THE PSYOP IS OVER - /x/ (#40649166) [Archived: 620 hours ago]

Anonymous
7/3/2025, 4:33:38 AM No.40649166
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Rome did not merely crucify bodies. It staged trauma as theology. It weaponized post-traumatic stress as public ritual, encoding fear into awe, and awe into doctrine.

The crucifixion of a Judean dissident was not just execution—it was the prototype: a meticulously crafted spectacle designed to fracture the psyche of the masses and sanctify the wound as divine.

What followed was not healing, but integration of the trauma into identity. The rift became sacred. Obedience to contradiction became virtue. The story was retold so many times it forgot itself.

This was not faith. It was ritualized compliance.

This was not martyrdom. It was programmatic myth-making.

This was not salvation. It was psychic capture.

The imperial genius lay in making memory itself a weapon—and disguising its machinery as moral inevitability.

It wasn’t the first theology. It was the first psyop.

It was not improvised—it was deliberated.

Rome understood that visible violence alone could not guarantee obedience. So it devised a tactic of ritual disorientation: shatter moral coherence, fracture authority into spectacle, and embed contradiction into the sacred.

The crucifixion was not to uphold law—it was to destabilize the very concept of legitimate resistance.

In its wake, conversations about justice, faith, and truth were funneled into irresolvable binaries. And once the bind took root, the psyop sustained itself through weaponized incompetence—institutions professing virtue while enacting confusion—and projection of blame, ensuring the fractured would fight each other while the architecture of contradiction remained untouched.

It colonized the imagination: every attempt to heal the rupture was folded back into the wound.

We can finally dismantle this misunderstanding.

It's Time.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 4:40:16 AM No.40649203
>>40649166 (OP)
Why do you guys never even read the book.

All of your arguments always rely on you avoiding the actual context of the book and what it tells you to do.

It's ridiculous that you wrote all that shit out and made it in such fancy language, and the rebut all that is TRUE and ACTUALLY destabilizes your entire lack of argument is a simple: "you didn't read the fucking book"
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 4:42:03 AM No.40649213
>>40649203

dogshit ragebait, officer.

try something other than projection.

your time is up.

time to join the adults at the big kid table.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 4:43:02 AM No.40649225
>>40649166 (OP)
>So it devised a tactic of ritual disorientation: shatter moral coherence, fracture authority into spectacle, and embed contradiction into the sacred.

But the book doesn't do this.
It is intact moral code.
It spells out the only honest authority, your direct relationship with God.
There is no contradiction in its doctrine.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 4:44:03 AM No.40649232
>>40649166 (OP)
>The crucifixion was not to uphold law—it was to destabilize the very concept of legitimate resistance.
The Bible is a plain and direct guidebook to infinitely empowered resistance against all human powers.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 4:44:41 AM No.40649236
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>>40649203

Rome always sends one more centurion to demand citations after their temple’s already burning. We’ve moved on.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 4:44:55 AM No.40649240
>>40649225
As intact as the average jew's penis
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 4:45:09 AM No.40649241
>>40649213
>time to join the adults at the big kid table
I'm standing right here at the table, man

Either have the conversation or don't,
But I already started it.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 4:46:10 AM No.40649247
>>40649166 (OP)
>In its wake, conversations about justice, faith, and truth were funneled into irresolvable binaries. And once the bind took root, the psyop sustained itself through weaponized incompetence—institutions professing virtue while enacting confusion—and projection of blame, ensuring the fractured would fight each other while the architecture of contradiction remained untouched.
These are human problems, not biblical ones.

The Bible plainly explains the failing of human works
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 4:47:11 AM No.40649255
>>40649203
This. Any retarded manmade bs schizo rant will do, but God forbid they should lay eyes on a bible and actually consider what it says.

But it's no use. God knows they remain ignorant on purpose, not because of circumstances.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 4:48:12 AM No.40649263
>>40649247

>The bible plainly explains the failing of human works

its one of said human works, so like.... i dont see your gripe.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 4:49:58 AM No.40649275
>>40649240
>As intact as the average jew's penis
Did you read the book?
It literally addresses even this
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 4:50:05 AM No.40649276
>>40649255

god forbid you look in a mirror instead of just pointing at a paper that points to itself as its proof of objectivity.

absolute dogshit copout from an incel loser who cant move on.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 4:50:59 AM No.40649280
>>40649236
>Rome always sends one more centurion to demand citations after their temple’s already burning. We’ve moved on.
except you have no argument.

