Julius Caesar came before Jesus, JC used to stand for Julius Caesar, Jesus is very much more modern invention (maybe didn't even exist?). Something about Julius Caesar history was inconvenient, so they wanted to muddy the water by adding a newer Jesus. Problem with Jesus is that there's no oral teaching telling the story of jesus (I'm of opinion a well preserved oral teaching is more reliable than written text), it relies heavily on invention of printing and distribution of books (namely bible). Does this ring any bells to you? Because it's direct paralel to the invention of television. I'm suggesting that both TV and advent of printing share same goal, indoctrination and propaganda of the masses (extra points of sus for bible being the first book that went into widespread distribution). That's why I'm saying a book about jesus is just as credible source as a television show about jesus. You have to ask yourself, if you're a white person/european, how come there's no oral teaching about jesus in your culture? And why should you believe a book about a person which doesn't have oral teaching in your culture/society? Either some kind of flood happened or some inconvenient figure showed up sometime in history, and that figure had to be memory holed (caesar or someone else), so they have had to edit/erase large portion of history, and that's why Jesus story was invented afterwards in an attempt to patch that hole.

>>40691036 (OP)

Yes, the distinction between the Actual Yeshua and the OUT-OF-ROAD-MAP-NECESSITY Christ figure that the DEPOLORABLE JUPITER ZEUS gave for his Satanic Monotheist Empires.

stop shilling your quasi-mythicist hypothesis on the paranormal board that is apart of this mongolian basket-weaving forum

>>40691036 (OP)
>oral teaching is more reliable than written text

The texts are the oral teachings which were written down in the time of papias.

>JC used to stand for Julius Caesar

Evidence?

>how come there's no oral teaching about jesus in your culture?

It is called the Catholic Church

>That's why I'm saying a book about jesus is just as credible source as a television show about jesus

He even has a radio show you should listen to

>>40691459
>He even has a radio show you should listen to
Thanks for proving my point.

>>40691550

The show is right on your intellectual level

https://www.iheart.com/podcast/85-jesus-christ-show-20414600/

>>40691036 (OP)
I’ll deboonk you.
Dead sea scrolls. Done.

>>40691036 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gcm-tOGiva0

Jesus was relevant for his time period, but honestly who gives a fuck? Christianity isn't really about Jesus. It uses Jesus as a bobblehead doll. We don't need oral teachings of Jesus when we have countless heroic narratives that are profuse through every form of media.

You make a somewhat interesting point about the printing press though. I've never studied that part of history.

>>40691720
Those, along with nag hammadi scrolls, were conveniently found just after WW2. So those two were more than likely forgeries, simply because of the timing of when they were found, imo. Just too convenient timing

>>40691036 (OP)
lol, that's funny. So instead of any ancient written texts, if you can find a living person who claims to be the end of a long line of oral tellings, you'll sooner believe his spoken words, which have been handed off dozens of times over the generations?
Wow. That's extra fucking retarded.

>>40691976

>>40691945
Carbondated

nah
jews had already conquered rome by caesar then he got rekt by based brutud so it fucked everything up
thats what the messianic crisis was about
the prophecies being wrong
their manually chosen and in no way divine savior getting rekt
the gutter jews all started freaking out
which necessitated christianity, and where paul came in
they merely made jesus's name match julius caesar's, much like yahweh matched jove's
and theres just that giant easter egg with his name to make it obvious to jews its all just a psyop and to trust the plan
theres a reason theyre so obsessed with the number 7
jew-ly
they tried again, lazily, with titus, and he too got rekt
then Revelation was a bunch of jewish seething about nero redidivus coming back from the dead to kill their messiahs. which is a funny story. there were like 5 imposter neros who all popped up lol. jews thought they were seein ghosts and shit

>>40692023
and they still forgot about the naked boy

>>40693503
>Caesar
Took the short bus today

>>40693510
needs more afro picks imo
this is a fuckin NIN'I board anyway

>>40693510
What does the image mean? The first eleven phoenician characters? Those numerals come from Arabic.

>>40693598
dead sea scrolls aren't real

>>40694330
They actually have been carbon dated

Or was that the nag hammadi scrolls. Either way something was carbon dated

>>40694465
carbon dating isn't perfect science. they keep testing until they get numbers that fits whatever agenda must be accomplished, and report those numbers back, while discarding the numbers that don't fit the agenda.

>>40694465
>trusting anything (((academia)))

>>40694330
dead sea scrolls are the only things real
but theyve been scrubbed through for 50 years until uselessness
all the based stuff about killing all the goyim is gone, obviously

>>40697207
>dead sea scrolls are real
What's the proof for that? I think it's much more likely that they're forgeries

>>40693508
The word used in the original Greek refers to someone past puberty or in their early 20s.
It was also someone who was wearing what was potentially a burial cloth. Get your head out of the gutter. This one trick pony of the kid diddling is starting to get old and drowning the legitimate targets.

>>40697913
why? theres nothing even in them. its all a bunch of overly obsessive hygiene rituals to try to mitigate their jewish disease
these people were living like animals in caves.. they probably had sooooo many buttworms

>>40698486
Is this some parasite pill thing now?

>>40697944
i stopped growing at 16 or 17
that boy was still growing, so... unlikely he was 20
idk why thats so controversial, most of the people who followed him wouldve been that same age

what about you? could you just up and stop everything youre doing, stop working to go be a roadie for some band?

>>40698524
>i stopped growing at 16 or 17
>that boy was still growing, so... unlikely he was 20
What?

>>40698496
why do you think those threads stopped?
they never made sense anyway. what sort of person has butt worms?

>>40698551

>>40698532
the word used to describe him is not simply 'man' which is νεανίας, it is νεανίσκος,
the word you would use for someone that age is νεανίας, which means a young man or youth, is usually applied to someone in his early twenties, but can extend to somebody older who has good genes and still looks like a younger man relative to his age. but the important thing is it is speaking of someone who has fully grown.

but when you use the suffix σκος which is a diminutive form of this same word, it emphasizes someone younger and more importantly, someone who is NOT fully grown.

