>My snake died two and a half weeks ago.
>Most precious of pets, ailed by a zinc pellet in a feeder
>Hold her and stay with her all the way at the vet
>Feel empty, appetite dies
>Basically force myself to snack on a few things, can't seem to eat meat at all
>After a while, abstaining from meat is the only thing that remains
>I just keep having a moral schizm play in my head, where I just see packaged meat as my late snake
>I feel this sense of suffering
>Try to reconcile these emotions. Create internal restrictions:
>"I will not consume flesh of anything capable of recognizing its own suffering."
>Started finding alternatives, generally small schooling fish, bivalves, crustaceans like shrimp, eggs, dairy

Two weeks now after the fact and Im thinking clearer and stronger, feeling emotions stronger, losing weight, my pets behave more positively towards me (personally I feel), and my dreams are more vivid.

Fuck, I was wrong the whole time.

I’ve been a pescatarian for a few years now. Welcome to the club, but this isn’t exactly /x/.

>>40592485 (OP)
dairy cows and chickens producing eggs are acutely aware of their suffering lol

>>40592516
As are fish. Even plants send electrochemical signals to other plants nearby when one is hurt or dies. Vegetarianism, and pescatarianism more evidently, are forms of wishful deceit.

>>40592525
Fish and vegetables are too retarded to have thoughts

>>40592525
yeah, there was just some study done talking about how fish feel pain and suffocation etc.
we're predators, there's no way around it.

>>40592530
Post it

>>40592540
it was performed specifically on rainbow trout
https://www.sciencealert.com/fish-suffer-up-to-22-minutes-of-intense-pain-when-taken-out-of-water

most humane thing to do is that japanese technique where they hammer a nail straight into its brain, makes the meat better too cause no stress hormones in it

>>40592543
In my opinion this would be like saying a robot feels pain because it has a “pain” variable set to the Boolean value of true

Yeah, fish are more complicated than a robot, but they’re also very simple-minded. They don’t meet my (admittedly arbitrary) threshold of consciousness. I’d bite a fish’s head off without hesitation.

>>40592568
fair enough

>>40592491
Ah, its just that I didnt think it would affect my dreams this much. The recall keeps improving so I thought that was paranormal aspect.

>>40592725
Nah, just an increase in omega-3s. Congrats on healthfulness!

>>40592568
>this would be like saying a robot feels pain because it has a “pain” variable set to the Boolean value of true
There is nothing you can point to that makes this different than how any human works.

>>40592568
It’s literally just limbic brain emotions like adrenaline, that all animals have. Just because they don’t have a prefrontal cortex doesn’t mean they don’t feel those emotions. It’s those fear neurotransmitters that make animals run away from you, even fish.

I admire what you’re trying to do though. It’s noble to not want to cause suffering. But denying reality won’t help.

>>40592725
vegetarianism is the first occult law.

>>40592737
do you really think dreams come from oil

>>40592792
>>40592826
Fish don’t have a neocortex and aren’t capable of metacognition, unlike birds and mammals.

But it’s subjective, sure, and arbitrary. It’s just where I decided to draw the line.

>>40592837
fish have thoughts, feelings, souls, and an afterlife

>>40592836
I know consuming thc and cbd reduces dream frequency. So why wouldn't other consumed molecules work the other way?

>>40592837
Honestly the main thing you should worry about is not getting enough of certain micronutrients. Red meat is really good for you in terms of nutrition. Our huge brains need a lot of sustenance.

>>40592844
I prepare all of my own meals and track all micronutrients in Excel. My diet is perfect, and I see a doctor twice a year for a checkup. Thanks for the concern! A lot of people on narrow diets fail, but I have autism and am on top of it.

>>40592870
Birch tree sap is a great spring drink. Drink between 125 to 250ml a day will bring you a bunch of nutrients.
I make my own, pasterize it and consume until autumn.

>>40592921
Sounds like that’d just be sugar water, and I try to keep sugar to a minimum.

One of my tricks for nutrients is nutritional yeast. It’s a complete protein, contains fiber, and has a lot of the B vitamins that normies get from fortified junk foods. I add it to my steamed brussels, omelettes, or sardines almost every day with a little bit of olive oil.

>>40592837
>Fish don’t have a neocortex and aren’t capable of metacognition
None of that is relevant to pain, which was your claim about robots.
>arbitrary. It’s just where I decided to draw the line.
Yes. You can admit there is no logic behind it.

>>40592485 (OP)
Its not so much about you eating meat as it is that you recognized the animals you eat can suffer.
What if I told you plants scream at high decibel levels when injured or distressed, but at ultrasonic frequencies which don't blow your eardrums out?
I'm also not saying don't continue your diet, but to give thanks for the fact that you get to eat on your terms, show gratitude for everything it took to bring your meal to you, and appreciate that it sustains your own life.

>>40593196
Uh, yes, that’s what I said. I wouldn’t argue that we should eat humans without a brain, so yes, it’s an arbitrary line that every individual must set. I eat fish, I eat eggs, and I don’t eat cows, pigs, or chickens. I don’t force my choices on anyone else, though I do encourage everyone to eat a nutrient-rich diet of whole foods.

I should add that I mainly eat simple sea life, and it’s all responsibly sourced rather than farmed. It’s the cruel farming conditions that really turned me off most meats. I don’t like the idea of humans creating animal life solely to consume it.

>>40592568
>They don’t meet my (admittedly arbitrary) threshold of consciousness.
can you prove you do without arbitration?

>>40592836
you dont meat alot of goldstar vegetarians but they just dont age like carnivores or converts

>>40593206
This. Your story is important OP, but all creatures to some degree are capable of recognizing their own suffering, we're just unable to really sympathize with them as easily since their experience is more alien to us. It really is about gratitude at the end of the day since the cycle of violence is necessary to support life as we know it, at least that's my piece.
I'm sorry about your snake, deaths like that are just the worst.

>>40593206
the apple tree makes an apple with the intention that it is wholely consumed by a bear, apple seeds grow better if passed though the body of a bear, the cherry is the same for man. there are parts of the plant that do not wish to be eaten such as bulb stalk and leaf, but the fruits are presented to be consumed.

>>40593390
That’s ethical fruitarian logic. Unfortunately, humans can’t survive on fruit alone, so many of them get horribly sick — especially if they strip it of fiber. Many blame the death of Steve Jobs on his excessive fruit juicing.

>>40593291
>Uh, yes
No one cares about your blog or your diet. Just that you can admit your unreasonable line.

>>40593648
It’s literally the topic of the thread, retard.