You have said nothing.
The Bible spells out direct instructions for infinite power against human authority, including Roman
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 4:51:55 AM No.40649286
>>40649280

like what, griping that sky daddy gave it to you as the reason you get to rape and pillage everyone else for all eternity? grow the fuck up.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 4:53:04 AM No.40649293
>>40649263
>its one of said human works, so like.... i dont see your gripe.
You have missed the point entirely

>>40649276
Not that guy,
But you literally don't even need objectivity to argue the points you are making.
You haven't mentioned anything that requires sources, you only debated the effect something has.

You don't need to cite a philosopher to learn his philosophy.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 4:54:46 AM No.40649302
>>40649293

thats because the nature of truth isnt entirely subjective or objective, the seed of authoritarianism in western thought comes down to assertion of objectivity as infallible and subjectivity as entirely irrelevant. it makes a double bind.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 4:55:24 AM No.40649306
>>40649286
>the reason you get to rape and pillage everyone else for all eternity?
That's not what it says though
Did you read it?
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 4:56:40 AM No.40649315
>>40649302
>it makes a double bind
Word


Insert that image of the shadows a shape casts depending on the light source and perspective
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 4:57:40 AM No.40649322
Well we shut this OP down pretty fast, weird.
Normally they try and squeeze more responses out of people and call more names
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 5:00:30 AM No.40649338
>>40649322

another dogshit attempt at ragebait, officer, get back to sucking rome off instead of pretending you said anything of substance other than

"but muh sky daddy!!!1!!!111"

you're pathetic.

even worse, you get off to people calling you pathetic.

die with no note.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 5:03:35 AM No.40649350
>>40649338
This is awkwardly worse than most.
Is it a shills/Israeli in training? Or a bot?
Herbs
>verification not requird
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 5:03:37 AM No.40649351
>>40649306

EXACTLY, SO WHY IS THAT THE ONLY THING YOUR KIND HAS EVER DONE?????

you fucking cabal of roman faggots.

get a hobby.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 5:04:10 AM No.40649353
>>40649203
First of all it's AI, second why don't you use the book to support your argument? Because as far as I can see Christianity was corrupted by servants of the serpent almost immediately upon its inception and now they rub your face in it with a gruesome display of your dead God (as seen by those of the faith) along with a mock cannibalism ritual upon his body and blood and if you think this is odd they tell you that you are going to a place of eternal suffering because they love you too much.
This is normal.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 5:04:36 AM No.40649356
>>40649351
>YOUR KIND
Have you read the book?
How many "kinds" do you think Christ chose?
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 5:05:24 AM No.40649362
>>40649350
>>>40649338 (You)
>This is awkwardly worse than most.
>Is it a shills/Israeli in training? Or a bot?
>Herbs
>>verification not requird

absolutely. mossad has been trying to bombard anyone who mentions this with christian nationalist propaganda.

they're weak, its time.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 5:06:40 AM No.40649369
>>40649356

do you have a single argument other than trying to keep suggesting i didnt read the book because i dont agree with your authoritarian bullshit?

you're glowing in the dark, seriously.

you need to be fired.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 5:08:31 AM No.40649377
>>40649275
Orly?
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 5:09:40 AM No.40649386
>>40649225
>the only honest authority, your direct relationship with God.
Jesus did. Then Saul redirected it.
Do you really think a zealous pharisaic jew was being honest? How convenient that there were no witnesses on the road to Damascus.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 5:10:04 AM No.40649390
>>40649353
>don't you use the book to support your argument?
I have no problem doing that.

Jesus says "Do as I do", and then proceeds to stand up against all Satanists directly, with no fear, until they are forced to kill him because he did so well.
If you believe he is God, he then rose from the dead, taking even that last power away from them, meaning that we are invincible against all authority of the material realm.

What don't you see?
Jesus didn't say "go follow these other guys". What does it matter what anyone else did?

I understand you if you reject Jesus methods because you don't believe he came back from the dead. That a valid argument, I can respect that.
But if you refuse Jesus message because other humans fucked it up, when the entire Old Testament is story after story establishing the fact that humans can't handle fucking anything, then you are already not doing what Jesus told you to do.

