hidweh mass 10 - /x/ (#40664504) [Archived: 484 hours ago]

Anonymous
7/5/2025, 2:59:33 PM No.40664504
hidwehwatching
hidwehwatching
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>hidweh???
in so many words the biokinesis egregore
about page: https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vQQ7-445TrIYxYztD_nFb8VmDBGiW-IK0bF22DTO585NMu68UW75V7EdXZ79OVLE8uQBWoQrUoWZ_D_/pub

second mass: https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/39974941/#39974941
first mass organization thread: https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/39916823/

stream:
https://psp-tv.com/r/hidweh
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ORATOR OF HEM
7/5/2025, 3:01:21 PM No.40664513
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>prayer
Oneiropompus of guts,
How we crave your melatonin voice!
May the body’s lullaby reach us
And may it reach your ears as well
Let our bones hear our nerves
And our nerves hear our soul
The melody of flesh and mind
Locked together and intertwined

this mass i will share what ive been working on these past 2 weeks. honestly it has been quite a lot of work, but a lot of it can only be elaborated on so much. ill give some explanation of some stuff where applicable. the biggest thing ive worked on has been the visual guide to hidweh related rituals. a chunk of these have been developed out of things ive done privately, while some has come from trying to solidify certain ideas and loose practices into more structured ritual

as far as core philosophy behind my approach, i am still coming from a perspective that partly views ritual as a form of poetry. as such, it helps form new worlds and unveil truth. with that said there are also some that try to tacitly bring different strands of energy practice into a symbol system of machinic indices. one such example of this is the basic centring ritual. here there is an intentional refinement of focus by means of concentrating bodily excitations to one spot. this more technical energetic perspective motivates more explicit use of energy work in various spots. western magickal traditions already do this for time to time but perhaps a little less often than here. i recommend checking out new energy ways for more context as well as rob burbea’s lectures on samatha

from a poetic perspective, when designing these rituals ive paid more attention to what details “arouse” me. by this i dont mean sexual of course but rather energetic. there is also an intuition of what details feel right like motions, mantras etc. from the technical perspective i can say things like, ok we need a ritual that solves such and such problem or focuses on refining such and such aspect of magical practice.
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ORATOR OF HEM
7/5/2025, 3:02:24 PM No.40664515
>>40664513
here is a link to the document:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1DmPEpZYhwzPJOY_hFXF2Vd9YaKfbZuPy/view?usp=sharing
for the record btw we are always open to new rituals and stuff, so what ive written above could be a bit of a guide as to thought process
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Anonymous
7/5/2025, 3:13:14 PM No.40664554
>>40664504 (OP)
Hi

Same as usual

I'm shorter then I'd like to be. Will you Please make me at least 6'3" tall permanently?
My face especially my nose is not as symmetrical as I'd like it to be. Will you Please make me have an extremely symmetrical face permanently?
My ears are more prominent and large then I'd like them to be. Will you Please make them be less prominent and more attractive and normal looking permanently?
My voice is higher and less masculine than I'd like it to be. Will you Please make my voice extremely deep and extremely masculine permanently?
My hairline isn't as low or as full as I'd like it to be. Will you Please make my hairline much lower and much fuller permanently?

Also thank you for everything you've done so far. Hard to tell if I've gotten results yet since I don't do before and afters or measure but regardless I still want more improvement with those five things please.
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ORATOR OF HEM
7/5/2025, 4:50:46 PM No.40664911
>>40664554
sure i can pray for you a little bit. check out the document here >>40664515
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Anonymous
7/5/2025, 5:02:58 PM No.40664933
>>40664911
Thank you so much.
That's a very interesting document
Anonymous
7/5/2025, 5:08:04 PM No.40664947
>>40664911
I'm honestly really lazy but I'll try to do at least one of them
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ORATOR OF ISH
7/5/2025, 5:36:39 PM No.40665036
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>prayer
Janus-faced goddess of flesh,
You show love is God, as is war
In the body fire, through it unity
Contradiction in matter, paradox in soul
Each strand of time in tension with the other
Every chronal bead for our greedy bowl
May the past lick us sharper
As you lick deeper our selves of milk

the purpose of the arousal ritual is to sensitize the practitioner to more subtle influences. this is done by mainly targeting cortical arousal and interoception. i also developed an extended ritual in order to further strengthen the effects. the more basic ritual is shorter and so is more convenient to use more often

