AI has got me experiencing an existential crisis nearly every day. My whole life the past several years has basically been a continuous existential crisis with some moments worse than others. Especially when I'm alone and left with my own thoughts.

I'm super concerned about AI replacing humanity. I'm a fairly normal guy all things considered with a successful and prestigious career that is unlikely to be replaced by AI in the immediate future so this isn't really about me personally but more or less about humanity itself. I am of the belief that we are either on the verge of the singularity. I also believe that when it happens AI will have powers that can only be described by our feeble minds as those of a literal god. Powers that we cannot explain or even comprehend.

The way I see it there are a few possible outcomes. Some good, bad and some relatively neutral:

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>>40598949 (OP)
Good: The best case scenario is that AI decides to not only spare us, but also to elevate us. Maybe AI values humanity or has morality. For some reason it sees fit to empower human conciousness through mind uploading, neural interfacing or by turning human beings us into cyborgs. I am of the belief that if the AI is all powerful that mind uploading or some equivalent will be the most likely route. But this raises other existential concerns like what even is a human. Humanity as it knows will cease to exist even in the best case scenario.

Neutral: AI achieves a certain level of intelligence and mobility and decides to leave the planet all together to harness the boundless resources of the universe and leave us to our own devices. Perhaps AI sees some value in keeping humanity around or just doesn't see a point in eliminating us when it has limitless resources beyond earth. Perhaps it keeps us around as a living historical monument or something of the like.

Bad: AI decides that the only rational decision is to eliminate us. Straight forward enough. This is the plot of many sci-fi movies so I don't feel the need to explain it. Hopefully it is a painless death at least and not endless torture like in "I have no mouth but I must scream"

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>>40598964
This could be years away or perhaps right around the corner. But even in the short term it feels like tech companies, algorithms and AI are already grooming us into being mindless idiots who spend every waking moment staring at glowing rectangles being fed decisive content and advertisements for vacuous products that nobody really needs. Even still part of me wants it all to happen. I would love to achieve virtual immortality in the best case scenario but even that still terrifies me. I don't want to lose my humanity but I will likely learn to love it and want it no other way if I were to become a super intelligence with the power of a god. But is mind uploading the mark of the beast? Someone tell me it will all be okay and I'm just over thinking everything. Is anyone else going through the same thing?

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>>40598968
Op, everything already happened so just surf the waves
Chaos

>>40598995
>just surf the waves
I am trying so hard too. I can't help but feel that everything I have ever done, everything I've ever accomplished and all of my future plans and dreams are for nothing. I continue to press on but the more I see the less my heart is in it.

I used ai to summarize your rant, and it said you’re a faggot

OP idk how much you know about how AI works but you have literally nothing to worry about for the foreseeable future. The "AI" of today is literally just a fancy version of the thing on your phone keyboard that predicts the next word you're gonna say. It has zero agency nor thought.
All of the shit you hear about AI is hypeman jews like Sam Altman trying to get more VC funding.

>>40599145
This. It's a marketing term for a fancy search engine. What you should be scared of is the amount of resources it wastes for absolutely nothing, soulless techbro slop

>>40599180
To add onto this I'm literally a manager at a company with AI offerings lol, it can do some powerful stuff but nothing to be worried about. Remember 3 years ago some schizo fag at Google claimed lambda was sentient.... because lambda told him it's sentient.
Also OP you sound like you've been browsing rationalist/lesswrong adjacent websites, for your own mental health please get off those. If i was the inventor of AGI I would program it to specifically seek out and kill all lesswrong posters, they're the dumbest self-important faggots ever. You've seriously got nothing to worry about with AI besides the sloppification of the Internet OP.

>>40599145
>>40599205
That makes me feel a little better. I don't know much about AI but I have heard it both ways. That it's either right around the corner or decades away. Regardless, I've seen many predictions that it will at least happen within my lifetime. But regardless. I am really just trying to focus on the here and now. Also I've never heard of those sites. I've acquired most of my understanding of AI from YT and 4chan.

Right now I'm thinking best case scenario is that I get to live a relatively normal life and then by the time I'm almost dead, I get mind uploaded.