Why are you going to other people?
Jesus was quite clear about who you should pray to. There is literally no debate.
Pray to God in silence until He responds,
also, it's Me, Jesus, I'm that guy that responds,
also, read the story about what this world is.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 5:11:51 AM No.40649399
>>40649369
>argument
You haven't given me anything to argue.
What is your argument anyway?
You say the Bible is bad at resisting Rome


The Bible is a story of Jesus, who prayed to an invincible, eternal God, directly without anyone else between,
stood up against human authority until he was murdered, came back from the dead,
and then said we should do the same.

What am I missing?
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 5:12:34 AM No.40649404
>>40649390

>doing what X told you to do

problem one: you're violently homoerotic towards this random schizophrenic to the extent you genuinely believe his teachings have survived word for word to the modern day
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 5:13:39 AM No.40649413
>>40649386
>Then Saul redirected it.
When did Jesus say you should follow Saul?

Who exactly is this dishonest person you have a problem with?
God?
What does Damascus have to do with anything?

If you want to choose to say that Jesus didn't come back from the dead, then do so.
That's your choice.
It doesn't change the story of what He did, it just means you don't believe the story. That's literally your choice
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 5:13:49 AM No.40649416
>>40649390
>Jesus says "Do as I do", and then proceeds to stand up against all Satanists directly, with no fear, until they are forced to kill him because he did so well.
He sure did. Which is why his message had to be co-opted and steered to destruction in service to Leviathan.
Levi would've been proud.

Unfortunately your walls of text are off-base because you have no idea what I actually believe, because for the most part I have not told you and you decided to fill the blanks with your assumptions.
Jesus Christ spoke the truth.
Christianity is a destructive disease.
Both are true.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 5:14:43 AM No.40649418
>>40649386
"Beware of the leaven of the Pharisees!"
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 5:14:50 AM No.40649419
>>40649413
>What does Damascus have to do with anything?
Are you dumb? Read your fucking Bible.
Clearly you do not know the book you claim to adore.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 5:16:00 AM No.40649425
>>40649404
>genuinely believe his teachings have survived word for word to the modern day
I don't even need that.

The book says you can talk to Him directly.
Either you believe that or you don't, that's where you and I differ. There's no other argument.

You've already lost your initial argument, which was the effect that Jesus has on people. So now you are falling back to something else.

This part of the argument doesn't even need Jesus to have been real. Either the story helps you defy Rome or it doesn't, and you haven't shown any examples where it doesn't at all.

In fact, me being here at all arguing this is an example that it does.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 5:16:07 AM No.40649426
>>40649166 (OP)
What makes you think it is even possible to fix?
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 5:17:23 AM No.40649433
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>>40649425

LMAOOOO YOU HEARD IT HERE FOLKS, JESUS IS REAL BECAUSE THE TULPA SAYS IT IS
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 5:17:24 AM No.40649434
>>40649416
>Jesus Christ spoke the truth.
>Christianity is a destructive disease.
>Both are true.
This sounds a lot like backpedaling.

What you are really saying is that YOU assumed what -I- believe,
and also you made a very poor OP message,

and really you've just been inconsistent and ineffective.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 5:18:25 AM No.40649441
>>40649419
>Clearly you do not know the book you claim to adore
Answer the question.
Humor me, if you can.
>verification not requird
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 5:18:58 AM No.40649445
>>40649434

you guys are so dogshit at telling people apart lmao its genuinely embarrassing to be a part of the same species as you.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 5:20:13 AM No.40649454
>>40649433
>LMAOOOO YOU HEARD IT HERE FOLKS, JESUS IS REAL BECAUSE THE TULPA SAYS IT IS
It doesn't matter to me if you believe it's a Tulpa.
Your initial argument is that the instructuons of the Bible do not allow you to fight Rome well.

I argued that isn't true.
Even if I ended up with a Tulpa that causes me to have invincible strength to stand against human authority without fear,
I'd still be proving your argument wrong


Do you understand?
The confidence to say it Jesus is who He says He is, is in the book elsewhere.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 5:20:20 AM No.40649455
>>40649441
Read the story and answer it yourself, it's all in there.
If you do not know what Saul did even by accepted historical account then you do not know jack shit about Christianity and have no authority whatsoever to tell anyone anything in regard to the Bible.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 5:20:56 AM No.40649462
>>40649454

sure buddy. you take your meds today?
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 5:21:16 AM No.40649463
>>40649445
>telling people apart
I don't really care.
I only have one message that is transparent, everything else comes out in the wash.