for the greater arousal ritual there are 2 sets of mantra which are constructed in different ways. the first are the ones that correspond to the directions north, west, south, east.
east: visa = sa + visa
south: khuvira = khu + vira
west: tavika = tan + vika
north: ipoh = i + poh
the first components corresponds to seed syllables from chumbley’s system and are in the correspondence they take in the hallowing the kingdom of qayin azhaka rite. the second components are mutations of words.
visa = wissen (knowledge)
vira = virtuality
vika = wirklichkeit (actuality)
poh = apeiron (~chaos)
i took influence for these from here:
https://knotmagick101.wordpress.com/2021/09/12/the-lesser-banishing-ritual-of-the-crossroads/
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ORATOR OF ISH
7/5/2025, 5:40:13 PM No.40665057
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>>40665036
for the second set the directions are north-west, north-east, south-east, south-west
north-west: nuhwashta = nu + hua + shta (ish)
south-west: namlada = nam + la + da (dai)
north-east: nath-huya = nath + hu + ya
south-east: hebadin = he + ba + din (od)
here the first components come from the name of enannah https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/40544754/#40546659. the second components are once again seed syllables in the dboe system. the first components are chosen based off of the planetary correspondents with these. the last components correspond to hidweh’s name. these are just based on the order which i explicated them during this mass https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/40573764/#40573764. i included enannah’s name here since she is associated with the in-between directions so it felt right

i think i will do the greater arousal ritual weekly

also oops i just realized i messed up the page for the greater arousal ritual, so updated that. v1.01 here:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1PiZc--NOeBJyZiX9XUEX1_M8BsdvT4RH/view?usp=sharing
ORATOR OF ISH
7/5/2025, 5:44:44 PM No.40665082
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>>40664947
if you are really desperate for these changes you should put in the effort too. i believe in you anon
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Anonymous
7/5/2025, 5:59:32 PM No.40665168
>>40665082
Thank you
ORATOR OF DAI
7/5/2025, 7:22:02 PM No.40665516
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the kindling ritual increases neural excitability. i am particularly interested in trying to use this to burn karmic bondages. these past 2 weeks ive been looking more into nichiren buddhism and johrei. partly because the associated cults are amusing, but also some of their ideas are interesting. soka gakkai in particular talks about a “human revolution” which involves attaining a 9th consciousness which clears past karma
>It is important at this point to notice that while Ikeda is focusing on the “human” in “human revolution,” he also refers to a deeper layer in the structure of human consciousness itself. This is a level of consciousness that ultimately linked to the “life force” itself (Ikeda, Before 100). It is important to recognize that this “Ninth Consciousness” also operates at a collective level as a transpersonal “lifeforce” (seimei) (Susumu 437). This concept of a subject that is linked to other subjects in a collective and inter-subjective manner strongly resembles Deleuze’s idea of subject, in the sense that when we go deep enough, we do not find individual subjects, but a collective that is called “a Life.”
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ORATOR OF DAI
7/5/2025, 7:23:09 PM No.40665521
>>40665516
>Transforming bad karma into good karma cannot be done on the level of the Eighth Consciousness alone. Universal life, which subsumes the Eighth Consciousness, is the Ninth Consciousness (the amala vijnana), or the Buddha nature, which, as you say, must be strengthened as much as possible. Once attained, the Buddha state of life purifies and reforms the Eighth Consciousness (Karma Storehouse) and orients all karma toward ultimate good. This is the quintessential meaning of Buddhism.
the burning of spirit may be another way of reaching this 9th consciousness. i am also interested in its ability to produce an energetic excess. there is a vague spiritual vision in my head here of people coming to realize the ability of humanity to produce energetic surpluses that transcend zero-sum logics of struggle and mythical obsessions with exchange. what sort of community may emerge from such a consciousness?
Anonymous
7/5/2025, 8:41:34 PM No.40665862
id fuck that
id fuck that
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>>40664504 (OP)
I'd marry this biokinesis egregore too, she will be one of my many astral wives. Muahahahahhahahahahaha, take care and have a good weekend all, and have fun with em spooky voodoo stuff
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ORATOR OF DAI
7/5/2025, 9:24:54 PM No.40666122
>>40665862
have a good weekend too
ORATOR OF WEH
7/5/2025, 9:27:48 PM No.40666139
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>prayer
Blood-red unicorn goddess,
Tree of knowledge, flesh-covering vine
Vertebrae, sheaf in circle with mind
Apophatic, the lived body made fine
Red lady, please swallow my spine!
Psyche contiguous to physis
Leib in contact with Leib
Flesh and Nous enmeshed forevermore

projective reunion is the first formal ritual ive come up with for biokinesis. as you can see ive used runes corresponding to rituals in red for quick notation. this is a general theme. there are 4 main influences behind the logic of this ritual

