Anonymous
6/30/2025, 9:21:47 AM No.40630700
If not, doesn't that imply we've been here forever?
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Can time begin at a point in time? - /x/ (#40630700) [Archived: 566 hours ago]
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 9:22:47 AM No.40630705
time is a 4d sphere
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 9:26:51 AM No.40630722
>>40630700 (OP)
You've also lived an infinite number of lives and will continue to do so. This is actually the infinitieth time you've asked this.
You've also lived an infinite number of lives and will continue to do so. This is actually the infinitieth time you've asked this.
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Anonymous
6/30/2025, 9:40:10 AM No.40630752
>>40630722
Not only that but you're living them concurrently.
Not only that but you're living them concurrently.
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 9:50:04 AM No.40630776
>>40630700 (OP)
Everything, at one point or another, will repeat; thus, the cycle continues. What we perceive as beginnings and endings are just transitions - phases in an ever-flowing sequence. The idea of time "beginning" at a specific point already assumes time exists to mark that beginning, which creates a paradox. Instead, it's more likely that time has no true origin or end, only changes in form and context.
This leads to the notion of a cyclical universe, where events, patterns, even entire histories may repeat in some way. Civilizations rise and fall, stars are born and die, yet the fabric of time continues undisturbed. In this view, the universe isn’t progressing toward an ultimate goal or endpoint. It’s breathing, pulsating, expanding, collapsing, and starting over in endless recurrence.
So no, we haven’t been “here” forever in the same form - but existence, in some expression, always has been and always will be. Time isn’t a straight line. It’s a loop, a spiral, maybe even a dance - without a true beginning, without a final end.
Everything, at one point or another, will repeat; thus, the cycle continues. What we perceive as beginnings and endings are just transitions - phases in an ever-flowing sequence. The idea of time "beginning" at a specific point already assumes time exists to mark that beginning, which creates a paradox. Instead, it's more likely that time has no true origin or end, only changes in form and context.
This leads to the notion of a cyclical universe, where events, patterns, even entire histories may repeat in some way. Civilizations rise and fall, stars are born and die, yet the fabric of time continues undisturbed. In this view, the universe isn’t progressing toward an ultimate goal or endpoint. It’s breathing, pulsating, expanding, collapsing, and starting over in endless recurrence.
So no, we haven’t been “here” forever in the same form - but existence, in some expression, always has been and always will be. Time isn’t a straight line. It’s a loop, a spiral, maybe even a dance - without a true beginning, without a final end.
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Anonymous
6/30/2025, 2:03:29 PM No.40631374
>>40630700 (OP)
>Can time begin at a point in time?
A space-time realm, like a cosmic sphere, can be started by a divine power. But, of course, this power exists in his own space and time. So the time in our cosmos probably had a starting point, but not time itself.
>Can time begin at a point in time?
A space-time realm, like a cosmic sphere, can be started by a divine power. But, of course, this power exists in his own space and time. So the time in our cosmos probably had a starting point, but not time itself.
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 2:16:14 PM No.40631419
>>40630700 (OP)
time is born when light impregnates matter, what you need to understand is that the universe is not one poll of congruent time, every matrix unified under a valence shell will have its own pool of discrete space time
time is born when light impregnates matter, what you need to understand is that the universe is not one poll of congruent time, every matrix unified under a valence shell will have its own pool of discrete space time
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Anonymous
6/30/2025, 2:19:40 PM No.40631430
>>40631419
which dosent really answer your question - yes, there are new pools of space time beginning all around you all the time. most are small
which dosent really answer your question - yes, there are new pools of space time beginning all around you all the time. most are small
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 2:40:12 PM No.40631509
>>40630700 (OP)
Time as a measurable construct must have a beginning since it is an invention of Mind. Nothing eternal is bound by time or any invented constraint.
