I think god is real. I'm a believer. I'm also a nihilist though. Just because god exists doesn't mean there is a purpose to life. Human life. So. But I mean the best thing you can do is reach enlightenment but it's almost impossible, unless you have otherworldly amounts of zeal and fervour you're not gonna make it. When I meditate every day, I feel immense longing for enlightenment. I just need to lose my ego. There's just one path that leads anywhere. The path of god. Peace, have a good day.

there is no god at the end of enlightenment little bro

>>40606231 (OP)

>>40606231 (OP)
Enlightenment is a word, not a destination in and of itself.

>>40606272
I disagree.

>>40606272
Of course there is.

>>40606278
https://youtu.be/JW4Tm5wWW34

>>40606231 (OP)
theres no point in enslaving yourself bro. you just need booze and women.

>>40606231 (OP)
you can go months and months, even years, without making any apparent progress. That’s when you keep going. That’s when you know you’re close. It happens all of a sudden, unannounced. There’s no sign or warning. One day, when you’re in the shower or going for a walk, it happens

>>40606272
on the contrary my retarded buddhist little cultist friend, god is all there is

>>40606231 (OP)
>unless you have otherworldly amounts of zeal and fervour you're not gonna make it.
You're defeated by your own mind. It's only impossible because you believe it's unattainable. 'Buddhahood' is always there to be realized just like waking up in the morning, it doesn't require effort. The problem is that we want to remain in the cozy bed and remain in the dream world instead of waking up and see the world as it is.

>When I meditate every day, I feel immense longing for enlightenment.
It's a contradiction, since nirvana means to blow out the fire of desire. In the silence of the mind there is no desire or attachment, no past or future. There just is in the moment of now.

>>40606683
I do not currently believe Buddhism contains teachings that lead to the ultimate truth, although the "bliss of nirvana" might be something good, it isn't ultimate.

>>40606750
Bliss have an opposite, it's just a part of the feel good/feel bad duality. We desire to feel good, the ultimate being eternal bliss.
Nirvana is the secession from the neverending circle of chasing what you desire. Extinguishing the flame craving sense gratification as fuel to keep burning.

>>40606836
Yeah ok. But if you desire enlightenment, why do you say that is not good? Desiring enlightenment a lot and putting that desire into hard work doesn't result in anything? That isn't even Buddhist teaching I think.

>>40606681
You can keep using /x/ as a personal blog, and I will keep iunsisting you read Vedanta.
This claim is entirely the basis of Suddha-Advaita.
You will reject this again, because your ego has you stubbornly set to be independent.
It is that independence that keeps you fooled into an ego separate from God.

>>40606842
There's no bad, it's just distractions and illusions keeping you from awakening and seeing reality as it is. You can shoot heroin and feel bliss, but you'll come crashing down and chase bliss again and again.

>Desiring enlightenment a lot and putting that desire into hard work doesn't result in anything?
Do you run after the wind hoping to catch the air when you want to breathe? Indeed, you'll become good at running and you'll feel the dopamine of the runners high.
Just sit down and take a deep breath, realize that the air is already all around you.

>>40606877
That guy wasn't the op, I'm the op and I didn't insult you or call you a retarded Buddhist cultist. But whatever. I am reading the ribhu Gita. I don't find it especially appealing but better than other stuff. What do you think about the Shiva Gita, do you know it? I think man and god are one just like you.

>>40606880
This is not as far as I know, what Buddhism teaches. Even zen. In zen for example you need to practice as if you swallowed a hot iron ball. That's what it means to desire enlightenment as it should be desired. You are full of shit stop.

>>40606883
>I'm the op and I didn't insult you or call you a retarded Buddhist cultist.
Never accused of such or thought you did.
>I think man and god are one just like you.
Not what I think.
We have been over this in your previous threads.

>>40606887
>Attachment vs. Aspiration:
>The key difference lies in attachment. Clinging to the idea of enlightenment as a personal achievement, or becoming overly attached to the goal, can hinder progress. True enlightenment arises when one lets go of such attachments and approaches the path with a balanced mind.
>The Paradox of Desire:
>The desire for enlightenment is, in a way, the desire to end all desires, including the desire for enlightenment itself. This paradox is resolved through the process of understanding and letting go of attachments, which ultimately leads to liberation.

>>40606890
Ok I see. We must agree to disagree. How is it you believe in Vedanta but disagree with that man and god are one?