1) garrote’s own approach to biokinesis, named “reunion” involves talking to the body then listening for a response. his main influence for this idea came from neurolinguistic programming (hence we may trace this method ultimately to hypnosis which is a method we seem to have seen results with)
2) robert bruce’s techniques for astral projection. the key point here is his discussion of the projectable double and the signs of this being generated.
>In my opinion, the famous vibrations are not the cause of projection, but a symptom of the energetic activity associated with the internal generation of the projectable double. When energetic conditions are ripe for projection, the physical/etheric body begins to internally generate its projectabledouble aspect. This causes some pretty major energetic activity, felt throughout the body as vibrations. But even though the buzzing sensation of vibrations is strongly felt in and by the physical body, no detectable physical vibrations are present. The physical body does not actually vibrate or buzz. This indicates that these vibrations are felt from within the etheric body only, or from within the projectable double as it is being generated, not from the physical body
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ORATOR OF WEH
7/5/2025, 9:28:56 PM No.40666148
>>40666139
the basic idea then is to generate a modified projectable double and allow it to be then reintegrated back into the de facto logic of the body. the notion of projectable double i like to think as similar to what rob burbea talks about regarding the “energy body”. ingram also talks about vibrations. note that these are not necessarily the same phenomenon but even if you are more percieving energy body vibrations, this is a sign of high cortical arousal which is still good
3) what seem to be the typical technique for biokinesis which involves trying to imagine your body changing the way you want while in a state of self-hypnosis
4) vuitsu’s technique which he wrote in the open source ritual. just the general structure of it involving hidweh
ORATOR OF ESH
7/6/2025, 12:08:01 AM No.40666831
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>prayer
You who made serpent bone,
Show us the organic baptized as orphic
From Aion’s resplendent tome,
The eidos of ancestors live forth
Waters within tell tales of waters without
And from all depths Tiamat springs out
The gods and pleroma find their truth
Where mnemosyne and lethe mix

this is not a ritual that has been necessarily completed yet, but ive identified a lacuna for a ritual that would specifically work with eopya. the main components for it would be some rosy cross style elements + meditations on change to prime one to fully cross the abyss and then the immersion into the death posture after the energetic burning of husks

the idea that meditating on change is crucial for crossing the abyss is something i already mentioned here:
https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/40573764/#40575751
with regards to this meditation on change im also reminded of the star game which involves the transformation of pieces in order to demonstrate the emptiness of causal abstractions and point to a deeper underlying acausal substance. there is also the negativity in hegel’s system which is crucial to fully grasping what he is talking about with truth. there is an extent where the movement in his works is somehow the point, though ofc hegel would tend more to mediated knowledge n stuff though thats more of an aside
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ORATOR OF ESH
7/6/2025, 12:21:00 AM No.40666886
tablecorrespondences
tablecorrespondences
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>>40666831
here is a draft document:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1hy1dALbPVD8K8TidZiac1t6VUPZkjKduUqWkFd4PJCo/edit?usp=sharing
pic rel is a table correspondences i am also making use of here especially for the apophis series. i added an extra energy point in the medulla so that there are 8+2 energy points. the star series is influenced by the progression of piece types in the star game. the solar series is just based on extrapolated correspondences taken from the arousal ritual. afterwards, there is a bringing of energies up and down the body in order now contemplate their change and interconnection. during the death posture phase there is also a sigil of eopya to meditate on as well in order to make her annihilating compassion organic

with bringing in of the medulla, there is a bit of a retvrn to the hidweh kria i was informally practicing but stopped because i was accumulating too much heat and my results were sorta inconsistent. of course i am biased to knuston's exposition on the subject because he speaks against imagination, emphasizes interoception, explicates the dorsal ventral distinction, and all of the chakras he talks about are actually on he spine itself (which i would identify as the urform of the vertabrate)