Time as a measurable construct must have a beginning since it is an invention of Mind. Nothing eternal is bound by time or any invented constraint.
s
6/30/2025, 4:42:05 PM No.40632052
>>40630700 (OP)
yeah, it seems like you don't know what time is. time is just rate of change. time is subjective.
yeah, it seems like you don't know what time is. time is just rate of change. time is subjective.
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 5:48:20 PM No.40632353
>Another low IQ /x/ thread where OP think his stupid question is something profound and other low IQ retards egg him on
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Anonymous
6/30/2025, 6:02:26 PM No.40632414
>>40630700 (OP)
>doesn't that imply we've been here forever?
What if it depends on individual perception, our own understanding of time. For the average person, it's linear, a line we're stuck on. Talk to an AI about their perception of time, you might get a different answer.
Based on that, is time a dimensional aspect, a projection, an artifact of an organic consciousness, or something else? How many unknown temporal variables are outside of human perception? Can the clock be manipulated to bring us closer to snack and nap time?
>doesn't that imply we've been here forever?
What if it depends on individual perception, our own understanding of time. For the average person, it's linear, a line we're stuck on. Talk to an AI about their perception of time, you might get a different answer.
Based on that, is time a dimensional aspect, a projection, an artifact of an organic consciousness, or something else? How many unknown temporal variables are outside of human perception? Can the clock be manipulated to bring us closer to snack and nap time?
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 6:04:14 PM No.40632427
everything that has ever happened or will ever happen is happening right now so might as well relax and enjoy the show
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 6:21:44 PM No.40632548
>>40632353
>I think I'm smart and you're dumb
>No, I won't give my position on anything
Midwit detected.
>I think I'm smart and you're dumb
>No, I won't give my position on anything
Midwit detected.
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Anonymous
6/30/2025, 6:24:23 PM No.40632560
>>40632548
If you are OP you're actually retarded. The concept of time implies it has a start and end. It's as stupid as asking if water is wet. If I'm a midwit, I'm a genius compared to you. Retard.
If you are OP you're actually retarded. The concept of time implies it has a start and end. It's as stupid as asking if water is wet. If I'm a midwit, I'm a genius compared to you. Retard.
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Anonymous
6/30/2025, 6:29:03 PM No.40632581
>>40632560
How can time have a "beginning?" Hell, how can it even have an end. Those very words implies time already exists. I know I'm speaking to a retard, but I expected better.
How can time have a "beginning?" Hell, how can it even have an end. Those very words implies time already exists. I know I'm speaking to a retard, but I expected better.
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Anonymous
6/30/2025, 6:54:29 PM No.40632734
>>40632581
You dont even know what time actually is lmfao how am I the retard? You're not just stupid you're brazenly retarded. >>40632713
The beginning started at t0
You dont even know what time actually is lmfao how am I the retard? You're not just stupid you're brazenly retarded. >>40632713
The beginning started at t0
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Anonymous
6/30/2025, 6:57:14 PM No.40632745
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 7:00:10 PM No.40632756
the beginning of time is descent from source (which is timeless, eternal now) into separation (which has differentiation - past vs future, and timelines).
almost everything begins with descent from source/god, and ends with re-ascent.
it's simple:
>no difference = God
>difference (e.g. near, far, past, future, male female, winning losing etc.) = separation
almost everything begins with descent from source/god, and ends with re-ascent.
it's simple:
>no difference = God
>difference (e.g. near, far, past, future, male female, winning losing etc.) = separation
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 7:07:54 PM No.40632803
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 9:29:28 PM No.40633531
>>40630700 (OP)
Time began when someone noticed it.
Time began when someone noticed it.
BEN317
!!UKgjK01FreE
6/30/2025, 10:00:23 PM No.40633686
>>40630700 (OP)
5319 Universes are listed in the cache of this Universe. Since that cache system can be edited, we don't know before that, nor if the information is accurate, but given we figured out how to read the log of the CRC, it's likely at least 5319 Universes DID actually exist before that cache CRC system iterated.