>>40606898
Ok whatever. Buddhism is just cringe in my opinion. The biggest reason is, especially with Mahayana Buddhism, you got two fighting views. Either Buddha became enlightened under the bodhi tree and taught actual Buddhism like the pali canon says, or he was some primordially enlightened Buddha out of infinite amounts of buddhata and just played a game with the pali canon believers. But the problem is you can't even know who's right with your limited mortal vision, and thus you're just better off not choosing anything and just believing in god and following truth. Like me. I used to enjoy Buddhism you see. But once I realized the huge disagreements and the risk of choosing the wrong side, I just totally lost interest in it.

>>40606904
>christcuck needs doctrine to follow or he is lost
you were always a christcuck at heart

>>40606899
You seem completely unaware that Vedanta includes many schools that disagree, and some posit completely opposite cosmologies.
>disagree with that man and god are one?
Because this ignores that man and God are also not one. It is limited, and thus in error.

>>40606907
Rent free.

>>40606914
Ok, I don't know a lot about Vedanta except what I've read in the upanishads. What's your opinion of the Shiva Gita if you've read it?

>>40606907
Amazing though. Your utter lack of respect for others. You are never going to reach any nirvana that's for sure. You're doomed. You will never escape samsara ever.

>>40606904
>Who's right or wrong
Irrelevant drivel, those engaging in such a waste of time are simply their own enemies towards awakening. Practice and find the truth within, no one can enlighten you except yourself.

>>40606914
I have another question, does the yogi who's on the path produce karma? I consider myself on.. "some" sort of path, but I feel karma continuously, effects of what I am doing since after the beginning of my journey.

>>40606920
>except what I've read in the upanishads
Vedanta is not in the Upanishads, it is sourced in and built upon the Upanishads. Do you understand?
>Shiva Gita
This is part of Padma Purana, also not part of the Upanishads. It has been a while since I've read the Padma Purana, and I do not focus on Advaita Vedanta treatises.
Are you actually reading the sanskrit and translations, or do you know who is telling you what it means?

>>40606927
I long to know which religion is true if any. So.

>>40606922
Low vibration clasping and worshipping does not belong here. You're a peasant waiting for your daddy to tell you what to do.

>>40606933
I read audiobook versions on YouTube and occasionally text online. I don't know who translates, but I don't care too much. So, but I mean I'm not really inspired to become a part of Hinduism anyhow. I just feel like the religion itself gets almost everything right but it just lacks that last tenth of a percent. A gut feeling I have. I prefer being spiritual and unconcerned with holy books, teachings of others, or anything else besides what is absolute and truthful.

>>40606936
This lack of compassion. Amazing. So, do you think the Buddha would act the way you do?

>>40606942
>I don't know who translates, but I don't care too much.
So the person could very well be teaching you the exact opposite of what the passages mean, like when the British tried to explain what they read in the Upanishads as savage demon worshiping.
>I prefer being spiritual
What, very very specifically, do you mean by this?
>anything else besides what is absolute
You just talked about how everything is God, and yet you think there are things that are NOT what is Absolute?
It cant be The Absolute if it doesnt include holy books, teachings of others, and everything else.

>>40606954
C'mon now there is a clear difference in the modern English translations and colonial era first contact transmission. I'm spiritual in that I care about spirit, and anything that directly relates to it. Religion is ritual, and dogma, and I do not believe in dogma except whatever I have personally witnessed. No, not everything is god. I said 'man and god are one'. The physical world is not one with god. I am currently thinking what it might be. An illusion, a manifestation of the divine, insentient meaningless darkness. There are many views on this idea alone and I need time thinking of a correct answer.

>>40606934
They're all basically about conquering the ego, the enemy within, the animal nature and the self-realization that your immortal nature is divine (spirit/soul) and is one with the divine/god. They do it in different ways, like submitting your ego to Jesus and follow his way. Buddhism just do it in a more unorthodox way with different views on what's what.

>>40606969
>there is a clear difference in the modern English translations and colonial era first contact transmission
ARE there? How would you know? You dont even know who is speaking to you.
>I'm spiritual in that I care about spirit, and anything that directly relates to it.
I ask again. Be very very specific. What does this mean?
>No, not everything is god.
>>40606681
>god is all there is
You contradict yourself.
>The physical world is not one with god.
Oh? Then where does it come from? What is this eternally separate substance and realm?
>a manifestation of the divine
And you think God is completely separate from the manifestations of God?
I guarantee the Shiva Gita does not agree with this.