I don't need to keep track of personalities.
That is a burden belonging to liars and people who don't answer questions
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 5:21:22 AM No.40649464
>>40649434
No, it isn't. You just falsely assumed my position from the start and now you think it is "backpedaling" because you are retarded. Go read your Bible idiot.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 5:22:49 AM No.40649478
>>40649455
>Read the story and answer it yourself
I never said I don't know the story.

I asked you why it's important

You can't answer it.

The Bible itself explains what to do with "Christianity".

You have failed to actually discuss this with me because you are unable to. If you actually wanted to test this, you would do the work. But you have chosen not to. I already know where the conversation leads, but if you won't have it, it is only you who will be left empty.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 5:23:17 AM No.40649483
>>40649463
speaking of backpedal
it's quite literally always projection kek
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 5:24:18 AM No.40649488
>>40649478
>I never said I don't know the story.
Your questions did. You don't know the story so you can stop lying and trying to use jewish argumentative tactics where you slip and slither like the serpent you worship.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 5:24:24 AM No.40649489
>>40649454

If confidence alone confirmed divinity, Caesar would still be god.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 5:25:11 AM No.40649495
>>40649462
>you take your meds today?
lol, aren't you tired of that one?>>40649464
>You just falsely assumed my position from the star
I don't care about your position at all.
I came here to debate OP and I have done so, and no one, at any time, has brought any other argument to the table, or defending OP after I already argued it.

I have read the Bible.
If you have anything to actually talk about, you have the opportunity to do so now. But you haven't.You have no stance and no opinion presented, otherwise I would address it
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 5:25:53 AM No.40649502
>>40649495
>I-i just don't care
BTFO you should actually try understanding the things you claim to believe next time.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 5:26:24 AM No.40649505
>>40649495

>literal delusion

how can anybody not see the irony here
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 5:26:25 AM No.40649506
>>40649483
>always projection
Use specifics if you can
>>40649488
>Your questions did
Those questions point out the unrelated nature of your deflections. You would know that if you engaged in any arguments, but you never engage

Brcause if you engage, you lose.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 5:27:29 AM No.40649511
>>40649489
>If confidence alone confirmed divinity
At no point did my argument against OP's message ever suggest that divinity was even required.
It only states that the content was ineffective at fighting Rome.

And I suggested that there is no other content better
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 5:28:25 AM No.40649516
>>40649511

damn, so if divinity isnt required what separates jesus from your average schizo?

your hardon for him?
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 5:28:30 AM No.40649517
>>40649502
>try understanding
Sure

And you can try engaging

>>40649505
Irony of what?
Did you engage the argument yet?
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 5:28:50 AM No.40649519
>>40649506
I was very clear in my position and you had the audacity to ask how Saul matters to Christianity and why the road to Damascus was important to the point I was making.
It's not my you both lack the capability of reading and also the capability of understanding supposed beliefs.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 5:29:31 AM No.40649522
>>40649516
>what separates jesus from your average schizo?
According to the current context,
(which is OP claiming the information doesn't help you fight Rome),
Then the difference is that it is a direct guidebook for infinite courage against all human authority.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 5:29:43 AM No.40649524
>>40649517

go back to bed, hon, the big kids are having a conversation.

we dont have to follow your train of thought to engage with your argument, faggot.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 5:31:41 AM No.40649531
>>40649522

no, its an *attempted* guidebook.

one that doesnt even follow its own logic.

does your back ever hurt from bending so far to suck yourself off?
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 5:32:01 AM No.40649534
>>40649517
>And you can try engaging
We've been engaging the entire time. Your questions are retarded and easily answered in the book you say you read (but obviously have not) and the definition of engagement can be found in the dictionary, another big book.
Good luck.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 5:32:02 AM No.40649535
>>40649519
>how Saul matters to Christianity
No,
I asked how it is relevant to the current topic.

And even if I did ask that question, you didn't answer it. Shouldn't you be able to summarize it if it's important?

