Thread 40681712

Bc it's done with a faculty that could be doing so much more in that time?
What then huh, niggers? Maybe fantasizing is as impotent as undirected daydreaming.
If so, it'd clear up a lot of why "cooming bad". Maybe it's fantasizing, not ejaculation, that causes coombrain.

>>40681712 (OP)
what if productivity is the fantasy dead man

>>40681717
What if fantasy is the death of ever greater Creation, small man?

>>40681723
what if categorizing and hierarchically organizing creating is your fantasy alone fellow man?

>>40681727
What if there's something better to do than retreat into la la land, especially upon hearing... "What if?"

>>40681731
you already believe this and you think its large productivity, how much of your unstated more would be enough?
ps - i have full sensory aphantasia - its an afantastical world

>>40681739
Nah, I'm only humoring the idea that fantasy may not be the most optimal thing to invest in, in terms of productivity, morality or whatever else.
MAYBE someone with "full sensory aphantasia" is not equiped to participate in discussion on the topic of identifying what the faculty behind fantasy is and how to, maybe, make more of it. Or maybe you are! I dunno.

>>40681755
forgor to post my portrait

>>40681755
>Or maybe you are! I dunno.
apt, abstract synthesis of memory recall > mental tv.
as to your main point, have another look at our chat, i never disagreed with you to say that - investing - in fantasy is good. ill reiterate, production of the temporary in any quantity is a fantasy to your eternity.

>>40681767
Hm. Maybe the medium one envisions onto in fantasy is more temporal than one's (microscopic) body.
Or it's smaller.
Or it's less directed, precise etc..
That'd make some sense.
I mean, I can imagine letters with my eyes open, depending a bit on where I'm at. That's how I prove - to myself - that fantasy has to do with the faculty of vision, and that vision can be active.
Maybe "memory review" is also an application of that faculty.

>>40681794
i can recall letters ive seen before if i need to think in letters for some reason but even translating my totemic networks of memeplexii into words feels like lag, the more sensory recall you inject into your thinking the more network latency you introduce into the process.
ps - all thinking is memory recall, those who think in words probably had a fuck ton of literacy prepuberty, those who dont largely think in visuals / biokinetic recall.
pps visual snow / tinnitus is different, they are vision / hearing that do not come from the eye or ear. for fun if you conciously alter your mental state did you know that waves will begin to coalase at the edge of your perceived visual snow and form into geometry and images in the center of the minds eye (because i dont really think in images otherwise shits pretty fucking dramatic)

>>40681811
I've been actively optimizing my letter system for years now, but yes I did have a glut of literacy from childhood that sorta helped but also meant that the work is now harder but I can communicate clearly across memeplexes or as I tend to put it, language domains.
And hm I don't always think with letters, letters and words and language are really for output or sharing. For mutual intelligibility. I mean, I guess if I had a gang I was super tight with I'd use it more, but still...
>for fun if you conciously alter your mental state did you know that waves will begin to coalase at the edge of your perceived visual snow and form into geometry and images in the center of the minds eye (because i dont really think in images otherwise shits pretty fucking dramatic)
not like so exactly, sounds fun.
did you know that if you look at the blue sky and the sun hits your eye at an angle, some of the time you'll see blobs move squigly patterns? they're white blood cells in the veins in your eye, so their movements follow the shape those veins have taken on. they kinda look like they're dancing.

oh and they're sometimes called eye floaters.
I thought they were worms at first lol no they're okay

i know exactly what you mean~

ps - you ever get / induce a head rush and see the sparkie things? id describe them as 1 - 2 inch sparks that alternate between a black and white with a contrast beyond the eyes ability to innately capture with high frequency, with many of them will be moving around in your local vicinity?

>>40681829
also consciously alter your mental state was kinda vague, what i meant was a type of meditation where you induce power emotive states at will.

>>40681840
just this one
I've a pretty strong affinity with material things and don't like flies, so I tend to work away irregularities that are small and fast moving. sometimes to my detriment lol, bricks are not the answer to losing the layer of plaster in some veins.
>>40681848
like a jhana?

>>40681712 (OP)
To learn more about the topic:
http://www.bahaistudies.net/asma/mundus_imaginalis.pdf
https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/38226491/#38302557

>>40681859
>jhana
i was not familiar with the term till now, if this is an apt description - https://www.dhammawiki.com/index.php?title=9_Jhanas - i spose im stuck on 7? things are
also their listed 9 is silly, perception is as infinite as space or consciousness and thus has no limits.
ps - you dont pierce the veil with your minds eye you do it with your cock, and the void is only veiled as would be your bride on the day of your wedding

also from the thing i just linked
>Ajaan Fuang once said that as a meditator you need to learn how to lick yourself off
this quote is top tier.