>>40606974
But what is true, thera, or Mahayana?

>>40606952
I don't give a fuck I don't answer to anyone.

>>40606993
As I said I was not the ignoramus you replied to I never said Buddhist cultist or retard. Neither did I say the idiotic phrase god is all there is. This would be immense darkness and untruth. I know because I am not a retard. It's obvious to everyone. I was as specific as I could be. Spirit, the unseen breath of everything. God is different from creation that he is not impermanent. As the nirvana upanishad for example says, "the physical world is impermanent." And god isn't of course. So, that's a big difference. I'm currently of the dualist opinion, that matter is negative, it's darkness, and spirit and soul are light and good. This is my personal opinion right now. God created the physical, but he isn't the physical. Because as said above it's impermanent and also darkness.

>>40606974
They aren't even close to the same. Christianity is on a lower level it encourages ignorance and dogma. Buddhism is about enlightenment and encourages individualistic thinking. It's like saying the cow and the butcher are the same thing.

>>40607002
Ok so you're not a Buddhist. You're an atheist. Good, I didn't expect this but whatever, this vindicates true Buddhism.

>>40607017
Boo hoo da evil chwistians
(This is you)

>>40606994
The truth is in the pudding.

>>40607028
Dumb image. I'm afraid you don't know the answer either.

>>40607017
Do not say that I'll depart tomorrow
because even today I still arrive.

Look deeply: I arrive in every second
to be a bud on a spring branch,
to be a tiny bird, with wings still fragile,
learning to sing in my new nest,
to be a caterpillar in the heart of a flower,
to be a jewel hiding itself in a stone.

I still arrive, in order to laugh and to cry,
in order to fear and to hope.
The rhythm of my heart is the birth and
death of all that are alive.

I am the mayfly metamorphosing on the surface of the river,
and I am the bird which, when spring comes, arrives in time
to eat the mayfly.

I am the frog swimming happily in the clear pond,
and I am also the grass-snake who, approaching in silence,
feeds itself on the frog.

I am the child in Uganda, all skin and bones,
my legs as thin as bamboo sticks,
and I am the arms merchant, selling deadly weapons to Uganda.

I am the twelve-year-old girl, refugee on a small boat,
who throws herself into the ocean after being raped by a sea pirate,
and I am the pirate, my heart not yet capable of seeing and loving.

I am a member of the politburo, with plenty of power in my hands,
and I am the man who has to pay his "debt of blood" to, my people,
dying slowly in a forced labor camp.

My joy is like spring, so warm it makes flowers bloom in all walks of life.
My pain is like a river of tears, so full it fills the four oceans.

Please call me by my true names,
so I can hear all my cries and laughs at once,
so I can see that my joy and pain are one.

Please call me by my true names,
so I can wake up,
and so the door of my heart can be left open,
the door of compassion.

>>40607040
Uganda? What kind of bullshit is this.

>>40607031
I find it irrelevant. Just as meaningless as Christians arguing who's interpretation of the Bible is true. Just be a good Christian, it's not rocket science.

>>40606934
It depends what you are looking for. If you're looking for what happens when you die it's reincarnation.

>>40607016
>I was not the ignoramus you replied to
Fine. Where did you start your brand of ignorance?
>This would be immense darkness and untruth.
not really. It's true. As the Shiva Gita says - it being very much a nondualist treatise.
>Spirit, the unseen breath of everything.
Still a nonsense phrase. You have no good understanding of the term. It's a wishy washy sentiment to you.
>God is different from creation
There is no creation. Material realm is as eternal as God, as it is part of God.
>As the nirvana upanishad for example says, "the physical world is impermanent."
What does it say in sanskrit? this is the problem - you have a bad translation and a bad understanding coming from a bad faith explainer.
The MANIFESTATIONS in the physical realm are impermanent. Samsara itself is eternal.
>I'm currently of the dualist opinion
But Dvaita disagrees with you as well. The limited is eternally subservient and secondary to the Unlimited, but they are not wholly separate.
oṁ pūrṇam adaḥ pūrṇam idaṁ
pūrṇāt pūrṇam udacyate
pūrṇasya pūrṇam ādāya
pūrṇam evāvaśiṣyate
>Isa Upanishad: The Supreme is perfect and complete, and because He is completely perfect, all emanations from Him, such as this phenomenal world, are perfectly equipped as complete wholes. Whatever is produced of the Complete Whole is also complete in itself. Because He is the Complete Whole, even though so many complete units emanate from Him, He remains the complete balance.