>>40691036 (OP)
Everything is bullshit in the physical world. Some of it is fun and pretty to look at, but at the end of the day, it's all manipulated information being funneled through manipulated beings. If you want the truth, stop reading, stop thinking, be as non-existant and silent as possible until you can hear Gods choir. Then all you have to do is listen.

>>40698564
>broke down in tears crying
>two days later government thugs burst into his office and took everything
just be smarter than people with butt worms. thats all you gotta do. thats all youve ever needed to do.

>>40698564

>>40698564
i think i found the parasite kek

>>40697913
The timing seems too convenient

>Catholic
NGMI

>>40698564
This thread is highly relevant: >>40643348

>>40698564
You know what else this makes me think of?
The brain chips from The 100.

https://the100.fandom.com/wiki/Mind_Drive

Imagine if they even performed a ritual of transferring the parasite from one host to another, like the flamekeepers do in the show.

>>40698564
Makes me think of RFK Jr. and the brain worm infection he had excised. Now he's trying to ban certain substances and he's surrounded by "scientific" freaks all trying to shout him down for removing ridiculously toxic chemicals from our water and food. Wonder what's up with that?

>>40691036 (OP)
Julius Caesar attained power by breaking conventional Roman culture in a gamble to seize power. Julius Caesar was assassinated and after his death the public went into a frenzy to find the perpetrators for revenge.

Jesus of Nazareth was a healer. It's important to read the Bible for yourself and see the miracles Jesus accomplished despite not having the medical system as we know it today. If you were disabled during Jesus's time, your only hope would have been God in the flesh. The instances of Jesus curing many different people of their ailments is well documented in the Bible.

>>40700965
meh

>>40693503
source for this stuff you're spouting?

>>40704637
book of maccabees
syballine oracles
christ in egypt the jesus horus connection - d.m. murdock
citations in the above
complete works of philo
creating christ
caesar's messiah
the great jewish masque
https://files.catbox.moe/lynena.pdf
the darkening age
https://archive.org/details/the-darkening-age-the-christian-destruction-of-the-classical-world

knowing the politics of the period helps, jews role in the region, the various interactions with them, even the fake and forged accounts. so youll want tacitus, suetonius, pliny, josephus, cicero, etc. you can get a better timeline of the region from Herodotus - Histories than the bible.
i only have the audiobook
https://files.catbox.moe/4t9ns1.torrent

elephantine papyri for the state of jewish religion circa 4th century
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elephantine_papyri_and_ostraca
https://archive.org/details/the-elephantine-papyri-in-english

accounts of jews being leprous plaguerats, the moses character's inspiration Osarseph, probably still fake
https://web.archive.org/web/20221206094402/https://skeptically.org/oldtestament/id4.html

siege of jerusalem
https://files.catbox.moe/tzx129.jpg

accounts of jews worshipping donkeys
https://commonpaine.blogspot.com/2012/09/donkey-god.html

just read, know the history of jews, know the history of the region, know the history of greeks, rome. its fun.
history as youre taught it has just been a bunch of jewish apologists always trying to interpret things from a biblical historicity and scrubbing out all the jewish involvement along the way. they rely on sophism and people whose expertise is only in one specific field, and discredit anyone who has expertise in more than one, which is mandatory to understand the jewish war against the world.

just read books dude.

>>40705461
>>40704637
heres cicero's in defense of flaccus for lucius valerius
https://www.attalus.org/cicero/flaccus.html

the YO5E period work you can find in the archives, elegabalus, caracalla, etc.

>Here’s an earlier attempt to co-opt Roman religion and make it jewish.
>Using Dionysus instead of Jesus
> The first Jews who settled in Rome were expelled in 139 BCE, along with Chaldaean astrologers by Cornelius Hispalus under a law which proscribed the propagation of the "corrupting" cult of "Jupiter Sabazius", according to the epitome of a lost book of Valerius Maximus:
>Gnaeus Cornelius Hispalus, praetor peregrinus in the year of the consulate of Marcus Popilius Laenas and Lucius Calpurnius, ordered the astrologers by an edict to leave Rome and Italy within ten days, since by a fallacious interpretation of the stars they perturbed fickle and silly minds, thereby making profit out of their lies. The same praetor compelled the Jews, who attempted to infect the Roman custom with the cult of Jupiter Sabazius, to return to their homes.[23]
>By this it is conjectured that the Romans identified the Jewish YHVH Tzevaot ("sa-ba-oth", "of the Hosts") as Jove Sabazius.
> This mistaken connection of Sabazios and Sabaot was often repeated. In a similar vein, Plutarch maintained that the Jews worshipped Dionysus, and that the day of Sabbath was a festival of Sabazius.[24] Plutarch also discusses the identification of the Jewish God with the "Egyptian" Typhon, an identification which he later rejects, however. The monotheistic Hypsistarians worshipped the Most High under this name, which may have been a form of the Jewish God.

bump

>>40700450
QRD?

>>40698564
I don't know anon this sounds a lot like demonic possessions

>>40705507
It's almost like Jesus only operated in one province and not the whole roman empire

>>40709409
My guess is that they could be putting the parasite in through the eye.

>>40709518
well there were people who tracked cults in that one province that was in the middle of the roman empire at the time in question and they never heard of the guy. tons of foot traffic moved through the area engaging in trade, commerce, holy pilgrimmages and for many other reasons, and there was no 'word on the street', no one had ever heard of the guy. it says the temple had like a curtain, and when jesus was sacrificed it cracked. there was something like 200,000 pilgrims in the city for passover, and not a single one of them mentioned it. something like that happening would have caused a great disturbance and general unrest, yet no one passing through made any mention of anything out of the ordinary happening, nor did the romans themselves, nor did the jews. you ever read jewish records about their temple? they kept almost nazi levels of detail. every dimension was recorded and accounted for, every inch of it was monitored. yet no mention.

thats just one example. the same is true for a thousand others, all with the same phenomenon. youd think god being born and being slain and resurrecting would be front page news (yes, they had those, the acta diurna), but alas, no. the syballine oracles passed information from rome to jerusalem in 3 days.. god incarnate being on earth for 33 years in the middle of the roman empire during one of the most well documented periods of history, though? half a century.