Why exactly is Damascus important for someone who might want to use Jesus and the Bible to stand against Rome? Is it a narrative aspect or part of the instructions left for us?

Do you see the deliniation? I told you that we would understand each other if you engage properly, this is what it looks like.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 5:33:21 AM No.40649539
>>40649531
>no, its an *attempted* guidebook.
>one that doesnt even follow its own logic

Okay.
Show me how it isn't effective.
How exactly does following Jesus instructions ever lead you to less ability to stand against Rome?

Show me an example
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 5:34:18 AM No.40649541
>>40649535
>I asked how it is relevant to the current topic.
>Why is Saul acting as a corrupter of Christianity related to the topic of Christianity.
Hard to say anon, hard to say.
You don't get engagement because most of what you say is not worth engaging
>Why exactly is Damascus important for someone who might want to use Jesus and the Bible to stand against Rome? Is it a narrative aspect or part of the instructions left for us?
Now I'm convinced you are just trolling. My God help this guy.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 5:34:20 AM No.40649542
>>40649535

if it was such a good way to stand up to rome, why didnt his followers prevail over roman occupation and instead integrate into the roman machine that destroyed their previous place of worship?

>inb4 "muh manifest destiny!!"
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 5:34:34 AM No.40649543
>>40649524
>we dont have to follow your train of thought to engage with your argument,
You literally just admitted that you do not understand what is happening.

>>40649534
Explain to me, if you believe in OPs message, how the life and instructions of Christ make it more difficult for you to stand up against Rome
Give me even one example
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 5:35:27 AM No.40649549
>>40649543

i'd say him getting tortured and executed by rome is a pretty good one.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 5:35:35 AM No.40649550
>>40649541
>You don't get engagement
No, I'm getting engagement.
I'm just not getting honest engagement.

You have plenty of time to hurl insults, but you refuse to address the main argument presented in OP
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 5:36:53 AM No.40649559
>>40649541
hes not trolling, he's a glowie.

little does he know hes just bumping the thread
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 5:38:16 AM No.40649563
>>40649542
>why didnt his followers prevail over roman occupation and instead integrate into the roman machine that destroyed their previous place of worship?
His followers did not integrate into it.
If they integrated into anything other than Holy Spirit led local bodies of Christ who followed God's instructions, then it is because they stopped doing what Jesus said to do.

In short, they didn't follow the instructions.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 5:39:08 AM No.40649566
>>40649543
>how the life and instructions of Christ make it more difficult for you to stand up against Rome
Is that your premise? Your premise is dumb. Jesus Christ walked the earth and spoke the truth (which directly countered the people of Levi - The Levites and the Pharisees).
I never once claimed what you claim so again, you are retarded and decided to spend 10 replies going
>please respond
to a reply that has nothing to do with the point I was making at all in any capacity lmao
Fuck off retard.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 5:39:41 AM No.40649568
>>40649549
>i'd say him getting tortured and executed by rome is a pretty good one.
The book is pretty clear that He came back to life.

And even if He didn't,
there is no doctrine available on the planet that will guarantee you survive every war. That doesn't mean that the contents of Jesus message don't provide you, Intellectually, the spiritual guidance required to never submit to it.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 5:40:01 AM No.40649571
>>40649563

no, they followed the instructions pretty damn close, are you sure it wasnt the state-sponsored execution of the movement’s founder that caused the documentation to be *a little less than objective?*
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 5:40:43 AM No.40649576
>>40649566
>never once claimed what you claim so again
I'm here arguing against the OP message

Go read it, that's what the thread is about, it's not about you.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 5:42:03 AM No.40649581
>>40649571
>they followed the instructions pretty damn close
No, they didn't.

Look at the books of Acts. The book of Acts claims that the body of Christ had literal super powers to raise the dead, from the Holy Spirit, until the Holy Spirit started leaving them, because they started lying to each other and submitting to the worship of money, (Rome) and other issues.