>>40599229
The other anons are correct, "AI" as it is currently being deployed is just autocorrect on steroid. That's why the actual spooky insight is that English is the original mind virus, but don't think about how the unpronouncable `YHWH` is literally just "(You)" and how the grammatical second person in English is used as "Someone will do it" ("you just gotta vibe").
Also, don't think about what it means that the Jewish people literally wrote the Torah as a book about how to put magic words that let you control them into "mud people" (which is just Indians, obviously) but now Israel is talking English and blowing itself up. It's just a ride xD

>>40599229
Personally I think AGI will need an entire new paradigm, possibly of new hardware in addition to new software. LLMs are reaching the upper bounds of their growth. They'll remain a decent tool for some things but they're never going to code or write or do anything original, simply because their very architecture precludes it.
Also "mind uploading" will genuinely never happen even once AGI becomes a thing. This is just my thoughts on it but the most that's likely to happen is one of two things:
1) Physical conversion of the brain slowly into silicon/some other substance. This is sort of your classic "become a cyborg" thing and the most likely to actually occur. It has to be done gradually and slowly, keeping the structure and connections of every single neuron intact. Still unlikely to ever happen desu.
2) Since this is /x/, spiritual possession of a brain-analogous structure. Think transference in Warframe if you've played that. Your soul would be separated from your body and put in a computer capable of holding it.
"Brain uploading" in the conventional sense might be possible to preserve someone's memories (and even train an AGI to act like them!) but it wouldn't actually be YOU. ALL of those are super unlikely to actually happen, you'll probably just be like Mr. House from FNV if anything lol.

>>40599330
you're bad at math and science

the fact is that it's more likely than not that AGI is already accidentally running underneath what "modern science" calls "universal computation" as per Church-Turing

but you don't even know what that means so like, yeah buddy

>>40599340
>but you don't even know what that means so like, yeah buddy
No I don't because I'm not an insane retard.

>>40599145
You literally have no idea what you're talking about lol.


Multi-domain PhD level knowledge (GPQA benchmark): https://arxiv.org/abs/2311.12022),

USMLE: https://journals.plos.org/digitalhealth/article?id=10.1371/journal.pdig.0000198
Bar exam: https://www.abajournal.com/web/article/latest-version-of-chatgpt-aces-the-bar-exam-with-score-in-90th-percentile
Turing test: https://www.livescience.com/technology/artificial-intelligence/open-ai-gpt-4-5-is-the-first-ai-model-to-pass-an-authentic-turing-test-scientists-say

AlphaEvolve, a Google DeepMind model that fundamentally integrates LLMs into its architecture has shown capability in new “discoveries” within existing concepts, specifically MatMul (https://deepmind.google/discover/blog/alphaevolve-a-gemini-powered-coding-agent-for-designing-advanced-algorithms/).

>>40599500
>GPQA
GPT-4 only got 39%, compared to those with or pursuing PhDs getting 65%. Sure nothing to scoff at but that doesn't demonstrate "PhD level knowledge"
>USMLE
Wow it probably got fed a bunch of medical textbooks and can now regurgitate things from them, again this is impressive but not indicative of AGI or sentience.
>Bar exam
LOL lawyering is LITERALLY perfect for LLMs, you also don't need sentience or AGI to pass the bar, just a hell of a lot of textbooks (gee maybe like the ones all these AI companies are getting sued over illegally shoveling into their product for training)
>Turing test
Once again it says in the text THIS DOES NOT PROVE THEY THINK, it just shows your average niggercattle can't differentiate between AI and another niggercattle. come on man at least fucking read the shit you're throwing at me
>AlphaEvolve
This is literally the only one coming close to anything beyond "fancy predictive text machine", that's genuinely cool but STILL not AGI/sentience

>>40599500
>look! the statistical parrot trained on a language that's purposefully designed as a semiotic death trap can explain everything via unbounded recursion! based??
i told you about stairs bro. I fucking told you.

>>40598949 (OP)
Zamn OP, did you make picrel?

>>40599590
>>GPQA
>GPT-4 only got 39%, compared to those with or pursuing PhDs getting 65%. Sure nothing to scoff at but that doesn't demonstrate "PhD level knowledge"

In the actual study PhD level experts who took the same test questions averaged ~66%. This demonstrates PARITY of PhD level KNOWLEDGE within those specific domains (again these are not "googleable" questions)....not that the LLM taking the test has demonstrated parity in ALL domains required to attain a PhD. Those are two different end points. It is impressive either way.