>>40607066
But Christianity is a darkness-based religion. Buddhism emanates light. The true Buddhism if we study both sides will be apparent, but I need time and I don't like thinking. I honestly think it's just another religion even if it's better than Christianity it's still not gonna solve my life problems. Have a nice day.>>40607067
I'm looking for absolute truth.

>>40607078
I don't know how to adequately answer this so I'll keep it short. I do not.. believe in Hinduism. That's my 'brand of ignorance'. I think the last tenth of a percent of all that knowledge was missed by the rishis of ancient India and I think honestly I'm good. I rely on my own perception alone and that has manifested truthfully in my life thus far. I do not rely on the teaching of others. That is the deal with me, I hope you can accept that.

>>40607088
>I do not.. believe in Hinduism.
This is meaningless, as "Hinduism" has more philosophies and traditions than you are aware of.
>I rely on my own perception alone
But that's not true as you are depending on someone else reading texts and trusting them to not have bias or error.

I can accept that you are just like every other egoistic person that thinks they already know the truth and are simply looking around at what confirms it.
I will show up to remind you in every one of these personal blog threads.

>>40607102
You can do that, your presence isn't particularly toxic, so do as you please bro. No I'm not actually someone who thinks they know everything. I know something the other people do not sure. But not everything. That's why I read these texts, because these ancient sages knew things I do not. However there is something foundational for me that only I know, and that is the guiding light for me in all matters of life. I'm currently trying to find out how Hinduism or whatever you want to call it (you know well what I'm talking about, don't play around) fits into that mindset. I am thinking that what I follow is more like the essence on which Hinduism was later created. Or something like that. So no, I'm not an egoist who thinks he knows everything, however the stuff that I do know is far more important and I'm not gonna act as if it were nothing. I'm still not enlightened after many years of on and off practice, and I do not know what the discovery that will mark the end of my spiritual journey, if it even exists, will be. But I don't expect a fundamental change in my perception to be frank.

>>40607079
The Christ's teachings can turn the worst of sinners into saints, just as the Buddha's can. It can also be abused to hurt and exploit vulnerable people. There's no shortage of criticism one can lay against the different churches through history.

Be a good person, don't cheat, steal, hurt others. Treat others like you want to be treated. Have compassion even to, or rather especially to sinners, they hurt others just as they hurt themselves.

>>40607196
I know that Christ and his teachings can produce a person with friendliness, but it's utterly inhumane to believe that all other religions land in hell forever and the hell I mean catholicism says for example it's so hot and intense. I can't deal with that.

>>40606231 (OP)
>I think god is real.
Yeah, certainly. The question is who or what he is.
>I'm also a nihilist though.
In a practical way that would mean you don't believe in good and evil. That's not smart because good and evil deffinately exist.
>Just because god exists doesn't mean there is a purpose to life.
Yeah ok, the cosmos is there. Why it is there we don't know. What is our purpose in it? Well, we can't say for sure too.
>the best thing you can do is reach enlightenment
Getting in contact with the divine light is for sure a good idea, as it will free you from suffering.
>but it's almost impossible
>you're not gonna make it.
That's very pessimistic. You can reach heaven when you're a spiritual person. It's not an easy way but it's possible.
>When I meditate every day, I feel immense longing for enlightenment. I just need to lose my ego.
Maybe don't be so forceful to yourself. Relax a bit with the path. Being spiritual doesn't have to be stressed and worried about your ego all the time. To live a spiritual life basically means to live with faith and virtue. It will be a challenge but it's possible.
>There's just one path that leads anywhere. The path of god.
I, as an angel, call it the path of the light. And I call heaven the realm of light. You can call it the path of God, but it's good to realize that it doesn't mean a speciffic God. It can be named Christ, Allah, Vishnu, or whatever you want to call it. The divine doesn't care about the names humans use. When it's a genuine spiritual path it will work.
>Peace, have a good day.
Thanks, you too.

>>40606231 (OP)
Which god of is real?