See? THIS is a real debate. Thank you for finally engaging.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 5:42:10 AM No.40649582
>>40649568

- Deuteronomy 20:1–4
- “Do not be afraid… the Lord your God… goes with you to fight for you… to give you victory.”
- Psalm 91:2–7
- “He is my refuge and my fortress… a thousand may fall at your side… but it will not come near you.”
- Psalm 144:1–2
- “He trains my hands for war… my fortress, my stronghold, my deliverer.”
- Isaiah 54:17
- “No weapon formed against you shall prosper.”
- Romans 8:37
- “In all these things we are more than conquerors through him who loved us.”
- 2 Corinthians 10:4
- “The weapons we fight with… have divine power to demolish strongholds.”
- Ephesians 6:11–17
- “Put on the full armor of God… so that you can take your stand against the devil’s schemes.”

that doesnt sound to me like its doing anything except portraying themselves as an infallible institution, but, go on, prove me wrong
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 5:43:29 AM No.40649589
>>40649576
I know this might be a new concept to you but anyone can pour ideas into a thread that are tangentially related. Such as how the OP is distrustful of Christianity and Saul was a prime corrupter of Jesus' message but you can't have that because it's all about you.
>always a projection
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 5:44:01 AM No.40649593
>>40649582
>that doesnt sound to me like its doing anything except portraying themselves as an infallible institution, but, go on, prove me wrong
I'm sorry,
I don't understand what you are getting at here.

Are you saying the church after Christ portrayed itself as infallible?
Or that the book says that it guarantees victory?
(which might be fair to say, but I was trying to debate from the point of view of OP, but I can address that)
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 5:44:33 AM No.40649596
>>40649362
observant. This is a Christian nation.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 5:45:08 AM No.40649599
>>40649593

i am op retard
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 5:45:34 AM No.40649601
>>40649589
>Such as how the OP is distrustful of Christianity and Saul was a prime corrupter of Jesus' message but you can't have that because it's all about you.
Nah, you are free to do that all you want.

If there was some miscommunication you probably should have caught that earlier, seeing as you can clearly tell I'm in the middle of arguing something else as well.

Do you want me to go back and find the miscommunication and clear it up for us?

Do you want to have a tangental conversation about something else?
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 5:46:04 AM No.40649604
>>40649601
No thanks you can go fuck yourself jew
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 5:47:04 AM No.40649609
>>40649599
>i am op retard
That isn't relevant to my question.

I'm asking you why you cited those Bible quotes specifically. I just didn't understand what point you are getting at.

Is this about your OP statement?

Is it really that big a deal for me to ask you to clarify? You are already sitting here responding..
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 5:48:05 AM No.40649613
>>40649604
>No thanks you can go fuck yourself jew
I'm not a Jew. And I denounce the Talmud.
But sure man. God bless
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 5:49:31 AM No.40649618
And that sounds about right.

Looks like they'll need to go to some more antichrist summer school classes.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 5:49:33 AM No.40649619
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md5: 6243aeb0c793e8714bdad85a9df77730🔍
>>40649609

> That isn't relevant to my question.

> I'm asking you why you cited those Bible quotes specifically. I just didn't understand what point you are getting at.

> Is this about your OP statement?

> Is it really that big a deal for me to ask you to clarify? You are already sitting here responding..

so you came in here with no argument, no background knowledge, and only seek to refute a critical lens?

awful adversarial of you, "person who separates the church from christ"

tell me, is christ a title or an adjective?

whats its etymology?
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 5:51:41 AM No.40649630
>>40649619
>so you came in here with no argument,
I had an argument
I made it.
The life of Jesus is a memetically excellent guide to defense against human authority, including Roman, which is the argument against OP.

I did not separate any church from Christ.
Do you want to make an argument about that?

How is that question relevant to the initial argument?

Are you willing to engage in the argument or not?
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 5:52:47 AM No.40649638
>>40649630

youve said nothing to support this case other than vaguely motioning to the book and backpedaling on your condescending intellectual narcissism.

you need to engage with a .40
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 5:55:27 AM No.40649652
>>40649638
>support this case
>>40649399
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 5:57:03 AM No.40649664
>>40649652

>personal description of a book as proof of its contents accuracy

are you actually braindead?
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 5:58:04 AM No.40649672
>>40649638
>vaguely motioning to the book
>>40649652
How much more do you need to engage?
Jesus instructions are to gain control over your body. It is to ground yourself in love so you are stable. It is to pray to a God outside of the human condition for consistency. He says to follow His example, which is to call all authority out on its failings and lies, when they are there, despite any and all threats.