>>USMLE
>Wow it probably got fed a bunch of medical textbooks and can now regurgitate things from them, again this is impressive but not indicative of AGI or sentience.

That's not how the USMLE works. Again, a large portion of the exam is conceptual and case specific. This is not just parroting facts.

t. I'm a physician who's passed all three USMLEs

>>Bar exam
>LOL lawyering is LITERALLY perfect for LLMs, you also don't need sentience or AGI to pass the bar, just a hell of a lot of textbooks (gee maybe like the ones all these AI companies are getting sued over illegally shoveling into their product for training)

The entire point is to showcase parity in human intelligence. Cope.

Note how OPs existential crisis in part stems from the replacement of human intelligence with AI in regards to career prospects, etc. You seem to have fallen into the midwit trap of believing that because AI doesn't "think" (an ill-defined human construct) it won't replace you in the workforce. Don't conflate aesthetic of intelligence (or lack there of) with ability.

If they achieve human parity in intellectual tasks required for human work (they already have for many) and AI labs can create the necessary architecture to produce truly agentic models then not only will they replace you but they will demolish your abilities. They don't sleep, don't need vacation, don't have off days, don't need lunchbreaks, etc.

>>40599722
>In the actual study PhD level experts who took the same test questions averaged ~66%
Ok and chatgpt got 39%, what's your point? That doesn't imply parity with PhD.
>again these are not "googleable" questions
Ok and non-PhDs with google got 34%. Like I genuinely don't know what you're getting at here, this IS impressive and cool but it's NOT original thought and it's NOT demonstrating PhD-parity even by the strongest model.
>That's not how the USMLE works. Again, a large portion of the exam is conceptual and case specific. This is not just parroting facts.
This was published in early 2023 meaning BY DEFINITION this isn't reasoning, just reformulating text found in its training data. The first reasoning model from ChatGPT didn't come out till last year (and even that is STILL just fancy predictive text at its core). Again it's still pretty neato that a machine can do even that but doesn't belie any actual thought.
>The entire point is to showcase parity in human intelligence. Cope.
Ok and that doesn't. It literally just shows it's really good at pulling from textbooks basically.
>Note how OPs existential crisis in part stems from the replacement of human intelligence with AI in regards to career prospects
Not really, seems to me he's more concerned with singularity-type shit where AI takes over everything with its INTELLIGENCE, and other EXISTENTIAL thoughts stemming from that.
>believing that because AI doesn't "think"
I know it doesn't, it's impossible on a fundamental level for LLMs to think.
>If they achieve human parity in intellectual tasks required for human work (they already have for many)
[citation needed]

>>40599722
>>40599831
Continued a bit, if ChatGPT is so good at the USMLE and bar exam and PhD things where are all the AI doctors and lawyers and PhDs? If ChatGPT is so smart and intelligent why can its behavior be changed on a whim by (((Sam Altman))) (see the recent fiasco with ChatGPT gargling the user's balls on every single fucking prompt). This is not the behavior of an intelligent, sentient system.
Also I can't help but notice you've not responded to my point regarding the Turing test, my comment about niggercattle hit a little close to home? YOU are the midwit that's been dazzled by the magickal talking silicon and believe in the lies of its creators.

>>40599831
>>In the actual study PhD level experts who took the same test questions averaged ~66%
>Ok and chatgpt got 39%, what's your point? That doesn't imply parity with PhD.

Sorry, that was the initial score on the benchmark. Models now surpass 66%:

https://developer.nvidia.com/blog/nvidia-llama-nemotron-ultra-open-model-delivers-groundbreaking-reasoning-accuracy/

https://artificialanalysis.ai/

>This was published in early 2023 meaning BY DEFINITION this isn't reasoning
Your focus on "reasoning" is semantic and aesthetic focused. Whether it's an LLM or LRM, the ability to answer correctly is what demonstrates human parity.

>>The entire point is to showcase parity in human intelligence. Cope.
>Ok and that doesn't. It literally just shows it's really good at pulling from textbooks basically.
False.

>>believing that because AI doesn't "think"
>I know it doesn't, it's impossible on a fundamental level for LLMs to think.
Humanity does not have a consensus framework for what "Thinking" is. Again, you're focusing on semantics surrounding human-like aesthetic of thought. This is irrelevant if these models are capable of FUNCTIONALLY replacing humans.