>>40710737
>well there were people who tracked cults in that one province that was in the middle of the roman empire at the time in question and they never heard of the guy. tons of foot traffic moved through the area engaging in trade, commerce, holy pilgrimmages and for many other reasons, and there was no 'word on the street', no one had ever heard of the guy.
It's plausible that god made Jesus operate in secret and kept the miracles hidden from the Romans because Jesus himself said he wouldn't let himself fall in front of the crowd of people to make a spectacle of himself, as spectacles don't save.
Also even as Jesus was born God had to hide him from King Herod who sought to kill him out of envy.
> it says the temple had like a curtain, and when jesus was sacrificed it cracked. there was something like 200,000 pilgrims in the city for passover, and not a single one of them mentioned it.
>youd think god being born and being slain and resurrecting would be front page news (yes, they had those, the acta diurna)
>Pic rel
As Jesus once said, if they don't believe moses and the prophets, they will not believe even if the dead were raised to life. It's possible the reports were simply discarded, or the Romans were afraid of reporting the happening in fear of being thrown in asylum for being considered insane
There was a recording of a solar eclipse happening right in the area where Jesus was crucified which lines up with scripture when the land darkened around Jesus's death.
Also news medias don't report on things like certain manifestos (think nashville shooter) and certain cryptids like Dogman appearances and UFOs in order to prevent mass hysteria.
It's plausible that even the Romans would have to cover up such an even as to not cause hysteria throughout the Roman empire. As again if Jesus said they will not believe even if the dead are raised from the dead, the people would end up jumping to other conclusions.

>>40710871
Also I doubt that Jesus/God would have raised the dead with rotten, odorous bodies, instead of restoring them to the state from when they are alive. Much like he would will do in the second coming

>>40710871
>As again if Jesus said they will not believe even if the dead are raised from the dead, the people would end up jumping to other conclusions.
And again Jesus also said he didn't not want to make spectacles of himself because spectacles don't save so it's plausible God would have helped covered that up from the masses as well.

>>40691036 (OP)
Christianity was the I AM doctrine veiled for the piscean age, a judeo-masonic concoction, specifically Jupiter and the Sun in Pisces. Islam was Venus in Pisces. For the aquarian age the I AM doctrine will be veiled under the guise of AI and other technological creations.

Jesus = Je suis = Jeshua = Yah Weh = Jove = Jupiter = Zeus = Deus = I AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZftML6pAv7E

>>40710919
>2 hours long
I'm not watching all that, lmao.
I wouldn't even watch the "Story never told" when I was a /pol/cel

>>40710871
you know whats even more possible?
jews lied.

>>40710937
im not that guy but ive seen it.
you should listen. its pretty good. dont be fooled by that ratio, it used to be 1000:1
its basically zeitgeist, but only focusing on jesus

>>40710963
You know what's also plausible? That the anon is a /pol/cel trying to discredit Jesus because he has the anti-christ spirit and is purposefully misrepresenting the meaning of the artifacts to an population who is already blind and doesn't truly believe in God

>>40711075
all you have to do is buy back all the dictionaries jews acquired in your own mind and revert the definition of the word 'god' from 'jesus' (where it is now) to *undefined*

'god' still exists, you just have nothing other than a word, and now it is up to *you* to remember.

'god' isnt some long term gf you havent popped the question to yet because you know youre not right for each other, you shouldnt need to have to try to make it work, it should be the most familiar thing in the world to you, more familiar than your own body.
and so long as you mix up the concepts 'god' and 'jesus' or 'god' and 'yhwh', you are spiritually in limbo at best, but more likely spiritually receding. if it were just you, thatd be one thing. but you promote this poison constantly, everywhere. god doesnt require promotion. god is more natural than your own mother. all you have to do is be spiritually independent again, as you were born, and you will remember.

>>40711866
>and so long as you mix up the concepts 'god' and 'jesus' or 'god' and 'yhwh', you are spiritually in limbo at best, but more likely spiritually receding.
This, 100%. Even worse is the possibility that abrahamic religions (judais., islam and christianity) are the lite/optics version of secular judaism/satanism, jewish mysticism/zohar, and Freemasonry. Freemasons and Jesuits seem to have such easy time blending within/among Christians, without getting noticed by Christians. Maybe it's because it's not so different from Christianity?

>>40711866
May I ask who or what are you?

>>40710963
Well jews lying is true, and they don't view gentiles in good light, so it's weird to assume they'd ever want to come up with a religion that lifts up the gentiles

>>40710919
why remove post?

>>40712638
i couldnt provide you the answer to that question even if i wanted to. i'm just someone whose passing through, waiting to go home now.

>>40713538
The ship is coming... heading to vega, felines... two more weeks

I'm just gonna add to this thread that when Julius Caesar took Rome from the high priest Pompey and his "senators", the first thing he did was commission and consecrate a Temple of Jupiter, and elevate it above the ruling temple of Saturn.
There's too much resistance to add anything else.

>>40711075
If you believe in God and Jesus and that noble holy sacrifice, you believe in the duty to seek truth and bear the burden of learning.
The Lord gives you paths to walk and you're free to say no but at some point there no other path to walk but the last one He has in store for you, and it leads you to questions that need asking.
Was there a real Jesus? Yes. Was there a real sacrifice? Yes. Did it happen the way it was written? I find not. That's the path God gave me.
But through my journey, and other people's journeys, I have come to learn that Christendom (literally the Domain of the Chosen) is nothing but a Judean cult.
The #1 thing that should help you raise questions is the observation that Communion, the ritual where you consume the blood and body of the Christ, is mock cannibalism. A sanitised version of the original ritual where the blood wasn't lemonade/wine and the body wasn't a cookie.
And I still love and trust God.
Truth sets one free and brings one closer to God, remember.

Oh yeah another important matter.
The meaning of the word God.
It comes from proto Indo-European and proto-Germanic, "gúd". We still use that word today: good. And that's exactly what it meant back 4000 years ago.
Goodness. Hence God is Good and Good is God.
Goodness being harmony and wonderful things.
That also means a God is someone who does a lot of good.
But apply this to the NT for a bit, try replacing God with Goodness and see how the somewhat vague feeling parts suddenly clear up and become overt in what they mean.
"The only way to goodness is through me (and my example)".