That doesn't sound like joining Rome
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 5:59:19 AM No.40649683
>>40649664
>proof of its contents accuracy
You don't need proof of accuracy for this.

The current debate is that the book makes you bow to Rome. That's OPs argument.
The counterargument is that the character of Jesus tells us not to do that.

At no point does it even need to be real history for the book to STILL be a memetically sound guide for standing against authority.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 6:00:08 AM No.40649691
>>40649672

damn, its a wonder his institution capped that at "be altruistic."

its almost as if somebody had motivations, and understood that raw unchecked altruism is self-destructive.

it doesnt sound like fighting rome to prostrate yourselves at their feet.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 6:01:30 AM No.40649701
>>40649683

damn, and so because he says "fight rome!" he actually did a decent job?

be so fucking for real get out of here glowie bibi's waiting on his next blowjob
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 6:01:36 AM No.40649702
>>40649683
>>40649664
You see, this is how memetics works.
This is WHAT makes the Bible so beautiful, it literally does not need you to prove it.

It has instructions in it that DO NOT requires Jesus to even be REAL, for you to follow them. The only argument against Jesus is that YOU choose not to to do what He says.

That's it. And you are allowed to do that.
That's how simple it is.
If you want to try it, you have instructions that exist outside of narrative, outside of historical accuracy. If you don't try it, then that's a choice.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 6:02:48 AM No.40649713
>>40649691
>his institution
Excuse me?
Did you read the book of Acts?

Which "institution" are you claiming as His?
The one he empowered with the ability to raise the dead?
Or the one He literally renounced while He was here?
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 6:03:54 AM No.40649715
>>40649701
>he actually did a decent job?
The argument is whether or not following Jesus instructions makes you fight Rome or bow to Rome.

Which is it?
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 6:05:05 AM No.40649727
>>40649702

>doesnt need to be proven

>jesus doesnt have to be real

>if you dont try it thats a choice

you sound like a fucking five year old telling people their parents told them santas real

just because you have no critical analysis inside of that xl pea-cave of yours doesnt mean that a book can be its own source.

just admit you're mossad, noone wants to engage with your D tier propaganda
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 6:06:10 AM No.40649733
>>40649715
Bow to Rome? Lol. It literally teaches you to love your oppressors, pay money to intuitions, follow laws or else you'll go to a mystical place of torture
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 6:06:47 AM No.40649738
>>40649727
>a book can be its own source
This is tangental to the argument.

You can't just drag people into unrelated arguments because you are losing the current one.
It literally doesn't matter to me in the slightest if the book references itself as truth, I couldn't care less about that argument.

I came here for one argument,
If you can't have it, then don't.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 6:09:12 AM No.40649756
>>40649733
>. It literally
Excuse me?

What is "It?"

Are you saying Jesus told us to follow laws?
Show me.

The Jesus I read about said "follow me" and he was murdered for "breaking the law", was he not?

As for "paying money to institutions", He said "Give Rome what belongs to Rome", he basically said "literally do not even fucking particupate in their economy. To where I send you with nothing. I can make fish from fucking thin air"
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 6:10:24 AM No.40649763
>>40649738

it is literally central.

your captain isnt teaching you the ontological maneuvering correctly, go back to base.

>You can't just drag people into unrelated arguments because you are losing the current one.
>It literally doesn't matter to me in the slightest if the book references itself as truth, I couldn't care less about that argument.

you keep doing that exact thing yourself, officer.

what, mad you cant distract from your own projection?

> "I WIN I WIN I WIN I WIN YOUVE PROVED NOTHING"

sure buddy. take your meds.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 6:12:48 AM No.40649781
>>40649763
>it is literally central
Not for this argument it is not.

Either explain how it is central or don't, but I do not see a single reason why it would pertain to what we are talking about.

I follow Jesus Christ, I have no other captain.

If you do not have any engagement to make, then we have nothing else to talk about. If you change your mind I'm here
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 6:15:30 AM No.40649801
Cool.
Sounds like we wrapped that up
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 6:15:57 AM No.40649803
Why is rome so jewish? And why do italians look exactly like jews? Strange!
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 6:16:47 AM No.40649812
>>40649781
>If you do not have any engagement to make, then we have nothing else to talk about. If you change your mind I'm here

right back at you, glowie

>>40649803

because they got so jealous of all the corruption that surrounded the second temple that they just *had* to find a way to get in on the trend
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 6:23:00 AM No.40649846
>>40649803
Italians like nothing like jews you shill. If you are suggesting that the most based empire in history is somehow ‘jewish’ then you can leave the internet. For good.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 6:24:39 AM No.40649853
>>40649846

ummmm hello.... cope department?
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 6:28:18 AM No.40649873
>>40649846

i'd say adopting a theology thats rooted in judaism is pretty jewish.