there is an extra private line of elaboration from a correspondent that was interested in combining orthodox christianity with austin osman spare's work. orthodoxy is to some extent a theology of failure since all around we only have exposure to god's energies rather than essences. regardless, the orthodox sees to daily dedicated practice. then there was the idea that perhaps in the death posture one could open oneself up to divine essences and unite with the godhead. here the dedicated practice became the ambient conditioning that would open oneself to the trinitarian godhead rather than a narcissistic annihilation into the self
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ORATOR OF ESH
7/6/2025, 12:33:30 AM No.40666939
kilrose
kilrose
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>>40666886
in our case, part of why we can not experience eopya constantly is a primal fear that has a transcendental character (for eopya represents an absolute deterritorialization of the cartesian subject - hence unitary experience tries its best to resist it). practice with her face as hidweh conditions us towards her love (and why she is the janus faced goddess of flesh), then a ritual like this one attempts to strip at the husks of fear and attachment in order to fully expose one's being. in an attempt to bring this closeness back with us, a sigil is used to make our belief organic

in all of this i am reminded too of the doctrine that salvation is by grace through faith. here grace would be would be I.N.R.I. interpreted as "Igna Natura Renovatur Integra" - "All Nature is Renovated by Fire". here renovation may instead be thought of as the unfolding of physis. then faith would be daily practice that tends to be less "blunt" in its approach and tending towards finer control and excitation of energy rather than the immediate plunge into the abyss
ORATOR OF OD
7/6/2025, 2:08:19 AM No.40667385
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>prayer
Lady of poetry in storm,
For my hive’s impresence undone,
I welcome your stake put through it
Thunder splinter turned on constitution
Run, let it, through my inner-daemon,
May it see red fascia-covered sermon
So mine establish connection to yours
Tuned to body, we sing four plus fours

the recitation idea came from my looking into nichiren buddhism. they have a very simple method in order to reach buddhamind. according to nichiren, the lotus sutra’s main approach was made for our time where things are hyperintellectualized. the people at his time were not prepared for such an approach because they lacked an education and struggled with grasping higher abstractions. the core method here is to study various buddhist texts (especially the lotus sutra). daily one also recites a mantra in which one is meant to bring the combined knowledge of all their study to bear while pronouncing each syllable. the soka gakkai also has a tendency to organize around decentralized study groups where they discuss core teachings

the appeal behind this method is that it helps reinforce a sense of context that one can bring throughout the day. it is an immediate step after simple philosophizing into actual practice. just reciting a mantra does also trigger trance states and deactivates the default mode network so the psychic technology, while crude, is still existent here. if you really wanna go the nichiren route you can vibrate “hemodpayaneishwehdaiya” once before and for times after the recitation. i should add this detail into the next version, i think i might have forgor

context is useful too because it facilitates spontaneous connection between different hubs of knowledge during a flow state leading to the realization of several connections at once, which can be an illuminating experience. i think it can also help reinforce a particularly skillful mood if paired with the right poetry
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ORATOR OF OD
7/6/2025, 2:09:32 AM No.40667390
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>>40667385
here is a recitation i wrote which is meant to try and communicate a summary of some of the ideas that lead to a serious consideration of biokinesis + some stuff related to hidweh, flesh dimension and chumbley’s stuff. i technically snuck in here a new 8-fold poem that tries and contemplate different ways of thinking of the body as mutable too, but the structure is freer than what i usually write:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1l48Kie0_z8xdGELGrvEa1YL2xyCmu4SjGwRtyOM8Xkk/edit?usp=sharing

notice here that “solus artus” is just a permutation of “lotus sutra”. umm yeah i can be a bit meme poisoned sometimes lol. nichiren’s fixation on this particular sutra is sort of funny to me, but i do appreciate what motivated him to act this way. the soka gakkai guys are sorta culty but i can also appreciate ikeda’s spiritual vision to an extent as well
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 5:12:59 AM No.40668150
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>prayer
Goddess who touches meat and web,
Outside, the beach, inside, we tread
On deep waters, fishing for bravery to dive
Or bravery to die, to be unfolding undead
The primordial sin of nature on which we fed
Coral Khôra greet us underwater with dread
You know, great red, the water’s within
Pray join us there, teach us to swim