>>40681867
thanks for the effort but I find this sort of systematization of mental phenomena quite thorny, maybe I'll find a place for it when I'm farther along my path.
>>40681873
yeah it's a pretty interesting classification, but more helpful to look at how to attain arahantship or one of the three lesser attainments (least being stream entry / sottapati). I think it's mainly intended for stream enterers and beyond so they know what to call those states, precisely bc they're not essential to progression on the Buddhist path.
>>40681882
funny and real, I know to do some of that in a very literal sense. (but it's not graphic like the joke.)

>>40681712 (OP)
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>>40681794
Would y'all just fuck each other in the bum already and get it over with? This conversation between mental midgets is causing so much dissonance, it's making yard dogs half-way across the country howl like crazy.

>>40681981
nice fantasy, but this board is blue and you contributed nothing to the thread either

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>>40681712 (OP)
Just focus on paying your taxes like good cattle. Nothing else should be important for someone like you.

bumping my quality thread

>>40681712 (OP)
Your argument is inherently wrong because fantasy is less sensational than reality, which means that reality would have to be pretty miserable to choose fantasy over reality, because reality is inherently "greater than (more sensational)" than fantasy which means a reasonable person would always choose reality over fantasy if the experiences were commensurate in their nature, because the real experience would be more satisfying. The only reason to fantasize about anything is if I can't do anything better than that, in an absolutely tautological sense if I could do something better than fantasy then I would because reality is more sensational than fantasy. It's God's fault for creating a world that is almost entirely suffering which will naturally make a person want to fantasize about something better

>>40683459
>Just focus on paying your taxes like good cattle. Nothing else should be important for someone like you.
Classic midwit response. If you ever done anything creative with your live then you would know that creation comes spontaneous from nothing without foresight about the end result. Creation from imagination is regurgitation, falling into learned patterns.

OP: lately I've been thinking about this a lot as well. Fantasy is a false idol. Anything we imagine is from this restricted world ruled by something that doesn't want the best for us. Look how all the "creative" works have been subverted and assimilated by popular culture.

Midwits like the quoted anon and many of the soul trap, prison planet, demiurge kind of crowd confuse not-thinking, no-mind, living in the now and suc with new age psyops to join the borg, but what of course is truly meant with these fingers pointing to the moon is that when give up all our imagination, we empty the cup to make room for the unknown and only the unknown can truly be creative out of the bounds of this restricted world.

Is every one on /x/ horny for this muscleman?

right, because posting homoerotic pictures of men on a schizo board totally isn't a waste of time. Live what you preach. How about you stop wasting time and never come back here ever again?

>>40681873
Dropping hot Paroketh tips I see
>The Path of Death is linked to the astrological sign of Scorpio, which is a deeply sexual sign and it can be seen that the dancing of the forces has a sexual angle. The climax to this is the state of Tiphareth, where all activity takes on a transcendent mode; it is at this point where the bliss generated from sex can be experienced. The harmony and beauty here are released.
[...]
>In its highest level, the card symbolises the ultimate transmutation of the lower human energies, the passions of Netzach into the sublime reaches of purest spirit. The transmutation is total and is the sublimation of all things and specifically the sexuality. To the Path of Nun is ascribed the mysterious depths of Scorpio, to which are attributed sex and death. Hence, in the Golden Dawn card, a miniature motif to the top right depicts the transformation of a wriggling snake into the soaring eagle.
https://iok-kabbalah.org/trees/Nun.html
Really doubt you're as advanced a jnani as you say however, at least greentext some meditation experiences

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>>40686742
nta but we sigmas identify with the male model not the model's hypothetical lover

>>40686899
shrimpma male. Shrimpdickma

Shrigma's rise up.
Anyway please keep it to the topic of what could be better than fantasy.

>>40687358
impregnating the void within as without with your fantastical memes

>>40681712 (OP)
>could be doing so much more in that time?
Dreaming, daydreaming, fiction, and games are training. You might not ever use it, or you might.

>>40688061
proof that training is better at anything than real experience and practice: cultivation?

>>40688061
... why did you not post proof?
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>>40681712 (OP)
There is nothing worth doing that is better or worse than anything else worth doing. This kind of thing only works on children.

>>40681712 (OP)
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BATTLE OF THE CHADS

When reality bends to my will it is through the power of fantasy.

I've said it once and I'll say it again.
Ucrony, that is, thinking about what could have been, is a deadly sin.

>>40681811
Not him, but black hexagon

Don't live but train to live they told me.
Prepare for another life that may never come at the cost of your life.
I laff'd.

Anyone else got thoughts on fantasy in a wider context?

*Chad thinking noises*