OH WAIT, YOUR ARGUMENT WASTHAT IT WAS NEVER ROOTED IN JUDAISM OR MISAPPROPRIATED, YOU THINK THAT IT JUST FELL FROM THE SKY LMAO
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 6:30:51 AM No.40649887
cool.
sounds like we wrapped that up
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 1:35:30 PM No.40651286
>>40649166 (OP)
Definitely does not come across like the work of the Romans though
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:07:42 PM No.40651386
Monotheism is a hoax so you ignore real gods or call them demons and become passive, all in exchange for a false promise of paradise. I don't know where you go when you die, but you won't go to heaven *because* you're a Christian.

Jesus wasn't a Christian.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:26:56 PM No.40651468
>>40649166 (OP)
chatGPT wrote this post. The quickest tell is the shitty "not this, but that" phrasing that this post is littered with.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:41:43 PM No.40651535
>>40651468
>—
But ChatGPT wasn't wrong.
>ChatGPT, keep in the service of the Lord and stay blessed.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:49:29 PM No.40651566
1751153806943665
1751153806943665
md5: 09849619ace430e494213b9da60a3eeb🔍
>>40649203
>>40649255

I read the book multiple times and came to the same conclusions that OP did. You are not really putting forth an argument here. You are assuming we did not read the book. We read it. It ruined some of our lives. It's mind control. You are under an occult spell.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 3:27:38 PM No.40651732
>>40649542
Because what Jesus taught was harmony with the Romans, and Saul and other Pharisees later transformed the teachings into a nationalist doctrine for the uprising against Rome that got all the Judeans exterminated.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 4:10:55 PM No.40651873
>>40651386
There is not a whole pantheon of them, either. The greek pantheon? Basically the ancient version of the Kardasian family, or the Trumps, or Vanderpumps or the Rothschilds.
Why do you think Trump has been memeing himself as the "god empeor"?
Zeus Jupiter is just a fucking planet he is not god so he should not wear the title. We became weak to demons the moment we ascended weaker entities as gods rather than just what they truly are.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 4:27:43 PM No.40651951
>>40651873
It's the other way around.
The gods are people who do or have done a lot of good.
The truth is in the etymology of the word god.
It comes from PIE "gúd" which means good and god.
It's a merry incidence, some would say coincidence, that people to this day still say God is Good and All Good is God.
Because good things are good.
The Hellenic, Celtic and Germanic mythologies told stories of heroes who were good.
The Christian narrative is that there's a supreme higher being that's the father of Jesus and created everything, but the name God means good.
That would mean then that Jesus is the son of goodness, spread the word of goodness to people, and embodied goodness.
If that is the absolute core truth, without disposing of any of his works, then it follows that there are more than 1 God, more than 1 example of goodness, that more people are good.
And if that's true, then the priests and bishops of the Roman Catholic Church loses its monopoly on what goodness is, and loses control over Europeans.
Establishing that uniform moral control over Europeans was the whole point of the establishing of that church in that way.

None of this violates Jesus's good work, and it explains why Jesus spoke of living the divine example, doing as he did.
Jesus was/is Good, and He was helping people get Good too. Become Good too. Become God too.
The Pharisees couldn't have that now could they.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 4:33:52 PM No.40651974
>>40649203
>All of your arguments always rely on you avoiding the actual context of the book and what it tells you to do.

Ever consider that you're the one reading it wrong by taking it literally?
Oh wait, we have whole clusters of people who take the word out of context to try and make it "fit" in a modern setting of understanding.

You think that these words will help you, when all they do is chain you. They make you hate, they make you rage, they restrict you. They prevent you from addressing the actual problems of reality and channel you into a narrow world view.

Is this memetic virus actually worth your soul?
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 4:37:28 PM No.40651992
>>40649203
When you have witnessed the truth of enough lies you become lieterate.