Why believe in God when Naturalism exists? - /x/ (#40655587) [Archived: 657 hours ago]

Anonymous
7/4/2025, 4:09:06 AM No.40655587
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Christianity says that we are fallen creatures and that's why we are linked to sin and we have a predisposition to it. Then why do animals masturbate, commit cannibalism or necrophilia in nature? They are no subject to sin, they act on impulse

Why would humans be any different? Why are we condemned by sin when animals do the same atrocious act that humanity has done? Why do they commit these atrocities if they are not bound to sin?
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Anonymous
7/4/2025, 4:12:43 AM No.40655616
You can't reason with the slave class. Let them be good goy slaves.
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Anonymous
7/4/2025, 4:18:23 AM No.40655664
>>40655587 (OP)
Nature can't come from nothing.
Anonymous
7/4/2025, 4:24:55 AM No.40655721
>>40655587 (OP)
>Why are we condemned by sin when animals do the same atrocious act that humanity has done? Why do they commit these atrocities if they are not bound to sin
Humans and animals are both affected by the same corruption. The difference is free will. Animals are exempt from it because they dont have a choice, but we do have a choice. That's the difference
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Anonymous
7/4/2025, 4:25:49 AM No.40655727
>>40655587 (OP)
>They are no subject to sin, they act on impulse
Maybe because we're not supposed to act on impulse and instead use our intelligence.
Anonymous
7/4/2025, 4:33:43 AM No.40655762
>>40655721
Nobody but God has free will. He controls all the outcomes.
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Anonymous
7/4/2025, 11:12:47 AM No.40657613
>>40655587 (OP)
Fag shit
Anonymous
7/4/2025, 8:14:00 PM No.40659528
>>40655721
What do you mean by "free will"? Animals live their lives free from overthinking, existential crises and neuroticism of modern techno-industrial world. I think, return to monkey.
Anonymous
7/4/2025, 9:35:26 PM No.40660014
>>40655762
then is that saying he is a heartless tyrant?
if he controls the outcome, then he creates beings knowing full well they're going to hell and have no say in the matter, that they will suffer forever for what reason? because fuck you? why worship a god like that?
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Anonymous
7/4/2025, 9:36:45 PM No.40660018
>>40660014
Those are only your false assumptions.
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Anonymous
7/4/2025, 9:41:53 PM No.40660047
>>40660018
enlighten me then; correct my assumptions, please
Anonymous
7/4/2025, 10:04:14 PM No.40660165
>>40655762
To say god has free will is to imply it has to be free from something in the first place. Nice anthropomorphisation of the divine you disgusting idolater.
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Anonymous
7/4/2025, 10:08:46 PM No.40660187
>>40655616
Telling someone not to have conversations with the other side is the most npc slave thing anyone can do
Anonymous
7/4/2025, 10:08:49 PM No.40660188
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>>40655587 (OP)
>We're all just animals
>predator and prey
Not today, Satan.
Anonymous
7/4/2025, 10:10:25 PM No.40660199
>>40660165
God is limitless.
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Anonymous
7/4/2025, 10:18:49 PM No.40660250
>>40655587 (OP)
I think this is an interesting topic op

I think you'd have to look inside yourself to understand. Bare with me please.
>Why would humans be any different? Why are we condemned by sin when animals do the same atrocious act that humanity has done?
Ask yourself that. Do you know you've done wrong, not on a emotional level but down to the pit of your soul, if you've made your mom cry or accidentally broke someone's expensive antique? Do you understand the deep sense that something inside you is not right, doesn't belong on this world? That's why. Animals don't feel that, they can feel emotional guilt sure but animals can be completely content in the moment and just chill. Humans have a hard time with that. If you look at eastern religions, a lot of their end goal is to become like the animals, acclimate to the world, find peace in the moment and all that. Christianity on the other hand tells you to transcend that teaching and become the healing to the world. BECOME the love and light that you wish you could find. Other religions might teaching things like nonviolence, but the teaching of perfect love eludes them.
>Why do they commit these atrocities if they are not bound to sin?
For the same reason I just mentioned that eastern religions teach. They're just trying to live in harmony with THIS fallen world by doing what they need to get by.
Anonymous
7/4/2025, 10:33:02 PM No.40660317
>>40660199
Therefore neither its will is free nor bound, it's pure, unadulterated, in the moment forever.
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Anonymous
7/4/2025, 10:34:39 PM No.40660330
>>40655587 (OP)
Why believe in electricity when mechanical force exists? Stupid question in title OP.

As for your post, that post doesn't have anything to do with your OP thread title as those are beliefs of a specific religion.
Anonymous
7/4/2025, 10:36:00 PM No.40660343
>>40655762
God does as God pleases.God controls outcomes that matters to God and let's everything else God doesn't care about happen. Nothing happens in God's kingdom without God's permission.
Anonymous
7/5/2025, 3:54:46 AM No.40661979
>>40660317
>pure, unadulterated, in the moment forever.
So...free.