I've been working with psychedelics (LSD, psilocybin, and DMT a couple times), not just for the trip itself, but as tools to explore altered states that might have real magical or psychic applications.

I've had spontaneous telepathic-like experiences during sessions with controlled set and setting. I've also read accounts of people using Enochian magic under the influence and reaching states of satori or something akin to yogic samadhi. It makes me wonder if these compounds can actually unlock latent perception rather than just cause hallucinations.

I even found a few obscure studies suggesting improvements in remote viewing accuracy while on mushrooms.

Anyone here explored this crossover? Not just "tripping", but using actual magical systems—sigils, invocations, grimoires, thelemic ritual, etc.—while on psychedelics? Have you combined this with yoga, breathwork, or sensory deprivation?

Not looking for generic trip reports—I want to hear from people who’ve used entheogens as part of real magical or psychic work. Whether you're into chaos magick, Enochian stuff, or just a monk with a good memory for patterns, drop your insights.

Let’s talk about real psychic experiments, not just colorful visuals.

>>40627036 (OP)
>I take perception expanding drugs
<And think it connects me to the exterior
Lol. Psychedelica are esoteric,not exoteric

>>40627036 (OP)
lsd let me realmwalk as if i was walking down the road

>>40627036 (OP)
anon i am a noobie at this.
what would you recommend for my first time trying psychodelics for spiritual growth or understanding?
And what shouldn't I try to do on my first time?

>>40627192
Get married first

>>40627036 (OP)
no. anybody capable of reaching transcendental states has been very adamant that drugs are completely counterproductive and destructive. drug addicts have never tripped back from the inside of their own skulls with a single shred of insight or real knowledge to share with humanity. combining drugs with occultism or sensory deprivation just leads to ego bloat and eventual insanity if taken too far

>>40627036 (OP)
I did a lot of meditation and yoga on mushrooms and lsd, to create what was basically a telepathically active molecule. Its something akin to a molecule of light that exists within the aura outside the body, and it links up to internal brain chemistry for transference of information between internal and external existence. It worked surprisingly well, but not I'm 'married' to the telepathic spirit form of life that exists as this molecule.

>>40627036 (OP)
>but as tools
That is what they are for. They open the gate to liminal states
>rather than just cause hallucinations
Hallucinations don't exist. Your perception is just opening to something you normally can't see. When multiple people take psychedelics, they all see the same thing. Harmala was originally going to be called, "telepethine" because of the frequent occurrence of shared group visions. This CANNOT be a hallucination in the mind of one person. If everyone sees it, there is something there that we just can't see normally.

My only advice to you is to not go wandering in the woods alone. You have to know exactly what you are doing whenever you enter these states or you risk opening the door to something that you don't want to interact with and you're in such a state where it would cause real damage. Don't play around with it unless you already know exactly what you are doing already. The ancients NEVER used psychedelics lightly. They were used with great reverence and care. Some hippy taking LSD and deciding to get weird might fracture his mind in two without even attempting to do so. Many people have encountered demons on psychedelics. You need to protect yourself

You also need to work on being absolutely certain about whether or not your magick is doing anything at all or whether you've been given something that is designed to fuck you over. If you can't look at a ritual and immediately know what it does, how, and why, you shouldn't be messing with it. Chances are almost dead certain that most magick does absolutely nothing, giving you a false sense of security, or that it was given to you with malicious intent. You can create your own once you understand the principles, but good luck getting to that point of understanding

>>40627281
Ascendance without assistance is the safe route. These tools can help, but also be far too much if you're not prepared. They're not necessary, but they do blow the doors of perception wide open for a short time. But that's like learning to swim by jumping out of an airplane into the middle of the ocean.

Catch 22. If you actually devoted tons of time to becoming more coherent, you'll find you don't need them to interact with the unseen (to most people). And the ones that stand to benefit the most from them in terms of opening their awareness, will probably get fucked over in their usage if they don't know how to use them. And if they already knew how to operate in the spirit realm, then they wouldn't need the drugs in the first place. This is what shamans were for. But then again, how do you know if your shaman is full of shit and is draining your energy or if he is actually trying to help you? You can't unless you already know how it all works, which would mean you don't require a shaman to begin with. It's all a trap

>>40627036 (OP)
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>>40627192
take 2 grams of psilocybin mushies
really psychedelics arent dangerous but you should start small in my opinion
i love DMT, Shrooms, LSD, MDMA and ive never had a bad trip that didnt teach me priceless lessons about myself

>>40627036 (OP)
DMT world is just Hypnagogic state (a state between the lucid dream and wake state) with inputs overload from the five senses. You shouldn't overstimulate sensed but silence them.

>>40627036 (OP)

Have you discovered that most people are demons yet? If not you haven't learned anything.

>>40629961
Most people are not demons they’re just possessed

yeah, i dunno
i can like actively go into a spirit state and see things in the ephemeral tides
it feels odd and i lose consciousness in my body
i can interact with things and i have hands
wow, let me reach out to that star
oops. it slipped away

>>40627135
based mystic

>>40630851
This anon fux in the astral

>>40632815
my mind opened too much a little. its not comfortable. i feel like im always slipping away into the hole at the bottom of my head.

>>40627281
Ya and all those monks have so much profound knowledge they kicked out the chinese with their minds

I dont discount anything experienced in any state. Lots of societies had people that would take drugs for the whole group bc the group didnt believe in it for the most part but everynow and then it worked.

Terrence mckenna has some amazing talks. Was a super smart guy.
But just some avg highschool dropout taking acid? No way

Swimming or showering during a trip helps me a lot to contact the spirit room. It also keeps the demons away a little bit.

>>40634222
like baptism

>>40627281
pussy