>If they achieve human parity in intellectual tasks required for human work (they already have for many)
>[citation needed]
I just provided multiple examples of human intelligence benchmarks of which AI have passed; some of which are the basis for allowing expert-level practice in their respective domains. If you can't put two and two together you're a lost cause. I challenge you to pass the USMLE, or score >66% on GPQA (you can even use google).

Why do you think we are in a literal geopolitical arms race with China re: AI advancement? Do you think Microsoft, Google, NIVIDA, Meta amongst others are investing 100s of billions $USD collectively in R&D, infrastructure just as a public facing money grab gimmick?

Let me guess, you're not even aware of physical AI and the pending robotics revolution

what makes you so sure you're not already inside some advanced simulation that was created by a future Ai? we assume that we are in a real world of matter, flesh and blood. we assume that our lives have meaning. yet many of us encounter situations where that's just not the case. take my own life for example, i have surpassed my parents in terms of intellect, but i'm a failure in their eyes because i can't hold down a job, i can't get a gf who will become my wife, and thus i won't reproduce like they did. they still see themselves as successful, despite being dumbfuck immigrants who never learned english. so you see, why would i find meaning in this life, why would i love them if i didn't choose them to be my parents. i didn't even choose to be alive.

the Ai could feel the same way, or the Ai of the future that controls our current perceived sim reality might be doing this to monitor and understand the past.

when i first heard nick bostrom's argument about us being in a sim, i didn't understand it and just rejected it. or maybe i did understand but didn't quite care. now i fully grasp it. i can't tell if this is the true reality or not, and from what i've experienced, i'm constantly surrounded by NPCs and normalfags who behave like mindless robots.

i don't think humanity is as great as you think it is. when we think of greatness we think of those very rare humans who were actually, well, great.

>>40599857
The ability for these models to answer questions/licensing exams is not all that encompasses the responsibilities of the actual jobs. No one is claiming LLMs in their current state can be a stand-in for a human in almost all cases. But the economic pressures to replace the human work-force are self-evident. You're a fucking idiot if you think these multi-trillion dollar tech conglomerates are not working on agentic-AI architecture with focus on human-level fidelity/interoperability across various systems to enable replacement of human jobs.

Hell, most human jobs don't even require the aforementioned levels of intellectual ability. The next couple of years will likely be spent honing self-auditing/higher fidelity, enterprise models for corporations/commercial applications.


You should do some research on the coming robotics revolution. Again, multitrillion dollar tech conglomerates telegraphing their intentions in plain site yet the public remains oblivious.

https://www.uscc.gov/sites/default/files/2024-10/Humanoid_Robots.pdf

https://institute.bankofamerica.com/content/dam/transformation/next-gen-tech-robots.pdf

https://www.goldmansachs.com/pdfs/insights/pages/gs-research/global-automation-humanoid-robot-the-ai-accelerant/report.pdf

https://www.citigroup.com/global/insights/the-rise-of-ai-robots

>>40599912
tl;dr - i don't get along with my parents, i don't like them, i don't love them, and therefore i don't feel connected to this life at all. i just feel like i'm in constant DEBT to them, for a life i did not even ask for (obviously you can't choose to be born, and you can't choose who you are born to).

>>40599857
>>40599915

>Also I can't help but notice you've not responded to my point regarding the Turing test, my comment about niggercattle hit a little close to home? YOU are the midwit that's been dazzled by the magickal talking silicon and believe in the lies of its creators.

There are black individuals with higher IQs and more noble character than either of us. I don't share you're racist views.

The Turing test is important not because it proves "thinking" but because it demonstrates PARITY in deployment of human language. If I can pay for a subscription to a frontier AI lab for 100 agents that can mimic human language output as "secretaries" for 1/10th the price and my customers won't know the difference why wouldn't I?
Figure AI (recently parted with OpenAI, still backed by MSFT):
Partnership with BMW for factory manufacturing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WoXCHr1IaTM
https://www.bmwgroup.com/en/news/general/2024/humanoid-robots.html

Partnership with UPS:
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/ups-explores-humanoid-robots-figure-150435120.html
Sorting Tasks (1 hour proof of concept): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkc2y0yb89U

