What if you finally cross the finish line, get to be with God forever, and it's not what you wanted? Too late to say no.

>>40662170 (OP)
Your subject line hooked me but your description was too thoughtless and shallow in concept.

The idea of "saved" is the part you should emphasize. What if acting on instinct is true savior? Killing your neighbor for sleeping with your wife, and then skinning her in the streets as punishment for betrayal. Stealing that motorcycle because you wanted it and the concept of money is beneath all of us. Living free without care or consequence to do what you want and when you want it (obviously having to avoid man's law to do so). Freedom from thought, consequence, and self-inflicting judgement, this is being truly saved.

Idk, some guys burn in hell don't worry about it.

I try not to think about it.

Logos = get saved or burn in hell.
Enter some under stuff and get abominated later and burn in hell like the demon lords and the fallen world.

Chances are...you burn in hell.

>>40662170 (OP)
>not what you wanted
You're not there if you still have unmet "wants".

>>40662170 (OP)
You are already with God, some are closer than others. I don't think that Heaven is about a gigantic figure in the middle of some place with everyone around worshipping it. I think it is an utopia.

>>40662193
That's how you get Africa

>>40662170 (OP)
you dont take your personality with you

>>40662170 (OP)
Peter referred to salvation as a helmet. I find this an interesting choice of words as out of armament, why the helm?

Because it protects your head. The salvation keeps us from wrong thought and action. It self perpetuates itself. Once saved, always saved.

Righteousness is depicted as a breast plate. Precisely because it protects our core.

Faith our shield. It endures the harsher moments so they don't take us as swiftly.

>>40662267
It's cool now to be black. You should just get on the bandwagon. At least then any girl will automatically assume you have a big meme dick. It's not like she'll turn you down in the heat of the moment when she finds out the truth.

>>40662170 (OP)
Did you guys know that God is not only righteous but also gets pissed off if you don't worship him
No really go look at Bob Monroe's encounter before his death, in which God inflicted his exact way of passing on him because he was angry at Bob for denying that he was "the God"

>“Ultimate Journey." In the context, Monroe has just resolved to seek out his "source." Then he is accosted by "God" [?] in the same OBE:

>"What! Blinding energy--I cannot move! A voice in my head--a cold, admonitory voice. . . `I AM THE LORD GOD WHOM YOU SERVE.' A feeling of immense pressure, as if I am dissolving. . .Now I am in water...MY LUNGS ARE FULL OF WATER. . .no, it can't be...there is no water...I have no lungs. I am being made to think that is where I am. . . But what is this? What God can this be?"

>DO YOU NOT ACCEPT ME AS YOUR GOD?' The idea of a God who threatens me amuses me...I let this idea flow out. DO YOU NOT FEAR ME?...; YOU ARE DAMNED! YOU ARE NO MORE THAN WASTED ENERGY OF ME, WHO IS YOUR LORD!'"

Bob Monroe died of pneumonia after this published

>>40662302
You're retarded and this has nothing to do with what we're talking about.

>all this love and perfection and goodness just isn't doing it for me
>suffering alone in chaotic evil would have been better
>noooooooooooo!
satan shills aren't sending their best

>>40662170 (OP)
the concept of being 'saved' is a worm theology meant to make you believe you are small.

i have heard of several oobe's or astral projections where someone encounters God and is told to accept God now or burn in hell
What the fuck are you supposed to do?

>>40662357
not believe the dichotomy

>>40662170 (OP)
No. You're Soul becomes fixed when you die you don't want anything else after seeing God.

It's partly why God doesn't physically appear to us in life because it would destroy free will also because it would literally burn your eyes out of your socket as your body literally catches fire as it tries to remove all sin from itself.

Seeing God is literally seeing the most beautiful perfect thing that will ever be. You can't stop looking, you never want to stop looking. It's why the Demons are so cursed because they did look at God and spit at him. You can't look at God and then permanently cut yourself off from him without severe effects to the soul.

Also the short answer to your question is you would go to Hell but Humans aren't as powerful as Angels so good luck.

>>40662357
Go look for God and see what happens.

>>40662404
>Gnostics be like
>I an imperfect lower dimensional being can somehow surpass a being who exists outside dimensions
>I a created form can surpass the uncreated form that created me
Yes draw a stick man on a piece of paper and tell me how long it takes before it becomes human and defeats you.

>>40662556
I'm not sure if it is like this, I think that you do live in Paradise, forever and ever, but I don't think that you are fixed or anything like this, even because I think that it is impossible to see God in His full splendour. In that sense, I believe that He have an eternity full of superior things for us in Paradise. I don't think that He would destroy anyone or anything like that over there, so I don't think that anyone should prefer to go to Hell or anywhere else as they are always with God, except in Hell, and as there would be freedom and superior things in Paradise.

>>40662589
>Go look for God and see what happens.
This is a smarter idea than you realize. Isn't it interesting how none of those astral projectors who met "god" were looking, yet millions of christians reach out every single day and hear nothing back?

>>40662170 (OP)
Your concept of "saved" includes lack, how can there be lack in God? Maybe try imagine being one with God basically being God, what could you lack? What you would lack would be instanly resolved, lack would not exist.

>>40662330
>all this love and perfection and goodness just isn't doing it for me
Perfections refers to a final state, unchanging.
Would being frozen in time and space be fun to do?
Well you wouldn't experience it.

Going to heaven is stopping the cycle of reincarnation, while the path of "satan" is reincarnating.

I don't want to make a thread of my schizo ramblings. I can't even describe what I feel this is probably what everyone else feels, there have been countless lives before me and one day I showed up and it's all for me? I don't think so. I just feel like everything is fake and gay and I have this feel about me that the world was made for me, holy shit I don't know how else to put it I'm embarassed typing this. IDK everything just feels fake and gay

What if you get there and you realize you've been deceived into sacrificing your soul to a malevolent entity that has feasted on billions of other human souls?

>>40662170 (OP)
>it's not what you wanted?
It's not supposed to be about what I want.
"What I want" is what keeps you in samsara.
Being with God means what God wants.
If you dont like that concept, stay in the material.

>>40664086
Indeed. The dualist's 'fundamental attribution error' is precisely this: attributing to the conditioned Many what can only be bestowed by the unconditioned One.

>>40662170 (OP)
It may be the goal for some to be utterly assimilated by a bigger collective. Is it that difficult to understand that each fucking emanation of the Monad might have it's own endgame?

>>40664708
If I want I to become I again, why did I split myself into so many to begin with?

If Wralda/Brahman made us Atman, why would Brahman want Atman to merge back in?

>>40664780
The I Am itself never split. Rather, it imagines a variety of perspectives (souls) and dwells inside them, eternally uplifting the fruitful ones and relegating the unfruitful to the lake of fire.

>>40664799
>Rather, it imagines a variety of perspectives (souls) and dwells inside them
So it's a dream?

>>40664813
External reality? Yes.