How do people reconcile believing in the Biblical God and Christ with paranormal phenomena like psi-powers, astral projection and so on?

>>40663637 (OP)
It isn't hard to do that, but I never understood the point of astral projection, is it just for fun?

>>40663637 (OP)
Is Christ casting out demons not paranormal enough?

Jesus Christ is the sovereign King of Kings, Lord of Lords and all power and might is His.

do christians even browse /X/

>>40663637 (OP)
by looking at all versions of the christian source text, obviously
what does it mean that the Jews wrote the torah, before Christ's emergence, Islam is from is from around 700 BCE, and the brits wrote the King James bible in 1604? What year is it?

it's all god

>>40663664
You are wrong, no one should listen to what you are saying. The Islam emerged a long time after Christianity and the year you compared the Bible to was the year you compared one of it's many translations.

>>40663637 (OP)
>if God and spirits and the other world exist why do some people have experiences with spirits and mysterious stuff
I don't get what part is the dilemma. There are clearly things beyond human earthly comprehension

>>40663637 (OP)
I ask you this in all seriousness, is there a difference, any difference at all, between the act of breathing, and magic?

>>40663637 (OP)
most christians will tell you these psychic abities (scientifically proven btw but not acknowledged by official science) are "demonic" (i.e. you don't just do magic by yourself, it always involves the aid of spirits). which is probably true, given all the anecdotal evidence i have examined. but it seems to be the case that pre-fall humans possessed such abilities, and that they will be restored in the afterlife. it does bother me that most christians consider astral projection and lucid dreaming demonic, because i have experienced these phenomena and they are fascinating. but yeah, it's probably evil sorcerous crap. oh well.

>>40663637 (OP)

Some people can naturally do this. Theyre born with it. Its out of their control it just happens. Its not demons, its not evil, and God does not care or is going to damn you if you experience these things. These abilities do make you more likely to be confronted by demons and evil but you are not and experiencing these things will not. Don't let manipulative zealots fear-bully you. If you talk to any actual priest (not a protestant pastor) but someone who actually went to seminary and has a degree in theology they will tell you the same. The church knows about people like you and they do not view you as a witch or incahoots with the devil. As for your abilities work on your relationship with God, accept them, remove fear through faith, and you will realize why God gave you the gifts soon enough.

>>40664052
>Don't let manipulative zealots fear-bully you

that's not what i was doing in my post. anyway the catholic encyclopedia says all magic works via demons so take it up with the catholic church. but yeah they may well be intrinsic gifts that can be used for good or for evil (i.e. either God or demons will be involved). like i said i myself have sometimes manifested these types of abilities.

>>40663637 (OP)
It's magic and not allowed

Dude, stop posting pictures of me online.

>>40663637 (OP)
Biblical Christendom is arranged to make you believe in restrictions and impossibilities.
Christendom as originally taught is supposed to make you believe in possibilities.
To be God, is to do a lot of good things. The words good and God have the exact same origin. Hence God = Good.
That's what Jesus showed, that anyone can be God by doing good as God would, living by divine example. The way to God is through Him because he did exactly this to become Him.

Too farfetched?
Whatever exists, God made, so goes the biblical tradition.
That means if psi-powers and astral projection are real and exist, God made them, so it's okay.
The process of awakening fits this quite well. "It already existed through God, we're just discovering it".

>>40663637 (OP)
Christ isnt paranormal senpai

>>40664031
>it's probably evil
Why is it evil?

>>40663675
Well the majority of you are disgusting retarded faggots so you couldn't be God.

>>40665329
Are you included?

>>40665338
Nope.

>>40665344
Do you think you might be God?

>>40665347
I think I'm glad knowing that everyone is going to die and I'll never have to see them again.

>>40664758
Not the guy you are talking to,
but I think all these questions boil down to practical answers.
It's not the nature of telepathy that is evil, because two people with the "Holy Spirit" already, biblically, understand each other beyond the understanding of language, with the "Holy Spirit" providing translation,

But these things outside of Jesus are "off limits" because the demons (and fallen angels/false gods, which constitute everyone except Jesus, theoretically) are not truly loving entities.

If the human vessel is limited to be unable to observe and control the spiritual realms the majority of the time, and if the majority of spiritual entities are not entirely benevolent, then it would be unavoidable that any interaction with the spiritual realm outside of Jesus is potentially harmful.

Beyond that,
Jesus on the Cross is sort of like a euphemism for the snake on the cross in the desert- In other words, Jesus doesn't like being here in the fallen world. He doesn't enjoy it, it offends him, He showed us that by showing us how we would kill Him.
That was His way of saying "I'm not going to come hang out in sin. If you want to be around me, you must let go of sin, because I am a free will entity and I choose not to be around your willful sin".

So, when you realize that Jesus turns his face away from this world in that way, (in a certain sense),
You realize that the spiritual realm here is a free-for-all, and somewhat unsupervised.

So,
of course,
if there was a truly benevolent God, He would tell you,
"if you want me to save you and protect you, stop sinning, and don't participate with the spiritual realm outside of me ".


It makes perfect sense really.
It's exactly like a human father,
"if you want off the streets and to come home, you must quit the Meth and stop hanging out with Meth dealers, and you can't make your money selling meth, or call those friends who only do Meth once a week either".
Its a bad metaphor but applies.

>>40665369
Why are you so negative? People can be good

>>40665329
i'm definitely god

>>40665369
>I'll never have to see them again.

>>40663637 (OP) Read ACIM and you'll understand.

>>40663637 (OP)
They label all of those things "witchcraft" and that is punished with Hell. If you have psi-power they will say you are demon possessed. If you astral project they will say you are doing witchcraft. and so on.

Ask for a message from God. Then you’ll see

>>40667780
Go I want a message

>>40663637 (OP)
>How do people reconcile believing in the Biblical God and Christ with paranormal phenomena like psi-powers, astral projection and so on?

What is there to reconcile? There is nothing in the Bible which indicates that these things cannot exist. There is a whole universe of spiritual creatures and powers present in the Christian canon.

>>40665369
That's the great cosmic joke. There is no escaping this universe. You are trapped here forever and given the universe is immortal you will exist again, with all your memories and you will be with all the same people again. Welcome to hell, you're here forever.