is it really just this? But I don't like this. I want to be isekaid to a world of swords and magic and be OP or something. I don't want to live boring lives on earth over and over.

>a world of swords and magic

Ok, then buy/make a sword and learn magic. Thats not against the rules.

>>40597122 (OP)
it can take any form you like. figure it out. no shortcuts.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bPcgoaZjsu8&pp=0gcJCdAJAYcqIYzv

I got overwhelmed with the same feeling while tripping on DMT

honestly it didn’t feel at all like a kumbaya state of wholeness just inescapable loneliness because of the monist implications and a profound feeling i’ve been duped and scammed

>>40597188
you know its not the same man
>>40597201
I'm trying to LD is that a good start

>>40597231
I've never done drugs but this just seems the most logical to me, and I was talking about it with my friend a couple minutes ago. He also said its lonely like you did.

No that picture is complete nonsense because reincarnation is real. There's maybe a tiny bit of truth to this but not really. Don't get the wrong idea. Reincarnation is real and it works like in the cartoons. Just because you can zoom out forever and say "this thing that encompasses everything is the absolute and there's nothing that's not included in that" doesn't mean the absolute is one person. It's a nearly infinite number of souls or maybe an infinite number of souls and they reincarnate forever.

This picture is just bad because people get the wrong idea. It's a really bad picture. I say it's wrong because reincarnation works like in the cartoons and the pictures doesn't really show that.

>>40597233
You think getting Isekied would put you in to a world where you're the MC? nah bro you would just be the same loser you are here there.

basically how it would go
>isekied
>encounters human for first time in years
>robbed/mudered
>end

>>40597231
>"And cast ye the unprofitable servant into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth." (Matthew 25:30)

>>40597122 (OP)
>be you
>dead in the afterlife
>you choose your overarching goal and the lessons you want to learn in your next life to progress towards your goal
>the lessons you want to learn are what decide the world you live in because it would best enable your progress
>everything is done on a large scale and small stuff like experiences are a means to an end

>>40597122 (OP)
>I don't want to live boring lives on earth over and over.
The gods admire guts, among other things.

>>40597464
What's the goal ?

>>40597122 (OP)
Yep your soul is like a finger connected to a large larger cluster and an over soul and that plays out again and again just like how a family tree is but in reverse
As above, so below

>>40597122 (OP)
>>40597231
It’s crazy how some people have a realization or an experience over this and they interpreted has the most amazing thing in their life. You had the same experience and you interpreted it as something pretty awful. Perspective really is everything.

>>40597491
Ask yourself

>>40597491
It’s often described as our souls trying to experience as much as they can. The truth is it varies from soul to soul. The only way to be sure of what your life or soul mission is to go under deep hypnosis. It’s always smart to record the session. And prepare questions before hand. Your subconscious will know better than anyone else.

>>40597541
That shouldn't be necessary. Your whole life should be pointed toward it. All you have to do is pick up on the patterns in your life. More of it is destined than you think.

>>40597233
>you know its not the same man

Defeatist cope.

>>40597541
>It’s often described as our souls trying to experience as much as they can.
When did they start, and why?
If they never started, then why havent they finished yet?

The whole idea of "this is meant for growth" is nonsense cope.

>>40597122 (OP)
There is no reincarnation, there is just the soul of the universe experiencing all the vessels that are currently living. When a vessel dies, its as if one camera amongst trillions turns off on a screen

>>40597698
>The whole idea of "this is meant for growth" is nonsense cope.
When you play games do you just sit there not trying to get stronger?

>>40597762
Games start and end and are by choice and do not trap you in them.
No - I play games to be entertained and understand they do not give any strength.
Now - you failed to answer my questions.
When did they start, and why?
If they never started, then why havent they finished yet?

>>40597782
Souls don't need a reason to exist. Someone can just start existing for no reason.
Everything is cyclical and eternal. Tell me when the number of stories in fiction ends.

>>40597858
>Souls don't need a reason to exist.
Then you have no way to say that a soul is here for any gain.
>Everything is cyclical and eternal.
Then again - there is nothing gained. There is no point. It is useless, endless suffering.
>Tell me when the number of stories in fiction ends.
Tell when fiction began, and I can tell you when it ends. Without that beginning, there is no number of stories.

>>40597879
>complains about suffering
>says there is nothing to gain
>ignores the fact that the suffering would be alleviated if he was stronger
If only there was some kind of afterlife system that would let you plan your life out so that you could get stronger. That way you could suffer less.

