Very recently.
When I realized there is actually no such thing as objectivity.
Not that it's unreachable.
No, it literally doesn't exist.

>>40630158 (OP)
When I was on LSD and DMT and I saw the framework of existence and it looks like geometry based carpentry around me

>>40630206
prove it (you wont)

>>40630158 (OP)
>It Was All An Illusion
You still have to be a wage slave or risk homelessness. Nothing really changes so calling it an illusion is meaningless.

>>40630235
Here we go, brace yourself.
So, right now you're reading my post.
it's part of reality, what you might call objective fact that it's visible.
But for you to observe this post at all, it's not as simple as you seeing it.
You have to internalize and understand it through your own personal lens.
In a real sense, you're sculpting it in your mind.
You may not be reading it as I intend.
You may be reading it in a woman's voice.
Etc etc.
So, if the only way to experience anything is internally, how can anything be unaffected by belief, which is the requirement of an objective reality.
There simply is no such thing.
Reality must be observed and internalized and your beliefs will determine everything about it, after all, within your own mind, you're the controller.
Solipsism is true, but it's true for every single mind.

>>40630252
This isn't true, just do what I did.
Move in with your parents and tell them you have no interest in looking for work.

>>40630261
My retarded ass cousin did this with her boyfriend after getting pregnant and they leeched my aunt and uncle to death and now they're on welfare and miserable.
Don't be a burden on others.

>>40630287
My parents can afford me and after they pass I get the house and I should be retired.
I just don't want to participate anymore or deal with money, so I don't.

>>40630256
Well, until there are things we can't agree on, there will always be objective reality. You can tell me the sky is green, but I don't believe it is and I don't even believe that you believe it is.
We all see a blue sky unless you're colorblind or blind. It's not all within our minds.
I see what you're getting at, but we're still in the same reality. You can pretend it's different for each person, but it's really not. No matter what 'voice' I read your post in, the words and characters are the same.

When I tried doing nothing to see how it would react. It hates it when you don't give it a storyline to watch.

>>40630307
There's no way to know that for sure.
We can only ever experience things from our POV.
It's entirely possible for instance we're a Boltzmann brain in a jar.
That's not to say you should delude yourself, that hurts you and your experience of reality.
But reality is by and large self defined and there's a LOT of wiggle room without contradicting reality in even the smallest way.

>>40630307
Na the other nigga is right. Someone can have the most bullshit reality possible where they live in an anime world and they went to sleep and during the night they woke up in this world and now they are talking to you as if it's normal and you would never know. There are more conspiracies here than you could ever know.

>>40630321
the concept 1+1 = 2 is different for you?

>>40630293
bro this is a nigger way of thinking. i get not wanting to work but there are lots of ways to generate money. guessing u are just a loser that copes he dont wamma partake. hope mom and dad give the money to an african charity.

>>40630252
thats only if you live in a third world shithole, or the retarded burger shithole

>>40630358
It can be, you're presuming I operate using base 10 math like 99% of people for one thing.

>>40630359
I don't care how you feel about it.
It's my life and I don't want to wagey so I don't.
I'm at zero risk of homelessness.
Meaning my statement that it can be done is true.

>>40630370
if everyone thought like you wed all be in caves playing with sticks and fire

>>40630358
If you took away all the other observers that know what that statement means it would not mean anything and it would look like jibberish to you. It's meaning is based on collective meaning.

>>40630388
I'm under no obligation to conform to social norms.

>>40630392
it doesnt exist if you dont understand it?

>>40630404
It doesn't exist if there is nobody to enforce it's existence.

Yep.
Let's take something that doesn't exist.
An officially liscensed Nintendo game about butt rape.
None of us ever observed that so we just now all made a concept in our minds about it, meaning it now exists as an idea.
But before that it didn't exist.
Now if we found such a game, we'd have to reconcile that with our previous ideas.
But yeah, if you don't know 1+1=2, and no one else does, no one believes that exists.
And if no one told you and you didn't know, it doesn't exist.