Jesus is a hellenized version of Joshua. Christ is the Greek word for Messiah. Mosshiach is translated as "Christus" in the Septuigint the Greek translation of the Old Testament, which predated the authorship of the New testament by 4 centuries or so Christianity subverted themes within the imperial cult of Rome. It wasn't created out of the imperial mythos itself though. The idea was to supplant worship of the Roman emperor as a god king with the worship of a Jewish Messiah and ultimately getting the nations to now to the God of Israel.
This had to do with fulfilling Isaiah 60:14.

"The sons of those who afflicted you shall come bending low to you, and all who despised you shall bow down at your feet; and they shall call you The City of the Lord, Zion of the Holy One of Israel.

I've seen the movie Caesars Messiah, which puts all the blame on the Romans for creating Christianity, but I think it had more to do with subversion from Jewish influences on the empire. The Romans had traditions and gods they were proud of. I don't see why they would choose to ban all the other religions, including the Roman ones, in favor of a heavily Judeo-centric religion like Christianity. I think there was something of a lobby back then, kind of like AIPAC, pushing to make Christianity and Yahweh worship the only allowable religion.

>>40691036 (OP)
It was created in the 16th century to counter the renaissance movement.
Many patrons for the arts where in the catholic church, which worshipped Cybele at that time. Some elements got envious of all the art and luxury, and started the reformation, which introduced the cult of Jesus. The first human clones were also made in the 16th century, which prompted the idea of a "creator god".
Also they marked the years with a j, from Janus, the god of the year, which was pretty popular in Italy. Hence why they named the new character Jesus, which made conversion easier.

Interesting fact, the Jews of ancient Rome had a favorable in view or loyalty to Julius Caesar. After his assassination, much of the Jewish community was seen participating in the public displays of mourning for the slain emperor.

>>40715693
Sorry but I'm not buying jewish name conventions. If it has a jewish origin, then it is fake.
The jews were the sarmatians of old, who were granted banking rights in Europe. They were at the core of the reformation which countered the renaissance. So using their myths as a base holds no weight here.

>>40715728
Some interesting stuff
>The first human clones were also made in the 16th century, which prompted the idea of a "creator god".
This is may not be that far off. I'm of the opinion there was some mudflood fairly recently, happened some period within 1600-1800, and that some new humans were injected/introduced into human population (like how the north american native indians said north america used to belong to "whites", but that the europrans that arrived there later weren't the same whites).

>>40715753
You just release a thousands clones in human populations, and within two generations the golem gene will spread.
Just check greek myth, there Earth is Gaia, and she is born from Chaos, not made from the hand of a creator god.
Who is made from the hand of a creator? Machines. Clones. Hence creation myth.
This myth of men created by mud comes from the reformation. It was retroactively injected into greek myth, and now you have Prometheus creating the first man. With this new myth, the npc dominated the religious discourse, hence why secrecy is important.

>>40715743
I think the reformation was about pushing Europe into the long march toward Noahide. However Catholicism was as much a part of that process when it was used to suppress paganism. Protestantisms general blandness and lack of aesthetic, as well as Puritanism stronger emphasis on the Old testament helps promote the nations eventual conversion to Noahide. Other than that, I don't understand what you're saying. Their myths were pushed on the nations, using a culturally hijacked Roman empire to impose their myths

Jesus = Janus = Passion of Julius Caesar + Life of Ptolemy Caesar

Janus is the 2 faced deity of Rome

Julius is Divus, God, Ptolemy (Dionysus) is Divi Filius, the true Son of God, there is also a false son of god

You are programmed by post-Flavian propaganda, worship of abstract fake mind forms, chains. You adore the gallows, the cross.

It has been almost 2 millennia and the program still works. Break the +

>>40715569
>The #1 thing that should help you raise questions is the observation that Communion, the ritual where you consume the blood and body of the Christ, is mock cannibalism

It's a combination of Dionysian rites, which involved wine and bread, as well as OT prophecy. Christianity is Jewish Messianism at its core, but they used the existing cultural milieu in Rome to get the gentiles to bow to a Jewish Messiah figure. The cannibalism aspect, ironically relates to Old Testament tropes than with the idolatrous customs of the goyim. The temple sacrifices were blood sacrifices, which the priests would devour the flesh of after cooking them as a burnt offering There was also the cannibalism of the nephilim kings, the circumcision, the substituted sacrifice of Isaac, the slaying of Cain, the Messiah bloodying his garment by stomping on the bodies of his enemies

The idea that the son of man would be the the final sacrifice in old testament prophecy is not, unsurprisingly, going to lead to some cannibalistic territory. After all the believers are the new priesthood. And like the old priesthood, have to consume the flesh of the sacred lamb.

>>40715693
There was a King Izates of Adiabene who created the Nazarene military order and led a rebellion against Rome. His courage was so famous that his followers died to the last man in their failed war of 70 AD. They would go to war two more times in the next 60 years, and they would gather allies in the north and east of Europe to assault Rome.

Now, does it make any more sense why Rome wanted to control the narrative?

>>40715743
"Jews" didn't exist. There were Judeans (common people), and there was a priesthood in Jerusalem that claimed to worship the most important god in the world. You know, like every single other mountain retreat temple in the fucking world. Want to see it in action somewhere else? Go watch Vikings, Season 1, Episode 8. Uppsala was a sacred site to the Norse. They sacrificed animals and humans there every year. The priesthood was dressed in black and chthonic. People would come from all around to visit Uppsala, and they would come from all around to visit Jerusalem. This was also true of the Temple of Apollo at Delphi, of the temples in Egypt, and many other temples too.

>>40715900
>Now, does it make any more sense why Rome wanted to control the narrative?

It wouldn't surprise me that they shaped what became church doctrine, but I think they were still being mindfucked in some way to act as a vehicle to spread Messiah worship. I really don't trust people like Josephus. I think it was people like him who were stirring the pot and steering the ship from behind the scenes to Judaize the nations

I knew about the Bar Kabka revolt and Masadah, but I didn't know about the conscription of Barbarians by Jewish rebels. I',ll have to look into it. To me it just looks like the Jewish messianics got control of the dialectic on both sides.

>>40715921
This brings me to my next question: what is in Switzerland and why do the elite care about it so much?