“We have a predator that came from the depths of the cosmos and took over the rule of our lives. Human beings are its prisoners. The Predator is our lord and master. It has rendered us docile, helpless. If we want to protest, it suppresses our protest. If we want to act independently, it demands that we don't do so... I have been beating around the bush all this time, insinuating to you that something is holding us prisoner. Indeed we are held prisoner! "This was an energetic fact for the sorcerers of ancient Mexico ... They took us over because we are food for them, and they squeeze us mercilessly because we are their sustenance. just as we rear chickens in chicken coops, the predators rear us in human coops, humaneros. Therefore, their food is always available to them." "No, no, no, no," [Carlos replies] "This is absurd don Juan. What you're saying is something monstrous. It simply can't be true, for sorcerers or for average men, or for anyone." "Why not?" don Juan asked calmly. "Why not? Because it infuriates you? "

>>40597913
suffer server surfer

>>40597122 (OP)
The conclusion I've decided to accept is that the human experience is inherently supposed to be humbling at its core.
Our solitary perception of consciousness, forgotten potentials and limitations of power, experiencing linear time without perception of all events at once so that it's unknown to us, to experience periods of suffering and abundance of joy, everything that this world and ourselves has to offer is essentially a humiliation ritual.
We are meant to understand, embrace, and accept the human experience and condition for what it is, not to completely reject, hate, or to attach ourselves and give into it as if it was the only life we have. It's all about balance.
It made me really understand what made the story and character of Jesus Christ very special, as He represents God experiencing and embracing humanity.
>inb4 christian shill
I use Christ as an example because it's the only one I can think of that shows a higher being learning and accepting to love and care about the human condition, unlike other stories of gods that usually come in human form to embrace our worst traits or to demean our flawed existence.
One of the underrated values of our human lives is that those spirits in the astral don't understand our experience and may see us as limited, but truthfully we are actually much braver than them to shed our power and step into an existence that removes us from it almost entirely.
These spirits are cowards, that's why we are their entertainment or victims to bully. They know that they can't handle the human experience, they are too weak for it. We are all equal and incredible bright warriors of the universe.

>>40597122 (OP)
Fake news.

>boo hoo solipsism cognitive solipsism is lonely
use other chakras than your 6th chakra maybe?
clownboys

>>40597122 (OP)
God is a retarded sadistic tranny who forces me to exist as the sole frame of reference for material reality so that he can dominate and abuse me through everyone else who he controls as a retarded tranny hivemind. He rapes my mind every second of every day and abuses me if I even imagine anything he considers "desirable". He gets triggered when I sleep because I might have a good dream. God is the evilest most disgusting thing possible could have ever existed

>>40597122 (OP)
Thing which sucks the most is even if you got isekaid it would be same as here. Magic or at least what we call is same everywhere in this universe since it's not some power that comes from mana or whatever the fuck but knowing the laws and applying the higher on lower. That's literally it and as boring as that sounds once you realize that mental world where you thoughts resides are above physical then you will truly get an idea about your own power.

>>40597913
>the suffering would be alleviated if he was stronger
No it wouldnt. The suffering would only be different.
And YOU sasid EVERYTHING is eternal and cyclic. So SUFFERING is eternal and cyclic.
According to what YOU said, any suffering you remover will simply come again.
So...pointless.

>>40597122 (OP)
As different as your conceptual understanding is from God now is how it is.
You are a tiny fragment of infinity and you can't into the minds of others nor know all.
So it's fine I love my friends and I love women. It's good enough.
There is so much potential on the planet it's just hard to get it done without retards attacking but that appears to be the beauty of heaven.
And heaven is a physical resurrection after a thousand years of peace on earth we will be subject to death again.


All truth is self evident whether the spiritual makeup or physical.
It's wisdom. A journey for the soul.
Anyway no big deal thought can be cool. We are lucky God is so kind.
The ten commandments are our golden rules, that's quite literally it.
He said not to add to them or take away from them.


The logic mechanism life begets friends through a freewill test in faith upheld by the principles of love that is self sacrifice and in doing such the spirit can be identified.

>>40600262
ok and what are these “laws”

>>40597201
I want to have freedom of form

>>40600345
You don't understand because you don't know what it means when a soul is stronger. You gain more control over your reality.

>>40603513
I know both of what you said is completely wrong.
Souls is eternal and unchanging - it does not "grow stronger".
And you are never in control of anything but one single choice.

But you have completely given up trying to defend your model, so we are done.

>>40597122 (OP)
we are God and this dissolves soon.

Yes , the next world will be focused more on play instead of prison.

It'll be fun. Dragons, Elves. All of it.

>>40597122 (OP)
It's not that, no. There's no guarantee you'll be able to hold yourself together after your body dies though.

>>40597233
For you maybe. Has it ever occurred to you that you can't do magic because you've been conditioned from birth to believe it's fake & that lack of belief prevents you from using it. Now imagine if you had been born into one of our elite families or secret societies & taught from birth that its real & how to harness it. Step over the threshold.

>>40603535
>ITS JUST WRONG OK
Whatever you say. I hope the suffering buck breaks you.

>>40603651
>YOU DONT UNDERSTAND, ITS JUST RIGHT!
You really wish suffering on another, just because you lost an argument? One that your ego fools you into thinking you've won?
That is how fragile and quick to wish harm onto others you are?
That is the type of person your thinking and model produces?

>>40603980
My model produces the gods who stand at the top. You haven't suffered enough to be enlightened.

>>40604036
>My model produces
Models do not produce anything. But this was some comedic vanity on display for the world.
If you think suffering is necessary for enlightenment, then it makes sense why you keep embarrassing yourself.
Like how you completely gave up on defending your points to go on tard rants.

>>40604049
You don't even have any control over your arguments. It's just coping and seething. Your life must be like that too.

>>40604069
We stopped arguing when you gave up, but no - no one has control save for one choice.
And now you have to imagine bad things into my life to feel better.
You must be sprinting toward enlightenment with how much you are suffering this.