>>40630429
that game as an idea always existed you just were the one that arrived to it

>>40630429
You're full of shit. Concepts exist whether we are aware of them or not. A Caveman knows if he is holding one rock or two, he doesn't need names and numbers. Also Luigi's Mansion is clearly about butt rape, pic related

>>40630460
If no one observed it then how can we know it existed?

>>40630471
The caveman is a great example.
Let's say grug does pick up one rock in each hand.
The moment he looks and thinks "Rock...other rock....??? word for extra rock" 1+1=2 is first observed and begins to exist for sure.

>>40630511
it existed before you discovered it otherwise there would have been nothing to discover but the fact that you came upon it has no influence on its existence

>>40630567
That raises the question, do we discover or do we create.
What if invented a language that only I knew.
Then, 20 years later other people learned it.
I created it, it didn't exist before me observing it by making it in my mind and on paper.

>>40630580
>that raises the question
No it doesn't. It's obviously both you retard

>>40630232
This is very interesting

>>40630252
Prisoners dont

Women dont

>>40630621
lmao you have to be over 18 years old to post here

>>40630608
Ad hom is just saying nothing but without the common sense to do so.
I could try to correct you, which is a bother, or I could get smug satisfaction from being better than you.
Guess which one I always choose?

>>40630395
You already do.
You just don't realize it

>>40630580
Nothing is created or destroyed
It all only transforms

>>40630629
I'm not saying I don't.
However, I'm under no obligation to do so in all ways.
The norms I happen to conform with are all up to me.
No amount of whining about it or insulting me is going to make me switch my stance up on someone else's account.

>>40630628
I repeat: It's obviously both you retard. Your fedora tipping doesn't change that, reddit boy

>>40630626
Bitch please I have written consent to be here by my uncle Moot

>>40630633
Then why does the word "created" exist?
Check mate atheists.

>>40630638
Arguments made without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.
Not an argument so what you said was "..."

>>40630616
for what its worth when i took DMT 13 years ago i entered a white void
inside was a massive grey spring slowly expanding and contracting
i understood it to be the 'engine' of existence producing cyclic energy

>>40630640
does he also do butt stuff with you or how did you get this retarded?

>>40630643
Created is a human/earth construct

>>40630651
How did you guess that?
HOLY SHIT

>>40630653
Tell that to God.

>>40630645
Fascinating just so engrossing and captivating!

>>40630643
you still have to be over 18 to post here. Bro wants evidence for "Humans discover and create" LMAO what even are you, an alien? Every human finds evidence for that literally in the first few days of his life. You're full of shit and just want to argue for the sake of argung but we're not your parents, little boy. Fuck off to reddit

>>40630658
Which one?
There's literally thousands+

Pick one

>>40630663
I am an alien actually.

>>40630666
Ironic get, no?
Obviously the one that made the earth, God.
It's capitalized for a reason.

>>40630661
it doesnt cost anything to be kind

>>40630675
you are a dumb fucking mentally ill liar and there is nothing good that will ever spring from your cursed mouth

>>40630675
>I am an alien
Then shut the fuck up about humans, whats wrong with you? Do I go to Alien 4chan and lecture the ayys about what its like to be an alien? Fuck outta here, space nigger

>>40630685
kek

>>40630678
Ad hom is the same as calling me daddy and glazing me to me.
It's not an argument.

>>40630685
A heavenly alien, I was born a human bean and reborn a spiritual bean.

>>40630690
this isn't a debate, this is reality. reality is you're a lying fucking cunt with no grace or integrity. you're satan reaching through some retard ape's nerves to waste our time with stupid bullshit

>>40630717
Reality is governed by LOGOS.
Everything is a debate, truth or bust, buster.

>>40630158 (OP)
I don't think it really matters if it's a simulation or not since we experience it and the same rules apply anyway. It could be, or it could not, but ultimately, so what?

>>40630676
Yes it does. I got robbed one time after giving a homeless man 2 bucks out of my wallet. He saw the hundreds I had and pulled out a knife n robbed me. So yes it does hurt to be kind

>>40630358
>the concept 1+1 = 2 is different for you?
No but the way his brain internalizes it is special and unique. These boomers are fucking doomed.

>>40630256

Indeed, you are the master that makes the grass green.