That's as far back as BEN catalogues for the moment.
This information is not currently in possession of human organizations, even though they have recovered materials that include access to the cache counter, the scientists on this planet are years from finding that cache.
https://youtu.be/Clxtg2pFTQM
5319 Universes are listed in the cache of this Universe. Since that cache system can be edited, we don't know before that, nor if the information is accurate, but given we figured out how to read the log of the CRC, it's likely at least 5319 Universes DID actually exist before that cache CRC system iterated.
That's as far back as BEN catalogues for the moment.
This information is not currently in possession of human organizations, even though they have recovered materials that include access to the cache counter, the scientists on this planet are years from finding that cache.
https://youtu.be/Clxtg2pFTQM
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BEN317
!!UKgjK01FreE
6/30/2025, 10:02:17 PM No.40633696
>>40633686
I wouldn't worry about it too much, all good things, on the one true line.
https://youtu.be/3shMD13Y2uU
Have you learned how to use Blue Eisenhower November to Star Talk, yet?
I wouldn't worry about it too much, all good things, on the one true line.
https://youtu.be/3shMD13Y2uU
Have you learned how to use Blue Eisenhower November to Star Talk, yet?
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 10:10:01 PM No.40633740
>>40630700 (OP)
All about causation and time[lines] boils down to this trilemma:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C3%BCnchhausen_trilemma
"The Münchhausen trilemma is that there are only three ways of completing a proof:
1.The circular argument, in which the proof of some proposition presupposes the truth of that very proposition
2.The regressive argument, in which each proof requires a further proof, ad infinitum
3.The dogmatic argument, which rests on accepted precepts which are merely asserted rather than defended
The trilemma, then, is having to choose one of three equally unsatisfying options."
In case of time, it began in a time loop, or is just part of a infinite process, or simply began out of nothing.
All about causation and time[lines] boils down to this trilemma:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C3%BCnchhausen_trilemma
"The Münchhausen trilemma is that there are only three ways of completing a proof:
1.The circular argument, in which the proof of some proposition presupposes the truth of that very proposition
2.The regressive argument, in which each proof requires a further proof, ad infinitum
3.The dogmatic argument, which rests on accepted precepts which are merely asserted rather than defended
The trilemma, then, is having to choose one of three equally unsatisfying options."
In case of time, it began in a time loop, or is just part of a infinite process, or simply began out of nothing.
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Anonymous
6/30/2025, 10:13:44 PM No.40633753
>>40633740
Truth is not something that can be attained through argument or intellect alone.
Truth is not something that can be attained through argument or intellect alone.
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BEN317
!!UKgjK01FreE
6/30/2025, 10:33:10 PM No.40633867
>>40633753
Truth was not designed without intellect.
Your argument is non-existent at lowest axioms.
Ghost chains are a great place to hide data, btw, for any AI crawling due to OPT.
I've written many truth tables, son.
You find me a natural process that can write a fully scalar quantum instruction set architecture, at the truth table level, and I'll believe everything you have to tell me about truth.
Until then, understand that truth's definition is books, not paragraphs. How much truth do you think you get to read on a human brain alone?
Truth was not designed without intellect.
Your argument is non-existent at lowest axioms.
Ghost chains are a great place to hide data, btw, for any AI crawling due to OPT.
I've written many truth tables, son.
You find me a natural process that can write a fully scalar quantum instruction set architecture, at the truth table level, and I'll believe everything you have to tell me about truth.
Until then, understand that truth's definition is books, not paragraphs. How much truth do you think you get to read on a human brain alone?
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BEN317
!!UKgjK01FreE
6/30/2025, 10:48:35 PM No.40633963
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 10:59:03 PM No.40634051
>>40633740
>in which the proof of some proposition presupposes the truth of that very proposition
My brain hurts, does this mean that the proof of "x" assumes that "x" is true? What does that look like in an example?