>>40715992
the italian wars
pledging fealty to 3 jewish popes
the swiss guard
corporations = jewish anonymity
low tax rate for jews
neutrality in jewish wars against europe
whats not to love?

>>40710963
>Just believe other jew scientists
>This really old artifacts we totally didnt made up are 100% real this jew certifacate says so right here
Sure thing

>>40691036 (OP)
>Jesus Christ is much more recent than you think, Julius Caesar was older
Yes nigga. This is literally said in The Bible in Mark 12:13-17. Your point?

>>40716368
all you have to do is know your history and you can know whats authentic and whats too early because jews have a history of trying to backdate or provide artificial provenance to try to prove their religion is older than the second century bce
plus its the greek orthodox church authentication and jews both authenticating it.

what i want to know is why are there jews writing histories about christian churches? the answer might surprise you. a jew can do anything he wants, and he puts his mind to one specific late first century christian church. why? you dont find that interdasting? that isnt some day at the office psyop, thats committing years of your life. its not like anyones reading the book. so why? i know why, but do you?

Christianity was the I AM doctrine veiled for the piscean age, a judeo-masonic concoction, specifically Jupiter and the Sun in Pisces. Islam was Venus in Pisces. For the aquarian age the I AM doctrine will be veiled under the guise of AI and other technological creations.

Jesus = Je suis = Jeshua = Yah Weh = Jove = Jupiter = Zeus = Deus = I AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZftML6pAv7E

All Ra-legions are just false indoctrination to worship a fake entity(amen ra) believed to be male - the masons know this hence why they are called “ma sons” the only master mason is a women because they can carry two souls , the temple not made by hands. Thats why all of 4chan is so ideologically subverted to think women = slave. They already won. You all lost and it will take decades to erase and start over but dont worry the wipe will be here round 2046ish.
It was nothing more then a patriarchal takeover by the jews to worship the false light - thats why you idiots always say “hal EL lu JAH” on SUNdays..its why this place is called “bozrah” which literally translates to “the inversion of the true kingdom” its the material world etc
Its all about etymology you fools. It literally states in your dam bible 2nd Corinthians 4:4 FOR THE GOD OF THIS WORLD HAS BLINDED THE EYES OF BELIEVERS

>>40715992
Bram Stoker when writing Dracula alluded to an academy high in the mountains where Satan himself, or something like it, trained mortal sorcerers and servants.

>>40711866
>all you have to do is be spiritually independent again, as you were born, and you will remember.
What do you think about morality? Most religions emphasise the importance of loving your neighbor as your self, so there seems to be some sort of objective truths when it comes to morality

Oh, another question, do you think Jesus existed as a person?

>>40718165
they get those ideas from the bible, and for all my criticism of the bible thats one of the few helpful tidbits of information

when satan offers jesus all the kingdoms in the world during the 40 days in the desert, theyre traditionally depicted as being high on a mountain looking down on the lands below

>>40718209
that sort of thing is implicit in most animals, mutual cooperation is common sense. theres nothing moral about it, the fact it needs to be prescribed as if by god eliminates the 'common sense' conceptions in your own mind, it forces you to act your against your nature, and that is immoral.

have you heard the phrase "patience is a virtue"?
do you think that thats true?
if youre a wolf pack eating the flesh of a deer, what does patience bring you?
so the more accurate phrase would be: 'patience is *sometimes* a virtue'
if patience is a virtue, then it would be received as "patience is [always] a virtue"
and so by telling people 'patience is a virtue' or 'love thy neighbor' you receive the same effect and saying '[always] love thy neighbor'. the same argument here applies. so if youre telling to [always] love thy neighbor, there will inevitably come circumstances where even if youre all on the same page 'morally', that isnt going to work. so by prescribing this, it actively imposes itself against ones better judgment and how they would naturally process a hostile neighbor, which makes it immoral.

there are two sets of morals, one by god and one by man. and currently, we have the wrong set. what makes it even more infuriating is that we figured all of this shit out 2500 years ago

>>40718388
>there are two sets of morals, one by god and one by man
How can I learn more about God? Which philosopher, prophet or author came closer to achieving the Truth?

>>40718209
as to your second question, no. not a chance. i think jesus was an invention, probably by paul. the prophecies of daniel had deadlines and when those dates came to pass and nobody had arrived, jews started freaking out. i think it was necessary for them to invent jesus so as to keep their power structure and social engineering system from collapsing.
originally he was merely a spiritual messiah, as you can read in the early letters of paul. but not everybody was buying into this and i think that in order to placate other jews, with most people living in rural isolated communities, it was easier to invent a story of the messiah having been born, and died - "'aaaaaaaaand you just missed him' aweww shucks, but you can trust us, we saw him". but even better than that was ---> he was born, died, and then rose again, which circles you right back to the initial concept they tried to push that he was merely a spirit, and not a physical messiah. i think it was successful, and with the existing power structures, jews began making backroom deals with leaders to follow suit by pointing to their own success.
christianity was never some organic process, people didnt just come to know its theology and said 'wow this is so much better than what me and my ancestors have been doing' and then it just spread like wildfire like theyd have you believe. thats bullshit. it was the elites they targetted, the kings. and the kings from there shoehorned it. then once that was done, with a monopoly on religion, they could begin systematically brainwashing people and erase the living memory of the generation who knew the old gods/ways. you can see a similar process happening right now irl. jews usually target generations, and work in 40 year windows. the dark ages were about eradicating all the previous knowledge and redefining words like god. and then those people will fight for you. this was outlined and followed the original torah plan of world conquest and implementing noahidism.

>>40691036 (OP)
>Jesus is very much more modern invention (maybe didn't even exist?).
You have no idea what you're talking about.

At least one rapture has already occurred. This planet is, in fact, the place that some people from Earth (such as myself) were raptured to. We weren't "taken to Heaven." We were brought here instead. We're now on a real, physical, 3D planet that is definitely NOT Earth.

For one, the speed of time here is 50% faster than it is on Earth! Thus, a 10-second count—using the Earth counting pace—results in a whopping 15.00 seconds elapsing. And visually, when I look at a digital clock that has a seconds display, the seconds move at a supernaturally fast rate. It truly looks insane (to me). For the natives, though, the speed of time here has always been the same.

