be true, for sorcerers or for average men, or for anyone." "Why not?" don Juan asked calmly. "Why not? Because it infuriates you? "

>>40578142
Farm=/=hell
The purpose isnt to make us feel nothing but suffering and pain but to harvest loosh/energy/ chi whatever you want to call it out of us.
As above so below. Just like we have farm cattle for meat and milk, these entities are farming us for their sustenance.

“We have a predator that came from the depths of the cosmos and took over the rule of our lives. Human beings are its prisoners. The Predator is our lord and master. It has rendered us docile, helpless. If we want to protest, it suppresses our protest. If we want to act independently, it demands that we don't do so... I have been beating around the bush all this time, insinuating to you that something is holding us prisoner. Indeed we are held prisoner! "This was an energetic fact for the sorcerers of ancient Mexico ... They took us over because we are food for them, and they squeeze us mercilessly because we are their sustenance. just as we rear chickens in chicken coops, the predators rear us in human coops, humaneros. Therefore, their food is always available to them." "No, no, no, no," [Carlos replies] "This is absurd don Juan. What you're saying is something monstrous. It simply can't be true, for sorcerers or for average men, or for anyone." "Why not?" don Juan asked calmly. "Why not? Because it infuriates you? "

>>40577472
Fuck you and this sloppy nigger meat matrix. Never coming back.

>>40577984
This is the only solution but people are helpless monkey retards so good luck with that.

>>40578142
Shit seems to be getting worse and worse. This hell we are in is a slow burning one.

>>40577441
>I'm a supertaster I can do fruits but will barf with veggies.
Hey, supertaster here.
The secret is to make some delicious meat with grease and oil and the condiments and spices needed for it to be delicious.
Now, don't wash the pan, fry your veggies there.
And that's it, I've been shocked by delicious vegetables that taste like meat, the flavor of the meat just invades them and it's a great way to taste them, or the only way...

>>40577441
>supertaster
thats a funny way to spell 'spoiled child'

>>40579305
So, tell me what is your favorite vegetable and I'll tell you that if you were a supertaster it'd taste awful.
No.
It tastes awful but you are missing the parts that would let you taste how it really tastes, so you like it.

>>40579305
My childhood sucked.

>>40579347
nobody likes picky children

>>40579333
>I'm a picky eater: the science
society invents an illness for every societal failure - muh adhd, muh autism, muh tastebuds. Enough already

>>40579358
Except it's not am illness, it's like being able to see more colors, but with flavors.
And you see the same extra colors that others with the condition see, and are bothered the same when those colors aren't shown in screens.
But it's not an ailment, it's something extra.

"George, you must realize that the world is a joke. There is no justice, everything is random. Only when you realize this will you understand how silly it is to take yourself seriously. There is no grand purpose in the universe. It just is. There's no particular meaning in what decision you make today about how to act."

>>40579395
yeah I know its not an illness lol thats the point - for every person that has legit super taste buds there are a 100 that pretend they have because they don't like eating vegetables

>>40579422
And why would they do that? Why would people avoid eating their vegetables if they tasted good?
Sit and think it through, why don't we have people avoiding eating their meat by claiming to have some special buds that make meat taste bad?
Either the vegetables taste bad because of the buds and that's why they're avoided or they taste good and there's no reason to avoid them, there's no scenario where they taste good and they're avoided.

>>40579465
meat only tastes good if you season it correctly - nobody eats unseasoned meat. A tomato, on the other hand, is ready and good as-is with minimal preparation and effort required. You're just picky, anon

>>40576895 (OP)
>The purpose of this life
It's hard to put it into words, but I think the gods want for us what they would want for themselves. I don't see why they couldn't make us slobbering heroin zombies and happy all the time, but would you want that to be your whole existence?

>>40579470
No, a tomato has a flavor that I can't stand, if tomatoes tasted to you like they taste to me, you couldn't eat them either.
It wouldn't be being picky, it would be that you have genes that make them taste like this, with a flavor others can't detect.
Also, I eat my beef just fried with oil, no seasoning.

>>40576895 (OP)
Of course this life is a test, or rather, kindegarten and harvest of souls for either future glory by God or eternal damnation by Satan. Satan is trying to ruin us with sin, God is trying to save us with Jesus.

Simple reason we do not remember anything previously is that it is not necessary for us to remember, we are spiritually, despite our bodies and age, children here. We are here to learn how to love other people as we love ourselves, and God above all else. With Jesus we are then adopted and made children of God and inherit our eternal place in heaven. And our own choices, when we suffer here in sake of that love, earns us wonderful rewards. We can make a choice whether to love other people and God and inherit Heaven, or be selfish and only think of ourselves and belong to Satan. There is no middle ground. We can either be free children of God, or slaves to Satan.

If you feel that you don't have faith in Jesus, or God, don't worry. You can ask Jesus for faith. It is a choice we make, to ask. Jesus is waiting patiently but he and God respect our free will above all, so we need to ask. Once we make choice, we are given faith, love and hope and Holy Spirit dwells within us, giving us salvation as a gift. Take this gift. I can attest, I was far removed from God when I asked for Jesus, he gave me salvation, hope and clarity to see the world as it is, battle ground of good vs evil, where prize that Devil covets are our souls. We must choose Jesus, if only to run away from devil, because otherwise Devil will torment us for eternity. But there is so much more than that. Each of us is potential child of God capable through Jesus to inherit a divine position in Heaven! We must press on towards God, for all that is good and Holy and to be free of this evil and sin. We cannot make it on our own, but with Jesus and Holy Spirit, it can be done.

Do not lose hope, ask it from Jesus! I cannot state it enough that we only need to ask!