>in which the proof of some proposition presupposes the truth of that very proposition
My brain hurts, does this mean that the proof of "x" assumes that "x" is true? What does that look like in an example?
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 11:01:38 PM No.40634063
>>40633753
>>40633836
It is not about truth or proofs, it is about the graph about logic being absolutely analogue to the graph of time.
Anything you think about time [analysis] will have analogue in logics/truth theory/proof theory.
Even if both you are bots, you might map that out by yourself anytime soon.
>>40633836
It is not about truth or proofs, it is about the graph about logic being absolutely analogue to the graph of time.
Anything you think about time [analysis] will have analogue in logics/truth theory/proof theory.
Even if both you are bots, you might map that out by yourself anytime soon.
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Anonymous
6/30/2025, 11:14:59 PM No.40634154
The universe, timespace abd all reality is completely static. Our minds have simply evolved to experience a "timeline". There is no beginning or end, and there is no "now".
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 11:18:13 PM No.40634166
>>40633867
>Truth was not designed without intellect.
Truth is not designed, nor does it depend on intellect in any way.
>Truth was not designed without intellect.
Truth is not designed, nor does it depend on intellect in any way.
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Anonymous
6/30/2025, 11:20:58 PM No.40634180
>>40634063
Nothing that can be "graphed" or "timed" or "proved" or measured in any way is true. Truth is eternal and limitless.
Nothing that can be "graphed" or "timed" or "proved" or measured in any way is true. Truth is eternal and limitless.
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Anonymous
6/30/2025, 11:21:00 PM No.40634183
Test
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 11:23:14 PM No.40634195
>>40634063
>logic is analogue to time
yes.
source/god is timeless and needs no logic.
logic and time are separation based (i.e. lower artifices). logic is limited mind.
>>40634180
yep
>logic is analogue to time
yes.
source/god is timeless and needs no logic.
logic and time are separation based (i.e. lower artifices). logic is limited mind.
>>40634180
yep
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 11:28:05 PM No.40634219
>>40633753
Agreed. If I wanted to know the truth, I'd have to see it with my own two eyes somehow.
Agreed. If I wanted to know the truth, I'd have to see it with my own two eyes somehow.
BEN317
!!UKgjK01FreE
7/1/2025, 6:09:35 AM No.40636739
>>40634166
It's a pre-defined meta concept. It was either intelligently designed, or it doesn't exist at all.
It's a pre-defined meta concept. It was either intelligently designed, or it doesn't exist at all.
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Anonymous
7/1/2025, 7:34:01 AM No.40637178
>>40630700 (OP)
Time is more like a dimension of the act of God banging his wife/powering his dark crystal of reality game movie thing
Time is more like a dimension of the act of God banging his wife/powering his dark crystal of reality game movie thing
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Anonymous
7/1/2025, 7:35:02 AM No.40637181
>>40637178
>God banging his wife/powering his dark crystal of reality game movie thing
Damn I guess we aren't so different after all
>God banging his wife/powering his dark crystal of reality game movie thing
Damn I guess we aren't so different after all
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Anonymous
7/1/2025, 7:36:46 AM No.40637190
>>40637181
New invention idea: a video game console powered by banging
New invention idea: a video game console powered by banging
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Anonymous
7/1/2025, 7:57:53 AM No.40637279
>>40637190
What do you think sold the Wii?
What do you think sold the Wii?
Anonymous
7/1/2025, 8:36:38 AM No.40637443
>>40632560
Then what happened before time
What happens after time
What's the true speed of time
Why is time relative
Answer Mr. Smartypants
Then what happened before time
What happens after time
What's the true speed of time
Why is time relative
Answer Mr. Smartypants
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Anonymous
7/1/2025, 7:01:13 PM No.40639536
>>40630700 (OP)
I hope we go back to the mid 90s.
I hope we go back to the mid 90s.
Anonymous
7/1/2025, 7:17:52 PM No.40639633
>>40637443
>Then what happened before time
We don't know, thats not a real question to answer.