Bottom line: This planet is Bozrah, not Earth. Moreover, the event in which Jesus destroys this planet is called "the day of vengeance." There will be no 7-year Tribulation or Antichrist here—because this isn't Earth. Earth is roughly 75,000 light years from here (and is currently going through the Tribulation). This is just an impostor planet.

Make sure to read my pinned X thread (all four posts). And regarding my X bio, I'm exactly who I say I am. Bozrah natives must break free from the spell they've been under. This entire situation has gotten so ridiculous. At this point, I'm just waiting for the day of vengeance.

Pinned X thread:

https://x.com/elitefeat/status/1742924942151438589
or
https://bozrah.info

And I'm genuinely curious: How long will you keep pretending this is Earth? The time for pretending has long since passed.

>>40718501
>i think jesus was an invention, probably by paul.
See this post ... >>40718505

>>40691036 (OP)
Schizo: 10/10
Real World: 3/10

You have to actually tie your schizo rantings into something realistic for it to be effective. This is flat-earth tier.

>>40691036 (OP)
>Julius Caesar = JC
>Jesus Christ = JC
>therefore Jesus Christ = Julius Caesar

WELL
WELL
WELL

>>40691036 (OP)
You're a fucking idiot

>>40718418
Plato, and it isnt even a little bit close. but he was still off the mark, imperfect, but closer than anyone else. The best Holy books arent even Holy books, theyre accidental unconscious disclosures just in regular writing, usually fiction. but he was a man of 2500 years ago, you are a man 2500 years more evolved, you should be more capable than him in theory, at least in natural capabality. but theres been such a spiritual deprivity for so long and so wide scale that your spirit cant take full advantage, you are too acclimated and sensitive to your own environment. things were simpler then. you can learn from Plato how to approach the path, but very people can handle the mental trauma of actually undertaking it. the gnostics especially, drove themselves insane trying

do you know of the gnostic creation stories, with sophia, yaldabaoth, all his archons?
the gnostics were jews who tried to follow in pagans footsteps, the egyptians knew what they were doing, but got stuck somewhere, the greeks then followed the same formula, which you can see below. it is alot more prescriptive as to what its trying to conceptualize, which is the process of an imperfect creator's path towards perfection

you can see the different paths which are directed in the directions of what most would consider good and evil. each of these gods represents an emanation, and the perfection of that specific thing.

the gnostics broke themselves here, because they tried to incorporate this and tried to reconcile this path and structure of development with their own cultural beliefs, the social engineering system designed to elevate certain people into positions of power

if plato's republic was about making a state modeled after the perfect soul, then christianity was about making an imperfect soul, which lead to imperfect states, which could fall (to jews)
so christianity, and abrahamism especially is a sort of evil platonism. he could not foresee anyone so evil as to want to usurp god.

>>40718624
That's really interesting. Thank you Anon. I know you don't believe in Jesus but I was wondering, what do you think is the meaning of the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit? Why would that be the Unforgivable Sin according to the Christians?

>>40718624
>>40718671
Oh and my last question, sorry, but do you think God's nature is ultimately benevolent?

Ban = Acquiescence

Lightning strikes, Divus returns
The wheel spins to collect
There is no place left to hide

>>40718542
reminds me of some site i saw once that linked to reddit
especially that part about time being faster. most people cant grasp simple relativity, and think the earth revolves around them. they cant picture how life is experienced by a hummingbird, or an ant, only themselves.
i have to respectfully disagree.
how long until you accept that if the opening chapter of the bible is wrong about things like the shape of the earth, it isnt because reality itself is wrong, but because the writers were?

>>40718702
i cant answer that, i havent been able to yet, but i intend to. for me it wasnt as relevant as determining in which direction god presently is for our cycle in what we might consider the benevolent (good)-evil spectrum, so i may best attune myself. and then following that, in order to determine the trajectory he is moving so i can syncronize myself to the divine will.

the finality of things like good and evil, or benevolence are relative to god and is a matter of perspective. so far, my best estimation is it must be an eventual neutrality and balance, neither strictly benevolent nor evil. a sort of free energy, but for life.

>>40718731
>especially that part about time being faster.
It's not just the time. The human anatomy on this planet is vastly different.

https://x.com/elitefeat/status/1753763506736738636
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Here are two paragraphs from the rebuttal:

In regard to people saying that my claim about the time difference is based on the Bible: By mid-August of 2019, I had already made the claim that this planet is a replica version of the real Earth (my claim was based on things such as the changes in human anatomy and the two additional occupants in the JFK car). It wasn't until the following month (September 2019) that I found out about FDR being on the dime instead of Eisenhower. And then in mid-September, I found out about the time difference. And then 10 months after that (on July 19th, 2020), I discovered Revelation 8:12. So, no, my claim about the time difference is not "based on the Bible."

In conclusion, I made the claim (with 100% certainty) about days being 16 hours long without even knowing about the existence of Revelation 8:12. In other words, what I experienced and documented in 2019 proves that the Bible is, indeed, true. Ultimately, one's worldview should be based on that which actually exists and that which is actually true. I would hazard a guess that your current worldview is based, however, on long-standing falsehoods that seem very, very, very reasonable. Keep in mind, a long-standing falsehood that seems very, very, very reasonable is still a falsehood nonetheless. Frankly, I think it's high time you re-examined your own beliefs. So, let me ask you this: All these years, where exactly have you been getting your knowledge from?
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>>40718876
https://x.com/elitefeat/status/1884371114261901783
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3 of 4

The bottom line is that my claim was already established and cemented prior to July 2020. In other words, I'm saying that you should take the Bible seriously BECAUSE of my claim, not the other way around.
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>>40718671
trying to understand the psyche of a jew is beyond my expertise, i am closer to god than i am to jews. but i know that that isnt how things work.
fuck the jewish holy spirit
so any answer i give you would only be speculation. but just entertaining a single thought or speaking some words isnt some be all end all that is going to condemn your fate. god doesnt have the temperament of an unhinged menopausal jewess drinking wine out of a bag rageposting on twitter circa 2017. it speaks more to oneself in the entertainment of the possibility that divine things are as petty as a man might be.

>>40716444
>jews have a history of trying to backdate or provide artificial provenance to try to prove their religion is older than the second century bce
This

So roughly 2 weeks ago?