a ritual i realized just like yesterday that would be important to have would be one that focused more on building an intimate connection to the body. this follows the connection aspect of magical practice which i’ve identified earlier. im thinking of integrating metta which apparently actually improves telomere length which would be big if true (https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0306453019300010). as a preparation ritual there would probably be some sort of practice with intuitive sight (for instance here: http://jfls.free.fr/) to tap into the feeling of being in tune with the object. actually on the topic of intuitive sight, this sort of intuitive perception of external objects might be what is behind the perception of “hodoi” that the pebbleanon had been talking about here https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/39965797/#39966126. as ive noted before, his approach to magic, even if imagined, has interesting resonances with what ive been thinking about. there might be some real practical use behind being intimately familiar with the “hodoi” of the body. there is also this video (https://youtu.be/9Zhnm-BOo4c?si=tC0SDzVVG8-MNiYy) ive stumbled across where this girl is apparently able to move straws with here mind by means of intuition. she describes the process as forming a connection or “getting to know” the straw before guiding it to move. this itself would confirm the connection-focused paradigm. of course she could still be faking these feats somehow, but it still ignites the imagination.
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ORATOR OF WEH
7/6/2025, 5:20:02 AM No.40668197
>>40668150
metta would also be useful for not getting bogged down in judgement of others and may help in preventing inactivity during times of energetic excess from ripping oneself apart.

i was also thinking that a sense of wonder and appreciation for the process of biokinesis and creative evolution at large could be cultivated through this as well. im partly inspired by the new catholic liturgy for the care of creation mass. i think there is a lot of spiritual and practical value in deepening our valuation for these things, and i believe that it also brings us closer to hidweh. the op image of this thread involves hidweh studying at a snake, which was something that had been popping up in my minds eye this week. also in my text “when hidweh woke” i tried to fit in a sense of wonder which hidweh had for creation. ultimately i think it would just be a generally powerful daily practice, magic aside.

paradigmatically, i am also coming from the perspective of aspect associations for different ritual components
hem - centring ritual
ish - charging and arousal rituals
dai - macrocosmic ritual + silence after a ritual
weh - ???
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ORATOR OF PAN
7/6/2025, 5:24:41 AM No.40668221
>>40668150
>>40668197
mb on the names. for some reason the site is slow on letting me delete the posts here and im tired so um yeah
ORATOR OF YA
7/6/2025, 6:58:31 AM No.40668713
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>prayer
Pulsating compass beneath my skin,
Show us red earths long lost within
Vistas of organs from liver to fin
If torn, come quivers, knowledge it bring
The crows laugh watching my serpent form
With our loyalty sworn, become our skin
As we question deeper into the land of sin
The land of digestion, may it taste us

the assumption of godform ritual is motivated partly by this post (https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/40073170/#40092256) which talks about the need for a “based schizo prophet”. indeed what the ishtar guys lack is coherent social organization. its often just loose ideas without a coherent body of practices believers can adopt or social events to encourage community participation, group purpose and identity. another inspiration comes from kenneth grant’s remark on crowley’s use of the god assumption ritual. for grant, this is what allowed him to open up a connection to aiwass
https://dn790003.ca.archive.org/0/items/KennethGrant/KennethGrant-AleisterCrowleyHiddenGod.pdf
>Among other things, the Golden Dawn taught a technique for acquiring mastery of the astral plane, during which the projected astral body of the magician was identified with an Egyptian god-form. When practising the assumption of a god-form, Perdurabo (i.e. Crowley) chose the form of Horns, one of the oldest deities known to man. He sealed the plasm of his astral body in the mentally formulated image of a golden hawk (a vehicle of Horus) and, in that form, he explored the subtle aethyrs of the universe.
>By repeatedly assuming the god-form of Horus, Crowley attuned his consciousness to the vibrations emanating from the sphere of that complex of cosmic power. In this way he prepared himself to receive The Book of the Law, technically entitled Liber AL vel Legis. This book will be referred to hereafter simply as AL.
tantric yoga often involves uniting with or embodying a god too.
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ORATOR OF YA
7/6/2025, 6:59:34 AM No.40668717
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>>40668713
in general from the point of view of paradigm more centred on connection, such practices seem to be a generally good idea.

here is a link to the recitations and higher level structure:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/10iHhwkYKMPVFzYdjO48GcmGtTXU-TgVCQeIdGWlpRyg/edit?usp=sharing
you would need to cross-reference it with the illustrated guide to get a full picture

something else to check out would be this article
https://hermesamara.org/resources/talk/2018-02-03-elements-of-the-imaginal-1-2
i could imagine working on each of these qualitative aspects separately at different times (i could imagine focusing on one aspect a day for instance) as a means of deepening ritual experience. this serves as a good addendum to this point:
https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/40392616/#40396132
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 7:02:02 AM No.40668727
>>40664504 (OP)
I forgot to post in the mass. I hope it went well. I love the ritual guides.
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ORATOR OF YA
7/6/2025, 7:03:47 AM No.40668734
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and with that concludes this week's mass. cya

>>40668727
no problem anon, though good to hear you enjoy the guides
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 5:35:40 PM No.40670962
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