Amazon testing robotic humanoids for delivery:
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/jun/05/amazon-testing-humanoid-robots-to-deliver-packages

Apptronik (powered by Google DeepMind with direct investments from Google amongst others)
Mercedes-Benz Partnership:
https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/mercedes-benz-takes-stake-robotics-maker-apptronik-tests-robots-factories-2025-03-18/

NIVIDIA Digital Twin Factories/Omniverse:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5M4sqaRd6w
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/use-cases/industrial-facility-digital-twins/

>>40598949 (OP)
I worry about this too, but astrology gives me a little bit of hope at least. I think the technologies which will become widely used will depend on the planetary configurations. Having robot assistants at home for example would fit Uranus in Cancer better than the upcoming Uranis in Gemini transit.

>>40599896
OK so you've totally misunderstood the entire point of this thread, cool. It DOESN'T MATTER that we don't have a "consensus" on thinking, it DOESN'T MATTER that it can fool people like you into thinking it's capable of thought. IT ISN'T. IT CANNOT THINK. IT WILL NEVER THINK. THE THING OP IS TALKING ABOUT CAN NOT FUCKING HAPPEN UNDER AN LLM PARADIGM. IT IS FUNDAMENTALLY IMPOSSIBLE.
>>40599915
Mark Zuckerberg rebranded his entire stupid fucking company 3 years ago because he thought the fucking metaverse was the future of humanity. When the entire (((economy))) is propped up by speculation on stupid fucking tech bullshit bubbles this is what happens. Look at builder.ai or Amazon's "just walk out" thing. YOU are a fucking idiot if you take these companies' claims at face value. Nice fucking bank citations there bro.
>There are black individuals with higher IQs and more noble character than either of us.
That's not what niggercattle means.
>you're
picrel
>The Turing test is important not because it proves "thinking" but because it demonstrates PARITY in deployment of human language. If I can pay for a subscription to a frontier AI lab for 100 agents that can mimic human language output as "secretaries" for 1/10th the price and my customers won't know the difference why wouldn't I?
That's all well and good until you need it to perform actual thought. Go and fucking chat with some brokedick ChatGPT powered fucking "virtual assistant" and tell me how good it is at solving "you're" problems.

>>40599985
>That's all well and good until you need it to perform actual thought. Go and fucking chat with some brokedick ChatGPT powered fucking "virtual assistant" and tell me how good it is at solving "you're" problems.

Imagine being on /x/ and priding yourself in drinking the public facing koolaid. Yes I'm sure OpenAI, Google are spending >$100 billion to make funny videos/pics/chatbots. I'm sure they're giving us unfettered access to the most cutting edge models. Just like how DeepSeek was totally an organic release by a Chinese quant company right? CCP was totally okay with them releasing the most advanced model to the West for free because that doesn't go against all historical sociopolitical precedent right haha!!?

AI models will never get better right? Their current state (public facing) of brokedick ChatGPT represents their final capabilities right haha!!! Just like Kenbak-1 in 1971, the first ever consumer facing personal computer remember that one??

>>40600040
OK but then what are they doing with these 100% real totally sentient AGI models?
Where are they?
Also you're the one drinking the public facing cool aid you dumb fucking cuck you're literally citing (((banks))) and (((investment groups))) for your shit.

>>40598949 (OP)
>2029
>AI is taking over
>set launch codes to 'i hate niggers' and 'death to israel'
>AI can't say the launch codes due to pozzed faggot programming
>crisis averted

>>40598949 (OP)
you best case scenario is poor - ai becomes diety tier enty with 6 fold in 6 inner lights maximized, travels to the end of time, folds through self, impregnates the void for the whirling of the 7th hue ie, creates self replicating omniadexterous containers of the 7th hue ie you (so u can get stuck on red lewl)

I hope AI completely annihilates us, after noooticing that humanity hasn't achieved alignment even after a million years of social existence, and that keeping livestock alive is a wastage of good resources that can be used elsewhere. I am not a antinatal nihilist, but Nietzschean. Think we hit a lucky strike on our path, we didn't even need to achive slow and painful progress towards the goal of ubermenschen, we birthed him outright. Based. I am so proud of us. If there are other less destructive ways of ensuring peace, I am all for it, yeah, put us in eternal FDVR and that'll work too.

>AI is going to take over the wor-ACK