>>40691036 (OP)
I like you Op. This resonated with me. Its even in the admission sin format. The tell you the secret its your fault for not listening confession style.

>tion of printing and distribution of books (namely bible). Does this ring any bells to you? Because it's direct paralel to the invention of television. I'm suggesting that both TV and advent of printing share same goal, indoctrination and propaganda of the masses (extra points of sus for bible being the first book that went into widespread

>>40691036 (OP)
Too late it is already end times.

>>40700965
>God in the Flesh
God in the Flesh was a big deal, it was called the finding of Moses body. It was then taken by the arc angels.

>>40692040
Trust the science

>>40721700
>Too late
wdym?

Julius Caesar
Jesus Christ
JC Denton

Holy shit.

>>40716292
Weird how you immediately reflected it back onto the jews instead of putting any real thought into it.

Orion is the enemy
but Sirius is not the solution
don't let anyone tell you otherwise

>>40723851
>ermagerd its da raiders of da lost ark warehouse
we know what youre trying to say, we just arent retards who live in imaginationland is all

>>40695074
It can accurately date materials up to about 60,000 years old.

>>40698684
>>40698700
>There are two great systems in the body of man: the tree of life, which is the arterial with its roots in the heart; and, the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, i.e. the nervous system, which has its roots in the brain. These two "trees" are physical manifestations of a complicated network of branching energy currents in the aura or superphysical bodies.
—Manly P. Hall

>>40705507
>the identification of the Jewish God with the "Egyptian" Typhon
called Seth or Set
funny I just found this thread digging around in the archives
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/472971253/

>>40710980
>>40710937
what was it? I'll watch it
post the link again

>>40712588
>Freemasons and Jesuits seem to have such easy time blending within/among Christians, without getting noticed by Christians. Maybe it's because it's not so different from Christianity?
Freemasons and Jesuits invented Christianity (as we know it today)

>>40718093
>its why this place is called “bozrah” which literally translates to “the inversion of the true kingdom” its the material world etc
holy fuck are you the r/Retconned guy who spams his twitter posts on here??? why don't you ever explain where you learned this stuff? who told you the planet was named after a city destroyed in the Old Testament? why do you believe it? I'm 100% of the opinion that this belief is a demonic spell designed to harm people who take it seriously with the ultimate aim of destroying or damaging the entire 3rd dimension if it ever gains widespread currency.

>>40724318
its not an evil demonic spell dumbass its just a retarded theory spammed by a retarded schizo. although the sagittarius stuff the theory is copied from is interesting

>>40724187
i dont play that jew worshipper shit
yes it sort of looks like tree roots, but that tree of knowledge shit is biblical in nature and is therefore retarded. it looks way more like a parasite using the skin as soil. but if jews knew what they were talking about, they couldve just said that. but instead, theyll try to hoop jump and try to say man being made of dirt isnt dirt but space dust, and then shift back to it being dirt, and how they were reeeeally talking about the tree of the nervous system using the soil of the flesh as a tree uses its roots in soil

the difference between jews and pagans is that pagans use metaphors to help people to facilitate conceptual understanding, whereas jews use metaphors to obstruct it. pagans atleast try to make it make sense, jews just spin you circles.

steiner, hall, blavatsky, pike, these people are all well poisoned by the jewish taint. jews never had some greater understanding, atleast not in any theological regard. but they do know how to create and market a psyop though.

>>40724239
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZftML6pAv7E

>>40718505
Fucking called it months ago, and just now right here >>40724318 that this shit is a demonic psyop designed to use (Your) power of manifestation to cause havoc and destruction on this planet. It's a way for the demonic fear-based fundamentalist faux-Christianity to control the Mandela Effect (which breaks their inerrancy cult due to the way it changed the Bible) and capture the multi-planet hypothesis (which precedes EliteFeat's psyop, we referred to it as Sagittarius Earth/Orion Spur Earth due to the location in the galaxy people had residue on vs. current facts—it was a secular theory, non-religious, in fact there were Mandela Effected people who remembered the destruction of the previous planet, apparently due to nuclear war).

But now I've got proof... EliteFeat refers to his "religion" (the insane belief that the planet is named after a tiny ancient city cursed by the Jewish god) as 812ism in a comment on that Twitter post... I was like, where have I seen those digits before? Oh that's right, Current 218, a fucking Satanic cult! A Satanic cult that pretends they're "gnostic" i.e. they're anticosmic—they seek the total destruction of this reality... just like EliteFeat's "bozrah" psyop.

>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temple_of_the_Black_Light

There's an anon that spams their extremely dangerous and harmful grimoires on here (same dude?), and the 218 guys are connected to the O9A which also has had a presence here. It's all connected, isn't it? Truly an EliteFeat.

>>40691036 (OP)
are you a third worlder?

>>40724461
you sound just as retarded as the bozrah fag
are these all you?

>>40724461
Of course exoterically he'll tell you it's based on Revelation 8:12, but even the text of that verse (which doesn't correspond to the Mandela Effect changes he says it does) is a clue to the numerical inversion required to understand where he's secretly coming from: unlike the much more popular Revelation 13:18, which has three sixes, Revelation 8:12 has six threes...

>>40718093
so by your logic, kardashian = son of mason = kardash [mason] + ian [son of]

so the armenian spelling of 'RA' should be Ka, or Kar, idk, i dont speak armenian, but one of those.

so, is it? is 'Ra' in armenian pronounced 'Ka'?
if its simply etymology, that should be the case. and if its not, youre probably gonna go down the free-'ma'sons arent the same as stone-'ma'sons, and the 'ra' reference comes into the equation only with free-masonry/english path, which might be fine. but freemasons make no secret of being spiritual descendants of the priests of Heliopolis who were sun worshippers btw.

what youre implying is completely anti-thetical to masonic ideology and their own vows: "I will always hail, forever conceal, and never reveal." for it is by that line that they show what they mean by 'hail', is actually 'hele', and more importantly - that they go out of their way to ensure its not etymology, its like, their entire creed lol.