>>40579525
>Doesn't know Jesus is Satan.

>>40579525
Final and important thing to add: Rapture is coming soon! It is really coming. Jesus is coming really soon for his people. Now is the time to have personal relationship with Jesus, repent of sin, and have love for other people and above all to God.

If you don't know Jesus or God, if you feel like you don't have faith, you can even still approach God in prayer. Like me, you can just say when alone: "God, Jesus, I don't really know you but I want to get to know the truth. If you are indeed the truth, show it to me Jesus and come to my life. I want holiness, truth, and love that supposedly is in you God, but I lack faith. Give me faith, and show your love to me, and let me repent my sin, and I will be yours. I want to be free of sin and evil. I lack faith, but if you are there, I trust you. Be with me."

Finding/getting Bible and reading New Testament, and parish/congregation of fellow christians who know we are saved by grace is also great help in journey if you are new. It can give you encouragement, enjoyment and friendship.

Take care, Rapture will happen. We have to be ready for all these things, and most importantly, make a stance concerning our eternity. Jesus is a good stance to take, he will never abandon you or cheat on you, and as long as you live, never lose hope on you coming back home. Heaven is our home guys. Let's go there!

Jesus instead of Odin? Buddha instead of Jesus? Olive oil instead of punching a tree to get wood?

Anyone who believe there is truth in words is scamming themselves by seeking for meaning in the worlds of the words of the King in Yellow.

>>40576949
Yeah. God was bored out of His mind and here we are. His personal form of entertainment. Watch me bleed, God. I know you enjoy it.

>>40576895 (OP)
Its an indulgence. A detour. A whimsical waste of time.
The only "lesson" to be learned from coming here is that you should not come here.

>>40576895 (OP)
There is no point. You make it along the way.

>>40577641
No I don't have my own "innerworld" God thinks he has a right to rape my mind and abuse me for my literal thoughts in my mind, he rapes my mind every second of every day and terrorizes, harasses, threatens, abuses etc me for literally any thought that enters my mind constantly all day every day. When I die he just force-reincarnates me and the afterlife is the womb in the next life and God tries to control my dreams in negative ways just as he controls reality right now, dreams are only sightly better because I have some ability to resist his control compared to real life where I have 0 control but God is a retard for trying to pretend that it will somehow make up for being abused by him for 30+ years on earth to be abused by him for 9 months in the womb.

>>40582010
I don't think thats god, I dont know know what to say, do you hear voices or something? You may just be broken anon, its up to you to put the pieces back together.

>>40579473
>I think the gods want for us what they would want for themselves.
The God i grew up worshipping, Krishna, caused my life to become miserable when I stopped worshipping him. I don't know which Gods to ask for help because the only spirituality that I actually like now are Taoism and Korean Shamanism and I'm not East Asian and I don't speak any of their languages. I don't believe in the new age and NDE theory about us having a soul mission and life purpose and being lightworkers even though I really have seen angel numbers in ways that I don't think were a coincidence. I think we exist just to exist and that Gods (and also some demons) control our human level of reality and reside in a higher level of reality than us. I want to know how I can escape this torture without having to attempt suicide or be a slave to a God of a Dharmic religion which teaches karma that tells me that I deserved the abuse that was done to me as a child all the way even now into adulthood.

>>40576895 (OP)
Why are past lives forgotten, according to Spiritism?
According to The Spirits' Book by Allan Kardec and the Spiritist doctrine, the forgetting of past lives is a natural and beneficial necessity for the soul’s evolution. This topic is addressed in Part Two, Chapter VII – Return to Corporeal Life, Item: Forgetfulness of the Past (questions 392 to 399). Here's a summary of the key points and the reasons for this forgetfulness:

Why do we forget past lives in Spiritism?
1. To allow a new experience free from trauma and emotional burdens:

If we remembered everything we did wrong or the harm others caused us, we would struggle to interact with others fairly and freely in this new life. It would be like carrying a heavy emotional burden.

2. To ensure the freedom of free will:

The soul needs to make new and genuine decisions. If it remembered everything, it might act out of fear, guilt, or resentment — not from real moral growth.

3. The past influences us even without conscious memory:

Even if we don’t consciously recall the past, the experience is imprinted on the Spirit. It shows itself in our tendencies, intuitions, fears, innate talents, and spontaneous likes or dislikes.

4. Forgetfulness is like a protective veil:

Kardec uses the metaphor of a veil drawn over the past. It is a form of divine mercy, allowing us to focus on the present without being trapped by the past.

So, how are lessons learned?
Even though we don’t remember the exact events, we retain the moral and spiritual consequences of those experiences. For example:

A person who abused power in a past life may reincarnate in a humble position and naturally feel drawn to act with justice.

Someone who once suffered injustices may be born with a deep sensitivity to others’ suffering, even without knowing why.

The lessons are recorded in the soul, not in the brain, and they express themselves through our conscience, values, character, and the challenges we face.

>>40576895 (OP)
>>40585176
Are those memories ever recovered?
Yes. According to Spiritism:

In the spirit world, after physical death, the Spirit can recall its past lives depending on its level of moral development.

Some memories may surface partially during sleep, deep meditation, hypnosis, or strong intuitions.

As the soul becomes purer and more elevated, it becomes capable of handling more of its past with wisdom and without disturbance.

In summary:
Forgetting the past is an educational tool. It doesn’t erase what has been learned but protects the soul so it can learn better.

The key is to live the present well, because that’s where the opportunities for repair and growth are.

>>40585176
>>40585182
Well okay can I insist I'm not coming back here.

>>40576895 (OP)
And he continued on in that way until he did not care anymore. Life, and death, the same.