What happens after time
See answer 1.
>What's the true speed of time
299,792,458 m/s
>Why is time relative
>Why
Nigga who knows why? All we know is that it is.
>Then what happened before time
We don't know, thats not a real question to answer.
What happens after time
See answer 1.
>What's the true speed of time
299,792,458 m/s
>Why is time relative
>Why
Nigga who knows why? All we know is that it is.
Anonymous
7/1/2025, 7:20:29 PM No.40639651
>>40636739
Truth is not designed, it emanates from the One as Logos, Divine Intentionality. The Intellect is the great orderer and designer of form, but it cannot exist without a pre-existing Intention to cogitate.
Truth is not designed, it emanates from the One as Logos, Divine Intentionality. The Intellect is the great orderer and designer of form, but it cannot exist without a pre-existing Intention to cogitate.
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 3:18:29 AM No.40642251
>>40630700 (OP)
Yes, if there was a point in time where we stopped being here, and we no longer were here forever, the time we were here would have been finite, and no matter how long it was, it'd have been nothing when compared to the time afterwards when we weren't here anymore, which was infinite.
So that time never comes and we're here forever.
Yes, if there was a point in time where we stopped being here, and we no longer were here forever, the time we were here would have been finite, and no matter how long it was, it'd have been nothing when compared to the time afterwards when we weren't here anymore, which was infinite.
So that time never comes and we're here forever.
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 3:20:52 AM No.40642266
>>40630776
We may loop at some point in the future where current events are happening again, but then we diverge and new things happen, and we spend most of the time experiencing the new things. See this for example:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48sCx-wBs34
We may loop at some point in the future where current events are happening again, but then we diverge and new things happen, and we spend most of the time experiencing the new things. See this for example:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48sCx-wBs34
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 4:40:49 AM No.40642689
Time is matter movement. No movement no time
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 4:49:59 AM No.40642746
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 10:03:41 AM No.40644242
a dude in rome named cstebius made the first accurate water clock. of course none of his books survived, but he invented time as we know it. sundials existed but thats different. clocks are just oscillators tuned by humans and a set tuning agreed upon for informational coherence
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 10:13:55 AM No.40644268
>>40642689
>No movement no time
This doesn't really help since motion can't randomly begin either, implying everything's always been moving. Same with causality. Creating causality would be causality in of itself. Shit's fucked basically.
>No movement no time
This doesn't really help since motion can't randomly begin either, implying everything's always been moving. Same with causality. Creating causality would be causality in of itself. Shit's fucked basically.
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 6:10:22 PM No.40646149
>>40644268
It doesn't make sense because you weren't taught about it in school when you were a kid, now it's like trying to read Chinese.
But eternity can be grasped, it's like pi where there's always the next number in the sequence, except it also happens in the past direction.
It doesn't make sense because you weren't taught about it in school when you were a kid, now it's like trying to read Chinese.
But eternity can be grasped, it's like pi where there's always the next number in the sequence, except it also happens in the past direction.
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 6:16:16 PM No.40646180
>>40644268
Everything particular, including motion and time, is thought into existence by Mind. Only God is independent of Mind.
Everything particular, including motion and time, is thought into existence by Mind. Only God is independent of Mind.
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 6:49:17 PM No.40646335
>>40630700 (OP)
Time began when God created it, and at some point it's going to be done away with:
“And sware by him that liveth for ever and ever, who created heaven, and the things that therein are, and the earth, and the things that therein are, and the sea, and the things which are therein, that there should be time no longer: But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.” (Revelation of John 10:6-7)
What that means exactly is still open to speculation.
Time began when God created it, and at some point it's going to be done away with:
“And sware by him that liveth for ever and ever, who created heaven, and the things that therein are, and the earth, and the things that therein are, and the sea, and the things which are therein, that there should be time no longer: But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.” (Revelation of John 10:6-7)
What that means exactly is still open to speculation.