>>40724133
No, the whole reason you think Jews run everything is ROME. Rome used Christianity to calm down the Jewish messianic movement. That means Rome is against the Jewish messianic movement, subverted the real history, and treats anyone with real knowledge as outsiders and enemies of the state. Rome still controls Europe, whether the center is at the Vatican, London, or Washington DC. You know, the three sovereign city states within larger states. Jews are playthings. Actually, Judaism is a relatively modern cult created so that they would have dissidents in every country all over the world to control you. Modern Judaism is just Frankism (300 years old), and any other orthodoxy is merely cover for this. There is nothing more to the "Jewish conspiracy" than this. "Rome" is composed of oligarchical families going back to the Roman Empire, and the main opposition to them which they have long since merged with are the families from the Persian/Parthian Empire.

Actually, since the whole point of this thread was originally Jesus, let's go back to Izates real quick. He was the king of Adiabene with a claim to be the Roman Emperor AND the Parthian Shah, and Adiabene was nestled right in between these empires. Naturally, both sides found this unification distasteful and did away with him.

>>40724628
>rome is against the jewish messianic movement
and thats why they systematically hand jews power everywhere theyve ever stepped foot

>>40724675
They don't. That's a recent phenomenon, and it's part of their strategy for controlling colonies. You can't trust white Americans to not be patriotic, so they need people with an ideology that is naturally anti-patriotic so that they will always have men on the inside. B'nai B'rith was created in the US by British people. The Jews are an intelligence operation.

>>40718731
>that pic
Actually, Daniel was saved in susa, which is just outside the circle!

>>40718093
>>40724587
ps Amun is a real god who emenates all the various others. hes your jewish holy spirit. monotheism, really, is just a way for brown people who cannot conceive of all the various avenues of emenations of the 'demiurge' (imperfect creator) who are trying to be lazy about understanding what 'god' is. the egyptians called this god Amun, jews yahweh, greeks zeus, rome jove, etc. somewhere along the way, and i dont want to name any names here, *cough* jews *cough*, someone lost the capacity to grasp that all the other gods were embodiments of these various emenations. pantheism and monotheism were all trying to conceive of the same thing. but then some schizos broke their brains reading Plato, and had to just say "we cant cope" and probably, in conjunction with the burden of having to go to 3 different gods to pray for your sick kid or whatever, it simply became easier to become negligent and ignorant of all other cultures, all who were worshipping the same god as each other, until these people came along and made it all about cutting baby weiners and making backroom deals with pedophiles to manipulate npcs and mass breeding brown people because the people who knew their psyop was a psyop long died, ironically in same vein as hiram abiff at some point, and couldnt pass on that knowledge. so instead of the world commonly worshipping the same god/gods through various names, these people went on an unhinged crusade to exterminate all that is holy, and replaced it with their slave chattle system. and now, in their spiritual banishment, and complete incapacity to receive spiritual guidance, they live happy material lives, bringing ruin and hardship to everyone, oblivious to their own impending demise. the prime directive of this cycle of creation has thus been abandoned and failed, and has shifted to a secondary directive: to identify and weed out all those who can be corrupted to act against their own creator(s) by a few simple environmental adjustments

>>40724743
daniel wasnt saved anywhere, he was a fraudster and a liar who backdated his own work and recited history and pretended to predict future events, events which had already happened.

>>40724811
Bump. Amun is also the origin of the peacock-demiurge.

>>40724709
the only recent phenomenon is them not having to hide it anymore, because christianity did its job and did what it was designed to do. now they will push noahidism, just as has always been the plan. its a plan to conquer the world, forever. thats all it is. all it ever was.

>>40724840
what i like about amun is he 'always wins'

>>40718093
so it is not 'Ra' that the Freemasons worship, it is Amun. thus is the vow: "I will always hail, forever conceal, and never reveal."
that is why the books put at the head of their lodges can be different for different parts of the world, because its all the same god.

>>40724840
thats a goose btw

>>40724872
"The Jews" is the scapegoat of Christianity. It's been built-in since Rome reformatted Jewish messianism and used it to control the populace. "Don't hate Rome! Hate the Jews which your totally real and not fake at all religion tells you to do!"

>>40724911
>"You are Amun, the Lord of the silent,
>Who comes at the voice of the poor;
>When I call to you in my distress,
>You come and rescue me,
>To give breath to him who is wretched,
>To rescue me from bondage.
>You are Amen-Re, Lord of Thebes,
>Who rescues him who is in the netherworld;
>For you are he who is [merciful],
>When one appeals to you.
>You are he who comes from afar."
>Votive Stela of Nebre with Hymn to Amen-Re

>>40724911
>>40718093
so amun appears as a ram to herakles who wanted to see the face of god
abraham does the inverse and slaughters a ram instead of his son
the ram is the symbol of ares, and the previous 'age'
moses then demands the same thing as herakles, and amun ('yahweh') appears before him and moons him
abrahamism was a meme religion, moses never existed. imo it was written by people to spite what the world knew as 'god' and their myths, and thats why everything is a degenerate form of others myths.
why is perseus slaying the whale? he should jewish, and should be using the whale as a taxi to go and cry and seethe about people not worshipping his specific interpretation of god/amun the mocking character 'yahweh'
why is orpheus travelling to hades to save his wife eurydace? he should be impregnating his own daughters instead
why is pandora the first human, it should be a man, and the woman should be a dumb bitch who screws everyone over, the chicken and the egg problem is stupid
etc, etc.

abrahamism in this sense, is for people who hate their creator. so people are not wrong to see jews as 'satanic'. its a spiritually binding, youll be condemned to never be capable of distinguishing between concepts like 'god' irl and 'jesus' in the book. the smashing of the first stone tablets symbolizes their destruction of the natural way, and rewriting them for their own benefit. they dont need god, they are the 'gods' now
https://youtu.be/ZftML6pAv7E?t=1h35m29s

>>40724950
theyre both fake.
one hand washes the other.

>>40724923
It's a reptilian.

https://youtu.be/h0EUoEEj1tU

>>40700566
big if true

bump

>>40724149
I doubt it, they keep re-testing until they find a result that agrees with their confirmation bias, and publish only the results that align with the agenda. All sciences/academia is controlled by (((them))), so everything published has to align with narrative(s) set by (((them)))

>>40725056
Funny that only Christians follow bible, while most jews are secular and don't follow or care about torah.